Really nice analysis and improvements, one question: do you know how many pounds is the factory mag release spring and the specifications for the Wolf one you replaced ?
@oakleydefense55139 күн бұрын
I'm not sure, since I didn't think of measuring it, and I'm not sure how I could do it accurately. I think I ordered a packet from Wolff with several springs and chose the medium one. It definitely made the magazine easier to drop, which I prefer for IDPA matches.
@turkeyhunter761716 күн бұрын
Cool video 👍
@oakleydefense551315 күн бұрын
Thank you. I hope it's helpful for others.
@tobberfutooagain262818 күн бұрын
Its a turd. Get what you pay for…
@Renrondog12 күн бұрын
No it's a production 2011 style pistol. Mine runs great and yes, i did replace MIM parts. Not because the factory parts didn't work but because I wanted higher quality components. The gun shoots like a STI old school 40 cal I used to own. I'm Very happy with my Prodigy 4.25" model. Is a Staccato P better? yes, but $700 buys a lot of ammo .
@randystone490321 күн бұрын
Thank you! This is one heavily built gun and first military type I've ever had. Always use quality ammunition, it's like putting high test in a sports car.
@salmonthomas21 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comment. I hope the video was helpful. Springfield Armory makes good guns!
@splinterrad196329 күн бұрын
can i send my prodigy to your gunsmith for upgrades?
@salmonthomas29 күн бұрын
I'll ask him and let you know.
@oakleydefense551328 күн бұрын
Send me your email, and I'll give you his contact info. My email is: [email protected]
@oakleydefense551326 күн бұрын
In case you need it, here's the website for the 2A Shooting Center in Tulsa. The gunsmith there, Garth, worked on my Prodigy, so call them and ask for him. 2ashootingcenter.com
@mikec7661Ай бұрын
thats brilliant. thank you
@beauglenn3596Ай бұрын
Thank you so fucking much. I lost count of the videos I had watch and none else worked
@salmonthomasАй бұрын
I'm glad to hear it helped!
@Patriotx-gx4ceАй бұрын
Croatian quality manufacturing is unmatched. People that complain about it need to visit Croatia and HS factory. We are born and raised to be hard workers with attention to making best product whatever it may be.
@oakleydefense5513Ай бұрын
I agree. I have owned a number of Springfield Armory products, and they are all good.
@paulschab81527 күн бұрын
I love my XD9. Having said that, HS and Croatia have nothing to do with the Prodigy.
@delb154 күн бұрын
@@paulschab8152facts lol folks always want to give hs all of Springfields props they make good guns and also too what Springfield and world great shooters gave as I put and made the echelon but had nth to do with this gun
@johnsimons5396Ай бұрын
Lfa apollo 11 compact with a holosun eps fullsize dot and a olight pl valkyrie 800 lumin light
@aluginbill6182Ай бұрын
What holster you running?
@oakleydefense5513Ай бұрын
I mainly use the Mitch Rosen 5JR Express for a 5" Prodigy, which has been great! It's an OWB leather holster with a forward cant that holds the Prodigy very close to my body, making it comfortable and easily concealable. Recently I've been trying a Crossbreed Rogue OWB/IWB Kydex holster, which works fine, except over time Kydex can wear off a cerakote finish in places. Both holsters are available through the Springfield Armory online store.
@sizzlechest6070Ай бұрын
I’ll wait till Springfield makes a prodigy that works.
@tchakaboris7784Ай бұрын
Is this video sincere? buy a weapon then pay for an upgrade to get to other quality brands... you might as well buy the best... it makes strange sense!.
@oakleydefense5513Ай бұрын
That would be correct if both pistols cost the same, but with the upgrade my Prodigy ended up about $600 less than the Staccato. I addition, the waiting list for a Staccato was 6 months, while the Prodigy was immediately available, my gunsmith (whom I know and trust) provided specific upgrade recommendations (which I followed), and I prefer the 5" barrel of the Prodigy over the 4.4" for the Staccato. Considering all that, the Prodigy + upgrade was the best option for me, and I've been very happy with my decision.
@HogLaw-k6k2 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this video - Thanks for sharing - very informative!
@oakleydefense55132 ай бұрын
Thank you for the positive feedback. I hope that sharing my experiences will be benefit others with similar interests.
@toddratisseau2 ай бұрын
great demo
@EpicKillz3 ай бұрын
what if i jammed the slide mid to rear and cant get it forward
@salmonthomas3 ай бұрын
I’m not sure what you’re referring to without seeing it. Usually the only thing that interferes with for-aft movement of the slide is the sear. If Method 1 in my video doesn’t work, Method 2 might be better.
@EpicKillz2 ай бұрын
@@salmonthomas i got it i had to use 50/50 cord and I pulled on the guiderode and spring and it all fell apart, thanks for the help!
@salmonthomas2 ай бұрын
@@EpicKillz I'm not sure how that worked, but I'm glad it did. I hope my video was helpful. The key is getting the sear down, either by Method 1 or Method 2 in the video.
@vincentsilva56633 ай бұрын
This happened to my Beretta 92 the bushing fell out sadly now im assuming all i would need to do is rethread the frame and locktite it up
@salmonthomas3 ай бұрын
You could check the Challis and other websites, but you can probably rethreads it and insert the appropriate over-sized bushing.
@4thlawofgravity4 ай бұрын
Thankyou sir
@salmonthomas4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching it!
@user-si6nd2gk7o4 ай бұрын
great information. thank you.
@oakleydefense55134 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. Glad to be of help,
@Majorrogerragland484 ай бұрын
I've used the double HF tumbler for about 10 years, I think I paid about $39 for it. I tip I would add, instead of dish or hand soap, use Zip Wax or Turtle Wax auto washing liquid soap. The benefit is it coats your brass with a wax, and they say bright.
@FrankJilling4 ай бұрын
Plan on using this video for my install, thank you. Very straightforward and informational.
@salmonthomas4 ай бұрын
Glad to be of help.
@trailerparksupervisor53785 ай бұрын
What if, for some insane reason, I screwed the little set screw all the way into the grip and now I can't get it out? Theoretically, of course.
@salmonthomas5 ай бұрын
I'm not especially mechanically inclined, but (were this ever to happen), I'd first rule out simple solutions, like if you were using the wrong Allen wrench. I think it takes a 1/16". If it fits, then verify that you're turning it counter-clockwise to remove. It's hard to imagine screwing it in so hard that you stripped the hex insides of the screw, but I suppose it's possible. It would also depend on if the screw is stuck after fully installing the grip. If so, I'd just leave it as is and forget about it. If you haven't yet attached it to the AR lower, you need to get the screw out one way or the other. You could super-glue an Allen wrench to the screw, without getting any glue on the sides of the plastic hole, let it harden, and then try to unscrew it. Or, using a drill press and a drill press vise, you could drill it out. That could damage the plastic threads in the hole, but that might not matter. You can use a roll pin of the appropriate size to re-attach it. Or, even if you couldn't re-attach it, simply attaching the grip to the AR lower would put the front of the trigger guard in about the right place without a screw. No one (except you) would even notice. Not perfect, but it would work.
@Three60Crusader5 ай бұрын
Any idea why I can’t get the screw to thread in evenly? Damaged threads?
@salmonthomas5 ай бұрын
I think I recall it can be a little tricky getting the threads lined up and starting correctly, but by patiently working with it you should get them to go in straight. If that doesn't work, it might be due to mismatched or damaged threads.
@MsPatriotfront6 ай бұрын
LoL, they sell these things separately? We've been throwing them in the trash a dozen at a time.
@oakleydefense55136 ай бұрын
Are you referring to the Daniel Defense product described here or standard mil-spec pistol grips? Standard grips are a dime a dozen, and I don't care for them for the reasons mentioned. The Daniel Defense grips solve the problem, so I recommend them over standard mil-spec grips.
@chainbenwa27136 ай бұрын
Someone told me small pistol magnum primers are the same primer charge as small rifle primers.. dunno if that’s true but a test would be cool.. lol
@oakleydefense55136 ай бұрын
I've heard that rifle primer cups have slightly thicker walls. If so, they might or might not work with a particular pistol depending on how strong the striker/firing pin spring is. As for the charge, I wouldn't be surprised if they're all about the same. All primers have to do is ignite the powder. The powder then creates the huge chamber pressure, up around 30,000 PSI for 9mm. Any pressure contributed by the primer would be tiny in comparison.
@BlackBearOutdoors6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this info. It is very helpful. Did you see any difference in accuracy/grouping?
@salmonthomas6 ай бұрын
I didn't check accuracy or group size, since I was just shooting through a chronograph into a berm. I predict that there would be no difference, since pistol shooting is not a high-precision sport. Variability caused by the shooter himself is usually much greater than variability in the ammo. As someone pointed out in one of the other comments though, magnum primers have thicker cups, so with a pistol that has a weak firing pin strike, you might get a failure to fire.
@benkonter24656 ай бұрын
Yes they can be used if it's all you can find but beware that the magnum primer is either thicker or harder and therefore requires a harder hammer/striker hit. You may find that some firearms will not set off the magnum primer and cause malfunctions. Only way to know if your firearm will work with them is to range test plenty of rounds, check the spent casings and see if the primers show signs of light strikes. The power factor of the primer itself is zero.
@salmonthomas6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the info.
@cynthiaweeks43447 ай бұрын
Bless you for posting this! What a timesaver!
@salmonthomas7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad it was helpful. This method also doesn't make much mess.
@bobharris48807 ай бұрын
I am testing magnum primer small pistol to see the results as with standards I got cycling issues of missing cartridge load on chamber resulting in block, the gunsmith suggest me to use CCI magnum primers ones instead of normal 500 use 550 magnum and observe if happens again: on glock 17 9mm x21 I hope solve it
@salmonthomas7 ай бұрын
It sounds like you're having failures to feed. That doesn't sound like a primer issue to me. I would think it might be more like a problem with the cartridge dimensions, such as incorrect bullet or case diameters, or maybe that overall cartridge length doesn't work well with your gun. Also, it might be an issue with a weak recoil spring that doesn't have enough power to push the cartridge in. Is the feed ramp smooth and clean?
@bobharris48807 ай бұрын
@@salmonthomas it has been tested with the original GLOCK spring , cartridges dimensions are measured by digital caliber and are seating at its OAL 29,5 mm , high cartridge loads 5,4 grain Vjhyavouri N340 , the pistol has the trigger prepared by a real expert on its original base for optimize it’s performance. Another suggestion says to crimp more the bullet
@bobharris48807 ай бұрын
@@salmonthomas as weak recoil it can be this is the reason why he suggest to crimp and test both with CcI 500 and 550 magnums
@salmonthomas7 ай бұрын
Is your problem a failure to feed the cartridge into the chamber when the slide goes forward; that is, before you fire? Or is it a failure to extract or eject after you fire? If it's a failure to feed, does it happen when you load the first round from the magazine, before firing the first shot? Depending on when the malfunction occurs, you might be able to narrow down the cause. Your overall length sounds long, at least for 115 grain FMJ bullets. These commercial cartridges are usually about 1.155" (29.34mm). I load mine between 1.120" (28.45mm) to 1.135" (28.83mm). I don't have any references to know the correct charge for that powder (for 115 or 124g bullets), but 5.4 grains sounds like a lot. So you should have plenty of chamber pressure, and I don't think changing primers would have any effect. Generally people taper crimp 9mm. I use a light crimp. Are you setting your powder charge and overall all length based on a reference book? You should follow their specifications for both powder change AND overall length. Both affect chamber pressure, so you have to get both right. Overall length also affects feeding. If you follow the reference data, it should normally function fine.
@bobharris48807 ай бұрын
I use 123 gr fmj following the loading data but 0,2 grains more to reach 350ms the no feeding issue happened at the second 8 shot group exercise so at magazine full at half, it is very strange issue.on single shot doesn’t happened, this happens On a very rapid fire sequence .is a cycling problems
@kariatid7 ай бұрын
I was searching for a method to clean brass jewelry findings! Great tips!
@salmonthomas7 ай бұрын
I hope it makes your jewelry look beautiful!
@chrome72Ай бұрын
Would this leave micro scratches in the brass? Looking for something that even when viewed under light magnification is almost scratch free
@danqodusk81407 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation and excellent demonstration! A first class presentation!
@salmonthomas7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I try to make videos about things I learn that may be a practical benefit to others.
@garymiller45517 ай бұрын
I frankly don't know what happened but mine stuck on reassembly and I was thinking I'd screwed up my gun. So thankful for this video!
@salmonthomas7 ай бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful.
@c_byrd98608 ай бұрын
God bless this man
@salmonthomas8 ай бұрын
Sounds like you may have done what I did! Glad it was helpful.
@wemcal9 ай бұрын
Great video and great looking brass
@salmonthomas9 ай бұрын
Thank you. Last year I bought the wet brass tumbler, sifter and dryer made by Hornaday, which does the same as what I show in this video, but processes three times as much brass in the same time. I hope to make a video showing the new equipment. But the process I show in the this video still works great.
@ronnieboardman16739 ай бұрын
Nice I have a springfield Garrison I was wanting to put standard bushings on it has the thin after seeing this it may give me the confidence to try it with that tool. I really don't mind the thin grips but I can't find a thin grip I like enough. I really don't want to mess with the bushings but honestly I really don't like the grips much that come on the gun.
@salmonthomas9 ай бұрын
Glad to be of help. Thank you for the comment.
@specialk507010 ай бұрын
its to close to trigger , magpul and troy aren’t 🇺🇸👍
@salmonthomas10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the info. I have no experience with those. I personally haven't noticed any interference with the trigger.
@garyhardison926510 ай бұрын
Nice video thank you for sharing
@oakleydefense551310 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Glad it was helpful.
@tanguito000710 ай бұрын
Mate, I refill .308w, with magnum primers, for winter hunting -10Cº, because they have better lighting, I just lower the grains a little, like you have done. They work perfectly. Greetings from Argentina
@oakleydefense551310 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insight. Wow, that sounds cold! I probably wouldn't last 30 minutes below freezing! By the way, I've been using Servicious Aventuras primers from Argentina. They work fine for my 1911, but some shooters with striker-fired pistols have occasional misfires, perhaps due to thicker primer walls.
@tanguito000710 ай бұрын
@@oakleydefense5513 ,Your assessment is correct, those primers are thick-walled, they do not work well in pistols with a lightened hammer, IPSC shooters use "imaz" PRIMERS
@footnotedrummer10 ай бұрын
Great data! Thanks for this. I've been a bit apprehensive to load my Magnum primers for use in my striker fire pistol. Since you used a striker fire for your demo... it game me a lot more confidence. You should do another video using small rifle primers for 9mm. I have these as well, and the only issue I may run into, is the fact that rifle primers have a slightly thicker primer casing. With this said... I may have to strictly use these in my hammer fired 9mm. TBD... Thanks again!
@salmonthomas10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching my video and for the comments. It’s good you understand the difference in wall thickness for rifle versus pistol primers. Which brings up a good point you’re probably aware of. Some primer substitutions might be acceptable but using any pistol primer in a rifle cartridge is potentially dangerous because of the thinner walls in pistol primers. That, combined with a more powerful firing pin and higher chamber pressures might lead to a punctured primer and high pressure gas going back toward the shooter.
@tires2burn10 ай бұрын
Maybe if you wouldn't have reduced the magnum load 2 tenth's the average would have been the same as the standard. Good video, Thanks.
@oakleydefense551310 ай бұрын
I think so also.
@lamiabanca11 ай бұрын
In 2017 in Europe I buy 20.000 pcs for 17€ x 1000. Now zero Murom.
@salmonthomas11 ай бұрын
Interesting! In the US at that time, the price was probably similar, about $25/1000. Do you know in which countries it's possible for citizens to reload? My impression is that most European countries have restrictions on gun ownership. As I mentioned in the video, now a year and several thousand primers later, the Murom primers worked fine.
@LARPhArDeR11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@salmonthomas11 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Hope it helped!
@LARPhArDeR11 ай бұрын
@salmonthomas yesir!! I was uhh definitely freaking out. Just a tad lol.
@salmonthomas11 ай бұрын
I understand. As they say, "Been there, done that!"
@yakupdemir501611 ай бұрын
Abi sen adamsın bravo
@salmonthomas11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@bruinflight11 ай бұрын
Excellent work, thanks for this explanation. F YT for censorship.
@freelanddoug11 ай бұрын
I've recently had a problem with light primer strikes using magnum primers. 9mm, 115gr FMJ, 4.4grs Win244, CCI550. 3 out of 10 failed on first attemp, all fired on second strike. Sig M17 pistol used. All firing pin indentations were noticably shallower than what Im used to seeing.
@salmonthomas11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. What brand were they?
@freelanddoug11 ай бұрын
@@salmonthomas CCI SP Magnum.
@salmonthomas11 ай бұрын
Yes, that's a potential problem with magnum primers, due to thick walls. It can also occur with standard primers from some manufacturers. For example, Servicios Aventuras small pistol primers (Argentina) can likewise fail in a gun with light springs, but with a strong firing pin, they fire consistently. If 100% reliability is required, we must first validate them with the specific pistol.
@bluehorn111 ай бұрын
What size punch gets the screw out?
@salmonthomas11 ай бұрын
I think you're referring to the roll pin (rather than screw) that holds the back of the trigger guard in. I pushed it out at about 2:50 in the video using a 3/32" roll pin punch. I think that's what it was.
@bluehorn111 ай бұрын
@@salmonthomas thank you
@moushunter Жыл бұрын
When I load 223 rem I use whichever small rifle primer I have available. I honestly do not notice a bit of difference using standard, magnum, or the military 5.56 primers. Maybe if I was loading to 5.56 spec there would be but in a general range load, about 2700fps, there is no difference in point of aim, rifle function, or brass ejection. With .357magnum I notice perhaps a scrap or two of unburned powder with small pistol vs magnum. Point of aim at 25 yds is the same though.
@oakleydefense5513 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info.
@assistedlemon Жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone else had this idea, my wife already has one for tumbling rocks. Good to know I can use it too!
@KMbuilt Жыл бұрын
Great and simple installation video. Thank you, sir! Very helpful. 👍
@salmonthomas Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. Glad to be of help.
@toneeclark399 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this excellent presentation. Just purchased Murom LP lead free. Fingers still crossed, but relaxing.
@oakleydefense5513 Жыл бұрын
By now I've loaded 7,557 of these and they've worked as well as my favorite American primers. I think you can be confident they'll work fine.