Some people will think it’s great some won’t,that’s the way it is
@AudioRamblings2 күн бұрын
I think its all to do with synergy with your system and your own taste?
@hificonspiracy4 күн бұрын
Nice set up! Great video!
@hificonspiracy4 күн бұрын
I'm sorry, what kind of noise are your isolating/shielding from in a digital signal ?
@SvenfromKiel5 күн бұрын
I use toslink from my Imac playing .flac via Foobar. Sound is nice without any distortions or dropouts. A big influence seems to have the USB to 5V power supply. From SMSL I go directly into a active Dali Zensor via 3.5 mm stereo jack plug. Parallel I listen to an old Onkyo DV 503 CD-Player which uses directly toslink. This sounds not so good...more flat and less dynamically.
@StreetraveDave896 күн бұрын
Great set up. I've had my 590 for a couple of years now. I use a PL 518x and it sounds fantastic. But because of the 20 WPC I feel limited to what speakers I can use. I'm currently set up using a Chinese pair of Castle Knight 4s and they're surprisingly very well suited, but I'd like to invest in better floor standers if you can recommend any? Thanks
@24bellers207 күн бұрын
This takes me back.😊I remember listening to 1 and loving it but buying a Karik/ Numerik simply because the rest of my system was Linn. 🤷🏻♂️
@davidfranklin45349 күн бұрын
Thanks for your opinion in concurred with mine. BTW a 2mm spacer will put it at the ideal height on Rega turntables.
@54tristin10 күн бұрын
IMO THE BOTTOM PF THE LINE NAGAOKA M110, sounds better than anything be low the blue most grades and all but the MC AUDIO TECHNIC
@scottlowell49310 күн бұрын
If you were around then, as I was...Meridian got tons of hype as digital leaders into the 2000's.
@robertaksland147110 күн бұрын
Firstly, the SU-1 needs a 5V audiophile power supply, like the Ifi Xpower. Secondly the optical cable has the advantage of electrically shielding it from the other equipment. These two factors is all that is needed to make the SU-1 really shine.
@raynerstuelgalid14 сағат бұрын
Any link on how to modify SU-1 so it can have 5V power supply?
@robertaksland147114 сағат бұрын
@@raynerstuelgalid You need an adapter to usbc. When you buy a Ifi power X it is included in the package.
@raynerstuelgalid13 сағат бұрын
@@robertaksland1471 Thanks. I got a 5V Linear PSU. Just need an adapter then.
@raynerstuelgalid13 сағат бұрын
That means the USB will be unable for music source...
@robertaksland147113 сағат бұрын
@@raynerstuelgalid That is right. I use it with a 3,5mm optical adapter to toslink from my laptop. My desktop computer have a toslink port.
@jp9330910 күн бұрын
I’m doing a/b listening tests with an SMSL SU-1 and the new SMSL PS200. The PS200 has a new ESS9039Q2M dac chip. The SU-1 has an AKM4493S chip. So far I’m favoring the PS200. Just as punchy as the SU-1 but a little clearer up top w/o sibilance.
@Iainmaclennan7013 күн бұрын
I am currently using the Cambridge Audio CXC CD transport into the SU-1 dac. Very happy with the sound. That Meridian looks amazing!!
@yellow_noise317 күн бұрын
Meh. Obviously you have better sound using DDC between laptop and DAC. It is not Toslink that good, rather DDC clean up all the noise from laptop and (maybe) reclock. If your CD player had usb output you could hear even better sound passing it thru your DoukAudio DDC, regardless of used DAC input....
@thedude342317 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Just more proof of the overall improvements in toslink connections. Typically, coax would win hands down in the past. Early optical wasnt that great, but im glad optical has caught up and in some cases surpassed coax...😊
@WILLIAMMCLEAN-nn1my18 күн бұрын
I found the same with the SU 1 DAC. Optical was generally better sounding than coax. Thanks again for a most informative video.
@BruTay545418 күн бұрын
I use optical for my SMSL SU-1 from my Bluesound Node (N130). I used coax initially but got random dropouts with it; the dropouts stopped when I switched to optical. FWIW.
@19fenderman6021 күн бұрын
Can anyone tell me if I can use my iPhone with this?
@marcob.780125 күн бұрын
What a well considered, probative and informative video! Thank you sir.
@TrollMeister_26 күн бұрын
So what is the conclusion ? That a DAC released in 2022, the very well regarded AK4493S is only marginally better than a DAC from ~35 years ago ?
@bobking639928 күн бұрын
One of these turntables is coming up in Piers Motley Auction s Sale ( Exmouth) . Lot 1317. 10th September..
@Lego6980Ай бұрын
Very informative. Thanks
@052RCАй бұрын
I had this CD player and the 508.24. One thing you want to keep in mind with these older players, is the early 90's was a time when they finding out what the effects of jitter were, and they weren't sure what to do about it. This is when the Genesis Time Lens came out and Sonic Frontiers & Audio Alchemy had they're jitter reduction devices, as well. They were all very popular. However, back then, the best way to deal with jitter, was to use a single box CD player over separates. So, if you are going to use one of these as a CD player, I would say that's fine, but if you just want it for a transport, I wouldn't do it. I would buy something newer. I know the transport itself is made better than most of what's currently out there, but they didn't have the connections sorted out until later on. Wadia came up with their clock link system, dCS has their system, etc.... I would be looking for something more modern to use with a separate dac.
@AudioRamblingsАй бұрын
Thanks for the advice, I will try and look out for a Wadia although I think they maybe a bit expensive?
@ksmedlanberg8475Ай бұрын
Thanks for the good info )
@mikehoward4583Ай бұрын
The meridian 208 24bit cd player was even better than 206.
@AudioRamblingsАй бұрын
would love to hear one.👍
@robertaksland1471Ай бұрын
I power my SU-1 with the Ifi iPowerX, and optical sound from my laptop trough a 3,5mm minijack toslink plug. This give me the best sonic performance and I truly love it! Thank you for pointing out the importance of a good power supply for the SU-1, it is really the key to make it shine.
@El_white_horseАй бұрын
I connect this dac to my receiver in optical. But the optical light in the dac is always blinking.
@AudioRamblingsАй бұрын
Not sure why that happens, I only use coaxial connection and that does stop flashing. Have you tried switching it on and off once connected to optical?
@thelowprofile9767Ай бұрын
Brings me memories back in the days. I also remember Meridien made digital speakers.
@jamesmansion2572Ай бұрын
Why does anybody bother with a CD transport these days? Modern DACs have USB and will operate in 'pull' mode, using the clock in the DAC. This will be much less jitter prone than using coax or toslink and doing clock recovery, and if you are concerned about the ground and power lines transmitting noise then an isolator is not hard to find. Ripping software is pretty good, FLAC is lossless, playback is way more convenient than swapping disks, and the ripped data will outlive the silver and plastic.
@trevorbartram54732 ай бұрын
Good review but a note of caution. When buying a used player ask the seller how much use it's had. I've had high end Denon & NAD CD players that lasted ten years, at approx 1000 discs/year usage, that eventually started skipping due to a weak laser, fair enough. Replacement mechanisms may no longer be available & finding a competant repair shop is difficult & expensive. I've had a couple of less expensive players that only lasted a couple of years due to their cheap Chinese mechanisms. I presently use a Panasonic A110 DVDA player that is >25 years old, sounds really nice & I bought a used A110 as backup in case of failure, cheap insurance. Good luck & cheers!
@almc-wi5vo2 ай бұрын
What is the minimum watts recommended. I have two, a 100 RMS WPC and a 250 RMS WPC setup?
@TheNorliss2 ай бұрын
Those speakers are beasts and that's a hell of a system. Obviously the monobloc amps are superfluous to requirements now. Is he going to sell them?
@AudioRamblings2 ай бұрын
No the monobloc amps are called into duty when he runs other speakers.
@daveuk13242 ай бұрын
I love ATC speakers, but prefer their active models.
@AudioRamblings2 ай бұрын
I felt they had a beautiful natural warm sound and indeed these were the active models.
@HuyNguyen-ce2me2 ай бұрын
try Nagaoka MP-500
@AudioRamblings2 ай бұрын
Its on my list👍
@magnificentmusicusa2 ай бұрын
How about LVB 250? Is it worth the price difference between the 2m black? Thanks
@Some_D0nkus2 ай бұрын
Great video. I love these units. Restored a few CD207 units which are very similar.
@frankgeeraerts62432 ай бұрын
I modified and upgraded the clock in my thirty years old CDP.........NO SS , directly into a triode and opt.........far better music from CD and more analog sounding than many so called very nexpensive high end ....and no longer listening fatigue...... The 206 was the first CDP I could listen to without wanting to run out of the room........
@mikepxg64062 ай бұрын
Boring.
@RogerBergqvist2 ай бұрын
I remember this one. Meridian is a really expensive brand, but the design was cool. Linn almost.. This must sound good even today.
@davestevens41932 ай бұрын
$800 in 1990 about $1400 today. Smsl SU-1 is an $80 DAC. Not sure what the point is. You could get about equal sound with a used $10 dvd player as transport and probably a remote too.
@DP-qp8wr2 ай бұрын
I use it with a Yamaha Streamer, WXC 50 and it sounds good.
@ThresholdZhor2 ай бұрын
Is a good cartridge but not the best moving magnet, IGD is good but not excellent, Audio Technica 740ML and 760ML are better than the black in overall sound
@eltucamote390324 күн бұрын
No They sound very bright!
@rolfvonmega36583 ай бұрын
I dislike modern dacs as i find them irritating. The classic R2R ladder dacs like the tda1541A and tda 1543 sound way better to me. The new dacs dazzle you with high SNR and miniscule distortion numbers etc compared to the analogue sounding ladder dacs. I think Phillips made the best dacs and nothing has ever come close to their authentic rendition.
@TheGlotz693 ай бұрын
I've heard this back then! Signature Audio was a great Meridian dealer. If one person touts Meridian and craps on MQA, shame! And spend some more please, on the SU-10 or the X.. sheesh. $100 for a DAC is great, but there is better for that CDP.
@robertgough58043 ай бұрын
I have one get in touch meridian fans immaculate
@300katsutoshi3 ай бұрын
The basic performance of MERIDIAN is excellent, so I think the sound quality will be even better if you replace it with a high precision clock. Sound Den in Japan sells and replaces high precision clocks.
@VetusMobile143 ай бұрын
I had a similair experience with an old (1999) Denon 5000 dvd/cd player, what a nice natural sounding dac is in inside this unit (4 × pcm 1704 Burr Brown dac chips). I like it better than the modern dacs I own. Also a litle less forward and maybe slightly less detail but so smooth sounding, no harshness like a lot of the modern stuff. These old r2r dacs only 24 bits but sound much more analogue and you can listen to them for hours.
@marcdavis88423 ай бұрын
I have that exact same experience with my beloved Denon A11 ..it also has 24bit 192 burr brown dac but it's Soooooo velvety smooth & warm with alot of richness absolutely love it to bits and it performs way better than than my Marantz SA-15S1! So I don't use the Marantz anymore. The Denon also gives absolute clean clarity.
@VetusMobile143 ай бұрын
@@marcdavis8842 The A11 sounds like nice beast as well! Almost bought an Denon A1 for the living room, some guy just beat me to buy it... Nice thing with the 5000 and A1, they both have a digital input , so you can hook up a streamer and use the dac separatly
@dahaizang3 ай бұрын
Can you explain how adapting USB to coaxial improved sound quality? I thought it would be identical because they are both digital.
@AudioRamblings3 ай бұрын
I believe technically the way digital information is transmitted via USB compared to coaxial is different. SPDIF (coaxial) is a dedicated digital standard interface where as USB is a universal data transfer interface. The way they influence how digital information is transmitted is different and therefore sound quality can be affected especially as noise can be introduced using the USB connection for both power and data transfer . As with all things digital it is always best to try for yourself both connections and see if you hear a difference.
@dahaizang3 ай бұрын
@@AudioRamblings I think I understand the difference. But in the video you seem to be saying the first leg of the transmission is via USB, which feeds into a converter to spdif in coaxial cable. If the signal in USB is bad, wouldn't that be bad downstream? And I thought whatever problems are present in the USB would be fixed in the DAC. USB 2.0 is asynchronous with error retransmission and should eliminate data loss.
@Audifilo653 ай бұрын
Me gusta que no solo se haga una reseña de un producto, sino que se hable de sus distintas posibilidades de conexión. Es la primera vez que veo tu canal, porque mi SMSL SU-1 llega este próximo lunes. Felicidades desde Ciudad de México!!!
@piotrkaczmarczyk17923 ай бұрын
Try this cd-player with much more advanced modern DAC from Topping, SMSL or Denafrips. It deserves it and you wil be amazed. :)
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx3 ай бұрын
I can't tell the difference between a mid-rate mp3 and a CD. But this is still a fascinating video.
@frankgeeraerts62432 ай бұрын
You would with equipement that makes the musical differences clearly audible.......unless you have hearing problems.
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx2 ай бұрын
@@frankgeeraerts6243 Not really. I have a lot of music on my computer's drive. Some of it is top bit-rate rate rips from CDs; most is downloaded from KZbin at whatever rate their free service is. Generally, the two are indistinguishable on my AKG K245 headphones, let alone on my Sony speakers or other audio systems which have to be at low volume to avoid disturbing my neighbours. Occasionally, I find terrible low-rate uploads with the swooshy effect that is horrible but mostly it's easily good enough. For me, I hear much greater sound artefacts at the final state: earbuds, headphones or speakers.