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Yeah this is really just a demo of the principal of neg full, I knew there was going to be reflections here which is why we set it up. Also there was classic bay lighting in the warehouse ceiling which we turned on for this example. You're not wrong about the Kupo being very slightly reflective actually, I know velvet or fleece have great absorption properties and are relatively cheap per metre for fabric! :) Thanks so much for watching! 🙌

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We're not quite at the level yet where we can give cameras away! Hahaha perhaps when we hit 100k subs!

Hey thanks so much for the great question! Do you know how many dB your environment will be? My team and I have actually used these in the studio setting (shown) and also in a 500 person theatre with the same band playing both times. I was able to hear everyones voices super clearly and loud enough in both situations. I will say though, in the studio the drums came through the mic easily, mainly the snare - however it was a super loud live snare right next to me, so I feel like that's to be expected. Something I've found is they can be quiet, but only if the person speaking doesn't have the mic close enough to their mouth. In these louder environments it's super important to have the mic close to the mouth, then they're totally fine. You could easily get away with the mic at a greater distance in a normal filming environment, but when it's noisy bringing the mic close is the way to go. (just make sure your crew are aware) Another thing to consider is what genre and room your band is in. I haven't tested them out in a 'pub' style gig with low ceilings and loud AF punk drums and screaming guitars. (This is why I was wondering what dB range the music in your scenario might be) As for latency I didn't even consider any latency for these like I would with video transmission. I spoke to my team and they immediately replied. hahahaha It seems instant? PS - The batteries are insane, I charged them when they arrived and literally haven't charged them since. We were on a shoot a couple of weeks back using them and they still had battery left!

@ I'm using them for EDM concerts so I'm not sure what the db would be but it's loud for sure, definitely would have to speak very loudly. Most of our guys using them wouldn't be right beside the speaker but at the back or lighting booth. I'm deciding between these and the hollyland solidcom c1 pro since they're both on 1.9ghz and have noise cancelling. But these are a couple hundred bucks cheaper so I'm doing some investigating.

@@tmanngyn If you're in Australia I think the max dB at the mixing desk is 100-110dB from memory. (loud!) An issue with EDM is going to be the amount of transients in the music, being so drum based there will be a lot of snare coming through is my guess. (as the snare sits in a similar range to vocals) As far as comparing the two models; there wouldn't be a lot of difference in the ENC between them, as there isn't a lot you can do with transients coming through with NR tech currently. But what I can say is it will be as though your crew are talking to you right in your ear. (With the types of mics headsets use it will be super difficult to cancel EVERYTHING out of them if your in an EDM show) With my experience in both studio and theatre environments, everyone was easily heard and understood, which is what you want in a headset!

@@kitherco appreciate it, probably will go with the accsoons because of the better battery life and cheaper price!

Thanks so much! I actually haven't seen the Senny tutorials, but I'll check them out now! Hahahaha

Thanks! 😄 We're still fairly new to KZbin, we only properly started uploading about two months ago, so hopefully it grows slowly. :)

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Thanks so much for watching! Are you using COBs at the moment?

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Legend! Appreciate you taking the time to watch our stuff! 🙌

For us, 4200K isn't as common, so I chose to focus on the 3 temps we tend to use the most. 3200K is just my go to for warm lamps. Although I will add here that I will often warm our key light up by taking it to around 4800K. Do you use 4200K a lot?

This video is more about how to set bi-colour lights to achieve particular looks, set against a camera WB of 5600K. What I normally like to do on sets is set every camera to 5600K and then tune the lighting to where I need it for the scene. This means I can pretty easily create different temperatures across a room or set warm/cool prac lights against my key as I have a set 'neutral' point.

@@kitherco Make a video where you set the camera to different WB setting, and compare how a 5600K light will look like, etc.

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Yeah we shot this one a little 'Spur of the moment' so I'm just using the lower grade Rode lav. (on my collar) I've noticed it doesn't take sibilance too well, but I've also sent it into KZbin pretty hot (not clipped, but with a peak of about -0.5) So it could be a combo of YT crushing it and a cheaper mic! If you watch some of our other vids, they've been recorded with a Senny MKH416 into a 32bit float pre amp. :)

Hey thanks so much for the great feedback! :) What kind of lights are you running?

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We actually have a video coming out next week on how to make set lighting look more natural! But for the most part, book lighting is actually a very natural looking light, especially if you're trying to enhance/emulate a diffuse natural window light or softer indoor lighting. What we show here is literally just a demo, in a white cyc.

As if your mom won't let you repaint! hahahaha Actually all of my colour contrast usually comes from RGB lights, which offer a large amount of flexibility - even in the kitchen! :)

@@kitherco My point is that overall colors of the scene for contrast / dominant color / tone relies more on the art department and set design.

@@ZvilgantisKailis Yeah depending on the scene, art department can play a large role! We usually get our DoP and Art Dept in conversations pretty early on to make sure they both work super well together. The knowledge of how colours work together and also how light plays with different practical elements is still incredibly important in both areas.

@@kitherco Exactly. KZbinrs tend to do all this work just by grading :D

Absolutely! This is a decent intro to the way we think about lighting on set, but I can absolutely do some videos that are more in depth and maybe show us building lighting on a set. :)

@@kitherco That would be great, especially for exploring the concept of WB and thinking about how to setup for "proper" exposure and not just getting random results ;) I had to experiment a bit myself as often times when doing classical music production I have to shoot from 50-70ft away ... lighting and exposing for a scene with so much differentiation between wide and close ups was tricky as I could't find any educational tutorials on this specific topic.

@@ioannisandriotis7813 Yeah that's interesting! Especially if what you're describing with the music performance was a live concert with programmed lighting. Not having control over lights is tough, especially when they can change unpredictably - like in most concerts!

@@kitherco Yes, concerts and uncontrolled low light gigs it's a whole different story. The most tricky part of these projects is the fact that Florescence lights are hitting a harsh reflective stage and everything just looks orange and yellow. On top of that most musicians wear black and white shirts ... huge contrast. Good luck white balancing and exposing correctly! .... I am feeling good now but it took me a while to learn how to do it. In regard to lighting, I am more interested for dedicated music sessions. For example. do you bring the light close to the artist and then remove the stand in post to get better coverage or not. Theory and some tricks that come from practice :) Thanks again!

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Hey Jorge, thanks so much for taking the time to write such a detailed comment! You are half right and half wrong here actually! I was going to add a 3x3 floppy to that side to create more of a shadow side (as I mention in the video) and I was also going to add a fill light (which I also mention in the video) but once I framed up and looked at the shot, decided I didn't need either of them. Had I thought the cyc walls were adding a huge amount to the 'shadow side' in this shot, I would have added a flag to it, but it actually wasn't doing a huge amount over all. Yes there was some bounce, but not enough to significantly alter the results, as we were far enough away and the light was dim enough for it to be somewhat neutral. Remember in any room you will be getting some sort of bounce from something, unless you're shooting in a void or in the dark. This is still a great demo of what the results of a book light will achieve! Thanks again for the comment! :)

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Thanks! This is a kit from Glide Gear that has a 4x4, 6x6 and 8x8 included, however only one size can be used at once. It's a fantastic entry level scrim kit! www.amazon.com.au/Glide-Gear-Photography-Butterfly-Collapsible/dp/B07P8BN8NR/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1VXKASAQQCYUN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HRyDcDfI734ztsgpfJB7DAcnbStIOoEqKf10KtF0uHvH3x1iH_BrgQ5W_0QNGnP1hV0ZXj9RAqY7hanfkz76G23uytfJmN94ym7CUnf-K6SoTIAQM3XrJlQA9pie8P7_7HcEcroQkjSSMFNDKTQ-XeNKzc4lu02S_XQMVslYb2TW91_Z7YbsXyZXc7yLnHf6BTa8_xNCe7RWG6J2eDgNHFYKHfYOm2ApNwlg10AA7tRq0erSOJm560wm6FbBG07wy2yqxMZSbTkR8nkER3OmG6NdfnJXwuHwd4d7oHIt_kc.tAJGLssDf6Q4cmpnR8wzfJk6NDdiBBzN9Z5s73C5blw&dib_tag=se&keywords=glide+gear&qid=1728352962&sprefix=glide+gea%2Caps%2C404&sr=8-7

@@kitherco Awesome. I had actually been looking into that one for a while but hadn't seen enough reviews to know if it was reliable.

@@daleelliott7390 Yeah I felt the same way when I was looking around for one. I figured for the price point I couldn't go wrong! A couple of things that could be better: I would prefer a square tubing instead of round for the frame, which would help the clamps lock in more and stop slip when mounting horizontal. Also the frame is definitely 'lightweight' so tends to twist a bit on the larger sizes like 8x8. For indoors it's been absolutely fine for us though and for the price it's unbeatable. (Currently even cheaper than we bought it for at $593AUD) However if you're after a super sturdy and absolute pro level scrim kit, you might want to look at a Westcott or even Kupo. (you will be looking at much higher $ though)

I think they're fairly well priced given they're full RGB and super bright. What are you comparing them to? :)

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Sounds like a brilliant premise for another video where we test this actually! I just did some rough tests on grid paper with some macro lenses to get the same distances and wide angle still skews proportions, but it was just a rough test. Keen to set this up again and test for this!

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Non-detatching power cable? You mean from the actual panel? One of the great things about these lights is actually how easy they are to store, the cases they come with are awesome!

@@kitherco Yeah but its going to bend , get bashed , much better if they design one that unplugs from the light , its going to cost more but rental houses might buy them . Every other review Ive seen mentions this as a con .

@@robinprobyn1971 Interesting! As a production company, I can't see this being an issue for us at all! I've actually been using these for a few months and didn't even consider this being a problem. Also our local hire houses have jumped on board with these lights and love them! I can see where you're coming from though, I'll let you know if it's starts to show signs of wear in that area, but from the use we've given them so far they're like new.

@@robinprobyn1971extremely valid point. Cable gets damaged some how and you’ll have to spend a car payment on a new light fixture

The legend himself! Thanks so much for watching mate, I aspire to your great heights one day! 🙌

Absolutely! Our bounce was actually out on a shoot when we shot this and we had to grab this silver one from the studio store! 😅😂

@@kitherco ahhhh! That makes sense! The best equipment is the kit you have with you

@@NellerProductions For sure! We're fairly new to KZbin and a production company first and foremost, so it will be interesting to see how this goes! Hopefully we have enough time to keep doing fun videos like this! :)

Was going to ask about the silver bounce board. The ultra bounce white board, where would I find that or was it something that will have to be made?

Yeah you could definitely achieve some really beautiful results with a 150! Softness in light will generally come from large and diffuse sources, so a 150cm dome would work quite well. One advantage this set up would have over something like that is being able to light a large space. What we've shown here is a cool demo of the technique, but if you scale this up so instead of a 6x6 scrim you're using perhaps a 20x20 and a much larger light source at a distance, you're starting to get some incredible results for much larger spaces. We run the Nanlite 90cm parabolic's as well as the 120cm lanterns, which all do a great job! We will look into doing a comparison vid in a real world setting between them all! Great idea! :)

@@kitherco yeah no for sure a 20x20 would make a maaaasssiveee difference ! You'll deffo need the space for it hahaha

So if you need to have this set up a long distance from the talent, one solution would be to go large and more powerful with the light. Generally to get soft sources you want large diffuse light, as you mentioned pulling the source further away will make it smaller comparative to the talent and so will lose some of the effect. In this case going larger and brighter could help. Generally we don't use this for interviews, as we would need much more control in directionality than this set up provides. It's also just way easier to throw up a couple of softboxes on a COB when under the time constraints of an interview schedule. We use the book light set up for giving nice soft even lighting for larger spaces, and we would normally use a lot of light over distance! 🎉

@@kitherco yes, I feel you. I normally use a 120cm octobox for interviews and a bar light for the back light. Generally, I find the same problem, I want to go closer to the subject to get softer light but the angle of the cameras doesn’t allow me to.

Thanks so much for the super kind words! We're fairly new to KZbin, so really appreciate your support! 🙌

@@kitherco you will go a long way.. already subbed to your channel.. if you remember we had a chat in Instagram..

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I'm not too sure what you're asking exactly, but the lens would have been set at around f2.8. :)

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With a powerful enough light, loss of light isn't too much of an issue, at least in terms of camera setting. This would have been at base ISO in Log at 640, with an aperture of about f2.8, shot at 25fps with a 180° shutter angle. With studio settings I always do my best to work the lighting to base ISO, as most of the time we have full control over lighting.

That could be an interesting comparison, we might have to do another video on it! One thing that would happen for sure is the light would lose all sense of directionality and there would be light spill everywhere. (Although the book light is also a bit like that, bouncing off a cyc wall would be the extreme case) Generally the larger and more diffuse a light source is, the softer it will be. Thanks so much for watching! 🙌

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Actually he does not. He mostly does a single bounce diffusion because otherwise - as it is mentioned in the video with book lighting - the light spills everywhere. I don't remember him ever using double diffusion.

@@priyeshpv Let's get Deakins on the phone and sort it out! 😄☎

@@priyeshpv It's a great way for lighting a space as opposed to just one subject. Deakins is a big fan of the cove lighting set up which is when you bounce multiple light sources off unbleached muslin at varying intensities to get a nice wrap.

Great question! They're called a Cyclorama wall. It's probably best to search how to build them as they're not simple. This video might help! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3W8mpmbqatqqdUsi=VXdrOP-5PwQvQKuZ

This is a kit from Glide Gear that has a 4x4, 6x6, and 8x8 in it. It's a great entry level scrim kit, selling for around $780AUD on Amazon. 🙌

Thanks so much for the awesome feedback! We should have a new video every week! 🙌 Anything you would want to see?

@@kitherco wonderful !! i am struggling with product video(advertisement)at studio setup. any lighting tips and equipment info should be useful. thanks alot

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