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@annierotberg8861
@annierotberg8861 Жыл бұрын
its easier to give a reward. period. the people that dont want to relinquish that are the ones in power. I am interested in this concept and will continue to read up on it. he is very interesting
@abepatren
@abepatren Жыл бұрын
Society which includes every institution is geared towards rewarding and therefore we get bored people doing boring jobs. Passion is lost.
@berbudy
@berbudy Жыл бұрын
wow even back in the day there are too much commercial break
@Maximus-gp7td
@Maximus-gp7td Жыл бұрын
You are sooo right Mr. Kohn...!
@thekcumeh
@thekcumeh 2 жыл бұрын
I have one problem, why was this so short with plenty of interruptions? Is that how Oprah's show is structured? I was hoping for more time on the block for him to get the information to sink in. Some of the ladies were really willing to learn.
@robertkauffman8137
@robertkauffman8137 2 жыл бұрын
What was he thinking when he tried to stiff his Mexican caddy? That is what i's like see in an interview on his brainworks.
@moonwolf2545
@moonwolf2545 2 жыл бұрын
so the kid that wasn't paid for being tested were basically used as child labor or you can as say slave labor is not a reward if you work for it, So should I stop rewarding my worker with cash for their work?
@Neilgs
@Neilgs 3 жыл бұрын
If you can't bride your children you'll have to learn how to slow down, feel, reflect with increasing nuance and reciprocally engage with your child! How novel! How sad!
@juangarza4329
@juangarza4329 3 жыл бұрын
lot's of karens in the audience - poor alfie is battling a losing fight
@inlumina_punctro
@inlumina_punctro 3 жыл бұрын
the ”establishment” represented in the audience by those 2 ladies are in a difficult situation. They know deep inside that the actual school system is killing the joy and passion out of the children.. and she/they think like ”how can i renounce at rewards (and grades), there it will be no more learning, i have to manipulate them, i have to force them to learn what the program says”....”i have to maintain my job, etc ”. Watch Ken Robinson to further understand how school kills creativity and passion with laser precision, almost no one escapes.
@kidsgetfit3
@kidsgetfit3 4 жыл бұрын
I love it
@wendyshofner8308
@wendyshofner8308 4 жыл бұрын
My Granddaughters and we have custody of them. They go to a school that uses rewards for good behavior. Most of the time they end up rewarding the bad behavior. I"m looking for a good plan to suggest/implement in an IEP. PBIS will not be used. I will remove them from this school, if I have to.
@excitedaboutlearning1639
@excitedaboutlearning1639 4 жыл бұрын
How many commercial breaks are there in just 12 minutes of programming.
@calippo4202
@calippo4202 2 жыл бұрын
worse then youtube adds aIr
@76parn
@76parn 4 жыл бұрын
I read 2 Books from alfie Wonderfull Philosophie
@buddinganarchist
@buddinganarchist 4 жыл бұрын
Alfie is one of our top progressives that the media ignores. Scary, because the research is dead on.
@gkool4655
@gkool4655 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: " He crazy" Alfie: "The research says I'm right" ( till he's proven right 20 years later with Millenials and snowflakes and offence culture).... Everyone: " Genius" Alfie: "The research says I'm right"
@emi11iana
@emi11iana 3 жыл бұрын
youre so quirky 😍😍
@Moszan
@Moszan 2 жыл бұрын
Those who bitch and moan over snowflakes tend to be snowflakes themselves.
@gkool4655
@gkool4655 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moszan Combat Vet here who's seen action on 3 continents. But yeah keep telling yourself that cupcake
@Moszan
@Moszan 2 жыл бұрын
@@gkool4655 Great for you, bud. What does that have to with snowflakes and millennials?
@pattywood586
@pattywood586 5 жыл бұрын
When Oprah says "We all loved those gold stars" I wish Alfie would have responded by illustrating how the fond feelings of nostalgia and happiness were for the gold start and not the thing that the gold stars were supposed to be encouraging.
@a.p.49
@a.p.49 5 жыл бұрын
I fully agree and I regret it is so often used in society as well to manipulate adults in stead of inviting them to take responsability.
@zhana4518
@zhana4518 5 жыл бұрын
What he is saying is very similar to what Marshall Rosenberg says in "Nonviolent Communication". What matter is WHY the child or young person behaves in a particular way. Marshall also says educating children using rewards and punishments teaches them to become factory fodder in peacetime and cannon fodder in wartime.
@antiacus
@antiacus 5 жыл бұрын
Rewards can be used to influence behavior long enough to form habits.
@CurvyCass1982
@CurvyCass1982 5 жыл бұрын
Love Alfie kohn, I completely understand and I do not punish or bribe
@TENNESSEEAUCTIONEER
@TENNESSEEAUCTIONEER 5 жыл бұрын
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@TENNESSEEAUCTIONEER
@TENNESSEEAUCTIONEER 5 жыл бұрын
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@rpols22
@rpols22 5 жыл бұрын
99% of what came out of his mouth was of what not to do. Only 1% of the actual technique, and thats not due to Oprah interrupting. He really didn't have much to say on "what to do". I dont think he is full of itsh, just think he hasn't developed his theory completely. On to the next-one....
@BrainyWoman
@BrainyWoman 6 жыл бұрын
He's brilliant.
@stellafokas12
@stellafokas12 6 жыл бұрын
This man is beyond the curve, his approach has helped us in many ways that I keep on seeing with my children, as affirmations that this was the only way to go. Thank you so much, so glad I discovered and had the wisdom to read his books!
@MsBeemer1
@MsBeemer1 7 жыл бұрын
Love this guy
@DariushArdavan
@DariushArdavan 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my god how did this show ever get famous? How did she manage to reduce everything down to shit with a guest like Alfie?
@drkviol8013
@drkviol8013 8 жыл бұрын
sounds like Red John
@raymondhaling3870
@raymondhaling3870 7 жыл бұрын
Drk Viol801 vgy
@Vache0espagnole
@Vache0espagnole 8 жыл бұрын
$$$ becomes the ultimate value, everything else: literature, music, science, art, just necessary contingencies to be exploited for more $$$. It's systemic.
@lightningtreeband
@lightningtreeband 8 жыл бұрын
Kids know when they are being manipulated be either punishment or reward, they are also smart enough to understand an explanation of real rationale behind attempts at control. Choices and honesty. Autonomy in education. What a concept. Kids are also quite capable of engaging in counter control. A little respect for autonomy in education would be so healing for so many people.
@nalinimaraj9858
@nalinimaraj9858 8 жыл бұрын
I think Alfie Kohn's theory makes sense because its important to motivate and encourage the child to do the action for the love of it. Its going to be a harder and longer process but its the right way to do it. We can't keep rewarding kids for action. I have tried and my son gets bored. So now I am going to follow Alfie Kohn's method where you encourage the child to do something because in the long run it will help him.
@NicolasConnault
@NicolasConnault 6 жыл бұрын
It's not his theory, it's called Self-Determination Theory and its authors are Richard Ryan and Edward Deci.
@lovelygirl2141
@lovelygirl2141 8 жыл бұрын
Alphie Sucks! He is wrong too!
@diegoreis6584
@diegoreis6584 9 жыл бұрын
great vid!
@Orf
@Orf 9 жыл бұрын
Better quality video anywhere?
@AnnaMoss87
@AnnaMoss87 9 жыл бұрын
I just love him.
@MrIzzyDizzy
@MrIzzyDizzy 9 жыл бұрын
watch dan pink the surprizing science of motivation, he recognises similar results
@TerrorJesus
@TerrorJesus 9 жыл бұрын
That about sums it up for me.
@LeviathanSpeaks1469
@LeviathanSpeaks1469 9 жыл бұрын
Just curious... does Alfie Kohn have kids?
@piotr803
@piotr803 9 жыл бұрын
Not important.this is not about his personal experience but about what research says. But since you ask , he apparently has 2 kids.
@mkeyultra
@mkeyultra 8 жыл бұрын
+LeviathanSpeaks1469 Alfie has two children.
@swarren1075
@swarren1075 8 жыл бұрын
+LeviathanSpeaks1469 He definitely does now - don't know if he had them when this aired.
@jgboogades
@jgboogades 9 жыл бұрын
While this is interesting, the example with the students does not offer the 3rd option where the students could get the dollars after they completed the puzzles.
@piotr803
@piotr803 9 жыл бұрын
There are other studies which prove that it works the same way. Lookup candle experiment.
@jgboogades
@jgboogades 9 жыл бұрын
Will do! :)
@YOHON
@YOHON 9 жыл бұрын
Ayyy shouts out to Mr. Gorski
@XxDEREK925xX
@XxDEREK925xX 9 жыл бұрын
Ayyy shouts out to Mr. Gorski
@KingSonicFanX
@KingSonicFanX 8 жыл бұрын
I have him right now.
@XxDEREK925xX
@XxDEREK925xX 8 жыл бұрын
YES! I have been waiting fo this day to come lol
@KingSonicFanX
@KingSonicFanX 8 жыл бұрын
+XxDEREK925xX What do you mean?
@GirlWithEyeballs
@GirlWithEyeballs 8 жыл бұрын
+XxDEREK925xX aka bae
@davidmorris8526
@davidmorris8526 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this up Gio! My VHS was getting old...
@primatesto4874
@primatesto4874 10 жыл бұрын
I didn't get rewards, it was "Do this or you'll get a spanking." It was pretty effective to be honest.
@Moszan
@Moszan 2 жыл бұрын
It's effective on you.
@jbrownil
@jbrownil 10 жыл бұрын
I think it's plausible that Texas teacher is confused by the reward system because it's possible some kids may have actually figured out they like to read once the program got underway, but that's not what Kohn is arguing. She kept shaking her head like "nope. nooope".
@calippo4202
@calippo4202 2 жыл бұрын
Well and what most people also forget. The science shows that most kids tend to be demotivated by rewards. Some kids who may be intrinsically motivated by something in the book already dont have their intrinsic motivation compromised by a reward. This is what most people seem to struggle with. Not EVERYONE loses motivation by rewards and ususally not for EVERY activity. But the majorit of people do, a significant majority. This is why rewards are not a good method. In total, they dont work.
@findenlight
@findenlight 10 жыл бұрын
Truly insightful. Its been years since these discoveries have been made. Its time we started to apply these findings into our everyday life & witness the positive results :-)
@archive-thevenusproject5671
@archive-thevenusproject5671 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, sorry about that. I'm afraid there are larger forces at play.
@efortune357
@efortune357 10 жыл бұрын
Something to note, Alfie isn't just giving his personal opinions and theories he's presenting what the research is showing
@leprechaunalley7207
@leprechaunalley7207 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Fortune Exactly!!
@EnglishWithMrBaker
@EnglishWithMrBaker 7 жыл бұрын
Eric nailed it. And I'd like to add: most of the audience does not have an appreciation for research findings. I wish so bad he could have had 30 seconds (somewhere in between all those "we'll be right back" breaks) to explain how powerful research findings really are. "We have done this over and over with thousands of kids/adults and we find the same thing...this is a fact, not an opinion. Kids ACTUALLY perform/feel worse in the end when they do things for rewards. Under strict, carefully created experimental settings...."
@zhana4518
@zhana4518 5 жыл бұрын
@@EnglishWithMrBaker He does say, "In psychology, this has been shown over and over again". So he implies that these results are from research studies, even though he does not explicitly say so.
@Stillillgal
@Stillillgal 10 жыл бұрын
He confuses the term positive reinforcement. It's obvious that if you give a child money it will stop interest in the task. He received a reward for doing nothing and lost interest in the incentive to solve the problem \ Puzzle But people are getting positive reinforcement not only by people but also by the world itself \ solving promlems
@Muskar2
@Muskar2 10 жыл бұрын
The difficulty I see is if the positive reinforcements become predictable and it starts becoming the goal itself. It's great to be acknowledged or finding a (re)solution to a problem - because it helps building self-confidence as well - but again, it's very important that it shouldn't be the goal. Learning is a lifelong process and it's going to take a lot of motivation to keep going. Curiosity can so easily be over-written by greed (or other selfish behavior) if you're not careful, and I think the lost human potential today is outright sad.
@Stillillgal
@Stillillgal 10 жыл бұрын
Muskar you missunderstood me. sorry about that