its easier to give a reward. period. the people that dont want to relinquish that are the ones in power. I am interested in this concept and will continue to read up on it. he is very interesting
@abepatren Жыл бұрын
Society which includes every institution is geared towards rewarding and therefore we get bored people doing boring jobs. Passion is lost.
@berbudy Жыл бұрын
wow even back in the day there are too much commercial break
@Maximus-gp7td Жыл бұрын
You are sooo right Mr. Kohn...!
@thekcumeh2 жыл бұрын
I have one problem, why was this so short with plenty of interruptions? Is that how Oprah's show is structured? I was hoping for more time on the block for him to get the information to sink in. Some of the ladies were really willing to learn.
@robertkauffman81372 жыл бұрын
What was he thinking when he tried to stiff his Mexican caddy? That is what i's like see in an interview on his brainworks.
@moonwolf25452 жыл бұрын
so the kid that wasn't paid for being tested were basically used as child labor or you can as say slave labor is not a reward if you work for it, So should I stop rewarding my worker with cash for their work?
@Neilgs3 жыл бұрын
If you can't bride your children you'll have to learn how to slow down, feel, reflect with increasing nuance and reciprocally engage with your child! How novel! How sad!
@juangarza43293 жыл бұрын
lot's of karens in the audience - poor alfie is battling a losing fight
@inlumina_punctro3 жыл бұрын
the ”establishment” represented in the audience by those 2 ladies are in a difficult situation. They know deep inside that the actual school system is killing the joy and passion out of the children.. and she/they think like ”how can i renounce at rewards (and grades), there it will be no more learning, i have to manipulate them, i have to force them to learn what the program says”....”i have to maintain my job, etc ”. Watch Ken Robinson to further understand how school kills creativity and passion with laser precision, almost no one escapes.
@kidsgetfit34 жыл бұрын
I love it
@wendyshofner83084 жыл бұрын
My Granddaughters and we have custody of them. They go to a school that uses rewards for good behavior. Most of the time they end up rewarding the bad behavior. I"m looking for a good plan to suggest/implement in an IEP. PBIS will not be used. I will remove them from this school, if I have to.
@excitedaboutlearning16394 жыл бұрын
How many commercial breaks are there in just 12 minutes of programming.
@calippo42022 жыл бұрын
worse then youtube adds aIr
@76parn4 жыл бұрын
I read 2 Books from alfie Wonderfull Philosophie
@buddinganarchist4 жыл бұрын
Alfie is one of our top progressives that the media ignores. Scary, because the research is dead on.
@gkool46554 жыл бұрын
Everyone: " He crazy" Alfie: "The research says I'm right" ( till he's proven right 20 years later with Millenials and snowflakes and offence culture).... Everyone: " Genius" Alfie: "The research says I'm right"
@emi11iana3 жыл бұрын
youre so quirky 😍😍
@Moszan2 жыл бұрын
Those who bitch and moan over snowflakes tend to be snowflakes themselves.
@gkool46552 жыл бұрын
@@Moszan Combat Vet here who's seen action on 3 continents. But yeah keep telling yourself that cupcake
@Moszan2 жыл бұрын
@@gkool4655 Great for you, bud. What does that have to with snowflakes and millennials?
@pattywood5865 жыл бұрын
When Oprah says "We all loved those gold stars" I wish Alfie would have responded by illustrating how the fond feelings of nostalgia and happiness were for the gold start and not the thing that the gold stars were supposed to be encouraging.
@a.p.495 жыл бұрын
I fully agree and I regret it is so often used in society as well to manipulate adults in stead of inviting them to take responsability.
@zhana45185 жыл бұрын
What he is saying is very similar to what Marshall Rosenberg says in "Nonviolent Communication". What matter is WHY the child or young person behaves in a particular way. Marshall also says educating children using rewards and punishments teaches them to become factory fodder in peacetime and cannon fodder in wartime.
@antiacus5 жыл бұрын
Rewards can be used to influence behavior long enough to form habits.
@CurvyCass19825 жыл бұрын
Love Alfie kohn, I completely understand and I do not punish or bribe
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@rpols225 жыл бұрын
99% of what came out of his mouth was of what not to do. Only 1% of the actual technique, and thats not due to Oprah interrupting. He really didn't have much to say on "what to do". I dont think he is full of itsh, just think he hasn't developed his theory completely. On to the next-one....
@BrainyWoman6 жыл бұрын
He's brilliant.
@stellafokas126 жыл бұрын
This man is beyond the curve, his approach has helped us in many ways that I keep on seeing with my children, as affirmations that this was the only way to go. Thank you so much, so glad I discovered and had the wisdom to read his books!
@MsBeemer17 жыл бұрын
Love this guy
@DariushArdavan7 жыл бұрын
Oh my god how did this show ever get famous? How did she manage to reduce everything down to shit with a guest like Alfie?
@drkviol80138 жыл бұрын
sounds like Red John
@raymondhaling38707 жыл бұрын
Drk Viol801 vgy
@Vache0espagnole8 жыл бұрын
$$$ becomes the ultimate value, everything else: literature, music, science, art, just necessary contingencies to be exploited for more $$$. It's systemic.
@lightningtreeband8 жыл бұрын
Kids know when they are being manipulated be either punishment or reward, they are also smart enough to understand an explanation of real rationale behind attempts at control. Choices and honesty. Autonomy in education. What a concept. Kids are also quite capable of engaging in counter control. A little respect for autonomy in education would be so healing for so many people.
@nalinimaraj98588 жыл бұрын
I think Alfie Kohn's theory makes sense because its important to motivate and encourage the child to do the action for the love of it. Its going to be a harder and longer process but its the right way to do it. We can't keep rewarding kids for action. I have tried and my son gets bored. So now I am going to follow Alfie Kohn's method where you encourage the child to do something because in the long run it will help him.
@NicolasConnault6 жыл бұрын
It's not his theory, it's called Self-Determination Theory and its authors are Richard Ryan and Edward Deci.
@lovelygirl21418 жыл бұрын
Alphie Sucks! He is wrong too!
@diegoreis65849 жыл бұрын
great vid!
@Orf9 жыл бұрын
Better quality video anywhere?
@AnnaMoss879 жыл бұрын
I just love him.
@MrIzzyDizzy9 жыл бұрын
watch dan pink the surprizing science of motivation, he recognises similar results
@TerrorJesus9 жыл бұрын
That about sums it up for me.
@LeviathanSpeaks14699 жыл бұрын
Just curious... does Alfie Kohn have kids?
@piotr8039 жыл бұрын
Not important.this is not about his personal experience but about what research says. But since you ask , he apparently has 2 kids.
@mkeyultra8 жыл бұрын
+LeviathanSpeaks1469 Alfie has two children.
@swarren10758 жыл бұрын
+LeviathanSpeaks1469 He definitely does now - don't know if he had them when this aired.
@jgboogades9 жыл бұрын
While this is interesting, the example with the students does not offer the 3rd option where the students could get the dollars after they completed the puzzles.
@piotr8039 жыл бұрын
There are other studies which prove that it works the same way. Lookup candle experiment.
@jgboogades9 жыл бұрын
Will do! :)
@YOHON9 жыл бұрын
Ayyy shouts out to Mr. Gorski
@XxDEREK925xX9 жыл бұрын
Ayyy shouts out to Mr. Gorski
@KingSonicFanX8 жыл бұрын
I have him right now.
@XxDEREK925xX8 жыл бұрын
YES! I have been waiting fo this day to come lol
@KingSonicFanX8 жыл бұрын
+XxDEREK925xX What do you mean?
@GirlWithEyeballs8 жыл бұрын
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@davidmorris85269 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this up Gio! My VHS was getting old...
@primatesto487410 жыл бұрын
I didn't get rewards, it was "Do this or you'll get a spanking." It was pretty effective to be honest.
@Moszan2 жыл бұрын
It's effective on you.
@jbrownil10 жыл бұрын
I think it's plausible that Texas teacher is confused by the reward system because it's possible some kids may have actually figured out they like to read once the program got underway, but that's not what Kohn is arguing. She kept shaking her head like "nope. nooope".
@calippo42022 жыл бұрын
Well and what most people also forget. The science shows that most kids tend to be demotivated by rewards. Some kids who may be intrinsically motivated by something in the book already dont have their intrinsic motivation compromised by a reward. This is what most people seem to struggle with. Not EVERYONE loses motivation by rewards and ususally not for EVERY activity. But the majorit of people do, a significant majority. This is why rewards are not a good method. In total, they dont work.
@findenlight10 жыл бұрын
Truly insightful. Its been years since these discoveries have been made. Its time we started to apply these findings into our everyday life & witness the positive results :-)
@archive-thevenusproject56715 жыл бұрын
Yes, sorry about that. I'm afraid there are larger forces at play.
@efortune35710 жыл бұрын
Something to note, Alfie isn't just giving his personal opinions and theories he's presenting what the research is showing
@leprechaunalley72077 жыл бұрын
Eric Fortune Exactly!!
@EnglishWithMrBaker7 жыл бұрын
Eric nailed it. And I'd like to add: most of the audience does not have an appreciation for research findings. I wish so bad he could have had 30 seconds (somewhere in between all those "we'll be right back" breaks) to explain how powerful research findings really are. "We have done this over and over with thousands of kids/adults and we find the same thing...this is a fact, not an opinion. Kids ACTUALLY perform/feel worse in the end when they do things for rewards. Under strict, carefully created experimental settings...."
@zhana45185 жыл бұрын
@@EnglishWithMrBaker He does say, "In psychology, this has been shown over and over again". So he implies that these results are from research studies, even though he does not explicitly say so.
@Stillillgal10 жыл бұрын
He confuses the term positive reinforcement. It's obvious that if you give a child money it will stop interest in the task. He received a reward for doing nothing and lost interest in the incentive to solve the problem \ Puzzle But people are getting positive reinforcement not only by people but also by the world itself \ solving promlems
@Muskar210 жыл бұрын
The difficulty I see is if the positive reinforcements become predictable and it starts becoming the goal itself. It's great to be acknowledged or finding a (re)solution to a problem - because it helps building self-confidence as well - but again, it's very important that it shouldn't be the goal. Learning is a lifelong process and it's going to take a lot of motivation to keep going. Curiosity can so easily be over-written by greed (or other selfish behavior) if you're not careful, and I think the lost human potential today is outright sad.