I personaly think the Streat kid opening is the most likely start as V gets a stronger bond with Jackie by already knowing Pepe and Mama Welles as well as being a Haywood kid. Like Jackie said there's a chemistry between them unlike with Nomad or Corpo V. I agree that the Sun Ending is the most likely ending for V, alongside the Solo raid on Arasaka; these two together, explicitly cements V's impact on Night City.

I think you are wrong and should replay the game taking your time, instead of rushing through just to post videos. Thats my opinion.

In the ending when V gives jhony his body panam calls him and tells jhony she will get rip V out of his head with her bare hands

Starfield should have been about an intergalactic war between the factions, with like, 5 or 6 fully detailed (Small)planets, imagine actually aiding a well thought out faction in their struggles against the other two or three factions, instead we are told about all this tension from the last war that happened, never shown, you join the Freestar Collective, no harassment from the UC, switch the roles, same thing, the setting had potential Maybe the relics you find are the key to a super weapon, you find it in the mine, pass out from the rads or whatever, wake up, and Sarah has found you, and wants your help securing these artifacts before a big faction can take them, halfway through the story you end up having recruited the members of constellation and found most of the artifacts, Sarah dies from some accident relating to the artifacts and gives you control of constellation, you then have to spend the rest of the game choosing what to do with the artifact, use it as a superweapon or not, side with a faction or remain independent Also add like, races, in the hundreds of years off of Earth humans would have somewhat evolved due to planetary differences

I like to believe the Panam ending is the true ending for V. At least for the V in my multiverse. If not then I feel like with V’s death inevitable he just gave the body to Johnny.

In the credits for this game there is only one writer listed. 1st red Flag. What they needed and didn't do was have one writer for every main caricature in the game. Because no to writers right in the same way, it gives you dimension and possibilities. As for the companions they wrote one story line for one of them then cut a past the other three story lines with a few little tweaks here and there. Then you first go out with them, they will follow your lead kill anything no questions asked. As soon as you start to get to know them a little they all of a sudden grown a conscience, and most of what you need to do in the game is bad. 2nd red Flag. The most glaring one is Andressa, when you first find her weather to go with another companion or not, you see her unloading an entire clip into a downed dead NPC. But I wanted to see just how many clips she would use, I counted 170 clips before I stepped in. No wonder she don't want anyone know what she did, she has problems. So I go with her to a Robot control plant only to see 6 human NPC's clearly killed my the Robot's as ordered by management as a cost cutting measure. So as the player a get pissed and put down the Robot's she freaks out. And wants me apologize for what I did, but I won't do that cause it isn't in my DNA. So the writer wants you the player to kiss ass. Robot's with no feelings gun down a group unknowing NPC's because management wants to cut operating costs. And she is siding with the Robot's and Management, really. Plus the writer didn't think to give you the player the option to stand your ground and tell them to get a life. And give them a good reason why. 3rd Red Flag no consistence, no depth. All of the this poor, and shallow writing, could be fixed with multiple writers. Now I do enjoy playing this game my way by role playing the game, but I have only finished the UC and FS quest lines. The other two I'm not interested in doing at all. And I haven't finished the main quest line either. I do like to explore and build outposts even with all of the problems this game has in it's story telling, and writing options. But, this is enough of a rant from me.

6:02 This is my new favorite quote

I think they'll make female v cannon. They seem to be basically wiping that Vincent ever existed.

What I really really want is for CDPR to continue V‘s story. I am still not ready for a new protagonist

Meyers is definitely bad. Her and the FIA are horrible, then again most of the corps and governments are (not that it excuses it.) It's clear Militech / NUSA, and Arasaka, probably others are in a race to harness the AI beyond the blackwall. I wouldn't be surprised if this plays some role in the future AI conflict I'm expecting will come up, when one of these corps screws up big time. As for Songbird, I'm conflicted. Having a fresh perspective on it, I think sending her to the moon is the best choice. However, I have to wonder if the best outcome for all is killing her, though even then the FIA get the body because Reed can't help but be obedient just like Takemura. My fear is that knowing more context around the whole game, it's clear Blue Eyes is involved in her ending up on the moon. And we really don't know what his or his employers motivations are. It seems likely he's associated with Night Corp for various reasons, but we don't know what their goals are either. They essentially mind control and brainwash people to run things in the background. I would add one thing about the ending where you hand her to the FIA. I would almost bet that you weren't actually in coma for 2 years. I would bet that the FIA used you, and manipulated your memories to forget. It wouldn't be the first time they've taken someone and altered their memories, given them a new life, and studied what happened. This also being in an attempt to create an AI / Human hybrid. Even if it's none of this, I really don't think we can trust them to have even given an honest attempt at curing you without some other motivation. She absolutely is the victim though.

Wow! According to this video, Bethesda managed to make their most pointless game yet. Well done, Bethesda. Well done! Lol.

After watching this video and according to Whitemane we should not play Starfield at all because in the end, it's pointless? Mission accomplished Bethesda, it looks like you did just that. Lol.

Mass effect did a great job faking a huge city

great analysis bro

Tbh siding with songbird makes the most sense. V would sympathize with her regardless of the fact that she betrayed em, V knows she was being used and no matter what path you choose V gets used in a similar way. Only makes sense V would want to save her and look for other options on how to save himself/herself🤷🏻‍♂️

I feel bad for her but I also understand how she got herself in this mess and how it continued to snowball .there really is no right or wrong choice wise . The only person I legit felt bad for was Alex . She didn’t deserve to get killed or to lose her close friend in reed

Reading all these comments shows how little the bandwagon crowd's attention span is. this video? oof "Annoying as hell with unskippable dialogue." Proceeds to chop it up into "convenient to his monologue" pieces. It doesn't take 30 minutes to get to the artifact, like 5 minutes if you can find the shift key. 'forced to go with his robot' - yea i'll give you that, linear story isn't for everybody. go read goosebumps. not mentioning protocol indigo - the fact that you can explore kreet fully, make as many landings as you want - i've maxed out 2-3 skills before ever leaving kreet on extreme settings. "literally all world building we get." besides the lore in kreet research lab? conversations with heller, and linn? all the members of constellation? even the the damn starship technician when landing in New Atlantis? who am I kidding, you probably skipped all the world building 🤣pfft reading right? The pirate bit coming after delivering the artifact? why? and forced to land again? when again? why again? huh? you take off from Vectera, and land on kreet to deal with the pirates stalking the frontier because they think barrett/constellation has hidden trove of treasure due to rumors - Really guy, this is pretty standard game world building here. did driving jackie to night city make you - nah not worth it - bet you hated the iguana Conclusion; None of the points *so far* in this video have basis in reality. I stopped at 4:33 because no thank you. I thought you had something with the title, my mistake. Just more braindead regurgitated drivel

The whole "Choose between lodge or spacestation" choice annoyed me so much. The Lodge is in the middle of one of the most heavily defended cities with a literal army nearby... Just go to them for bloody protection

This game is such a mess, which is a shame cause there are pieces of a good game. If you like mindless killing the same POIs then this is the game for you. They should have done more like The Outer Worlds, we don't need hundreds of planets with the same 4 POIs. They could have taken the UC, Freestar, Neon mission, etc, focused on those, and made a better experience. The skills system sucks, you are limited way too much. Why have base building and shipbuilding behind skills? And to top all this off they like Cyber Punk have the audacity to charge for DLC, like both released crap, Cyberpunks were worse in terms of stability but both should have given the DLC's fro free. These are money-hungry corporate companies that do not care about their customers. But is not their fault, its all the fanboys that will by a turd because they are just, well they know what they are.

I really can't see sending her to the moon as the "correct" ending. Don't get me wrong, better than giving her to Myers, but I honestly believe that Reed wanted to send her to Europe, only that becomes impossible after songbird goes on a rampage. So, I will usually end up "betraying" her, and then doing her request. She's a victim, there's no doubt, however that doesn't mean we should enable her to just massacre people, and then give her to a unknown power, or allowing her to fuck with the blackwall at will. SoMi as presented throughout the entire DLC is shown to have pretty bad judgement of people. Her decisions always backfire and end her up in worse positions. In choosing not to trust Reed and us to look after her, she dooms herself. Ideally the pair of idiots would actually talk to eachother and realise that way before hand, but sadly that's not a option. It sucks, it's a horrible thing to have to do, but that's cyberpunk. There is no happy endings.

also, of course the story sucks, Emil couldn't shove settlement building in this (and we all know that players LOVE settlement building and will happily ignore the story for it)

32:18 yes but, you see, they needed to shove in the "ClImAtE cHaNgE!!!!!" message so...

So glad you touched on how stupid the unity is and how it makes no sense

Putting songbird in that shuttle means massacring an entire spaceport of innocents and Mr blue eyes of night corp (that influenced the peralez family) getting songbird and doing who knows what with the black wall ai persona of songbird (not song so mi). This story is more than just betray reed. Songbird has skeletons in her closet too. Reeds offer was genine in that meyers and fia knew that netwatch and militech would stop at nothing to come after her and meyers initially wanted song dead too, but reed was able to convince meyers to recruit her as an agent rather that have that fate. I see songbird, the black wall ai alter ego, one that genuinely feels betrayed (misguided though it may be) by reed and doesn’t trust him despite being her only anchor as song so mi following taking the offer for the fia. The AI wants to take control of her and her behavior during the chimera fight proves that she is unable to control the ai and that ai is not her, just the black wall talking. Siding with reed and killing her is the best choice, not only because it is her first genuine unclouded decision in the entire expansion, but it makes those who may feel for her, but cannot excuse the destruction she’ll unleash if she gives away control entirely to the black wall another option besides giving her back to that snake meyers. Reed even goes out of his way to say at the basketball court that it may have not been the right decision as an agent of meyers, but it was the right decision for song’s welfare and to prevent a malicious black wall ai from causing a second datakrash.

A decade before Starfield OG BioWare released Mass Effect. There, the player could only explore a fraction of large cities, while the rest of the city was in the distance, or small outposts on underdeveloped planets/planetoids. Bethesda needs to learn that if they can't render an entire city... They don't need to. Either trick the player into believing he's in one, or don't put the player in one at all. It's that easy.

I hope we get to import the savegame like in the Witcher 3. I think it's very doable to reconcile the different endings depending on what the story of the next game will be

I hate spoiling myself on games but I just cannot play this games main story.

I think that the person that the reveal as to who was starborn shouldn't have been the keeper it should have been the man who invented the grav drive that caused the destruction of Earth and he should have been the first star born

The only times i was genuinely exited was on that one mission where you change between demensions to figure out what happend in some lab and try to save everyone and the terra morph that crawl3d into a ship and kill3d everyone. The horror aspect coule of saved this game

Dragon born. Starborn. It took them 20 years to write this lazy piece of caca. Ship building was 99% of my play time

Slight correction: Bethesda DID NOT create the wonderful Fallout lore. Black Isle Studios is the true progenitor.

Just repeating others talking points

I love these discussions. Cyberpunk 2077 is a new experience every time. The Phantom Liberty Mr Blue Eyes ending will be the canon.

You underestimate the depth of human laziness. 180 years is barely 3 generations of humans of age and willingness to do anything. Think of what’s occurred over the past 100 years in real life. Nowhere near as much as could have. For example, we’re still primarily using vehicles based on the same technology as when they were first introduced. In many ways, tech has gone backwards. Point is, 180 years might as well be 180 days, because most humans are lazy fks who just want to play and die.

I feel like the Devil ending is actually one of the more on brand endings, because in the Cyberpunk universe the Corporations ALWAYS win in the end. And opens up an interesting new mechanic for the verse/games with people being able to hop bodies when the current body dies. Similar to that Netflix series. The other thematically correct endings all should end in a way showing that V’s story is either a drop in the bucket and they die, or V still dies but goes out in a blaze of glory and end up a NC legend. But I kinda like the devil idea, V could come back as the new BBEG in place of Smasher as Arisaka’s lap dog. Cause as it goes, “You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain.”

29:53 there's a third option where you can merge/repair the two dimensions instead of choosing one to stay in.

I mean, I still like it tho

one of the moments that broke it for me was coming back to constellation in NG+ in my starborn suit, and load them up on my starborn ship with absolutely zero questions or consequence, even after the hunter is revealed later.

When I played starfield I initially went into the vanguard and went through that quest line and took my sweet time with it. Then it ended and realized it was the main story and the rest of the game was just sub par. I didn’t even have powers

In my opinion we need one more game with V to become the ultimate legend. That being said I would like to think the cannon endings are 1) songbird is sent to the moon which means killing Reid 😪, 2) V is doing the diamond palace heist ( think that’s what’s the space station is called ) side notes would like Jonny to comeback somehow idc how but needs to come back

Would have been a much better story if you sought to destroy the unity. The creators sound like assholes.

The next game won’t have V in it so I think the panam ending makes the most sense as V will be out the picture and him leaving to be happy with her is the best option

In the chapter "Our Quest Is Meaningless" You point out the fight against starborn. Something I think a lot of people fail to realize is just how big an infinite multiverse actually is. In exactly half of all universes, the emissary is our enemy. In exactly half, the hunter is our enemy. If multiverses are proved correct, then there is a universe exactly the same as this universe except that one morning 20 years ago, I had a second bowl breakfast cereal. Infinite universes mean a lot of the same universes.

That's because bethesda is a trash company

bethesda making idiotic main quest that has no sense? it's like they never did that before since fallout 3

lol no wonder you hate Starfield. You love that dice rolling garbage game Boldars Gay 3

I wonder... The guy who invented the grav drive.. In this universe, he never became a starborn. You can see his corpse, and starborn disappear into sparkles when they die, right? Maybe the starborn version who started him on his quest took his time and his grav drive didn't have the flaws, but the guy in this universe rushed it and so his has flaws, and thus earth dies? I haven't played the game, so someone tell me if I'm wrong.

The main story should've been a quarter of the length, give the starborn a bigger role much earlier, and give purpose and meaning to entering the unity.

It had so much potential, but it's just a complete dud. Why not have the setting in a politically tense time? Prelude to a new war? Have the various choices you make along the way actually impact what happens. Join the Vanguard or the Rangers? That matters. Destroy the Ceimson Fleet or cripple the UC? That matters. Use the whole Xenomorph thing? What if the UC makes you an offer to pull additional data from the vault that they use to actually restart the xenowarfare program in secret. Earth? Why not have it destroyed by WW3? And the surviving factions are the remnants from the nation's that fought the war. It just makes too much sense. That provides a reason for actual tension. New Atlantis should be an actual Utopia, with the center of the city being a beautiful and sprawling city, with large tracts of farmland and homestead stretching as far as the eye can see. Give the Collective something to actually covet. Have the Freestar Collective be descendants from Russia and China and stuck on crappy planets, have the people be jealous of what New Atlantis has. The whole space magic thing? This should be a MASSIVE thing that all national governments covet. They should all be vying for you to show them how to access your powers to create their own super soldiers. Lose the entire alternate dimension crap. Add Aliens to the whole scenario. Perhaps working with House Veruun. Have them quietly working behind the scenes to destabilize the UC and the Freestar Collective so they can swoop in and take it all over. POLITICS. Maybe the Crimson Fleet was also funded by House Veruun as proxies. Maybe we can find evidence of this during the infiltration storyline. Choices should impact your companions more. Have more scenes where a choice means life or death for the people following you, or even fight you. Like the Crimson Fleet one, if you actually side with the Pirates, even after learning about their connection with House Veruun in this hypothetical scenario, multiple companions should straight up attack you, and you should never be able to set foot on New Atlantis again. Like, seriously. Choices. Consequences.

don't remember clearly but what sense does it make that you choose your superpowers? Don't recall if these things give specific powers or you choose, that's how memorable it was. The Skirim style is bs to me anyway... also, don't question anything... it just works lol. Also ghettos makes perfect sense. Capitalists need their slaves. Someone needs to do the shit jobs and be poor for others to be rich and do nothing but hold the guns. No wonder zombi games are so prolific, they say f this system, that's how it makes us feel, like being in a zombi apocalypse where we are the zombies (but at least we get to shoot them in games)