I thoroughly enjoyed my 6 years there as regular signalman 1982-88. 7-5-5 😢
@petercollingwood41083 күн бұрын
White levers, white and colours Mmm. Bit more information there I think.
@stephensmith44803 күн бұрын
Westinghouse did a lot of the instrumentation on WW2 Royal Navy Submarines. When these boxes around Crewe were switched over to The Manchester ROC they sent shunting staff to sit with the Signalers for a couple of days to explain some of the shunt moves that they would be asked to perform. They were just not used to having to perform so many moves and constantly having to talk to the PIC's on duty in the yards around Crewe. Most of their work is done on an automatic basis and shunting is what you might call an inconvenience to them.
@stephensmith44803 күн бұрын
It's a shame when all this Railway history is just taken away. I started my Railway career in a little Manual Box, Garston Church Road, 35 years ago.
@AndreiTupolev5 күн бұрын
These big mechanical boxes are amazing. It really is in immaculate condition. Who, though, in the S&T department when that at4:28was installed couldn't spell "received"? 🤔 😁
@irseminorrailwayssection94915 күн бұрын
@@AndreiTupolev I’ve seen better. The plan for the resignalling at Macclesfield had “Stroke” instead of “Stoke”
@fatwalletboy25 күн бұрын
Wow no time to relax
@JAMESJAMES260006 күн бұрын
I was in that box when it closed at midnight on Christmas Eve
@irseminorrailwayssection94916 күн бұрын
@@JAMESJAMES26000 it’s a weird feeling being there when they go
@MrSulzerboy6 күн бұрын
I wish the box could be scooped up by a huge excavator and put in my backyard. Great video, and thanks for sharing.
@AndreiTupolev5 күн бұрын
Be nice if Crewe Heritage Centre could save it like with Crewe North and Exeter West. Am example of an original LNWR box would go just right with their collection
@SpoonyMcSpoonface6 күн бұрын
I hope the LNWR booking desk survived. It’s a shame all these odd boxes are closing. It’s like someone’s pet project to eradicate old and reliable things.
@norburycrossing34269 күн бұрын
What a wonderful set up,truly a labour of love to recreate all that signalling at Preston.
@DrFod10 күн бұрын
Are they demolishing the box or is it going to end up at a heritage railway?
@MostBronzeChunner10 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. The gentleman you interviewed is my grandfather. I'll be sure to show him this video when I next visit him. ❤️
@irseminorrailwayssection949110 күн бұрын
@@MostBronzeChunner you’re most welcome sir, had a good chat with him, my son loved his stories
@MostBronzeChunner10 күн бұрын
@irseminorrailwayssection9491 he might have mentioned that he also builds miniature trains, the ones that you can ride on (there's a nearby park from that signal box that has a track). I used to ride on those all the time when I was a young kid. Each locomotive is built by hand. Literally everything was scratch built in his workshop.
@MostBronzeChunner10 күн бұрын
Btw, my father (his son-in-law) found your KZbin video via the algorithm. So this was indeed a lucky find.
@irseminorrailwayssection949110 күн бұрын
@ brilliant 😁
@frasermitchell918311 күн бұрын
Aren't the boxes in and around Stockport still in use ?
@norburycrossing342611 күн бұрын
Yes , Edgeley 1 and 2 , Stockport 1 and 2 and Heaton Norris.
@irseminorrailwayssection949111 күн бұрын
@@frasermitchell9183 yes they are, though they only use permissive working in rare circumstances whereas SSN and Salop Goods used them continually
@TheDaf95xf12 күн бұрын
Fantastic recording Salop box for nostalgia before its history 😢 Hopefully Crewe heritage centre can recover some of the fixtures and fittings 👍🏻
@irseminorrailwayssection949112 күн бұрын
@@TheDaf95xf the blocks have gone to the Heritage Centre
@SpoonyMcSpoonface13 күн бұрын
White/Blue and White/Black levers,former FPL/ Point levers worked to maintain locking? Those Fletcher blocks have seen some sterling service judging by the state of the woodwork.
@LUAu10113 күн бұрын
Correct
@irseminorrailwayssection949112 күн бұрын
@@SpoonyMcSpoonface yes, when you don’t want to remove the locking due to complexity/time available or cost but wish to take the equipment out of service so even though the equipment is not there the locking still is in the frame Dinting was another example. Went from Mechanical points and fpls to motor points, the fpl lever still was kept and used so even though the motor point did all the work You had to set the non existent fpl lever to clear a route
@The_Grand_Autismo113 күн бұрын
damn, that box is gone now, wonder how long Severn bridge Junctions box will survive, replacing that will be a task, also sad when it happens, not the topic but its sort of relevant, right?
@irseminorrailwayssection949113 күн бұрын
@@The_Grand_Autismo1 it’s an important question, listed or not the underlying keep of structures still continues and with limited access it’s ability to serve visitors is not helpful But who knows Never say bever
@wideyxyz227113 күн бұрын
❤💪
@Crewecabking13 күн бұрын
it's a fantastic signal box it's the best signal box i've visited along side crewe coal yard
@irseminorrailwayssection949113 күн бұрын
@@Crewecabking that box also pops up later in Februarys videos
@zackllewellynmorris14 күн бұрын
come down to the lav line the siginal box is starting renovaiton
@irseminorrailwayssection949114 күн бұрын
@@zackllewellynmorris may get back down in the summer for a visit 😊
@PaulMiller-h2l16 күн бұрын
Crewe Railway Station not train station please
@stephencleaves19 күн бұрын
Living in Radstock myself, its lovely to see the signal box restored and working.
@SpoonyMcSpoonface19 күн бұрын
Nice to see the Bakelite commutators,a shame we couldn’t see them being used. I’ve seen Fletchers and standard Bakelite blocks with AB/PB flaps fitted to them but the slides on the panel face are novel.
@irseminorrailwayssection949119 күн бұрын
@@SpoonyMcSpoonface indeed, and being left and right handed numbering too
@stevelowndes580319 күн бұрын
For anyone wishing to smell Bakelite, Crewe Heritage Centre is the place.
@Novocastrian-wp4ll20 күн бұрын
Impressed at the merging of Block instruments into a modern panel, but at the same time, why is Manual Block still being used with a modern panel?
@irseminorrailwayssection949119 күн бұрын
@@Novocastrian-wp4ll likely due to many factors including lack of track circuiting to carry train descriptions forward, SSN has very few over the points to speed shunting up and that would mean descriptions on re based systems dropping out Ironically in the end the new ROC workstation has rectified that with a combination of tracks and axle counters sections
@wideyxyz227120 күн бұрын
❤
@jimmillington829921 күн бұрын
I worked in the Panel Room 83-89 as announcer. A dream job for a train crank! Great camaraderie.
@wideyxyz227125 күн бұрын
Progress. But i still love my semaphores and levers.
@JohnStokes-c1o26 күн бұрын
Interesting setup. I struggle to comprehend it all. You folks must be really clever. 🙂
@irseminorrailwayssection949126 күн бұрын
@@JohnStokes-c1o it’s the digital magic behind everything that’s the clever part
@collexions26 күн бұрын
So happy to see our Siemens Insight simulator (that my team produced) given a video demonstrating its virtues for NR signaller training 😊
@irseminorrailwayssection949126 күн бұрын
@@collexions I’m very happy you’re happy, maybe worth a video on how you make an idea reality if the company are up for it, We’d be interested
@74HC13826 күн бұрын
It's interesting to see how close Simsig is to the real thing.
@smudge016126 күн бұрын
Manchester ROC must be the ugliest building in Manchester. Hardly any windows or fresh air must be worse than working in Strangeways.
@irseminorrailwayssection949126 күн бұрын
@@smudge0161 what about the Redrock cinema 🙃
@smudge016126 күн бұрын
@irseminorrailwayssection9491 Yes, the Redrock cinema is worse. Another level of ugliness.
@DrFod25 күн бұрын
I imagine many bobbies would find it soul destroying to go from pulling levers in an airy signal box to staring at screens all day at a ROC.
@johnkeepin752726 күн бұрын
It’s interesting to see what it looks like now. Back in 1989 I was involved in the London Marylebone IECC, which was one of the earliest (soon after London Liverpool Street), and later on Slough New (Paddington to Heathrow) At that time the displays were the old CRT units - less flexible than modern flat screens. The size of the available screen units and their format (roughly 4x3) had a lot to do with the design of workable layouts and the method of working, including how to cope with screen failures that could occur occasionally. Originally, Marylebone had a pair of identical workstations, with one being able to take over from the other, or the work could be split across the two. At that time, Automatic Route Setting (ARS) was quite new, and there was a degree of concern about the workload, but in reality most of the time it was handled by one alone.
@TheDaf95xf26 күн бұрын
Really interesting seeing the modern signalling 😊 But also sad that the three signal boxes have closed 😢 Spent a lot of time trains spotting at coal yard and Basford hall 🙁
@Hacienda_2726 күн бұрын
It's always re signalling and never upgrading catenary for higher speeds and introducing in cab signalling
@irseminorrailwayssection949126 күн бұрын
@@Hacienda_27 I believe the trials for the Incab signalling on the Ecml are going well so it is progressing
@millersdalechinley26 күн бұрын
Thank you for all your really interesting videos - much appreciated !!
@irseminorrailwayssection949126 күн бұрын
@@millersdalechinley you’re always welcome. That’s why we do them to show how everyone else does their thing
@julianhawkins317326 күн бұрын
I'm not a signalling professional, just an enthusiast, but this video is engrossing. So, thanks for sharing 😊
@irseminorrailwayssection949126 күн бұрын
@@julianhawkins3173 if you liked it the next three weeks follows the cabins that it took over from -Basford Hall,Sorting Sidings North and Salop Goods
@moormoor428127 күн бұрын
Thanking you most kindly
@doctortinkle383428 күн бұрын
Incomprehensible to me but fascinating. I’ve walked and driven past that building lots of times and would have loved a peek inside.
@irseminorrailwayssection949128 күн бұрын
@@doctortinkle3834 it’s the magic behind it that’s the fun part.
@ben2692Ай бұрын
I did some work experiance with network rail back in 2008 and was given a day in the signal box. The guys actually took the time to explain things and allowed me to set points and signals was awesome.
@simonhodgetts6530Ай бұрын
‘Old’ New Street - I travelled from it and to it a lot in my youth - mainly to and from Newcastle. I have a love-hate relationship with it. I hated it because it was actually an inconvenience with its escalators and stairs down to the platforms. I loved it because, when I was very young, I could get onto a train pulled by a Deltic - my all-time favourite locomotive. I remember the signal box well. Personally I like Birmingham’s 60s architecture- the Rotunda, the old library and so on. It smacked of ‘the white heat’ of 60s Britain, and it’s a shame that a lot of examples of 60s architecture have been raised. Good to see the signal box preserved.
@irseminorrailwayssection9491Ай бұрын
@@simonhodgetts6530 deltics. Bet you got some good views of them powering out the station from the box
@simonhodgetts6530Ай бұрын
‘Old’ New Street - I travelled from it and to it a lot in my youth - mainly to and from Newcastle. I have a love-hate relationship with it. I hated it because it was actually an inconvenience with its escalators and stairs down to the platforms. I loved it because, when I was very young, I could get onto a train pulled by a Deltic - my all-time favourite locomotive. I remember the signal box well. Personally I like Birmingham’s 60s architecture- the Rotunda, the old library and so on. It smacked of ‘the white heat’ of 60s Britain, and it’s a shame that a lot of examples of 60s architecture have been raised. Good to see the signal box preserved.
@74HC138Ай бұрын
I'd love to see that panel preserved, running a simulator, so it could still be experienced in a "working" condition.
@markgr1nyerАй бұрын
I went up there in 2018 as part of my senior conductor training. See how the other half live type thing. I was like a kid in a sweet shop in awe of it having being playing simsig for years
@mickjenkinson9680Ай бұрын
The panel should be preserved
@johncherrington6080Ай бұрын
In the early 90s I worked at New Street and went into the box on a regular basis. I recall that the first time I wnet in and watched the signallers going about their business I was amazed at how they appeared to press a button here and anothed there setting up routes without ever seeming to refer to any documentation. To say I was impressed was an understatement.
@Allan-bp3gjАй бұрын
I was one of the original S&T when the box was came into use, I think I am the only one left, good days in the box and Westpac Mk1 was good apart from when they ot a fault in them and had to be changed
@irseminorrailwayssection9491Ай бұрын
@@Allan-bp3gj legendary status there sir , bet you’ve got some memories of the w years on h t e job 🤗
@sunjamm222Ай бұрын
I remember working on those MK1 Westpac units. They weight a ton and so so easy to damage when moving about. Those pins where a pain. What is missing is the old Westronic system to the outer relay rooms. Replaced by Vaughan's systems.
@rbrwrАй бұрын
I applied for that open day and didn't win. Glad you got a camera inside so we could all see.
@irseminorrailwayssection9491Ай бұрын
@@rbrwr yes I did too, as you say it’s on camera for posterity 🫡
@NigelCrisp-b9vАй бұрын
Thank for this tour of this box. It's been most interesting. As a matter of fact It's listed status should include not just the building but all of the equipment Inside as this is part of history as well.
@irseminorrailwayssection9491Ай бұрын
@@NigelCrisp-b9v it’s odd to think black tiles and black grout as being listed but it does have that Cold War feel to it, plus the very large fire doors
@paged76Ай бұрын
Best place I have ever worked. I’m now working in Birmingham ROC but still covering the New St workstations. It’s just not the same.
@irseminorrailwayssection9491Ай бұрын
@@paged76 I quite like the relative solitude of any box plus the ability to look out a window, it’s a big modal shift working in a Roc, watching folks move about desk to desk using ARS or the Trust to tell you where everything goes, modernisation