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@johnharbin-wr7ej
@johnharbin-wr7ej 2 сағат бұрын
Great video, just found you never stop this great content. All the the best to you
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate it!
@FelessanFA
@FelessanFA 16 сағат бұрын
Enjoyable content, but i had to set speed to 1.5 :D
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 13 сағат бұрын
Haha no worries, maybe I should have board game co. Record all my vids 😜
@JonathonV
@JonathonV 21 сағат бұрын
Completely agree with what you said about Scythe, Dwellings of Eldervale, Paperback, and Cosmic Encounter (I haven’t played the others). I also dislike player elimination and dice combat. I like Scythe more than the others in your list, but I’ve noticed that faction imbalance is a common thread in Stegmeier’s games (Tapestry, e.g.). Here are some of mine: BREW. You wouldn’t expect a game with this many Euro mechanisms and pretty art to be this mean. BROOM SERVICE, REVOLUTION, etc. Almost as bad as the “random dice luck determines everything” is the “players make choices in secret, reveal, then cancel each other out if they match” kind of luck. SEPTIMA does this too, but that’s not the only thing I disliked about that game (I also didn’t like how the action loop was too predictable). CINQUE TERRE: Why do unfulfilled contracts take negative points? Their ability to be fulfilled is determined by a dice roll at the beginning of the game. You start with a contract, and if the dice are unfavourable it’s not worth as many negative points, but it’s not worth as many positive points either, and as soon as you complete a contract you get another one. HUES AND CUES. The hues on the cards don’t match the hues on the board due to bad component quality, so you have to look it up on the board, surrounded by other colours. Huge fail! KLUSTER: This game is beautifully elegant in its simplicity. But I’m easily startled, and don’t enjoy being startled, so this game is just torturous. (Similarly, I also don’t like READY SET BET because of all the sudden yelling.) MERCHANTS OF THE DARK ROAD: Why are there extra hardships for the person who starts a quest when anyone can follow a quest and get almost as much benefits and no risk (they just miss out on the track placement)? For us it turned quickly into a game of chicken because no one wanted to start their own quest. OCEANS: Those predators can get so swingy. You can literally get ones that are so strong that you are passively killing all your neighbours’ species and they have no way to catch up. PULSAR 2849: I’m not convinced that structures are ever worth going for. They require so much of an investment and you have to dig so deep into the pile to get decent ones that if you’re the only one going for structures you’ll definitely lose. That’s all I can think of at the moment!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 21 сағат бұрын
That's a solid list! Hopefully, some of them you can still enjoy. Although, we are very lucky to have so much variety in games that if something bugs us we can move on to another game.
@JonathonV
@JonathonV 21 сағат бұрын
@@DiceonahillVery true! 😀 In going through my game stats to think of examples of this phenomenon, I realised there weren’t as many as I thought. It turns out that I actually like a lot more games proportionally than I thought I did, and the games I didn’t like were usually the wrong genre for me entirely. I’m fortunate to have three game groups per week, so I have the opportunity to try a lot of new, great games. There are many bad games, but also so many good ones!
@JJ_TheGreat
@JJ_TheGreat Күн бұрын
Nice loop, btw! 😀
@JJ_TheGreat
@JJ_TheGreat Күн бұрын
I really like this game... It is often compared with 7 Wonders, but I only lightly see that. I like this game better!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Күн бұрын
Me too! More straightforward, i think.
@mattjenkinscomic
@mattjenkinscomic 2 күн бұрын
Wow. Fun list! Just subscribed. We have a lot of overlap. I know this wasn’t a favorite games list, but I love marvel champions (have everything), dune imperium (all expansions), dune uprising, wingspan, Hive, Splendor. A few others you may enjoy are Heat, Root and Thunder road! Cheers from 🇺🇸
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 2 күн бұрын
Cool! Thanks for the support man!
@WinningHandPodcast
@WinningHandPodcast 4 күн бұрын
Sad to see you unload Marvel Champions!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 4 күн бұрын
I had some good times before it left 😌
@jean.phillipe
@jean.phillipe 4 күн бұрын
Magic the Gathering, its not a game. Its a CANCER.
@ZeIsAnEnemy
@ZeIsAnEnemy 22 сағат бұрын
It’s like to be sober for few years, then one shot and you get back to alcoholic life again.
@petarenev5266
@petarenev5266 5 күн бұрын
Have you heard of Commander cube?
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 5 күн бұрын
I have, can't say I've played it though. Sounds expensive to make haha! I'd try it though.
@adrenalinejunkie4788
@adrenalinejunkie4788 6 күн бұрын
Excellent idea for a list & episode. Most interesting. Love a good deck build. myself, too.
@adrenalinejunkie4788
@adrenalinejunkie4788 6 күн бұрын
Excellent idea for a list & episode. Most interesting.
@JJ_TheGreat
@JJ_TheGreat 7 күн бұрын
9:02 Splendor is probably one of my most played games, too!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 7 күн бұрын
Do you keep track of your plays? Personally, really like to reflect on what games get played and how often.
@JJ_TheGreat
@JJ_TheGreat 7 күн бұрын
​@@DiceonahillUnfortunately, I really don't have a formal tracking system - beyond adding a note on my phone which lists all the games I play during a year, along with the date I played and the name of the game.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 7 күн бұрын
I highly suggest you check out my vid on bg stats! It's seriously a game changer! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqWqko2LfKeShrcsi=U18n_n4i6h9VRmhz
@boeta9778
@boeta9778 9 күн бұрын
PNP?
@adrenalinejunkie4788
@adrenalinejunkie4788 9 күн бұрын
Nice work mate. Greetings from Perth.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 9 күн бұрын
Cool, I was born there. Over in Brissy now.
@adrenalinejunkie4788
@adrenalinejunkie4788 6 күн бұрын
@@Diceonahill Cheers buddy.
@BlueTorchWeddings
@BlueTorchWeddings 10 күн бұрын
I have a few but I'll mention one: Ready Set Bet. I love Ready Set Bet but the calculation of points after each round, slows the pacing down to a crawl. A ton of calculations and the distributing money to all the players was just way too slow with 6+ players
@allthingshalo9388
@allthingshalo9388 11 күн бұрын
Nice!
@allthingshalo9388
@allthingshalo9388 11 күн бұрын
Table top con was great!
@allthingshalo9388
@allthingshalo9388 11 күн бұрын
🎉🎉
@spencer2113
@spencer2113 12 күн бұрын
Great content, keep it up!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 12 күн бұрын
Thanks man! Really appreciated!
@sparkleglitch13
@sparkleglitch13 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout!!
@Dragfie
@Dragfie 13 күн бұрын
Got the name perfect! Thanks for the feature :D
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 13 күн бұрын
Haha thanks man, names are always hard!
@snowsamurai
@snowsamurai 16 күн бұрын
Good list man ! I like you explain the plays
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 16 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@benjaminl429
@benjaminl429 21 күн бұрын
Cosmic Encounter shines with the right players. We had a game a month or two back where one guy could have one with others, but decided to sabotage them at the last minute so he could taste victory alone... which then led to another guy almost winning, and me being slingshot from last place to winning the game due to a combination of my powers and others seeing my position as no threat. It's a great game with selfish people.
@yogibbear
@yogibbear 21 күн бұрын
Hostage Negotiator is really good, but yeah if you ignore the mitigation and live on RNG dice rolls then sure it'd be frustrating.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 21 күн бұрын
What midigation are you referring to? The 4 side allows you to discard for a success but you still have to roll it? Apart from rolling a 4, how else can i change the result? If I am missing something do let me know.
@robertthurman9866
@robertthurman9866 22 күн бұрын
I think having one overpowered faction in a game like this is a good thing. It can be given to a new player to even things out. It can be an AI player to compete alongside other players. Or it can just not be used for a group that is experienced. Having varied strengths in a game serves as a handicapping system. The better players get the weakest factions the newer weaker players get the stronger factions.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 22 күн бұрын
That's an interesting perspective. Personally I would prefer a way to handicap a player in some way if thats the case. The ability as it is now is static and can't be adjusted, unless house-ruling. What you are saying is valid though.
@Aurion254
@Aurion254 24 күн бұрын
My play group are in the middle of a gloomhaven campaign and we just did a scenario in which there are a lot of monsters and allies. Much of the game was spent going through the motions of the automated monster turns and it absolutely killed the experience for us. Each round was taking 45+mins and everyone was completely switched off by the time it came to their turn. Hasn't quite ruined it for us but definitely playing some shorter games at our next game night!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 24 күн бұрын
That sounds awful! Haha. Someone might have to cook up a house rule or something for that scenario.
@Aurion254
@Aurion254 24 күн бұрын
I often think about what ruins traditional board games and quite often it is down to one mechanism. For instance, Cluedo (or Clue for anyone in the US) is actually a great game at its core but the roll and move mechanism just ruined it for me as a child. The very fact that you could miss a turn to start a rumour just because you rolled poorly is such poor design. I know a lot of people house-ruled it out but it really shouldn't have been there to begin with. Don't know whether it has changed in subsequent printings but my fix was that you don't use dice at all but could just move to adjacent rooms or use secret passageways.
@Aurion254
@Aurion254 24 күн бұрын
Tile tearing is real. I hate it and that's why i use a hobby knife when unboxing new games. Live and learn!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, this one is a bit on me. Although I do think the game would be overall better with plastic tiles or something. As over time, the wear and tear would create the same problem.
@tmcd5049
@tmcd5049 2 күн бұрын
​@@Diceonahill Frankly, you should have either taken it back to the shop or complained/ asked for replacements from the publisher.
@Aurion254
@Aurion254 24 күн бұрын
Nemesis allows a player who is eliminated to take control of the aliens, so I dont think its particularly a problem that there is player elimination. Its very rare that more than one player would be eliminated early on. From my experience, players are mindful that if other players are eliminated too early, nobody will survive, but I get that if you are playing with a particular crowd it could end up that way.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 24 күн бұрын
Yes, it is true that there is a variant that tackles that. So they at least have tried to address the problem.
@thetasigma1905
@thetasigma1905 25 күн бұрын
Just subscribed. As a fellow Australian, I hope your channel grows and does well. Love your content so far.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 25 күн бұрын
Thanks man! Really appreciate it!
@thetasigma1905
@thetasigma1905 25 күн бұрын
This is so true. I’m always green, unless green is not an option. Then l’m either orange or purple if they’re available. I once allowed a guest to play green and I just continuously moved or grabbed his pieces throughout the game, so now everyone knows when we play , house rule 😂, I’m always green.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 25 күн бұрын
Haha, yep! The pain is real! 😂
@davidhughes1843
@davidhughes1843 25 күн бұрын
This is the worst game I have owned and took a huge loss getting rid of the garbage
@nickmaldonado59
@nickmaldonado59 28 күн бұрын
For me, it’s ANKH… that mechanic where one team has to merge with another ruined an otherwise great game. I couldn’t find any sort of house rule that would circumvent this terrible catchup mechanic, it ticked off so many players.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, I imagine many people feel as you do. If you're interested, I have a vid on my channel discussing this very topic.
@Toxic_minions
@Toxic_minions 29 күн бұрын
Looks fun!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill 29 күн бұрын
It's a great game!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
1K views!!! Thanks guys you are awesome!
@sirguy6678
@sirguy6678 Ай бұрын
Fun video! It’s interesting to see a “truthful opinion” about some of these games which the fan boys are constantly foaming over! Too many people don’t want to admit they just spent $100 on a game they will only play once..
@robertthurman9866
@robertthurman9866 Ай бұрын
A very fun video.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
@jimalexander687
@jimalexander687 Ай бұрын
I really enjoy "Smash Up", but I agree that constantly counting damage on each base was annoying -- which I why I use cubes. Each player has cubes in his/her own color to signify how many of the damage points are theirs on each base. I also have base boards (which came with one of the expansions, I don't remember which -- perhaps one of the "big boxes"), on which you place your bases in play, each which has a number track around the edge on which to place a counter. Either is an easy fix to this problem if you otherwise enjoy the game.
@allthingshalo9388
@allthingshalo9388 Ай бұрын
Sweet video, dude!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Thanks friend!
@diamondmeeple
@diamondmeeple Ай бұрын
My first thought: Why Skull? And then it was the cardboard, puh! 🙂
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Yeah, this one is more of production problem rather than mechanical. When making the video it was originally titled 'Games ruined by one thing'. So I may have to revert back due to this entry.
@brianthomson3095
@brianthomson3095 Ай бұрын
Great idea for a list and a good list (thanks for the warnings). It would be nice if you could recommend a house rule to potentially fix each issue, or perhaps it's broken beyond any hope. Thanks. The "Skull" entry is not limited to that game. Any game with punch boards can suffer from this. But, not all tokens are hidden in the game, and therefore not as much of a concern. Two things I do to mitigate the tearing is: punch them out back-to-front, and punch them out slowly. I have torn a few tokens, and as long as the torn piece is in good shape, you can carefully glue it on. Might not work perfectly for a hidden token though, such as in "Skull".
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Yeah that is a good idea! If I revisit the topic I'll consider that.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
And yes, the tokens with skull. I bought it to play with my niece and nephew. They were keen so we unboxed it together. So arguably my fault haha. Though, cardboard wears over time so eventually there are going to be nicks. I guess I felt plastic would have been a better choice.
@Manigo1743
@Manigo1743 Ай бұрын
Thanks for warning me never to play this garbage game.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Personally I dont think it's garbage. I hope it didnt come across this way. The particular mechanism in question I wasn't sure about (still not sure about). But if what I described was a total turn-off I'm glad I saved you the time and potential bad experience! 😀
@powertothemeeple1410
@powertothemeeple1410 Ай бұрын
nice video, interesting topic, i don't believe there is a perfect game, even after many play testing, there will always be flaws; i guess it is how much the game appeals to you and if you are weighting the fun over the flaws; and i just subscribed to your channel :)
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Thanks for the support :)
@SonoftheMustardTiger
@SonoftheMustardTiger Ай бұрын
Nice video!
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Thanks my friend!
@Domineas
@Domineas Ай бұрын
I would encourage you going forward to separate objective truth from your opinion. A game is rarely "ruined" by a mechanic. Declaring that a game mechanic "ruins" a game is simply invalid. You have no idea what that designer intended, the playtesting involving to arrive at the design decision, or why that design decision was made. It is valid to say, "This mechanic ruined my play experience, and here is why," which is what I think you're attempting to do here. As they say, there is no accounting for taste. You are entitled to your subjective opinions. However declaring that a game is "ruined" as an objective truth due to something that you disagree with, I find to be a bit arrogant. Also, full disclaimer I am a game designer and this popped up on my feed. I've only watched the first minute or so, so in the event my game is on your list I absolutely do not take offense and am not commenting on my game specifically. Designers spend hundred and sometimes thousands of hours playtesting games with hundreds of different people over the course of years. Most of us do it out of love. Please have respect for that process.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Thanks for that feedback. I'll keep that in mind for future.
@simonanderson4858
@simonanderson4858 Ай бұрын
I think it's implied it's just his opinion. He appeals to personal experience at the very beginning of the video and says so explicitly in the first minute.
@Aurion254
@Aurion254 24 күн бұрын
@domineas Only watched a minute or so? So you would have seen the disclaimer that this is an opinion video. I don't think he could have been clearer that these were his own experiences. I get that a lot of time and effort goes into making a game but that doesn't mean individuals aren't going to have bad experiences from time to time from a rare set of circumstances and that can 'ruin' a game for them. I think you need to revisit the meaning of the word objectivity. Objectively, he played these games and had a bad experience and has relayed to us what ruined it for him. His experiences may have been influenced by his own subjective biases, but objectively he has a bad time because of these things. It might not be what the designer intended or even came up in playtesting but it doesn't stop the fact that it is what he experienced. I don't think that's arrogant at all, how is he supposed to know what the designer intended by a certain mechanic if that's not what it did for him?
@Noahineer
@Noahineer Ай бұрын
TOP 10 Board Games RUINED by a experience or my own perception. Not by a Mechanism
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
I hear you, but the games mechanics lead to my misenjoyment. There is only one that'd I'd argue isnt really about a mechanism. But hey, this is just my opinion, doesnt mean these games are objectively bad.
@PMMagro
@PMMagro Ай бұрын
That is way more common yes. But when the mechanism is the issue it is harder to workaround...
@allthingshalo9388
@allthingshalo9388 Ай бұрын
Lets go!
@DavidH-ll7hx
@DavidH-ll7hx Ай бұрын
The bass is a bit much on the mic and it sounds less clear then your previous one. Potentially could be clearer if it were closer to your neck (at least that's what i find from lapel mic's). What was your previous mic and what is this one if you don't mind me asking?
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Previously it was just from the Samsung phone no extras. It was ok but when recording from a bit of a distance I noticed it didnt sound great. I'll fiddle around with it but I think the problem is that it's cheapie from Amazon haha. Might have to invest in a better one eventually.
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Hello! Using a new mic! Honest feedback on the sound quality is appreciated!
@lulubest89
@lulubest89 Ай бұрын
I think we should talk about old maid lol
@Diceonahill
@Diceonahill Ай бұрын
Haha email the story in!