Conspiracies At Sea by J.Kent Layton. - Discusses both Churchill and the Second Explosion.
@mcmxli-by1tj4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a magnificent work of art. And well integrated into the book.
@TheKulu427 жыл бұрын
There is a chance that what the British were covering up the fact they had blundered when it came to protecting the Lusitania. Churchill was busy with the floundering Gallipoli campaign and the Royal Navy was having problems. A confusion of orders, lack of orders, and everyone thinking somebody else would take care of it led to the liner not getting a proper escort.
@gwyneth78126 жыл бұрын
The Juno was on it's way to protect the Lusitania but was recalled, that's more than a blunder. I have heard that the final communications between the captain and the admiralty are still classified - after 100 years. That should not be necessary or allowed. I have also heard that king George asked the American ambassador what the US might do if the Lusitania were sunk, just a few days prior to the sinking. I really think you are being too kind!
@TheKulu426 жыл бұрын
Oh, don't worry. I'm not being kind to the Churchill and his cronies. Letting a national symbol like Lusitania go unguarded was downright criminal ineptitude. And I blame Wilson's administration for not insisting on knowing how this could have been allowed to happen. One problem I have is how the conspirators could be sure a U-boat would be able to torpedo the liner. If the U-boat had been a little further away or the liner going a bit faster and not making that turn allowing a shot, the Germans couldn't have caught up with her.
@gwyneth78126 жыл бұрын
Good and yes all perfectly placed, which is why, I think, the final communications between the admiralty and captain are still classified!
@TheKulu426 жыл бұрын
But how could they count on the U-Boat captain being so obliging? I think the British and their supporters in America, however, were certainly ready to act if a "suitable" torpedoing took place. I'm more inclined to go with the "little cover up" theory.
@gwyneth78126 жыл бұрын
From the research i did a couple of years ago around the centenery (my grt grandfather died on the ship) the background was that The Lusitania was registered with the germans as a naval vessel (something to do with a loan agreement made by the government prior I think), so it was on the 'hit list'. In the past Germans had been warning and allowing people to get off the boats before they sank them. However Churchill was blocking german ports and food deliveries to starve them and also ordered all captains ram any Uboats on site. So effectively prohibiting the German humane behaviour. I know this does not respond to your point adequately, but the other point was King George asking the US ambassador what America might do if the Lusitania were sunk. Churchill seems to brag about the benefits of a few dying babies substituted for 100's of 1000 men in his book afterwards. I know you could dispute this as just a film but it seemed to bring in a lot of the facts that I found out online kzbin.info/www/bejne/foXTnZx7hNN0q5Y . Churchills statement at 5.14 is an actual quote I understand. Then another point above was why are the final messages still classified? The final thing I remember is that the, admiralty wanted the wreck commissioner, Lord Mersey (also oversaw the Titanic enquiry) to blame the captain. Lord Mersey however resigned his post immediately afterwards, waived his fee and said to his sons years later that the Lusitania affair was' A damned dirty business'.
@MaxJack14157 жыл бұрын
I agree with that he needed the American's to have any chance of winning WW1 so by any means necessary to get them involved
@gwyneth78127 жыл бұрын
You can bet your bottom dollar that the Lusitania would not have sunk had Churchill's mother been on that ship during that crossing, put it that way.
@TheKulu426 жыл бұрын
Oh, but what irony is something like that had happened!
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