One note of errata: You misspoke about the Dimonds teachings, when you stated that they fall into the trap of conflating the teachings of Saints, Doctors, and Theologians with that of Tradition and Magisterium. They actually teach the exact opposite. Google their article on Geocentrism, Bellarmine, and BOD. Granted, it can sometimes appear that they do; but once you dive deep on their work, the careful distinction is frequently made. As an aside, for the record, this is in no way an indication that I am disciples of theirs. While I do believe that they are brilliant luminaries and brave defenders of the Truth; and have yet to find a single error in anything they have published which pertains to Faith and Morals; they do show a poignant lack of Wisdom and Prudence in other matters. For one, they censor their KZbin comments section by only permitting gushing rubber-stamping, and systematically deleting and "shadow" blocking any constructive criticism. I discovered this when I dared to challenge their advocacy for the reptilian demon who goes by the name of "Trump" in popular media. Not only did they delete my comments, and shadow block me from posting further comments (something which I needed to open an "incognito" window in my browser in order to realize), they also denied having done so when confronted. I could be wrong, of course; but all I know is my comments never saw the light of day. Other than that, their work has strengthened my Faith more in 2 years than a lifetime of "traditional catholic" poison. Lastly (because both words have been co-opted by the enemy), I tell people: I'm not "traditionalist", nor a "sedevacantist"; I'm an actual Catholic. Keep the Faith. James. ☧

Thanks again for your backup on that facebook volley with those heretics. Landed here from there. Pax.

Does Luke have a channel?? He mentioned a debate w Nick Santosusso? Would be interesting to see.

For three hours, while Ian was on the screen, I waited to hear the famous quote from Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, "Cantate Domino," 1441, ex cathedra: "The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jєωs or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of this ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only for those who abide in it do the Church's sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia produce eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and EVEN IF HE HAS SHED BLOOD in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church." Maybe someone should tell Ian that shedding blood gets you NOWHERE, if you are NOT a baptized member of The Church.

The visiting Angel at a persons impending death comes from the heretical Luisa Piccaretta

So as for the listener Question why cannot one be saved only with the water but no intention to be baptized. My answer I am not aware of any Catholic ever who tought that.

Here is something worth considering (it is not a personal attack on anyone): St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Second Part of the Second Part, Question 15, Article 1, Reply to Objection 3: To understand the truth is, in itself, beloved by all; and yet, accidentally it may be hateful to someone, in so far as a man is hindered thereby from having what he loves yet more. Article 3 of the same section: Wherefore lust gives rise to blindness of mind, which excludes almost entirely the knowledge of spiritual things, while dulness of sense arises from gluttony, which makes a man weak in regard to the same intelligible things. On the other hand, the contrary virtues, viz. abstinence and chastity, dispose man very much to the perfection of intellectual operation. Hence it is written (Daniel 1:17) that "to these children" on account of their abstinence and continency, "God gave knowledge and understanding in every book, and wisdom."

Even the thumbnail is false doctrine! Matthew 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. Matthew 3:13 ¶ Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Clarification: I did not intend to deny that BoB or BoD was Ordinary Magisterium. I was just trying to avoid discussing weather or not it was Magisterium. I did affirm that I believe the Council of Teaches BoD.

You mentioned the "age of reason" during this video, but I've noticed that this qualification is not given by the Church in many of her dogmatic statements. For example, Mystici Corporis Christi doesn't say "actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith [if above the age of reason]". Similarly, Unam Sanctam doesn't say "furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature [above the age of reason] be subject to the Roman Pontiff." What is your basis for assuming that this qualification applies in all cases when the Church only specifies "age of reason" in particular cases?

Pope St. Leo the Great Letter #16: To the Bishops of Sicily, Chapter 6: In cases of urgency other times are allowable for baptism Source: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, by Philip Schaff, D.D., LL.D, and Henry Wace, D. D., Second Series, Volume 12, 1895, p. 29 “Wherefore, as it is quite clear that these two seasons of which we have been speaking are the rightful ones for baptizing the chosen in Church, we admonish you, beloved, not to add other days to this observance. Because, although there are other festivals also to which much reverence is due in God's honour, yet we must rationally guard this principal and greatest sacrament as a deep mystery and not part of the ordinary routine: not, however, prohibiting the licence to succour those who are in danger by administering baptism to them at any time. For whilst we put off the vows of those who are not pressed by ill health and live in peaceful security to those two closely connected and cognate festivals, we do not at any time refuse this which is the only safeguard of true salvation to any one in peril of death, in the crisis of a siege, in the distress of persecution, in the terror of shipwreck.”

Absolute necessity of Sacramental Baptism taught by the Church does exclude salvation without Baptism, celebrated in water. Disagreements about BOD, or BOB of the theologians, lack of clear Papal statement about it points to no universal consent, and lack of Universal Ordinary Magisterium on the matter point to the fact that it's not Church teaching. I believe there is a misunderstanding regarding nature of the Christian martyrdom, and that those who shed a blood for the Christ are automatically incorporated into Mystical Body of Christ without water baptism, instead of them receiving crown of martyrdom in addition to robes of theirs already washed, and whitened in the Lamb's blood in prior sacrament of Baptism, in which supernatural virtues of Faith, Hope and Charity is infused into a person and allows him to go to a martyrdom: Pope Paul III, Council of Trent, Session 6, Chap. 7 on Justification, ex cathedra: “Justification … is not merely remission of sins, but also the sanctification and renewal of the interior man… Hence man through Jesus Christ, into whom he is ingrafted, receives in the said justification together with the remission of sins all these gifts infused at the same time: faith, hope and charity.” It's useful then to look for the Biblical parallels... look are house of bondage / sin: Egypt. Those who listened to Moses killed a lamb, and stained door frame with blood of that lamb, so the angel of death wouldn't enter and kill all the firstborn males in that house. Those who didn't listen to Moses: Had their family loosing their first born males. It wasn't sufficient to call yourself a Jew, and believe in God. Those firstborn males would die yet in house of bondage, they couldn't cross the red sea (parallel of the water baptism) and begin their pilgrimage to the promised land (that parallels New Jerusalem). I want to reiterate... those who were afraid, and stayed in Egypt, or just didn't follow Moses out of Egypt, and through the Red Sea -> They died in house of bondage. To even begin to walk towards the New Jerusalem - you need to cross waters, you need to wash your robes in Lamb's blood... and continue in bosom and unity of the Catholic Church just like those who followed Moses, and Joshua to Jerusalem. After Cantate Domino: " and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed his blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and the unity of the catholic church". I would weight in on "more glorious", or "less glorious"... this is beyond the point just to be honest. One that believes in Christ should look beyond that. It's surely very glorious to conquer Jerusalem from Saracens done by nobles, knights, and crusaders, for the Church - in human eyes... for many even much more glorious than to be martyred. How much more glorious is when Christ's merit is applied via Sacrament of Baptism to rescue a person from the darkness of sin... King of King's Himself breaking peoples chains of bondage, infusing them with Faith, Hope, Charity, cleaning them from all filth, and adopting them to his own family. Isn't that something most glorious, it's earth shattering? This is how glorious God is, and how generous for those who listen His words, and act it out. John 3:5.

St. Ambrose, De mysteriis, 390-391 A.D.: “You have read, therefore, that the three witnesses in Baptism are one: water, blood, and the spirit; and if you withdraw any one of these, the Sacrament of Baptism is not valid. For what is water without the cross of Christ? A common element without any sacramental effect. Nor on the other hand is there any mystery of regeneration without water: for ‘unless a man be born again of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.’ [John 3:5] Even a catechumen believes in the cross of the Lord Jesus, by which also he is signed; but, unless he be baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, he cannot receive the remission of sins nor be recipient of the gift of spiritual grace.”

Thank you again Alex for having me on to talk with you! Sorry I had to skip out early!

The Catechism of Council of Trent is actually quite clear on this: *Baptism Of Infants Should Not Be Delayed* The faithful are earnestly to be exhorted to take care that their children be brought to the church, as soon as it can be done with safety, to receive solemn Baptism. Since *infant children have no other means of salvation except Baptism*, we may easily understand how grievously those persons sin who permit them to remain without the grace of the Sacrament longer than necessity may require, particularly at an age so tender as to be exposed to numberless dangers of death. *Ordinarily They Are Not Baptized At Once* On adults, however, the Church has not been accustomed to confer the Sacrament of Baptism at once, but has ordained that it be deferred for a certain time. The delay is not attended with the same danger as in the case of infants, which we have already mentioned; *should any unforeseen accident make it impossible for adults to be washed in the salutary waters, their intention and determination to receive Baptism and their repentance for past sins, will avail them to grace and righteousness*. The Catechism is clearly contrasting adults with infants. Infants cannot be saved by desire since they are incapable of having that, but adults can. The second paragraph is therefore contrasting adults with infants who have no other means, which implies that the adults do have some other means (and it states what that looks like).

It's phenomenal, I think I need to listen to it more than once. This gives me a lot of clarity to what should I do in practical way. Also, to not be internally torn apart, but integral faith, and family man. I cannot blame my wife for everything... and seeing it from the fall perspective: I don't want to be like Adam, we should be so over it already with all the graces. Something I've experienced recently: It's vital that you actively look for your wife virtues, or even anything naturally good starting with her beauty, and compliment her... a lot. I cannot stress it enough, it makes all the difference. Don't become bitter in your marriage conflicts, do you hate yourself, love your wife. Please don't stop, and may God bless you.

Is the 1917 Code of Canon Law directed entirely to the whole Church in its entirety? No. Then it doesn't fulfil conditions for infallibility. Canon 1, 1917 Code of Canon Law: “Although in the Code of canon law the discipline of the Oriental Church is frequently referenced, nevertheless, this [Code] applies only to the Latin Church and does not bind the Oriental, unless it treats of things that, by their nature, apply to the Oriental.” Just by the very fact that not everything is binding all the Church: It cannot be infallible. It doesn't matter which parts. We can see clear errors going against the Infallible positions of Session 6 CH.4 of Council of Trent showing that John 3: 5 should be understood as it is written, and Can. 5 on the Sacrament of Baptism, so the Canon 1 of the 1917 Code of Canon Law providentially points to lack of universality in binding of the Code of Canon Law, so also cannot override the Universal and Extraordinary Magisterium, that should be considered as first before anything of lesser weight. Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi (# 66), June 29, 1943: “Certainly the loving Mother is spotless in the Sacraments, by which she gives birth to and nourishes her children; in the faith which she has always preserved inviolate; in her sacred laws IMPOSED UPON ALL; in the evangelical counsels which she recommends; in those heavenly gifts and extraordinary graces through which, with inexhaustible fecundity, she generates hosts of martyrs, virgins, and confessors.” Baptized, and unbelievers are lost, the same baptized, and in mortal, unremitted sin. Outside of the Church body there is no salvation, nor remission of sins - It's dogma. How to enter the Church, but by narrow gate? Necessity of baptism is very narrow gate, but it's even narrower when you encounter for maintaining true faith, and maintaining your baptismal robes clean. Rest is just an attempt to appear more palatable to unbelievers, and it's mark of unbelief in divine providence towards those people of good faith. Baptism of desire is a specific flavor of a justification by faith alone.

Since you believe that Mary is 'Co-Redemptrix', does that mean that you believe she is a redeemer along with Jesus?

MHFM has an excellent video covering this issue, the ‘17 code/bod.

Could you please post a link to the Justification Debate?

QUESTION: where do you go to receive Sacraments?? Are you a fan of the Dimond bros/MHFM???

Devil horns sign at 1:35:49.

At 1:46:42 the speaker claims that in the encyclical Orientalis Omenes Ecclesias Pius XII refers to Eastern schismatics as "Christians". This is false. The encyclical refers solely to the faithful of the Ruthenian Church, which was obviously in union with the Papacy . The encyclical is available to read online.

I recently found some interesting proof from the Holy Council of Trent which expresses that only those who have received the sacrament of baptism, belong to the household of the Faith. SESSION 14 CHAPTER 2 On the difference between the Sacrament of Penance and that of Baptism "For the rest, this sacrament is clearly seen to be different from baptism in many respects: for besides that it is very widely different indeed in matter and form, which constitute the essence of a sacrament, it is beyond doubt certain that the minister of baptism need not be a judge, seeing that the Church exercises judgment on no one who has not entered therein through the gate of baptism. For, what have I, saith the apostle, to do to judge them that are without? It is otherwise with those who are of the household of the faith, whom Christ our Lord has once, by the laver of baptism, made the members of His own body..."

The idea that God could resurrect people to Baptize them kind of makes this whole debate moot, because the BOD advocates can just say "well then everyone who desires Baptism will be resurrected and Baptized by God, or perhaps an Angel will come and Baptize them on their deathbed". Actually, this could be a great solution that both sides could agree to.

I'm a bit confused on the timeline that Living Echos presented. If the New Covenant and the requirement to be Baptized began at the Great Commission, then what does that mean for the Apostles? They were made priests of the New Covenant at the Last Supper, so it would seem that they must have been Baptized prior to that. But if the Old Covenant was still in effect, that would mean their Baptism didn't actually justify them, right? Did the effects of their Baptism get delayed until the Great Commission? And if the Old Covenant was still in effect, wouldn't this mean that anyone who wanted to be justified still had to follow the Old Covenant, even during those 3 years of Jesus preaching about a New Covenant?

Proverbs chapter 13 verses 12 and 19 make desire and hope synonymous and that is why Trent Session 6 chapters 6 and 7 uses the term hope. Proverbs 13:12, 19 Hope that is deferred afflicteth the soul: desire when it cometh is a tree of life. ... The desire that is accomplished, delighteth the soul: fools hate them that flee from evil things. Since dogmatic council cannot contradict themselves chapter 7 defines that both hope and the charity of Jesus on the cross in baptism together are mandatory. Chapter 7 proves chapter 4. Trent Session 6 chapter 7. 7. ...For faith, unless [HOPE AND CHARITY[ be added thereto, neither unites man perfectly with Christ, nor makes him a living member of His body. For which reason it is most truly said, that Faith without works is dead and profitless; and, In Christ Jesus neither circumcision, availeth anything, nor uncircumcision, but faith which worketh by [CHARITY]. This faith, Catechumen’s beg of the Church-agreeably to a tradition of the apostles-previously to the sacrament of Baptism; when they beg for the faith which bestows life everlasting, which, without [HOPE AND CHARITY], [supernatural] faith cannot bestow: YOU CANNOT HAVE A MARRIAGE [WITHOUT] A BRIDE [OR] A GROOM!!!!!

Thanks again for having me on! I did want to ask a few follow-up questions regarding some of the sources we discussed, for my own benefit and for anyone else who watches this. 1. You said at 29:10 that the Council of Trent mentions Mary as being the sole exception from all the decrees of the council, but I can only find this language in the 5th Session on Original Sin which states “it is not its intention to include in *this* decree, which deals with original sin, the blessed and immaculate Virgin Mary, the mother of God”. Is there anything like this in Session 6 on Justification, or were you extrapolating from this quote? 2. When you were talking about instrumental causes, were you referring to Sess 6 Ch 7 where it says “the instrumental cause is the sacrament of baptism, which is the sacrament of faith”? I noticed at 26:27 you said “Trent said there's one instrumental cause of justification”, so did you mean to say “Trent only lists one instrumental cause of justification”? 3. What is the exact quote from the Catechism of St Peter Canisius that you mentioned at 40:40 where he “positively excludes” BOD by saying there are no exceptions, while citing Sess 6 Ch 4? The only quote I found that includes a footnote to Sess 6 Ch 4 was “it is a sacrament, I say, that is necessary not only for adults but also for littles ones”. Is this the quote you were referring to, or was it a different one? Much appreciated!

Sedevacantism is the Supreme punishment from God when His people revolt from Him. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. What God did to Adam, he does at length with His people who revolt and disobey. Genesis 3:24 [And he cast out Adam]; and placed before the paradise of pleasure Cherubims, and a flaming sword, turning every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. When Solomon's Temple, which was the prototype of St. Peter's Basilica, was finished God gave a promise of a perpetual leader for His people and a warning about revolts for which He would take away the leader, land and the Temple. This applies to the NT Catholic Church. Carefully notice the conditional language of God! 2 Paralipomenon 7:16-20 For I have chosen, and have sanctified this place, that my name [may] be there for ever, and my eyes and my heart [may remain there perpetually]. And as for thee, if thou walk before me, as David thy father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded thee, and keep my justices and my judgments: I will raise up the throne of thy kingdom, as I promised to David thy father, saying: There shall not fail thee a man of thy stock to be ruler in Israel. But if you turn away, and forsake my justices, and my commandments which I have set before you, and shall go and serve strange gods, and adore them, [I will pluck you up by the root out of my land which I have given you: and this house which I have sanctified to my name, I will cast away from before my face], and will make it a byword, and an example among all nations. 3 Kings 9:5-7 I will establish the throne of thy kingdom over Israel for ever, as I promised David… There shall not fail a man of thy race upon the throne of Israel. But if you and your children revolting…[I will take away Israel…and the temple…I will cast out of my sight;] Not only is there a prophecy for the Office of the Papacy [keys and the power to bind and loose] but also a prophecy of Sedevacantism; God taking away the Pope, sacrifice and the temple. Its in Isaias, Daniel and Paul. The keys and the power to bind and loose and sedevacantism. Isaias 22-20-25 20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliacim the son of Helcias, And I will clothe him with thy robe, and will strengthen him with thy girdle, and will give thy power into his hand: and he shall be [as a father] to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the [house of Juda]. [And I will lay the key of the house of David upon his shoulder: and he shall open, and none shall shut: and he shall shut, and none shall open]. And I will fasten [him as a peg in a sure place], and he shall be for [a throne] of glory to the house of his father. And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his father's house, divers kinds of vessels, every little vessel, from the vessels of cups even to every instrument of music. [In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall the peg be removed, that was fastened in the sure place: and it shall be broken and shall fall: and that which hung thereon, shall perish, because the Lord hath spoken it]. Daniel 8:11-12 And it was magnified even to the prince of the strength: [and it took away from him the continual sacrifice, and cast down the place of his sanctuary]. And strength was given him against the continual sacrifice, [because of sins]: and truth shall be cast down on the ground, and he shall do and shall prosper. Daniel 9:26-27 And after sixty-two weeks Christ shall be slain: and the people that shall deny him shall not be his. And a people with their leader [Paul VI] that shall come, shall destroy the city [Rome] and the sanctuary [St. Peter's Basilica]: and the end thereof shall be waste, and after the end of the war the appointed desolation. And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fail: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation [false altar]: [and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end]. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-7 Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come [a revolt] first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, 4 Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God. 5 Remember you not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now you know what withholdeth, that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity already worketh; only that he who now holdeth, do hold, until he [Pius XII] be taken out of the way.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO DEBATE SEDEVACANTISM AS BEING THE CORRECT POSITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY??

@StBonaventureEnthusiast is a prime example of how BOD heretics operate.

BOD heretics like to cite Pope Pius IX regarding the theologians being part of the Magisterium but its very specific as to that point!!! The theologians must be of [constant and unanimous consent, all one and the same thing] on any particular doctrine of faith. Pope Pius IX and Pope Leo XIII are clear on this point. Pope Leo XIII also gives a warning about what they are unanimous on too! St. Augustine and St. Gregory Nazienzan oppose "baptism of desire" among others too! BOD heretics are such liars, they are protestants doing mental gymnastics. Lol! Pope Pius IX Tuas Libenter Dec. 21, 1863 We desire to reassure ourselves that they did not mean to limit the obligation, which strictly binds Catholic teachers and writers, to those things only which are proposed by the infallible judgement of the Church as dogmas of faith to be believed by everybody. In a like manner, We are convinced that it was not their intention to state that the perfect adherence to revealed truths (which they regard as absolutely necessary for true progress in science and for refuting errors) can be maintained, if the submission of faith is given only to those dogmas expressly defined by the Church. The reason for this is the following: even supposing that we are treating of that subjection which is to be made by an explicit act of divine faith, this must not be limited to those things which have been defined in the express decrees of the ecumenical councils or of the Roman Pontiffs of this See; but it must also be extended to those things which, through the ordinary teaching of the whole Church throughout the world, are proposed as divinely revealed and, as a result, by [UNIVERSAL AND CONSTANT CONSENT] of Catholic theologians are held to be matters of faith. Pope Leo XIII Providentissimus Deus - 1893 14. …His teaching, and that of other Holy Fathers, is taken up by the Council of the Vatican, which, in renewing the decree of Trent declares its “mind” to be this - that “in things of faith and morals, belonging to the building up of Christian doctrine, that is to be considered the true sense of Holy Scripture which has been held and is held by our Holy Mother the Church, whose place it is to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the Scriptures; and therefore that it is permitted to no one to interpret… against the unanimous agreement of the Fathers.”34 …Wherefore the first and dearest object of the Catholic commentator should be to interpret those passages which have received an authentic interpretation either from the sacred writers themselves, [UNDER THE INSPIRATION OF THE HOLY GHOST] (as in many places of the New Testament), or from the Church, [UNDER THE ASSISTANCE OF THE SAME HOLY GHOST], WHETHER BY HER SOLEMN JUDGEMENT OR HER ORDINARY AND UNIVERSAL MAGISTERIUM35 - to interpret these passages in that identical sense, and to prove, by all the resources of science, that sound hermeneutical laws admit of no other interpretation. …[The Holy Fathers] “to whom, after the Apostles, the Church owes its growth - who have planted, watered, built, governed, and cherished it,”39 the Holy Fathers, We say, are of supreme authority, [WHENEVER THEY ALL INTERPRET IN ONE AND THE SAME MANNER] any text of the Bible, as pertaining to the doctrine of faith or morals; for their [UNANIMITY] clearly evinces that such interpretation has come down from the Apostles as a matter of Catholic faith. … 19. The unshrinking defense of the Holy Scripture, however, does not require that we should equally uphold all the opinions which each of the Fathers or the more recent interpreters have put forth in explaining it; … Hence, in their interpretations, we must carefully note what they lay down as belonging to faith, or as intimately connected with faith - what they are unanimous in.

Another interesting quotation can be found in St. Gregory Nazianzen, who rejected salvation for the unbaptized: “If you were able to judge a man who intends to commit murder solely by his intention and without any act of murder, then you could likewise reckon as baptized one who desired baptism. But, since you cannot do the former, how can you do the latter? If you prefer, we will put it this way: If, in your opinion, desire has equal power with actual baptism, then make the same judgment in regard to glory. You would then be satisfied to desire glory, as though that longing itself were glory. Do you suffer any damage by not attaining the actual glory, as long as you have a desire for it? I cannot see it!” (Oration on Divine Light, XL, #23)

Just imagine the children of Israel seeing Pharaohs army coming after them and how much they DESIRED to be rescued [saved] from DEATH. God answered their DESIRE by providing a path thru water, the parting the Red Sea. Would their DESIRE be enough to save the children of Israel from Pharoah's army or must they take the action of going thru the water?? It was only by going thru the water that they were saved while simultaneously the water destroyed Pharoah's army which obviously represented the devil. Why do BOD heretics persist in their lies??? 1 Corinthians 10:2 And all in Moses were baptized, in the cloud, and in the sea: Exodus 14:19-31 And the angel of God, who went before the camp of Israel, removing, went behind them: and together with him the pillar of the cloud, leaving the forepart, Stood behind, between the Egyptians' camp and the camp of Israel: and it was a dark cloud, and enlightening the night, so that they could not come at one another all the night. And when Moses had stretched forth his hand over the sea, the Lord took it away by a strong and burning wind blowing all the night, and turned it into dry ground: and the water was divided. And the children of Israel went in through the midst of the sea dried up: for the water was as a wall on their right hand and on their left. And the Egyptians pursuing went in after them, and all Pharao's horses, his chariots and horsemen through the midst of the sea, And now the morning watch was come, and behold the Lord looking upon the Egyptian army through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, slew their host. And overthrew the wheels of the chariots, and they were carried into the deep. And the Egyptians said: Let us flee from Israel: for the Lord fighteth for them against us. And the Lord said to Moses: Stretch forth thy hand over the sea, that the waters may come again upon the Egyptians, upon their chariots and horsemen. And when Moses had stretched forth his hand towards the sea, it returned at the first break of day to the former place: and as the Egyptians were fleeing away, the waters came upon them, and the Lord shut them up in the middle of the waves. And the waters returned, and covered the chariots and the horsemen of all the army of Pharao, who had come into the sea after them, neither did there so much as one of them remain. But the children of Israel marched through the midst of the sea upon dry land, and the waters were to them as a wall on the right hand and on the left: And the Lord delivered Israel on that day out of the hands of the Egyptians. And they saw the Egyptians dead upon the sea shore, and the mighty hand that the Lord had used against them: …

Tractates on the Gospel of John (Augustine) Tractate 4 (John 1:19-33) 13. …It sometimes comes to pass that you see a catechumen who practises continence, bids farewell to the world, renounces all his possessions, distributing them to the poor; and although but a catechumen, instructed in the saving doctrine better, perhaps, than many of the faithful. It is to be feared regarding such an one that he may say to himself about holy baptism, whereby sins are remitted, What more shall I receive? Behold, I am better than this faithful man, and this - having in his mind those among the faithful who are either married, or who are perhaps ignorant, or who keep possession of their property, while he has given his to the poor - and considering himself better than those who have been already baptized, he deigns not to come to baptism, saying, Am I to receive what this man has, and this thinking of persons whom he despises, and, as it were, considers it an indignity to receive that which inferiors have received, because he appears to himself to be already better than they; and, nevertheless, all his sins are upon him, and without coming to saving baptism, wherein all sins are remitted, he cannot, with all his excellence, enter into the kingdom of heaven. Tractates on the Gospel of John (Augustine) Tractate 13 (John 3:22-29) 7. … To this end, however, our Lord Jesus Christ showed the way, as you have heard, brethren, lest any man, arrogating to himself that he has abundance of some particular grace, should disdain to be baptized with the baptism of the Lord. For whatever the catechumen's proficiency, he still carries the load of his iniquity: it is not forgiven him until he shall have come to baptism. Just as the people Israel were not rid of the Egyptians until they had come to the Red Sea, so no man is rid of the pressure of sins until he has come to the font of baptism. “His way [St. Ephrem] was divinely directed to the famous and saintly Bishop, Jacob [James] of Nisibis, to whom he told his story and by whom he was affectionately welcomed and admitted into the number of “Hearers,”-that is, Catechumens in the first stage of preparatory instruction.” Philip Schaff-Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers Series II, Vol. 13 Pg. 265 Ephesians 1:11-13 In whom we also are called by lot, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things according to the counsel of his will. That we may be unto the praise of his glory, we who before hoped in Christ: In whom you also, [AFTER YOU HAD HEARD THE WORK OF TRUTH] (the gospel of your salvation;) in whom also believing, you were signed with the holy Spirit of promise, [water baptism] St. Gregory Nazienzan Oration of Baptism 381 A.D. [Oration 40] 16. …As long as you are a Catechumen you are but in the porch of Religion; you must come inside, and cross the court, and observe the Holy Things, and look into the Holy of Holies, and be in company with the Trinity. … 22. But then, you say, is not God merciful, and since He knows our thoughts and searches out our desires, will He not take the desire of Baptism instead of Baptism? You are speaking in riddles, if what you mean is that because of God's mercy the unenlightened is enlightened in His sight; and he is within the kingdom of heaven who merely desires to attain to it, but refrains from doing that which pertains to the kingdom. I will, however, speak out boldly my opinion on these matters; and I think that all other sensible men will range themselves on my side. … 23. …And I look upon it as well from another point of view. If you judge the murderously disposed man by his will alone, apart from the act of murder, then you may reckon as baptized him who desired baptism apart from the reception of baptism. But if you cannot do the one how can you do the other? I cannot see it. Or, if you like, we will put it thus:- If desire in your opinion has equal power with actual baptism, then judge in the same way in regard to glory, and you may be content with longing for it, as if that were itself glory. And what harm is done you by your not attaining the actual glory, as long as you have the desire for it? 24. Therefore since you have heard these words, come forward to it, and be enlightened, and your faces shall not be ashamed through missing the Grace. Receive then the Enlightenment in due season, that darkness pursue you not, and catch you, and sever you from the Illumining. … 35. How shall this be? Remember always the parable, Luke 11:24 and so will you best and most perfectly help yourself. The unclean and malignant spirit is gone out of you, being chased by baptism. He will not submit to the expulsion, he will not resign himself to be houseless and homeless: He goes through waterless places, dry of the Divine Stream, and there he desires to abide. He wanders, seeking rest; he finds none. He lights on baptized souls, whose sins the font has washed away. He fears the water; he is choked with the cleansing, as the Legion were in the sea. Mark 5:13 Again he returns to the house whence he came out. He is shameless, he is contentious, he makes a fresh assault upon it, he makes a new attempt. If he finds that Christ has taken up His abode there, and has filled the place which he had vacated, he is driven back again, and goes off without success and has become an object of pity in his wandering state. …www.newadvent.org/fathers/310240.htm

THE [FAITH] MOVING GRACE AND THE PREPARATORY [WORKS] OF THE CATECHUMEN DO NOT JUSTIFY!! POPE PAUL III HAS CLEARLY AND DOGMATICALLY DEFINED THAT ASSENTING TO [FAITH] FOR WHICH THE CATECHUMEN BEGINS TO DESIRE/HOPE, WHICH CAUSES HIM TO DO THE PREPARATORY WORKS THAT PRECEDE WATER BAPTISM DOES NOT JUSTIFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Council of Trent Session 6 chapter 8. And whereas the Apostle saith, that man is justified by faith AND FREELY, those words are to be understood in that sense which the perpetual consent of the Catholic Church hath held and expressed; to wit, that we are therefore said to be justified by faith, because faith is the beginning of human salvation, the foundation, and the root of all Justification; without which it is impossible to please God, and to come unto the fellowship of His sons: but we are therefore said to be justified FREELY, BECAUSE THAT NONE OF THOSE THINGS WHICH PRECEDE JUSTIFICATION-WHETHER FAITH OR WORKS-MERIT THE GRACE ITSELF OF JUSTIFICATION. For, if it be a grace, it is not now by works, otherwise, as the same Apostle says, grace is no more grace. THE GRACE THAT JUSTIFIES IS NOT MOVING GRACE [FAITH], ITS SANCTIFYING GRACE THAT JUSTIFIES! Council of Trent Session 6 ch. 7. 7. This disposition [desire/hope], or preparation, is followed by Justification itself, which is not remission of sins merely, [BUT ALSO THE SANCTIFICATION AND RENEWAL OF THE INWARD MAN], through the voluntary reception of the grace, and of the gifts, whereby man of unjust becomes just, and of an enemy a friend, that so he may be an heir according to hope of life everlasting. Of this Justification the causes are these: the final cause indeed is the glory of God and of Jesus Christ, and life everlasting; while the efficient cause is a merciful God [WHO WASHES AND SANCTIFIES GRATUITOULSY] [SIGNING] AND ANOINTING WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF PROMISE, WHO IS THE PLEADGE OF OUR INHERITANCE. Council of Trent Session 6 chapter 10 On the increase of Justification received. Having, therefore, been thus justified, and made the friends and domestics of God, advancing from virtue to virtue, they are renewed, as the Apostle says, day by day; that is, by mortifying the members of their own flesh, and by presenting them as instruments of justice [UNTO SANCTIFICATION], they, through the observance of the commandments of God and of the Church, faith co-operating with good works, increase in that justice which they have received through the grace of Christ, and are still further justified, as it is written; He that is just, let him be justified still; and again, Be not afraid to be justified even to death; and also, Do you see that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. And this increase of justification holy Church begs, when she prays, “Give unto us, O Lord, increase of faith, hope, and charity.” Titus 3:4-8 But when the goodness and kindness [CHARITY] of God our Saviour appeared: Not by the works of justice, which we have done, but according to his mercy, [he saved us, by the laver of regeneration, and renovation of the Holy Ghost]; Whom he hath poured forth upon us abundantly, through Jesus Christ our Saviour: That, being justified by his grace, [we may be heirs], according to hope of life everlasting. It is a faithful saying: and these things I will have thee affirm constantly: that they, who believe in God, [MAY BE CAREFUL TO EXCEL IN GOOD WORKS. THESE THINGS ARE GOOD AND PROFITABLE UNTO MEN.

GALATIANS WHOLE CHAPTER 3 PROVES THAT THE OT SAINTS NEEDED BAPTISM. CIRCUMCISION [OLD LAW] WAS A PROMISE TO SOMETHING ELSE. "And if you be Christ's, then are you the [seed of Abraham], heirs according to the promise."

I still want to know the answer to the question: “if Mary was saved via the New Covenant, what was the instrumental cause of her justification”? Regardless of whether the Council of Trent lists her as some sort of exception, this question still needs an answer.

Not everyone who is baptized, are of the elect. Many are called into the kingdom of heaven on earth [Catholic Church] but few are chosen for the kingdom of heaven that is in heaven. Matthew 20:16 So shall the last be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen. Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary Matt. 20 Ver. 16. Few chosen: only such as have not despised their caller, but followed and believed him; for men believed not, but of their own free will. S. Aug. l. i, ad Simplic. q. ii. B. - Hence the rejection of the Jews and of negligent Christians, and the conversion of strangers, who come and take their place, by a conversion both of faith and morals. On the part of God all are called. Mat. xi. 28. Come to me all, &c. In effect, many after their call, have attained to faith and justification; but few in comparison are elected to eternal glory, because the far greater part do not obey the call, but refuse to come, whilst many of those who come fall away again; and thus very few, in comparison with those that perish, will at the last day be selected for eternal glory. T. Old Testament example of few saved. Ecclesiasticus 16:11-12 He had not pity on them, destroying the whole nation that extolled themselves in their sins. So did he with the six hundred thousand footmen, who were gathered together in the hardness of their heart: and if one had been stiffnecked, it is a wonder if he had escaped unpunished: For mercy and wrath are with him. He is mighty to forgive, and to pour out indignation: Numbers 26:65 For the Lord had foretold that they should die in the wilderness. And none remained of them, but Caleb the son of Jephone, and Josue the son of Nun. [2 men only]

Wrong! When anyone speaks in opposition to the dogmas of the Catholic Church, they are outside the Catholic Church and heretics.

At the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965), Cushing played a vital role in drafting Nostrae Aetate, the document that officially absolved the Jews of deicide charge. His emotional comments during debates over the drafts were echoed in the final version: We must cast the Declaration on the Jews in a much more positive form, one not so timid, but much more loving ... For the sake of our common heritage we, the children of Abraham according to the spirit, must foster a special reverence and love for the children of Abraham according to the flesh. As children of Adam, they are our kin, as children of Abraham they are Christ's blood relatives. 2. So far as the guilt of Jews in the death of our Savior is concerned, the rejection of the Messiah by His own, is according to Scripture, a mystery-a mystery given us for our instruction, not for our self-exaltation ... We cannot sit in judgement on the one time leaders of Israel-God alone is their judge. Much less can we burden later generations of Jews with any burden of guilt for the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus, for the death of the Savior of the world, except that universal guilt in which we all have a part ... In clear and unmistakable language, we must deny, therefore, that the Jews are guilty of our Savior's death. We must condemn especially those who seek to justify, as Christian deeds, discrimination, hatred and even persecution of Jews ... 3. I ask myself, Venerable Brothers, whether we should not humbly acknowledge before the whole world that, toward their Jewish brethren, Christians have all too often not shown themselves as true Christians, as faithful followers of Christ. How many [Jews] have suffered in our own time? How many died because Christians were indifferent and kept silent? ... If in recent years, not many Christian voices were raised against those injustices, at least let ours now be heard in humility. Oesterreicher, pp. 197-198 Antipope Paul VI Nostrae Aetate October 28, 1965 4. …As Holy Scripture testifies, Jerusalem did not recognize the time of her visitation,(9) nor did the Jews in large number, accept the Gospel; indeed not a few opposed its spreading.(10) Nevertheless, God holds the Jews most dear for the sake of their Fathers; He does not repent of the gifts He makes or of the calls He issues-such is the witness of the Apostle.(11) In company with the Prophets and the same Apostle, the Church awaits that day, known to God alone, on which all peoples will address the Lord in a single voice and "serve him shoulder to shoulder" (Soph. 3:9).(12) Since the spiritual patrimony common to Christians and Jews is thus so great, this sacred synod wants to foster and recommend that mutual understanding and respect which is the fruit, above all, of biblical and theological studies as well as of fraternal dialogues. True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ;(13) still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. …

Brother Michael and Brother Peter of Most Holy Family Monastery are spot on and correct regarding the dogmas of the Catholic faith. There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. "Baptism of desire", "Baptism of blood" does not exist and invincible ignorance is perverted and misunderstood as to what Pius IX said.

Theologians are meaningless regarding God's truths and this is because its the pope who is the universal teacher of the Catholic Church! Its he that is infallible, not Saints, theologians and doctors. Popes defines God's truths. Pope Pius IX First Vatican Council Session 4 chapter 3. On the power and character of the primacy of the Roman pontiff 1. And so, supported by the clear witness of holy scripture, and adhering to the manifest and explicit decrees both of our predecessors the Roman pontiffs and of general councils, we promulgate anew the definition of the ecumenical council of Florence [49] , which must be believed by all faithful Christians, namely that the apostolic see and the Roman pontiff hold a world-wide primacy, and that the Roman pontiff is the successor of blessed Peter, the prince of the apostles, true vicar of Christ, [head of the whole church and father and teacher of all christian people]. To him, in blessed Peter, full power has been given by our lord Jesus Christ to tend, rule and govern the universal church. First Vatican Council Sess. 4 Chapter 4 Canons 7-8 7. This gift of truth and never-failing faith was therefore divinely conferred on Peter and his successors in this see so that they might discharge their exalted office for the salvation of all, and so that the whole flock of Christ might be kept away by them from the poisonous food of error and be nourished with the sustenance of heavenly doctrine. Thus the tendency to schism is removed and the whole church is preserved in unity, and, resting on its foundation, can stand firm against the gates of hell. 8. But since in this very age when the salutary [effectiveness] of the apostolic office is most especially needed, not a few are to be found who disparage its authority, we judge it absolutely necessary to affirm solemnly the prerogative which the only-begotten Son of God was pleased to attach to the supreme pastoral office.

Hey Seth, what can you say when the Holy Ghost clearly references water and the Word of God in making a [new creation] from the beginning in Genesis chapter 1. There is a transformation from the earth being void, empty and darkness to light and the creatures that come from the waters. Its all about light and life from water. Genesis 1:2-5, 20-21 [And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters. And God said: Be light made. And light was made]. And God saw the light that it was good; and he divided the light from the darkness. And he called the light [Day], and the darkness [Night]; and there was evening and morning one day. ...God also said: Let the waters bring forth the creeping creature having life, and the fowl that may fly over the earth under the firmament of heaven. And God created the great whales, and every living and moving creature, which the waters brought forth, according to their kinds, and every winged fowl according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. St. Paul makes a reference to water in Genesis in 1 Thessalonians 4:5-8. He is implicitly saying the children of the Day and of the light have received water baptism for which they receive, infused at once, the supernatural faith, hope and charity. 1 Thessalonians 5:5-8 For all you are the children of [light], and children of the [day]: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore, let us not sleep, as others do; but let us watch, and be sober. For they that sleep, sleep in the night; and they that are drunk, are drunk in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, having on the breastplate of [faith] and [charity], and for a helmet the [hope] of salvation. Ephesians 5:26-27 That he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life: That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish. Council of Trent Session 6 chapter 7. 7. ...For, although no one can be just, but he to whom the merits of the Passion of our Lord Jesus Christ are communicated, yet is this done in the said justification of the impious, when by the merit of that same most holy Passion, the charity of God is poured forth, by the Holy Spirit, in the hearts of those that are justified, and is inherent therein: whence, man, through Jesus Christ, in whom he is ingrafted, receives, in the said justification, together with the remission of sins, [all these (gifts) infused at once, faith, hope, and charity]. John 1:1-13 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. This man came for a witness, to give testimony of the light, that all men might believe through him. He was not the light, but was to give testimony of the light. That was the true light, which enlighteneth every man that cometh into this world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, he gave them power [faith] to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name. Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Pope St. Leo the Great, Sermo 12 de Passione A.D. 460 Through the birth of baptism an innumerable multitude of children of God are born, of whom it is said: [who were born not of blood, nor of the desire of the flesh, nor of the desire of man, but of God]. (PL 54, 355-357)

Seth, is pathetically all over the place. He runs from the dogmatic truth.

Pope Pius XII has reaffirmed the dogma of John 3:5 with his Apostolic Constitution in 1952. He says that all those who are not water baptism go to hell. Pope Pius XII Exsul Familia Nazarethana Apostolic Constitution - August 1,1952 5. When the priests are absent, what ruin for those who must leave this world either unbaptized or still chained by sin! What sadness for their friends, [who will not have them as companions in the repose of eternal life]! What grief for all, and whet blasphemy by some, due to the absence of the priest and of his ministry. 6. One can readily understand what the dread of passing evils can do, and what great eternal evil follows! On the other hand, when the priests are at their posts they help everyone with all the strength the Lord has given them. Some are baptized, others make their peace with God [confession]. None is deprived of receiving the Body of Christ in Communion; all are consoled, edified and urged to pray to God, Who can wand off all dangers! Therefore, having seriously considered the importance of this whole matter, and being impelled by the examples of Our Predecessors, and having given careful attention to the views of Adeodato G. Cardinal Piazza, Bishop of Sabina and Poggio Mirteto and Secretary of the Consistorial Congregation, we, hereby, do establish and prescribe all which is contained therein. We now decree that what we hereby establish shall not be subject to attack for any reason whatsoever, even though it be enacted without the consent of those who have or claim to have the right to express their opinion on this matter, or even if they were not consulted or their opinion was not accepted. Furthermore, we declare that what we, hereby, have stated shall possess and retain its force, its validity, and its effectiveness until such time as it shall have obtained its full results. Finally, we publicly state that all those who are expected or will be expected to benefit by it should do so by careful observance. We reject as null and void every contrary measure, regardless of who impudently proposes to do so, whether knowingly or through ignorance, and irrespective of what his authority may be. This Constitution shall remain valid, notwithstanding anything to the contrary, including any other Apostolic Con­stitutions or dispositions of the Roman Pontiffs, our predecessors, as mentioned above or other Acts, however worthy of special mention or calling for canonical derogation. No one, therefore, shall modify this text which expresses what we, hereby, establish, ordain, reject, direct, unite, admonish, forbid, command, and desire, nor shall anyone rashly oppose it. But if someone presume to do so, he should know that he will incur the wrath of the omnipotent God, and of His apostles Peter and Paul. Given at Castel Gandolfo, near Rome, on August 1, the feast of St. Peter in Chains, in 1952, the 14th year of our Pontificate. www.papalencyclicals.net/pius12/p12exsul.htm www.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/la/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_p-xii_apc_19520801_exsul-familia.html

Seth is anathametized at the 11:15 - 11:23 minute mark because he confounds the sacrament of baptism with the sacrament of Penance. A catechumen cannot have perfect Contrition but only attrition. ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF PENANCE CANON I.-If any one saith, that in the Catholic Church Penance is not truly and properly a sacrament, instituted by Christ our Lord for reconciling the faithful unto God, as often as they fall into sin after baptism; let him be anathema. CANON II.-If any one, confounding the sacraments, saith that baptism is itself the sacrament of Penance, as though these two Sacraments were not distinct, and that therefore Penance is not rightly called a second plank after shipwreck; let him be anathema.

Not everything in catechisms is infallible. Catechism of the Council of Trent page 7. ...Official documents have occasionally been issued by Popes to explain certain points of Catholic teaching to individuals, or to local Christian communities; whereas the Roman Catechism comprises practically the whole body of Christian doctrine, and is addressed to the whole Church. [Its teaching is not infallible; but it holds a place between approved catechisms and what is de fide]." www.catholicsociety.com/documents/Catechism_of_the_Council%20of_Trent.pdf

By the way, in St. Alphonsus' erroneous teaching on "baptism of desire" he teaches that the soul who died in "baptism of desire" did not receive the indelible mark on the soul. This should prove to the BOD heretics that fallible men can and do make mistakes. An error becomes a heresy, when a person is shown the truth of the error and they obstinately adhere to the error, its then that it is a heresy. God allows heresies to expose liars. St. Alphonsus even admits the liability of punishment is not removed. St. Alphonsus, Moral Theology, Volume V, Book 6, n. 96 “Baptism of blowing is perfect conversion to God through contrition or through the love of God above all things, with the explicit desire, or implicit desire of the true river of baptism whose place it supplies (iuxta Trid. Sess. 14, c. 4) with respect to the remission of the guilt, [BUT NOT WITH RESPECT TO THE CHARACTER TO BE IMPRINTED], nor with respect to the full liability of the punishment to be removed: it is called of blowing because it is made through the impulse of the Holy Spirit, who is called a blowing.”

As the flesh had to be marked by God in the Old Testament in circumcision to be a member of the Old Testament church and if you were not marked in the flesh, that soul was destroyed out of God's OT church. This is a prototype of the indelible mark of baptism on the souls in the New Testament and if there is no mark, then that soul is not a member and is not purchased by God because God's mark is not on that soul. God threatened death on Moses for not circumcising his second son which proves that without water baptism there is no First Justification but only death. Genesis 17:10, 14 This is my covenant which you shall observe, between me and you, and thy seed after thee: All the male kind of you shall be circumcised:The male, whose flesh of his foreskin shall not be circumcised, that soul shall be [destroyed out of his people]: because he hath broken my covenant. Exodus 4:24-26 And when he was in his journey, in the inn, the Lord met him [Moses], and would have killed him. Immediately Sephora took a very sharp stone, and circumcised the foreskin of her son, and touched his feet and said: A bloody spouse art thou to me. And he let him go after she had said A bloody spouse art thou to me, because of the circumcision. John 3:5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he [cannot enter into] the kingdom of God. Colossians 2:11-12 In whom also you are circumcised with circumcision not made by hand, in despoiling of the body of the flesh, but in the [circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism], in whom also you are risen again by the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him up from the dead. Galatians 3:26-29 For you are all the children of God by faith, in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ, have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. ****And if you be Christ's, then are you the seed of Abraham,**** heirs according to the promise. 1 Corinthians 6:20 For you are bought with a great price. Glorify and bear God in your body. Haydock’s Catholic bible commentary 1 Cor. 6 Ver. 13. &c. Meat for the belly. That is, meat is necessary for the support of nature, though this or that kind of meat be indifferent: and we ought to reflect, that God in a short time will destroy both the meats, and the appetite of eating, and the body shall shortly die, but it shall rise again. - Know you not that your bodies are the members of Christ . . . and the temple of the Holy Ghost. Man consists of soul and body; by baptism he is made a member of that same mystical body, the Church, of which Christ is the head: In baptism both the soul and body are consecrated to God: they are made the temple of the Holy Ghost, inasmuch as the spirit and grace of God inhabits in men, who are sanctified. Christ redeemed both our souls and bodies, both which he designs to sanctify, and to glorify hereafter in heaven; so that we must look upon both body and soul as belonging to Christ, and not as our own.