Hmm, 4-5 hours for a single image to hit 150-180 samples on that CPU sounds really slow. I'd expect that to take no more than 5 minutes. I suspect something odd is happening. Are you using all the cores that CPU has to offer? What resolution are you rendering at? And is there a chance that NURBs rendering is enabled (if so, it'll slow things down substantially). In my case, I can typically reach 4,000 samples in CPU mode in around 20 minutes, though it will depend on several factors. The only thing you need to do is set up a region render on a noisy area and let it sit until it looks good and see how many samples it shows in the real-time view. That's the exact process I use to determine how many samples to render to, regardless of the material.

@@WillGibbons I took mostly street light renderings with PC lenses (partially frosted and partially clear plastic) and rough painted exterior and with emissive materials for LEDs... and you're right, I use NURBs due to the close-up images are looks better in my settings (by the way, i'm not consider myself as an expert on keyshot but relatively i do good enough renders -with no post work-) the real issue begins with the lenses mostly, unless i set 40~50 on global illum., i can't get enough quality on my renders. And again due to all of these, i had to set the sample value at least 130-ish when i take renders with mixed glossed lenses. also i should mention that below 50 samples it'll be definitely fireflies. my usual settings are (3000x3000px - 600dpi - PNG - All CPU Cores - 128 Samples - 1,5 pixel blur - 40 Global Illum. - Interior Mode with Caustics - model with NURBs) also I explode polysurfaces on Rhino to dissect and regroup-rejoin-layered up surfaces by the material that i want to use. then i import them into the keyshot. sorry for the long answer, frankly i didn't expect that quick response :)

I appreciate the suggestion!

Is there an update available? If so, I'd recommend updating your software.

I'm sorry. I'm not 100% certain what the issue is on your end. It's not possible for me to know without seeing it for myself.

Unfortunately, not. Sorry for the inconvenience.

This probably comes down to a few things: 1. Not enough detail or imperfections 2. Overly simplified lighting 3. Your knowledge that it was indeed rendered These are not unique to stainless steel, but all materials and renderings. It's something that can take time to improve upon.

Glad it was helpful!

You can use Bloom in KeyShot. But if you want scintillation (something different than Bloom) you need to use a different software to do that in post, such as DaVinci Resolve or After Effects.

It could be. KeyShot's docking system hasn't ever been that great historically. May come down to the specific release and build (mac/windows) etc.

​@@WillGibbons I also sadly discovered, thanks to your tutorials, that Keyshot has this weird approach of importing the model into different model sets if not chgecking out all the boxes, even though you chose to import the model into a new model set. Weird logics behind this option.

Perhaps in the older version. I don't think it does this anymore.

@@WillGibbons It does now I am on 2023.1. And I need to go manually into the next unchecked window and scroll down and manually uncheck a few model sets. It is really kind of a different logic to this software, but its GPU render time is unbeatable so, I believe I need to get used to. Also if you don't mind, I can't find an export option where you can export only a specific model. Like in 3d max you select a model and click- Export selected or even Save selected and you end up with clean model not the whole scene. Sorry if I sound dumb:)

It depends on what industry you wish to work in. If you want to be an industrial designer who is hired by a company that makes hardgoods, then Solidworks or Autodesk Fusion would be ideal. If you want to do softgoods, then either Rhino or Marvellous or Clo3D would be appropriate. If you are not sure yet, but you want to create more visual effects and animations, then Blender would be good. Hope that helps!

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Glad to hear your comment. I think peoples' opinions of difficulty come from a reputation that's quite dated. There was a time when Blender's interface was less familiar and documentation was not easy to find.

Yes, 100%. And in those cases, I'd avoid relying on compositing to create your final image.

KeyShot? It's the sole focus of my business, so I see it as a business expense. If I didn't pay for KeyShot, I would have nothing to teach. KeyShot may cost about $1200/yr, but it earns me more than 100x that per year, so it's a worthy investment.

@WillGibbons cool, good for you. What business services you offer?

I hope it didn't come across as a brag, just trying to answer your question directly. IMO, if you earn more $ with something than you paid for it, it was a worthy investment. Currently, my income only comes from online course sales and consulting to other businesses.

haha, yeah. Cycles is a pretty nice render engine!

Keep at it! It may take time, but you'll get there eventually!

Appreciate the kind words!

Glad you liked it!

Thank you, very much!

Glad you liked it.

Welcome!

Actually, I don't believe it is the same. In the viewport, you're seeing NURBs data as rasterized graphics, but not ray traced. I can't say with 100% certainty since I haven't studied computer graphics in a broad sense. But the data is not undergoing any transformation to be displayed on screen as far as I know.

Sweet! Thanks for letting me know.

Thanks. I fully recognize that understanding the concepts from being in/around 3D modeling for years helps out tremendously.

Is it with the model I supplied for the tutorial, or some other model you're working with?

Appreciate it! Glad you found it helpful.

When splitting surfaces, you will get those moving apart with displacement. But there is a slider in the displacement settings that can reduce or increase those gaps you see when surfaces break apart.

What tutorial? This is what I made with my newly-learned skills... didn't follow a tutorial for the dog collar. That was like the final test.

Sweet! Thanks for letting me know. Cheers!

Thanks, that's really helpful.

@@WillGibbons if I open an example file of Maverick render there is a jewelry file of a ring that looks like a high end photo out of the box.

What would you recommend? Would love to hear what would wow you.

@ a Rolex watch, AirPods Max, something cool :)

@ AirPods Max , Rolex watch etc.

Not sure what to say. The algorithms for ray tracing in rendering tools are all pretty much the same. There are some minor differences such as default values, but in my experience, those who can light well in one tool can typically transfer their knowledge into another.

@ I did some ab testing with Maverick and keyshot with the same hdri maps. And keyshot does something strange to self reflections on gold materials. all GI ON with 64 passes etc. the self reflections don’t create any contrasting darker shades. Only washed up bright shades.

Step or STP. It's a common exchange format used by CAD tools that use NURBs modeling.

Not off the top of my head. I have seen a mixamo model import into KeyShot just fine with animation, but there's something that's probably off in Blender's export settings in order to preserve that animation. Short of suggesting all the options via trial and error, I don't think I have a good solution right now.

I've never used Blenderkit. I'm thinking you'd either need to export your scene as FBX (will probably need to re-create materials in KeyShot) or potentially try USD format which should bake the textures into the models.

Which method? Do you mean CPU vs GPU?

@@WillGibbons 3d modelling vs Texture vs Procedural..... I am trying the 3 different approaches and the texture seems to be the faster in my case using GPU