Power Accumulators (Part 5)
6:17
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Power Accumulators (Part 4)
4:44
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Power Accumulators (Part 3)
3:40
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Power Accumulators (Part 2)
2:55
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Power Accumulators (Part 1)
4:45
4 жыл бұрын
The Sit Down
3:04
4 жыл бұрын
Bryson DeChambeau's Swing Radius
4:49
The Piston
2:39
4 жыл бұрын
The Clock Alignment
1:33
4 жыл бұрын
Clubhead Lag
1:43
4 жыл бұрын
Golf Alignments
3:02
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Bryson DeChambeau golf swing
0:11
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Bobby Clampett Driver
0:16
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@sepetisionelatu5539
@sepetisionelatu5539 Ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@jayingram3326
@jayingram3326 2 ай бұрын
Do you have a thought on early extension.
@BandyBorehole
@BandyBorehole 2 ай бұрын
Lead deflection
@steveperry1344
@steveperry1344 6 ай бұрын
i've had the tgm book for over 50 years and always found it a tough read but your videos and others on youtube have really helped me understand it and i can get these ideas into my golf action. thnx.
@lawrencesargent1392
@lawrencesargent1392 9 ай бұрын
I was probably the last authorized instructor authorized by HOMER KELLEY. My question is do you know someone who can teach the entire book? I went to Joe Daniel's school once and it was the worst school imaginable. Hardly any of the book was taught in 10 days at a ridiculous price. Alex Sloan, my teacher taught the whole book in 7 days. All of the old guard are now gone and it seems like nobody in the world even knows how to teach the whole book. It's sad, the public does not know what it is missing. THE GOLFING MACHINE BY HOMER KELLEY. In my opinion the greatest contribution to golf instruction and the greatest contribution to golf.
@vinsonshinabery8632
@vinsonshinabery8632 Жыл бұрын
Mistake on explaining the marrying up of shaft and left arm. Stated the opposite of what you mean
@pauloverett8652
@pauloverett8652 Жыл бұрын
Seriously these are excellent for those of us who are interested in the "deep dive", or just can't help ourselves! Very nice videos thank you!
@Vee-Hive
@Vee-Hive Жыл бұрын
I really hope the lack of engagement on your channel doesn't demotivate you, bro. Your videos are great.
@robsaxepga
@robsaxepga Жыл бұрын
Doesn't the sit down occur largely from the straight line hand path from the top to the aiming point? As a reaction?
@robsaxepga
@robsaxepga Жыл бұрын
At 3:55 you say the 3rd PP is the only pressure point that touches the club. Doesn't the second pp touch the club? Maybe I'm misunderstood what you mean.
@BrianSoule
@BrianSoule 2 жыл бұрын
What is the effect of a flexible shaft vs a stiff one?
@ChiTherapie
@ChiTherapie 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought your book. Love it. Gonna use it for my new goals. I refer to it in my own video's :-)). Thanks for creating it
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck with your goals Rob!
@ChiTherapie
@ChiTherapie 2 жыл бұрын
And also the 101 lessons. Just Wonderful. Saved my game . Even as a +1 handicapper. Thank you
@ChiTherapie
@ChiTherapie 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwingEngineer 🥰🏌🏻‍♂️⛳️🙏🏻
@jackflash8756
@jackflash8756 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem with PP3 is that is doesn't match the physics. It is well known that the club shaft is in forward bend approaching impact therefore physics says there must be a net negative hand couple applied via the hands. Therefore, PP3 pressure in the direction you mention in the video at/through impact is inaccurate. What you are actually feeling is the PP3 pressure that you applied earlier in the golf swing (maybe around P6) because it takes time for that pressure force to get registered as a feel in your brain. In reality, there have been a few research articles using 'instrumented grips' which show the trail hand is actually being dragged into impact which means the force applied to the grip is directed away from the target and is in the opposite direction to what is shown in your video. It's unfortunate that Homer Kelley died before the technology was developed to measure forces/torques or the use of 'inverse dynamics'. If this information were available to him, I am sure he would have edited his book to take into account these scientific findings.
@rogerriff4676
@rogerriff4676 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation Anthony and I bought your book 3 days ago!
@topman6727
@topman6727 2 жыл бұрын
The human body is not a machine and never will perform like a machine....
@steveperry1344
@steveperry1344 6 ай бұрын
a metaphor?
@rickymetzenbomb7548
@rickymetzenbomb7548 3 ай бұрын
The machine part is that the closer you get to consistency, the closer you get to a machine and better golfer.
@rickc3291
@rickc3291 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for preparing these brief but powerful instructional videos of the power accumulators from TGM. The clear articulation and illustration of the complex descriptions contained in the book is quite an achievement. I have been searching for TGM instruction on KZbin since watching Be Better Golf episodes with Lee Dietrich and then stumbling upon Tom Tomasello’s old instructional videos on Lynn Blake’s channel. Thank you again!
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Rick, much appreciated
@johnnybravo9087
@johnnybravo9087 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. How does one time the release of this PA? Too soon and we throw the club head over the top, too late and we present a wide open face. Any tips on how to practice the proper timing?
@ciaran_keady
@ciaran_keady 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony - these are fantastically insightful videos, thanks
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Ciaran, much appreciated
@lumberjack7923
@lumberjack7923 3 жыл бұрын
NO CONFUSIO HERE !!!! ???????????
@TeddyCavachon
@TeddyCavachon 3 жыл бұрын
The lead arm in the golf swing acts like the primary lever arm of a Trebuchet. Connecting it to the chest creates a fulcrum which improves the mechanical efficiency of that lever. A wide outside the hands takeaway like Hogan’s uses the kinetic energy generated in the club head mass to pull lead arm ramrod straight which is critical for getting the club force to act on and hinge the wrists of both hands not the elbow of the lead arm. The club can be taken back with just lateral movement of the hips starting with forward press of weight flat onto front foot then releasing and rocking back until back foot is flat and outside of front foot is raised but back leg is still angled. The way the hands hold the club mass out in front of the body and the way that mass is connected at the heel of the club will cause the club head to swing in from the target line even if the golfer only moves laterally away from target with the forward press - release action as Hogan did. Hogan squared his back foot and anchored it to the ground with an extra spike in his shoe because he wanted his back leg and buttock to be twisted against the resistance of that square back foot, twisting the muscles of the rear leg like a torsion bar. This is concept described in the 1933 book “Down to Scratch” written by British golf instructor Abe Mitchel and likely read and incorporated by Hogan which recreating his swing after his 1948 car crash. Duplicating Hogan’s swing style made me realize that loading the hips as he did with his wide takeaway against the resistance of the back foot allowed him to very precisely control when and where in 3D space relative to his feet the club would cock the wrists and swing up with the path influenced by the angle of the toe relative to his hands and the twisting of the leg muscles was how he powered his downswing. Hogan’s hips pulled passive shoulders and arms down to the ball, something he illustrate in lessons now seen on KZbin. That dragging of shoulders by hips in the downswing tightly pins the lead arm he kept straight against the chest, loading it and preparing it to fly off the chest like he did off his car seat in that car crash. It is the explosion of the mass of the lead arm off the chest which is like the action of the lever arm of a Trebuchet firing. But instead of whipping a rock in a sling around the lever arm with dual pendulum action the massive lead in the golf swing swings down (accelerated by momentum of the hip turn and gravity) until the still grounded back foot and anchored front foot forces the hip rotation to become limited to 45° open, which creates a sensation that feels like the hips and shoulders hitting an invisible wall. It is that abrupt slowing down of hips and shoulders which cause the simultaneous whipping of the club head around the hands which arm also slowed thanks to the leverage of the bent an tucked in trail arm and the lead arm flying forcefully off the chest. It is the action of the lead arm flying off the chest which pulls the trail arm straight. Any muscular effort by the golf to push the left arm to target with the right arm will actually inhibit the acceleration of the lead arm mass as it releases in the Hogan style swing. The momentum of the mass of the lead arm flying off when hips stop combined with the acceleration of club head mass around the hands is more than sufficient to completely compress the golf ball to point its composition allows it to stay compressed on the club face. Assuming the swing force is sufficient to fully compress the ball the rate at which it decompresses and flies off the face will vary with the speed the club face is moving when it releases. As with the action of the lead arm flying off the chest the decompression and release of the ball will actually be more powerful if the club head is slowed down to trigger the release which is what I discovered the way Hogan oriented his wrists at impact with lead wrist maxed out in supination, flexion and ulnar deviation with extension pulled out of the trail wrist through impact. Two other golfers similarly squared and released the ball with different wrist positions but similar cause and effect of locking up the wrists as face squared to target triggering release of the ball off face just as the hips “hit the wall” and lead arm fired off the chest. Those other golfers where Moe Norman and trick shot artist Harry Frankenberg (aka Count Yogi) who like Hogan were renowned for hitting consistently straight shots a greater distance than their contemporaries using identical clubs and balls. It was said that the sound of impact was different and that I learned was due to the way stopping the club face by locking the wrists causes the ball to decompress off the face with more acceleration than from a club face sweeping through the ball and carrying it forward at 90+ mph as it decompresses. The power accumulation swing isn’t just stored in the club head it is also stored in the the mass of the body core and lead arm.
@TeddyCavachon
@TeddyCavachon 3 жыл бұрын
Life is a Cabaret and an efficient golf swing is a Trebuchet 😃
@johnmcgiv1
@johnmcgiv1 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Mac O’Grady’s system, very well set out and explained, but as you know one thought at a time or everything goes wrong.
@vintageclaret5547
@vintageclaret5547 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent description of all aspects and sequencing of the golf swing. Thoroughly enjoyed your series of explanations of the power sources.
@dj-flights7376
@dj-flights7376 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Question- where should we think about accelerating our hands to before starting to decelerate the hands along the path? The left pocket? Just above the ball? The left ribs? Deceleration seems extremely important in the golf swing, I believe it helps transfer energy into the club. Graphs show the hands reach their peak speed just before impact - but I think we need to imagine a different spot to make it work. The left pocket/ribs seems to work well, just wondering what other people think.
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
Hi DJ-Flights - You’re quite right, the hands do slow down prior to impact… but it’s not something I recommend you consciously manufacture. They slow down during the downswing due to something I discuss in my “Bryson DeChambeau’s Swing Radius” video - the conservation of angular momentum. In layman’s terms, as you start to uncock the left wrist during the downswing, your swing radius increases as the clubhead moves away from your body. This increase in radius causes the hands to slow down. You should resist this deceleration and feel as though you’re still accelerating the hands (and club) through the ball. If you were to consciously decelerate the hands during the downswing, you’d more than likely flip your wrists through impact, ruining your swing’s power and direction control.
@dj-flights7376
@dj-flights7376 3 жыл бұрын
These were great, thank you!
@lawrencesargent1392
@lawrencesargent1392 9 ай бұрын
I was probably the last authorized instructor authorized by HOMER KELLEY. My question is are there any other instructors who can teach the entire book to the public at a reasonable price? I went to Joe Daniel's school, the owner of the rights, and it was the worst school imaginable. For 10 days we barely learned anything in the book. Alex Sloan taught the whole book in 7 days at very good price. Now all the old guard are gone. It seems like nobody in the world knows how to teach the whole book. It's sad the public has no idea what they are missing. The greatest contribution to golf instruction, THE GOLFING MACHINE BY HOMER KELLEY.
@dj-flights7376
@dj-flights7376 9 ай бұрын
@@lawrencesargent1392 You should ask as a new comment, "TheSwingEngineer" might not see this question since it is a reply to my comment. Else I would recommend watching more of his videos. Also do a lot of trial and error at the range. Try different swing feelings that work for you.
@garybarnes3013
@garybarnes3013 4 ай бұрын
Lynn Blake , Marietta Golf Center, Marietta Ga , was an early instructor certified by Mr Kelly . Lynn still teaches
@TeddyCavachon
@TeddyCavachon 3 жыл бұрын
Loading a club shaft became a possibility in the 1930s when metal shafts came into used in a it is what led Byron Nelson to develop the now universally used dual plane swing. The challenge at the top of the backswing is dropping the hands down and forward anti-clockwise for viewed from the ball position while the club force is still pulling them up and forward clockwise. The solution to that dilemma is SIDE BEND. Twisting the spine to the right laterally as the club comes to the top will jerk it down in the opposite direction causing the shaft to bend. The challenge then is to find a way to keep the hands accelerating faster than the shoulders are turning. The solution is again side bend. If the golfer progressively increases the amount of side bend as the hands swing down they will stay progressively further ahead of the shoulders, maintaining the side bend. Because I have a longer than average torso and understand the physics I’m able to maintain the bend in the shaft past the point the hands reach the bottom if their swing arc and start up. I use an unconventional (for golf) downswing action but one used with a great deal of success and efficiency by construction workers who swing 10 pound sledge hammers and lumberjacks who swing 12 pound double bladed axes with laser precision to chop a V into a horizontal log at opposing 45° angles. One simply needs to arrange the club face in the grip so when the wrists lock down the face will be square to the the target and then chop down at the ball from to top at a 45° angle. BTW what is incorrect in the illustration of the shaft bend here is that the shaft in the downswing bends opposite the direction the toe of the club is pointing because the club head mass is attached to the shaft at the heel. It is only just before impact that wrist action rotates it into the target. The reason the club shaft will bow forward during the downswing is that in the downswing the first move is to laterally shift and rotate the hips to 45° open and they will get stuck there IF the back heel is kept on the ground. If the golfer uses a grip and right arm leverage that keeps the hands from swinging ahead freely when the hips stop at 45° open just as the shoulders being dragged open by the hips back parallel to target and hands also bring club shaft parallel and level with ground the combination of momentum and gravity now able to pull the club mass down will cause the shaft to bow down and forward IF THE HANDS SLOW DOWN. The hands will slow down if the golfer is not using side bend as described above to keep the hands accelerating faster than right shoulder and / or does not lift the back heel to free the hips and get hips, shoulders and hands all moving together again. While I was working to perfect the timing of my Count Yogi and Hogan inspired swing I snapped the heads off several irons and Drivers until I realized from watching Hogan’s back foot action I need to release the back foot just as the club was making contact with the ball to avoid the forward acceleration of the club head mass faster than the hands that occurs as the hands swing up ahead of lagging club head to the point of snapping the shaft at the hose. The cause and effect is that releasing the hips via the back heel allows the hands to catch back up with the club head mass. Ideally that catching up occurs while ball is compressing on the face and then abruptly snapping the wrists down and locking them triggers the explosive rebounding of the ball off the face. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaGVnqmhqrWcl8k
@chongbyun1641
@chongbyun1641 3 жыл бұрын
Good morning! This is Chong, MIAMI TGM instructor. Great Theory! "Garbage in--- Garbage out."
@jamess9728
@jamess9728 3 жыл бұрын
If done correctly with no ulnar deviation of the left wrist on the downswing,, it would seem there is also a power source coming from extension and flexion or throwing of the right wrist (per Jim Hardy's teachings). Did Mr. Kelly miss one?
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
Hi James, great question. This often comes up as missed “5th Power Accumulator”, but it’s not. Here’s why; - Power Accumulators are unique ways in which you can move the left arm and club (Primary and Secondary Lever Assemblies) - The 2nd and 3rd Power Accumulators account for the three planes of motion of the Secondary Lever Assembly (left wrist radial deviation/ulnar deviation, flexion/extension, and pronation/supination) - A 5th PA couldn’t include any of these motions, as they’re already accounted for. - So could you create right wrist extension/flexion, without moving the left wrist? - Yes, by moving the right forearm away from / towards the left arm - You can only perform this motion by bending/straightening the right elbow and decreasing the angle between the left arm and the shoulders - These are the 1st and 4th Power Accumulators. In summary, right wrist extension / flexion isn’t an independent motion - it only occurs when using the 1st/4th accumulators whilst maintaining an in-line Primary Lever Assembly (i.e. not flexing/extending the left wrist)
@jamess9728
@jamess9728 3 жыл бұрын
Let's say one doesn't have a left arm. Now the primary and secondary lever assembly is the right arm and club. You can still use #1 and #4 but seems to me this is inferior as there is no speed. Throwing the right wrist will supply that speed correctly as long as it's thrown horizontally ( no right wrist uncocking). Response?
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
Hi James, You can’t really apply hypotheticals like this to the Power Package concept. If you had no left arm, the right arm doesn’t become the Primary Lever Assembly… it’s just your right arm holding the club. You can’t use the 1st or 4th PA accumulators if you only have a right arm. The 1st PA isn’t simply “right arm bending and straightening”. It’s the muscular thrust of the trailing arm pushing the leading arm. The 4th PA is the pivoting body pushing the leading arm during the downswing. The rotating body can’t push the trail arm in the same way. Will flexing the right wrist during the downswing help your one-armed golfer generate clubhead speed? Sure. But a right-arm-only golfer’s swing mechanics have nothing to do with the Power Package concept… there’s no Triangle Assembly, no Lever Assemblies, no Power Accumulators - just a right arm and a club.
@jamess9728
@jamess9728 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos and responses. My point is this is exactly how golfers who bend over a little more and have a more rounded swing do it. They keep there upper right arm back during the first part of the downswing, rotate the body and throw the right forearm with subsequent right wrist flexion around their body as if the left arm wasn't there. But since it is there, they get it out of the way by collapsing it inward through impact so the right forearm and wrist can throw unimpeded in a circle as close to the original address shaft plane as possible. I know this isn't power package delivery the way Mr. Kelly described it but does seem to be a valid alternative way to power a golf club with accuracy and minimal shaft/face rotation.
@thatwilldonicely1314
@thatwilldonicely1314 3 жыл бұрын
that young scamp Isaac Newton has a lot to answer for.
@mrgenericbrand
@mrgenericbrand 3 жыл бұрын
Fred Funk walking behind him, stopping and thinking to himself, "Just hit the ball already, Bob. Damn."
@camelcase9225
@camelcase9225 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter the era, it's really just being able to keep your body in that pocket and deliver the club around you.
@thomasfraser9072
@thomasfraser9072 3 жыл бұрын
Bryson swing is not only a one plane swing; but a one pendulum swinger as well. He axes at his ball with his brute force. If he were to make the appropriate angle between his trail arm the club he would become a 2 pendulum swinger and would hit consistently further with more accuracy then ever before. Yes he is a great golfer: but even he could improve. Cheers
@tripprawlings9284
@tripprawlings9284 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Hadn’t seen this guy’s name since the 80’s.
@2400cc
@2400cc 3 жыл бұрын
OK, so I got that wrong... Still very intriguing story....
@2400cc
@2400cc 3 жыл бұрын
After his book came out "The Golfing Machine" he wasn't the same.... Now I'll have to look him up and see what happened to him since...
@johnkurtz7705
@johnkurtz7705 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't write that book. Homer Kelly did. Bobby was a proponent. Much was expected from him, he was a very good player
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Good swing.
@timbrennan6766
@timbrennan6766 3 жыл бұрын
I think I speak for all of us when I say "good ball, Bob"
@SethMacLeod95
@SethMacLeod95 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@nicholasschroeder3678
@nicholasschroeder3678 3 жыл бұрын
He was once the next big thing
@thomasfraser9072
@thomasfraser9072 3 жыл бұрын
I am a skeleton player of golf thanks to Gerry Hogan’s book which supports a lot if what the Golf MACHINE has stated as well. From now on I only will think of the push in golf and never the pull as this is the functions of our muscles which I do not want to feel any extra tension or imbalance in as I am swinging my golf club (a first class lever system for certain) At 73 I can now actually do the two pendulum golden golf swing with the utmost ease How? I only swing the triangle and let the 2nd pendulum of my hands wrists golf club naturally catch up. I allow my lower body levers to move laterally back on my backswing and laterally forwards on my downswing. I call this My Every thing Moves Golf Swing. It took a little re thinking; but this is how the professional players swing their club. Cheers
@SilverBro96
@SilverBro96 3 жыл бұрын
Sick move
@davidmcbride8906
@davidmcbride8906 3 жыл бұрын
He takes a rip at it
@frednegus7017
@frednegus7017 3 жыл бұрын
Paddle wheel motion and action. Converts linear motion into angular motion. Just the opposite of a camber. Cheers. FJN
@tiptopsaidhe
@tiptopsaidhe 3 жыл бұрын
The question that arises here is (in conjunction with the video on Bryson's swing), is Bryson taking advantage of the transfer power (the master accumulator)? And, if he isn't (which in theory at least, he is not), could he be hitting it further by employing it? Is this transfer power also the reason that Rory can hit it almost as far as Bryson without all the effort of Bryson?
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tiptopsaidhe, good hearing from you. You're quite right, Bryson doesn't utilise the Third Accumulator. As per 2-B-3-B in The Golfing Machine, Bryson has purposely 'zeroed out' this accumulator by holding his left arm and clubshaft in a straight line at address. In theory, Bryson could hit the ball further by introducing the Third Accumulator, but in practice it's such a fundamental change to his stroke, it would never be worth his while attempting to find out. And yes, I'd say it's certainly a contributing factor why other golfers such as Rory can hit it almost as far as Bryson without needed to be as physically strong. It would also be a contributing factor as to why other golfers *do* actually hit the ball further than him - look at Kyle Berkshire's swing videos for example. All the best - Antony
@tiptopsaidhe
@tiptopsaidhe 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwingEngineer If I could go further, I was watching the MORAD video of Mac O'Grady. Not sure if you've watched, but it seems his emphasis was solely on transfer power and trying not to go into ulnar deviation, but back to neutral then radial deviation (but an increased right side lateral bend). This would seem to favor an angled hinge, wouldn't it? Can there be "pure" transfer power with an angled hinging motion?
@tiptopsaidhe
@tiptopsaidhe 3 жыл бұрын
These explanations have been fantastic. Really great work on making it understandable, but more importantly....useful! I got up from this one, picked up the club, and was able to feel velocity power and transfer power in my hands, maybe for the first time. Not sure if you'll go on to the swivel, but that would be awesome. Light bulb moment. Thank you!
@MartialGolf
@MartialGolf 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! The golfing machine is a tough read for some us . It’s nice to have this summary
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
It's a tough read for *everyone* haha. Hope this helps clear things up!
@MartialGolf
@MartialGolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwingEngineer Thanks. Do you offer online lessons?
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
@@MartialGolf Unfortunately not, MartialGolf. I don't have the time for new students currently. I'll announce when that changes in the future. In the meantime, you're stuck with my books ;)
@YVG_namu
@YVG_namu 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward seeing part 5 soon
@jpamador3691
@jpamador3691 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the simple explanations to this awesome system!!
@TheNYgolfer
@TheNYgolfer 4 жыл бұрын
Good analogy. Here is my non scientific theory. Bryson sets up with the number 2 accumulator zeroed out so he establishes the maximum radius at setup. Other players that don't do that reach their maximum radius too, but do it during the swing , not at setup. Now, for discussion purposes , let's clone Bryson and call his clone John. John is identical in every way to Bryson. Hits the gym and is just as strong. John uses identical clubs to Bryson's. There is only one difference between the 2 when it comes to their golf swing. John does not zero out the number 2 accumulator at set up like Bryson does. John has a very noticeable angle between his right forearm and shaft. Now let's video both players swing , down the line, then view the video and stop it just after impact. Bryson and John both have the right forearm and shaft inline. John no longer has the angle he had at setup. Bryson and John look identical. Both now have the same radius from left shoulder to club. Look at any great player at impact. Regardless of how they setup at address, at impact they have the right forearm inline with the shaft and have reached the maximum radius allowable by their arm/shaft combination. So Bryson does not magically increase his swing radius because he zeros out the number 2 accumulator at setup. John reaches the identical radius where it counts, through impact. So what's the advantage to setting up one way or the other? Bryson vs John's way? John introduces a complexity into his swing that Bryson doesn't. John has to accomplish a clubshaft plane shift during his swing. Bryson does not. So Bryson's way (like Moe Norman's way) is simpler and easier to repeat. That's why Bryson does it. Bryson does not hit it farther because of that. He hits it on the sweet spot more often because of that so that makes it go farther more often, which increases his average driving distance. . His brute strength is definitely a factor . Bryson is 6'1" and 245 Lbs. Yet, surprisingly, his driving average in 2020 was only 8 yards longer than Rory's, who is 5'9" and 160 lbs. So how does little Rory do it? Bryson bombs it with brute strength to power the accumulators. Rory does it with rotational speed using centrifugal/centripetal force. Swinging vs hitting. "If strong , hit. If flexible , swing"- Homer Kelley
@TheSwingEngineer
@TheSwingEngineer 4 жыл бұрын
Hi NYgolfer - excellent write-up, thanks for posting! You’re missing an important point between Bryson and his clone ‘John’, but it’s not something I’ve covered in this video. If everything about them is identical at address, except Bryson sets up with his left wrist fully uncocked and John doesn’t, think about how close they’re standing to the ball. Bryson, with his outstretched arms and club, will stand further away from the ball at address than John. This creates an important difference between the swings at impact. You’re correct in saying at impact they both have the same radius between the left shoulder and club - but their swings don’t look identical at this point in time. They can’t because their balls are in different locations. To compensate for standing closer to the ball, John has to rotate his ribcage more anticlockwise at impact than Bryson does. This moves the left shoulder away from the ball and ensures John can still hit the ball with a fully uncocked (or near enough to it) left wrist. If John didn’t make this compensation, and was truly identical with Bryson at impact, he would miss the ball entirely, or at best hit it with the hosel / heel. (Compare Bryson’s driver swing with say Rory McIlroy’s - look at how much they’ve rotated their ribcages at impact to see this difference) In the introduction to this video, I’ve explained what I meant by ‘swing radius’. I’ve said “In this context, I mean the distance between the clubhead and left shoulder.” I’ve purposely said “in this context”, because the centre of the swing isn’t the left shoulder, if the left shoulder is rotating around the spine. With that in mind, let’s say the swing radius is more accurately described as the distance between the clubhead, and a spinal vertebrae between the shoulder blades. Compare this distance between Bryson and his clone John. Bryson’s swing radius will be larger than John’s. And as per the video, that will come with all the advantages / disadvantages that entails. *** As for the Bryson / Rory, brute strength / centrifugal-centripetal forces debate - I don’t agree with the binary distinctions. Rory has brute strength. Bryson absolutely utilises centrifugal forces. It’s not a one or the other. The stronger you are, the more musculature you can utilise, the greater you can harness centrifugal forces. All the best, Antony
@mariooo88
@mariooo88 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSwingEngineer Spot on Antony.
@robsaxepga
@robsaxepga 4 жыл бұрын
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@kevinvallance7976
@kevinvallance7976 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, thanks!