Doom On The Rise - Episode 12.3 - RUN AWAY!!!
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@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 Ай бұрын
Quai-guy the big guy!
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 Ай бұрын
Pretty fly for a Qui guy...
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
what was their store credit at Olegs?
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 Ай бұрын
I have no idea but they have a list of things they've sold to him for credit. Since he makes money off brokering items for them, he can offer any amount of credit.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
hmm my comment dissapeared
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I've noticed that over the years. Lots of people have lost comments. Just look at the view counts. The like to view ratio is normal 10-20:1 but I have several video in the last 100 that have fewer views than likes. KZbin is so fuckity.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
(35:00) i thought there had been plenty of clues that the bandits were tough, so think i would have waited with those. and when your DM(GM now?) puts other adventures in your path, some could also think it's because he actually know how tough the bandits are. looking forward to seeing how this will play out. :)
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 Ай бұрын
The first group had a player who had done KM several times so he was very interested in moving the story forward and knew that the bandits were the endgame of the first chapter. Unfortunately, they felt invincible, even after their first TPK so they didn't go in with a plan.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
ok so seems they sorted it out in the end, most of it anyway. i was really cringing here lol :)
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 Ай бұрын
Welcome to my world.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
also Leon just read out the loot from the mite wizard, but there were 2 of those and hence 2 rings, cloaks etc(2:52) keep track of your loot!! it hurts a loot whore(me) to think of what could be lost to negligence
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
they really need to pay more attention to loot, if its taken off one list, make damn sure it gets on another list!! maybe even with a note about where its from untill its identified!
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
not boots of elvenkind, boots of stealth(+5) of kressel(bandit), belegar would have taken it off his list because vinsid wanted them, i guess vinsid did not put them on his character because they were not yet identified(2:45)
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 Ай бұрын
Boots of Elvenkind are lame. It's a holdover from earlier editions where elves were the gods of everything, like in LotR. Mine also cover both skills, hide and mover silently.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
i could not have let the chance to get some cleric loot, pass me by, especially if i was jerome ;) sure getting the alliance done is important, but how much would that get delayed? and who knows if the cleric will move on when potentially all his minions are dead? then again i have always been and will always be a loot whore ;)
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
transpositioning the 30" mage with one of the mite's on the ground would be sweet
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 Ай бұрын
If he failed his save, yes.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
very different game than TOS 2
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
didnt Joseph catch that red dragon with a rope and grappling hook? or was that one of the times it got away?
@argentumtaibhsear621
@argentumtaibhsear621 Ай бұрын
Early on in the Embers game I think he did that to a white dragon. He later looked into a harpoon for doing that to the red dragon.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
(33:30) the shortbow dex had before he got Kressels bow, i believe was a masterwork shortbow(+2 str) from the Tasloi's?
@JohnFleming-m3i
@JohnFleming-m3i Ай бұрын
The tasloi had normal masterwork shortbows. Too weak for +2 and too poor.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
@@JohnFleming-m3i most of them had normal bows, im pretty sure a few of the higher levels had +2, and im 99% sure they gave Dex a +2
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
they also have kressels bow from the bandits, masterwork composite longbow(+3str) i believe, and i think they gave it to Dex(25:30)
@JohnFleming-m3i
@JohnFleming-m3i Ай бұрын
You're better at managing their equipment than they are, lol.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
@@JohnFleming-m3i im a loot whore at heart, always have been. also they play 2 weeks apart i think. i watch the videos right after each other. no good pc games atm ;) im an avid dnd fan, played adnd for years some 30 years ago. have missed it ever since, all the various PC dnd games ive played have been a poor substitute
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
41:30 i believe dex's armor on the token has been adjusted, and is 22 before the shield, would be weird to put an Ac on the token that is only when you have a 10 min shield activated, ill admit i could be wrong ;)
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
kressels bow i think was masterwork longbow(+3str) wich replaced dex's masterwork shortbow(+2str)(35:40) good thing he writes everything down :)
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
if the mushrooms are poisonous, could they hit them with their swords to get poison on them for the panthers?
@argentumtaibhsear621
@argentumtaibhsear621 Ай бұрын
As noted, the panthers are immune to the poison. That why they can charge through the mushrooms. The panthers avoided the ferns though...
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 Ай бұрын
@@argentumtaibhsear621 yeah that did dawn on me later in the video, did they try fire to if not kill them keep them down for the count? liken piling them up and using a flask of oil
@argentumtaibhsear621
@argentumtaibhsear621 Ай бұрын
@@flemminglarsen1199 Yeah, regeneration isn't overcome by fire. That's only trolls. Many things have regen. The trick is figuring out why affects their regen. They never did but I gave them a huge clue, Azuth as a mortal couldn't kill them with magic. Fire, acid, cold, electricity, sonic and even spellfire didn't stop them.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
they forgot to add a symbol for the haste they cast last time, it would still be active for start of this session
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, they are so good at following along, lol.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
can we move the barrels up top yes and nobody does
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 2 ай бұрын
Classic D&D gameplay. Many players assume that if an idea works, the DM won't allow it, so they think it's pointless to do all that work just to find out it won't help. Ultimately, without someone manning the walls, the barrels would never have tipped.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
dousing the walls ahead of time would likely also have been a good idea, depending on how much water they have access to, is there not a well at the tradepost? not easy to make soaked wood burn.
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 2 ай бұрын
That is true. Wells have a limited supply, though so we would need to figure out flow rates and whatnot. Way more work than I wanted. Not to mention, the wood dries in a few hours. They had yet to learn when the attack would come, just that there was a minimum amount of time before it was possible.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
@@taibhsear71 Also a day has 24 hours. so no reason for 2 to sleep at once, 8 hours sleep 16 hours guard duty would have had 2 guards at all times.
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 2 ай бұрын
@@flemminglarsen1199 For sure, but people often struggle to sleep when they are not tired. If nothing is going on, it makes sense, but they didn't have much warning, and I don't think they were worried about much more than having a warning, so they didn't get stabbed in their sleep.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
i have a feeling, that when Dex needs that bow, it will just be a shortbow, and not a masterwork composite shortbow(str+2) since no one specified thats what he needed to write down :)
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 2 ай бұрын
Dex is new and young, so he is learning the hard way. The other issue is that he did have it written down, just on his other character sheet. Another lesson: when you level up, add all your new stuff.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
dex was not prone, he just forgot to remove the symbol last time:) then again he also forgot to remove the dmg he took on the last hit last time so guess it evens out
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's part of the learning curve. Unless a fight results in death, I don't get too worried about resource management, especially in a teaching game. As he progresses, he'll need to pay closer attention. The kid gloves come off at 5th, and we go bare-knuckles at 10th. The first campaign is a struggle from beginning to end.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
2 TOS 1 episodes in here, im thinking they should be somewhere else?
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, there was an early mix-up in the playlists. I named them both ToS, lol.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
Having had a canoe since i was a kid so more than 40 years, i can tell you, that if you know what you are doing. You can from the back steer in any direction you want without switching sides :) you may still switch now and again for fatique, but its not needed. Heck i can make it go sideways, though ill admit that is not fast, looks funny, and requires some strength. Anyway, that did not have much to do with the game at hand, im enjoying it, listening to it, while i play other games, and alt tabbing to watch when it sounds like they are in trouble ;)
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 2 ай бұрын
Can and should are different. I'm not a professional, but I've canoed a bit and found it way easier.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
wtf are they intending to forcecage all of them? i think after force caging the first one for 26 rounds(he did say 26), i would have surrounded it so it could not hit everyone with its cone, count down the rounds. and when it got close to being released, buff up with greater haste, prayer, bless or whatever they can do and be ready for it when the cage popped. does not sound like a sound strategy to have it be released behind them at some point(and likely be pissed at them) when they are in another fight. the 52 hour ones sure but 26 rounds is not a long time
@argentumtaibhsear621
@argentumtaibhsear621 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the first is wall of force to contain it. I don't think he was expecting there to be so many party killing monsters in the cave. I'm not sure why... Everything else was a party killer, lol.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
the loot whore in me, would have had a hard time disintegrating a bulette, 1 nice armor lost :) would it be possible to imbue a bulette armor with say acid protection? and would that in turn actually protect the armor itself from stuff like ooze/pudding acid?
@argentumtaibhsear621
@argentumtaibhsear621 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, you can enchant it with acid resistance which would be really smart. In 30 years of playing, I've never had a player consider that. If they want acid resistance it's so they don't take damage, not their armour.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
@@argentumtaibhsear621 yeah i was thinking about the reflection shine on the bulette armor and how that would likely be lost if it was subjected to acid, wich would be sad indeed
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 2 ай бұрын
i thought big cats had to hit with both claws, to rake with the back claws. seems like they would be off balance trying to pull up the back legs when only holding on with 1 claw
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, rake and rend have different mechanics and if you watch a lot, you'll see me mix them up all the time. Rend doesn't require a grapple check or an attack, it's just extra damage if both claws hit. Rake is a grapple made when one claw hits and then an attack with the rear claws if they grab on. Out of game it's easy to see the difference but when you are running 3 or 4 different monsters, against a high level party, there are a lot of mistakes on both sides.
@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 2 ай бұрын
now they would make a good pet
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 2 ай бұрын
Josh had one in the Embers game as his animal companion for his ranger of Malar.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 3 ай бұрын
if the orcs can divine the eye after the party finds it, why are the orcs looking for it, cant they just divine where it is and go get it?
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 2 ай бұрын
At the moment, it's deep overground, and most spells can't detect it. One of their goals is to just hide it somewhere else deep underground. Once it's revealed to actually exist, there will be a much more concerted effort to find it. So far, there is no actual proof that it exists.
@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 3 ай бұрын
I was planning on doing drugs.... but after the helpful warning from the players... I will skip lol
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 3 ай бұрын
Lies!
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 4 ай бұрын
they should have tumbled out of the room, and gone downstairs, to avoid the stinking cloud
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 4 ай бұрын
or since stinking clouds sink and follow ground, used gust of wind to blow it down the stairs
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 4 ай бұрын
@@flemminglarsen1199 They did eventually do that.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 4 ай бұрын
no idea why they would not go back to town to get smallbrow geared, and who knows, maybe an extra staff for quai would not be bad ;) is it really the 500 gold stopping them? wasnt there also something about the wizard being able to move their spawn point if they got a foothold? such as the barracs they cleared
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, they are using the barracks as a spawn point. Smallbrow's issue is money. He's saving for a super awesome bow to use as his item familiar so he's trying not to waste money on other things until he gets it. He's been saving for it since he joined the game. Sadly, yes, 500 gp is what's holding them back. it was meant as a deterrent to them running back to the wizard's tower every night but now they have the mindset of not going back until they "need" to go back. It's easy for that mindset to take hold, which is why I set it up that way. The nature of the campaign lacks urgency so I need something else to keep them pushing on... I often use timers for campaigns, "get the thingy before the other guy does" like in the Embers game where they are trying to beat the orcs to the Evy of Gruumsh but I had no way of making a 600 years old ruin seem urgent, lol.
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 4 ай бұрын
11.1 seems to be missing, or was there a reload:)
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 4 ай бұрын
You are correct, sir. I put it in the Gangs of Myska playlist by accident and didn't notice. I fixed it, so it should show up in the playlist now but it might be at the top instead of the correct spot, lol.
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's after 19.1 now, lol. Shit happens. It's not the first fuck up, it won't be the last...
@flemminglarsen1199
@flemminglarsen1199 4 ай бұрын
is ready attack a 5e feature only? think the dragon swooped down and attacked quai 3 times, could he not have been ready to strike back?
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 4 ай бұрын
No that's not a 3e rule.
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 4 ай бұрын
Top knotch name but too many Ms, lol.
@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 4 ай бұрын
Glory to the bold that runs from the group.....
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 4 ай бұрын
Run cowards.
@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 5 ай бұрын
Books + Water = Winning
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 5 ай бұрын
I think you are confusing winning with losing.
@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 5 ай бұрын
Yea, the party really had no chance of winning that fight....
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 5 ай бұрын
True, but they could have played it smarter
@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 6 ай бұрын
There was a perfect point for Jerome to drop his pants and go, "No, it is a Full Moon!"
@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 6 ай бұрын
1 vs 4, this seems fine....
@linwooddawley8890
@linwooddawley8890 6 ай бұрын
Funny enough, we failed the same trap as well
@yungxanmuhammed
@yungxanmuhammed 6 ай бұрын
ニグロ
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 6 ай бұрын
I'm not black, just saying.
@yungxanmuhammed
@yungxanmuhammed 6 ай бұрын
زنجي
@yungxanmuhammed
@yungxanmuhammed 6 ай бұрын
Зв'язок по догляду?
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 6 ай бұрын
What is a care connection?
@yungxanmuhammed
@yungxanmuhammed 6 ай бұрын
继续努力
@goingleft3863
@goingleft3863 6 ай бұрын
I'll try.
@JohnFleming-m3i
@JohnFleming-m3i 8 ай бұрын
Eat the dragon! Eat the dragon! Eat the dragon! Eat the dragon!
@JohnFleming-m3i
@JohnFleming-m3i 8 ай бұрын
When all else fails, blame the orcs.
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 8 ай бұрын
Acid that doesn't affect bones...
@taibhsear71
@taibhsear71 8 ай бұрын
Death by beetle. How fitting.
@lyndsayfleming4846
@lyndsayfleming4846 8 ай бұрын
How many buckets did they have?
@lyndsayfleming4846
@lyndsayfleming4846 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully, they find it first.