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@nina-raedelong158
@nina-raedelong158 Күн бұрын
I see what you mean. I believe that Elaine's experiences were real, even when the scripture references were weak at best. Since the Bible doesn't talk about the dinosaurs, that doesn't mean that dinosaurs didn't exist. The Bible gives general descriptions of the occult, but it doesn't talk about astral projection. That doesn't mean astral projection doesn't exist.
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 Күн бұрын
There is also tge fact that demonized people can lie. And how could she know her experiences with astral projection were not demonic visions?
@VirginAngeljss
@VirginAngeljss 6 күн бұрын
What is a virgin I mean the noun?
@jjulesscott
@jjulesscott Ай бұрын
#KNOWYOURWORD
@jjulesscott
@jjulesscott Ай бұрын
EXACTLY..!!! I find that is the case with many that rise up from being involved in the occult that they speak from experiences not from scripture. Jesus told his disciples not to rejoice that demons are subject to you but that your name is written down in the lamb book of life Luke 10:20. Thank you for your perspective.
@redfritz3356
@redfritz3356 Ай бұрын
Acts 10:34-48 shows how Peter preached to the gentiles. Very effective, praise God!
@happy777abc
@happy777abc Ай бұрын
Werewolfs, witches, vampires are real.
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 Ай бұрын
I haven't seen them, but I am open to that idea. But RB's use of scripture to 'prove' it was unconvincing.
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 Ай бұрын
Btw, witches onviously exist and some are open about it.
@user-cs9lk4yl5m
@user-cs9lk4yl5m 2 ай бұрын
I cannot go around recruiting people to share my views but at the same time I think your observations should not discourage people who might be helped like I was.
@user-cs9lk4yl5m
@user-cs9lk4yl5m 2 ай бұрын
This book brought deliverance for a tortured daughter in my family ,so I don't care what anyone would say. Please keep your skepticim to yourself.
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink 2 ай бұрын
Do you think that means it is infallible, or that it is acceptable to get doctrinal ideas from demons or through demonized individuals?
@Greg-cq8wg
@Greg-cq8wg 2 ай бұрын
Working in spiritual warfare since the 80s,her books have been foundational in guiding me. No true Christian would bash a warrior of Christ......unless they were on the other side. Who are you going to heckle next oversea missonaries,Billy Graham,the apostle Paul. Your coven should be proud of you. If you were attacking Anton Levay,Aleistair Crowley I would clap,no you attack Christian.Are you related to Judas Iscariot?
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 2 ай бұрын
You should be more concerned about walking holy with the Lord. I made this video many years ago but I remember was careful not to 'bash' Rebecca Brown. I did not even summarize the PFO expose. But you accuse me of bashing and then you turn around and accuse me of being in a coven. I have never been in a coven. slandering people is a sin so you should be more concerned about not sending than accusing other people. As with my other Ministry and with my videos is somebody can point out something that I've taught that's not in line with the word of God or else if they want to point out some sin that I've actually committed they're free to do so. but don't go accusing me of things I didn't do. What kind of Christian falsely and publicly accuses another Christian they don't know of being a member of a coven? The idea that somebody is mature in Deliverance Ministry it doesn't see any problems with these books that doesn't really add up. There are some things she says that are found in other books on the topic of deliverance, but then she's getting supposed information about the spirit world from a woman is having demonic visions and experiences and passing them on as if they're true slapping Bible verses on them that are taking out a proper context to prop up what she's saying. That's the problem. When you do Deliverance Ministry do you interview the demons and ask them for Bible interpretations and information about the spirit realm and then go teach that information that you got from the demons to other Christians? Some of her ideas I've just seen in her books so I want to ask you a question. I read in her vessel of honor book in Indonesian translation so I'm not 100% sure what she actually wrote in English. she said that if somebody got a demon in their hand the only way to get the demon out of the hand was to anoint the hand and a ringing motion downward toward the fingers to get the demon out. Maybe the English is a bit different but I have a question for you do you think that the only way to get a demon out of somebody's hand is to anoint it with oil with a ringing motion downward towards the fingers?
@Greg-cq8wg
@Greg-cq8wg 2 ай бұрын
Totally disagree with what you are describing as a demon in the hand and it does not add up to me ,sounds nutty. I don't doubt that some of RB conclusions could not be contested as mistakes. Saying that after all these years of following deliverance ministry,I have not found anyone who does it the same. Personally,I think the Lord works through individuals differently just as each person is different. Dealing with demons is different every time plus every demon is different and without the discernment of the Holy Spirit your efforts are guessing. There's no need in communication with demons because they only lie. If you know your authority in Christ,they know you know and they leave on that authority. Everything. There is no rule book on deliverance....just obedience to the Holy Spirit and using your authority. The problem I run into weekly is you try to help people but they don't follow my instructions like I'm supposed to pray their problems away while they don't want to do the work. I still don't agree with your verbal abuse but do what you want,I'm not responsible for your judgements. Like I ended up telling a atheist last night,if you don't care where you go when you die,I'm not sweating it,your choice.God doesn't want anyone in hell,but he does honor their choice.
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 2 ай бұрын
​@@Greg-cq8wgI agree with most of what you just wrote. (Not the the part about telling the atheist you don't care where they're going.) I am skipping through video here that I made years ago and I'm not seeing anything that is verbally abusive toward Rebecca Brown so if you have something specific that I said that you take issue with just let me know what it is and I'll consider what you have to say. My concerns with the Rebecca Brown books are 1. if all the experiences that she reports having and conversations to reports having with 'Elaine' are true, (and researchers from a website called PFO for personal freedom Outreach did a bunch of interviews and investigation they claimed and that disputed her claims on a website that was available in the 1990s or early 2000s) then she is communicating ideas about the spirit realm that she got from interviews with a witch about her demonic experiences and demonic revelations of the spirit realm...backed up by out of context Bible verses. 2. Some of the stories make the demons seem really really powerful and make her seem like she's being bounced around like a tennis ball. honestly I can relate to this from stuff in my twenties with some of the people I was trying to help but I'm not going to write a book about it because I don't think that that's very inspirational or that it's going to help people get a lot of confidence and deliverance ministry. 3. A number of people I've talked or corresponded with who read these books have difficulty sleeping at night. Regarding the demon in the hand, if you have the vessel of Honor in the Master's service book you can look it up. In the Indonesian version there was a Jack Chick style cartoon-- probably not Jack Chick's--depicting ringing the demon out of the person's hand and the motion that you have to make with the oil. It had a caption that said you 'HARUS' i.e. must anoint the hand and ringing motion to get the demon out. That was a book I thumbed through and didn't read the whole thing but it looked like it had a lot of pictures and information about how to actually do witchcraft. the verse in I Corinthians 14 where Paul says he wanted them to be wise concerning that was just good but simple concerning evil comes to mind. The way she used verses about wicked versus evil beasts seems way too dependent on the wording of the King James version translation. I suspected that she might have been a King James onlyist. I wasn't convinced by our argument in these verses that these verses are talking about werewolves I think it was or maybe even vampires. And I'm actually open to the idea that there may be some demonized people who are werewolves or vampires or at least appear to be or various other monsters like were-tigers and flying head witchdoctor kuyang like some people claim to see in Indonesia, or the flying Swords of the Hindukaharingan Dayak people. But the late RBs use of scripture in these books still seems off to me.
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 2 ай бұрын
Points to add to this presentation is 1) the fact that NO MENTION OF THE CHURCH (except in the future tense - by Christ) occurs anywhere in the NT outside of writings of St. Paul and 2) Paul's "my gospel" (Rom. 1) and the gospel of grace became available only after Paul was apprehended and educated by the ASCENDED Christ, so it supersedes the gospel of the Kingdom delivered by Christ on earth. Mid-Acts. People who never advance beyond presentation of "Gospel of the Kingdom" (in the Gospels) STILL MUST go to Paul's writings to build a Biblical church structure/organization. So, what other errors will such teachers make.
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 2 ай бұрын
Paul preached the kingdom of God among the Gentiles. The mystery that Gentiles we're fellow heirs with Israel through Christ was revealed not only to Paul but also to Apostles and Prophets according to Paul's writings in Ephesians. We can read Christ's gospel in Luke 24 and elsewhere. Paul said if any man preach another gospel than what I preached to you let him be accursed and he did not accuse the 12 of preaching in accursed gospel.
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 2 ай бұрын
@@linkhudson9025 Interesting observations but I continue to hold that only from the risen Christ thru Paul (according to Paul) do we learn enough of the church for it to be begun. Even the Lamb of God prophesy by John the Baptist was not revealed until AFTER Jesus' messianic ministry culminated in His death by crucifixion. True that it's not much in the texts that has Paul opposing what the Apostles preached but that was because: 1) The God of grace and mercy extended the period of Kingdom preaching (to Jews only) right into the initial period after the ascension but His grace became exhausted with the stoning of Stephan. (helps to understand the fig tree parable that showed a second season was given by the owner of the tree) 2) " and he did not accuse the 12 of preaching in accursed gospel." True, Paul did not rebuke the 12 collectively but reading more scripture does reveal (in Galatians) that following the influence of the Judaizers earned Peter a strong rebuke in which Paul equated Peter's behavior as that of an hypocrite and a restatement of his newly revealed "my Gospel" by which we must be saved and that cannot be mixed with the Law of Moses. So, the gospel did change even though the "good" part did not, the method and end results did. We are SO BLESSED!
@andys208
@andys208 2 ай бұрын
Excellent
@dafni10565
@dafni10565 2 ай бұрын
If Rebecca Brown truly knew how cursed the Satanic Pentagram is, why did she put it on the cover of her book? Let that one marinate... If you bring it into your home , you now have a satanic pentagram in your home. That is really not good. You think she would know better. Especially after writing about cursed objects and doorways.
@dragoncomosaics9282
@dragoncomosaics9282 2 ай бұрын
Regarding witches activity today some answers could be found here (one of many videos as proof that what society told to U is a lie): Witches eating children? Now, the largest problem with this Rebecca Brown is that she advocate false Gospel even if she is right about such things as werewolves. That alone forces to be careful regarding her claims. Even so, those who can distinguish truth from lies probably would get many valuable information. To Rebecca Brown fans: Bad advise to say to Jesus Christ 'I tried' regarding Eternal Salvation. That is might right only to do during Bema Seat, as it concerns Eternal Rewards and not Eternal Salvation. There is no hope if it is not Free Grace but Lordship Salvation. Judas Iscariot had at least one big anointing and still appear both in the history of God and history of mankind, yet he never believed and end up in a bad place. Choose: Works or Grace. Bible state that if works+grace=no grace. Since U know not what future will bring U trusting Urself but calling it help from God if U reject Free Grace. And following Jesus Christ each day within the context of Lottery of Ur soul, life, and Eternity U call Good news? There is no Good news without 100 percent Eternal Salvation and Security. How Ur life would change if U truly know that U end up in Heaven? How Ur life would change if U truly know that U end up in Lake of Fire? Here is the Good News: Jesus Christ love U and died for Ur all sins (past, present and future) that U would be reconciled with God if U just believe that Jesus Christ died and rose from the dead according scriptures for U sinner. It is Free Gift so God expects that after U accept it then U act as He wants but it is up to U and once U have Eternal Life then U will never end up in Lake of Fire irrespective what U do or don't do. In other words, God give U Eternal Life (Hell Insurance) if U just believe and allow U to do what U want, and just face consequences for Ur bad actions in life. Should U submit Ur life for spreading of God Kingdom, be disciple of Jesus Christ? Yes, U should but not must for Eternal Salvation. Bad News: In case it is not enough to just believe (according mainstream christianity word 'believe' includes total, or at least almost total, obedience to God) once the Gospel but in reality it is as proponents of Lordship Salvation claim (discipleship is not should but must, saving faith and etc), then there is little or no hope for U sinner, as then U have to sacrifice everything each day, tremble, have no Eternal Security, just hope to be saved by Ur faith+good works+relationship with God, and it would be still considered Free Gift. Ask Urself honestly: Would U serve God willingly, obey, sacrifice, share Ur testimony, including intimate details, without 100 percent guarantees from God itself that U will never end up in a Lake of Fire no matter what U do or don't do? If not, make sure to get this 100 percent guarantee from God as soon as U can. In case U would have 100 percent guarantee from God that no matter what U will be in Heaven (because Jesus Christ done everything and U believe it, this simple Truth), would U obey Him, sacrifice everything (it is still a process and one day is not equal to another day) so other people will be saved or just live as U want? Would U do that only for Eternal Salvation of all Ur family members? Relatives, community? Or even for Eternal Salvation of many people in Ur city, country, continent, world? Remember and don't stop: Even falling into temptations and after that to huge willful sins week after week is not a reason for U to stop trusting God and give up on Him. Jesus Christ holy blood > all Ur sins. Think about this: So, let's say person try to serve God and then do something important for Kingdom of God, and instantly after that get many arrows from the devil and co, and then is tempted, fall in temptation, for instance fornication, and commit huge sin/s. After that he/she want to abandon everything what associates with God, as everything looks pointless and painful, but God bring this person back on good road, and even saying that he/she is a good and faithful servant when this person expects something like 'I spew U from my mouth', 'wicked servant I will send U to Hell' words. However, after this wonderful work of God and His redemption everything repeats to this person again, and that happening many weeks. It looks like cycle is never ending. Is this person is forgiven or not? Yes, forgiven. Which testimony have greater power to destroy kingdom of darkness? Testimonies like worst sinners sudden salvation and changed lifestyle because of Jesus Christ or testimonies of those that were saved by God, have relationship with God each day, good reputation among people, yet behind close doors can not control and do fornication or other huge sins, then are forgiven by God and fall again and again to this cycle, and this continue week after week? Who is bigger sinners requiring greater abundance of Grace from God? Let God use Ur testimony for Eternal Salvation, or at least restoration, of many. Regarding hardcore proponents of Lordship Salvation: To the hypocrites like Urself ofc Jesus Christ suffering, death and resurrection from the dead for Ur sins by just believing is cheap grace, as Ur works+Obedience (Hard Grace) > Jesus Christ work (Cheap Grace). U promoting 'Lottery gospel': works will not Save U, U need Saving Faith (calvinistic idea), believing is no enough without actions, U can't have any Eternal Security, Trust Jesus Christ and if U obey Him enough in particular space/time then U might be Saved and win 'Jackpot'. That is trusting Urself, no peace and great contradiction to real Gospel where Jesus Christ states that His yoke is easy and He will not cast anyone that will come to Him. Think this way. In case, U are wrong regarding Gospel, U now on Ur way to Lake of fire. If U would believe Free Grace once now then U still could live as U live now (Lordship Salvation) for God all Ur life (or then U do what U want because only fear of punishment now hold U back, and actually Ur love for God is dead?). In case, U are right what U believe then U play in Lottery and expect to be Saved in the end. Also might be useful: Baptism of Holy Spirit should be distinguished from Sealing with Holy Spirit (Eternal Salvation). Baptism of Holy Spirit could be obtained not only for children of God but also by His servants just by promise of God in Joel/Acts. U can get it now if U believe and ask. Ask God in Jesus Christ name, get it and Ur faith and Trust in God will be stronger. Holy Spirit can fill and refill believers many times but Baptism of Holy Spirit is just one event (tried to ask it again one time but the effect was not comparable to that of the first time). Give thanks to God in Jesus Christ name if U need to hear this.
@brianparrott2313
@brianparrott2313 3 ай бұрын
It's not simply being clergy, it's the act of cutting off redress and recourse avenues to the laity, circling the wagons and tossing folks out like some kind of self appointed bouncer of God's house. Phariseeism. Thought police. Censoring others points of view. Cult labeling. That's hardly a servant to all...more like Amos 8 🪓😡👍💯💯💯
@sheiladevisubramaniam7466
@sheiladevisubramaniam7466 3 ай бұрын
Shalom from Seremban Malaysia Pastor
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 3 ай бұрын
Syalom!
@hasturryan
@hasturryan 3 ай бұрын
it's technology, you guys
@vivienneduckitt3976
@vivienneduckitt3976 4 ай бұрын
James 4:7 - Therefore submit to God; deny evil, and it will flee from you.
@squirrel9424
@squirrel9424 5 ай бұрын
All of your explanation makes sense but I still believe there is a lot of deception going on with the so called nation of Israel especially since what we have learned about the Balfour Declaration with the Rothchild’s (Jesuits) who are some of the most wicked people on earth who began running off and killing as many inhabitants that were in that land. I don’t see anything in scripture where it says that God will restore them to their land, especially since they are unbelieving and wicked. How can God be “blessing” them? All the so called leaders of the Jewish people are Kabbalists, very evil people. They make up their own laws, think they are so superior and anyone who is not of their tribe are worst than dirt. There are however, godly Jews who are Torah followers who just have not come to salvation in believing in Jesus as their Messiah. And the Zionist Christians are anxious for them to build a third temple, thinking that the Antichrist will begin ruling from there so it can hasten the return of Jesus…and then you have the NAR and WOF who believes that we are to take dominion by confessing and taking on areas of government, education etc. to spur Jesus to return. In which we know is absolutely untrue! The Lord said in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God…8 And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming: 9. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. There is so much confusion taught about the end times, and I have a hard time finding the time to really study. We just have to be on guard and constantly pray, especially for all who we know who need to be saved, taking one day at a time! God bless you!
@donjoseph73
@donjoseph73 6 ай бұрын
Those things are real but scripture is sufficient. If it’s not in scripture you don’t need it. That’s what the Holy Spirit helps you do. Not these books. If you like this book you have very poor discernment.
@dennismaher9533
@dennismaher9533 6 ай бұрын
Thats why most Pastors don't know or teach the Bible .
@magadaleneiris1928
@magadaleneiris1928 7 ай бұрын
The fact that you guys are fighting the book means all written in it is true! Same way the word of God is being fought.
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink 7 ай бұрын
So if we were to post videos or comments about the Satanic Bible, would you support that? I posted on problems with Mormonism. Does that prove Mormonism? My main concern with her books is her getting informational form an allegedly demonized person and trying to read ideas from demons into the Bible. We shouldn't get our doctrine from demons.
@WholeBibleBelieverWoman
@WholeBibleBelieverWoman 7 ай бұрын
AMEN...! "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so" (Acts 17:11).
@holzmann-
@holzmann- 7 ай бұрын
There is no biblical ground for divorce/remarriage. End of story
@greggraham3523
@greggraham3523 8 ай бұрын
I have learned a lot from RB,used her methods and they work. Your criticism is unreasonable,do something else.
@greggraham3523
@greggraham3523 8 ай бұрын
You are who? Nobody,your opinion,still laughing.
@superelitespaceforce5609
@superelitespaceforce5609 9 ай бұрын
Werewolves: yes they exist. A high level witch or warlock will eventually have a choice of what they want to transform into, choosing from [werewolf, werespider, snake, owl, vampire, etc]. transforming the body is a painful process that takes some time. For vampires, there is no painful process, but their cat teeth grow longer and can be sharpened, and they become addicted to blood. If interested, William Schnoebelen is a subject expert and has several interviews on YT.
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 9 ай бұрын
How big are the werespiders? No severed flying head monsters here or weretigers?
@superelitespaceforce5609
@superelitespaceforce5609 9 ай бұрын
@@linkhudson9025 I rely on the internet testimonies of people with personal experience. That would be a question for Bill Schnoebelen or anyone else with personal experience in that area, but considering the physics of exoskletons, I would expect the werespider to be less than 3' in length, possibly with leg span less than 6', but just a guess. I've never heard any mention of a weretiger in any ex-satanic testimonies. A natural wolf can be dangerous and scarey to a person without a suitable weapon of defense, but a werewolf stands 9' tall, adding a huge element of fear, the primary weapon of those who operate or are controlled by evil spirits. However, a tiger (or grizzly bear) walking slowly towards you with head down is scarey even if you have a suitable weapon, so no need to add fear points. In the demonic world, the projection of fear is the whole point.
@karenrichards1244
@karenrichards1244 9 ай бұрын
P.S. regarding my ex husband of 30 years...he had remarried, divorced and is now walking with the Lord. AND we are friends. Isn't God Awesome!?
@karenrichards1244
@karenrichards1244 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this correcting message. I divorced my husband after nearly 30 years of rocky marriage. I had biblical grounds. It was tough. I could have looked for someone else BUT God's grace was with me. He became my husband. And for more than 30 years now, He has never left me nor forsaken me. And He has been Faithful. I have never regretted not remarrying as Jesus is my All in All. He's all I need and all I want. I'll be 80 in a few months and am looking forward to seeing my Husband face to face. Thanks again for sharing your heart and wisdom on this matter.
@GS15460
@GS15460 9 ай бұрын
Maybe you can help me with a question, I've heard it argued 1 Cor 6:8 forbids suing period because of the line; "But you yourselves wrong and defraud-even your own brothers!" 'even your own brothers' implies Paul is condemning filing lawsuits with anyone, not only brothers. That said that is the ESV rendering, but other versions such as KJV render it differently "Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren." How would you respond to this? Thank you
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink 9 ай бұрын
I think it forbids suing fellow believers instead of handling matters in house. I think some of the Corinthians were defrauding others, not that Paul was saying that every case was a case of the plaintiff defrauding the defendant.
@GS15460
@GS15460 9 ай бұрын
@@SaudaraLink If I follow Matt 18 and treat him as a heathen if he refuses Church judgement, then in theory I could sue him. So why does Paul even mention (speaking clearly to the plaintiff "ye go to law" ) that they should "rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?"
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 9 ай бұрын
@@GS15460 that part appears to be directed at the plaintiff (or the cultural equivalent.) I suspect the accusation of defrauding probably had to do with a specific case or cases Paul had heard about.
@ForneverstarOfficial
@ForneverstarOfficial 9 ай бұрын
Currently enrolled at ats and love it, went to a very very small unaccredited place which i found out was little more than a diploma mill and the place i found after had its address to a mailbox at a strip mall. And several people of the faith have stuff from places like that. Alot of people just want the credentials me personlly im in the works at a community college for an actual degree for my career. I just want to study my faith. I know my seminary wont get me a salary advance i just want to be a missionary. God saved me and changed my life. Bless you all!:)
@ebukareuben5785
@ebukareuben5785 10 ай бұрын
Nice one Sir.i pray for God's mercy and answers to my prayers.
@glennrobinson7193
@glennrobinson7193 10 ай бұрын
Most christianity is witchcraft with their false god.
@bible1st
@bible1st 10 ай бұрын
I agree with one comment below, an unsubmissive wife is the enemy of the word of God. Point blank. Period. A woman with real understanding is going to seek to do what God has commanded above all else.
@glennmcb4450
@glennmcb4450 10 ай бұрын
I like John macAuthur, I think loads of people could well do speak in tongues, I don’t and would lean towards the apostle Paul’s view tongues, it can confuse other people in church & put other people off their own prayer in church, but I find it strange he was just ignored. I wouldn’t throw him under the bus either I’m glad you said that. God bless
@princebarikdar798
@princebarikdar798 10 ай бұрын
Brother Mannan I will be able to help you . I am proud of you. I will give you the necessary capital.
@platyfish3891
@platyfish3891 10 ай бұрын
After a year of silence in which no one spoke, no opinions were asserted....
@taliatehilahz7437
@taliatehilahz7437 10 ай бұрын
I read all the books and trust me as an African everything that she is saying is true. This book was a blessing for my family, my parents who were involved in the occult became safe the lord Jesus Christ save us. After reading the book I was highly aware of the spirit world and the presence of the holy spirit.
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink 10 ай бұрын
There were some theological issues with the book. She uses a 'spiritual body' verse about the resurrected body to argue that we have a 'spirit body' that can go into a doctor's house and throw plates at the doctor. The Bible also warns against listing to 'familiars', and the book depicts Rebecca Brown as learning all kinds of things about the spirit-realm from someone involved in many demonic activities. How does she know that things she saw weren't demonic visions full of lies? Demons can lie.
@gostreiver8036
@gostreiver8036 9 ай бұрын
None of your points make any sense, as she was clearly not saved at the time and any of the things you are refuting are backed up by countless other testimonies. You can even listen to videos and frequencies to astral project on KZbin. and Familiars are not hard to imagine either, as there are countless testimonies of people seeing demons or people who take "forms" even John ramirez, who has the most Bulletproof testimony of all, talks about how the Devil would manifest to him , Lucifer himself but in female form , a seductive female just so it would be pleasing for John There are testimonies of people casting out demons in churches and the person lies down on the ground and slithers like a snake FREE of any bones, this is completely against Physical reasoning but it occurs@@SaudaraLink
@JuliusLumempouw
@JuliusLumempouw 11 ай бұрын
Menurut mormon Yesus adalah saudara luziper, hasil pernikahan Allah dengan maria... dan itu sesat sekali, JS itu nabi palsu, TOKOH yg mengaku pendiri gereja tetapi sang poligamers.
@JuliusLumempouw
@JuliusLumempouw 11 ай бұрын
Mormon percaya kepada yesus yg palsu,... tidak ada lagi wahyu tambahan dari TUHAN, setelah ALKITAB ditutup sempurna oleh TUHAN Wahyu 22:18-21.
@dereklangseth9485
@dereklangseth9485 Жыл бұрын
The solution is to withhold money from the church until it starts teaching the whole truth about what the Christian Life is supposed to be. And make it clear that you are doing so.
@dereklangseth9485
@dereklangseth9485 Жыл бұрын
The problem today is that churches are trying to normalize the world's philosophies like feminism instead of teaching the proven truths of the Bible. Even going so far as to attack men who speak the truth on these issues.
@dereklangseth9485
@dereklangseth9485 Жыл бұрын
The issue is that today women are taught to rebel by society and not taught to submit by the churches. In time past a woman was taught submission by her parents, the church, and the school. And husbands enforced it by the power of the purse.
@dmelissa164
@dmelissa164 Жыл бұрын
I pray that the lord, has opened your eyes to the truth, this book is true, And I am witness to it, this is not ideas this Doctor lived this, you clearly have no knowledge of deliverance
@linkhudson9025
@linkhudson9025 Жыл бұрын
I have some knowledge of deluverance. I am not a 'specialist'. But I've been asked to join deliverance sessions with pastors and demonized individuals. I also can relate to the fact that it can seem a bit overwhelming like I saw in this book. The problem is...one of the problems... if the story occurred as was written, the author believed the demonic revelation of 'Elaine', accepted it as doctrine and slapped Bible verses taken out of context to support it. For example she takes a verse about the spiritual bodies of our future resurrected state and uses it to support the idea of 'spurit bodies' that can leave the physical body, throw plates at doctors in their homes. What if one of those spirits she was dealing with was a lying spirit, The book also makes out demons to be big and powerful. I know a number of people had difficulty sleeping while reading the book. I read that onlibe. Someone from church said the same thing. There are some true ideas in there...which you can get from reading a more straightforward book on deliverance that doesn't promote the doctrine that comes from the demonized individuals. It seems like some people's interactions with this topic is just through the RB books and yoi point out tge issue with promoting doctrines from the demonized person they think you don't believe there are demons.
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink Жыл бұрын
Were you there with 'Rebecca Brown' and 'Elaine'? If so, I'd be interested in hearing more about htat. I've seen demonization and I've been in deliverance meetings before. Not an area of 'specialization'. Again, the issue here is the doctrine in the book. RB got the idea from Elaine's alleged demonic experiences that we have a 'spirit body' in our spirit that could go out and do stuff like throw plates at a doctor in his apartment. Then she takes a verse about the spiritual body of the resurrected saint-- the resurrection happens at the coming of Christ--- and she uses that verse to support this 'spirit body' idea. And if the book is all legit and Elaine was not just lying herself.... where did she get the idea? From demonic revelation. Demons can lie. There is lots of junk like that in these books.
@angelacahill9460
@angelacahill9460 Жыл бұрын
This has not aged well. Turns out it's all fiction.
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink Жыл бұрын
I read allegations that it was fiction by PFO before I made this, and made with that in mind. But I don't know the people at 'PFO', so how do I know? and I offered my commentary on the books for what they said, giving the author the benefit of the doubt. Also, trying to reason with those who are fans of the book, if you tell them it's fiction, they may think you are from 'the Brotherhood.' I had someone try to accuse me of junk like that on one of these threads several years ago.
@angelacahill9460
@angelacahill9460 Жыл бұрын
@@SaudaraLink what is PFO?
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink Жыл бұрын
@@angelacahill9460 something or other freedom outreach. They had an expose on the books I read in the 1990s.
@timoromeo7663
@timoromeo7663 Жыл бұрын
Bible cemetaries are where you go to learn how to kill the bible.
@gordontarigan7138
@gordontarigan7138 Жыл бұрын
Orang yg membuat Vidio ini adalah salah satu pelayan setan. Saya bisa pastikan.
@Caveman007freelancer
@Caveman007freelancer Жыл бұрын
Self made líders are the worst disaster in Christianity. Seminaries do expose the Word according to a fix believe already set by the organizations that support financially the place. Then when the new liders or ministers come back to their churches they only are allowed to teach only those things that are accepted by that church elders, or denomination, the new pastor is just a salarie puppet. I left Christianity after 40 years in the faith. Now I only follow the word , the Father, the Jewish messiah ( not the Catholic Mesías in Christianity.
@Rebander1549
@Rebander1549 Жыл бұрын
I give you an apology for not being respectful of your views. I was taken up with Rebecca brown but after reading your observation that she looked to a witch for most of the information I thought critically about this. She quoted a lot of the Bible throughout this book, but you are correct in that she and Elaine made satan seem too powerful. When I read that Dr. Brown was addicted to a powerful pain killer this really made me stop. You are correct that our Holy Bible is the final authority and we really are dealing with a loser, the devil. At the time I read the book it made it seem as though being a child of God wasn't enough, and satan could do what he wanted to me. It took me a long time to get over the fear of losing to the big loser the devil and Dr. Brown's book did not help. After I began to seek out the Lord's will about this book in my life He directed me to reread it but this time with His holy Bible next to it. In comparison with the Bible it seems like the book doesn't give proper glory to Jesus. So I apologize to you. You made me think critically about this information and what God did for us on the cross. If people get saved from the book, praise God. Our ultimate authority is God and bless His holy name!
@GatheringBitByBit
@GatheringBitByBit Жыл бұрын
There’s a question of the original Hebrew definitions of the words in divorce and separation and even remarriage. You have not addressed the original biblical meanings. “Putting away”. “separation” and “ certificate of divorce”. Study The Old Testament on marriage, putting away, certificate of divorce and remarriage. Even Jesus referred to The Torah in The Old Testament regarding marriage and it was when the Pharisees were testing Him. I can see after reading comments this man is in over his head in his advice. Go and learn more before giving advice.
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink Жыл бұрын
I have seen some bogus arguments that try to persuade Their audience that Jesus was forbidding putting away a woman without her certificate. But I have seen this from not scholarly types for example on a website. Those who study the historical background realize that the Pharisees had a debate going on about the any cause divorce. It is clear from the context that they are discussing putting away a woman WITH a certificate. 'Whosoever shall put away his wife' clearly includes the one who does so with a certificate, especially since putting away WITH a certificate is the context of the conversation in Mt. 24 and Mark 10. And the Pharisees would have not accepted a divorce certificate from a woman as valid since the Bible doesn't mention or authorize it. The only reference to a woman divorcing a man is where Jesus calls it adultery for a woman to put away her husband and be married to another. I know of one case in that era in Judaism where a woman divorced her husband. According to Josephus the chief priests arranged for a divorce for Philip's wife---so maybe that was the case. John the Baptist said after her remarriage to Herod 'it is not lawful for you to have her.' But it was also his brother's wife, which was also forbidden. I am also not sure Philip never gave a certificate.
@GatheringBitByBit
@GatheringBitByBit Жыл бұрын
@@SaudaraLink - I don’t know what faith you are but “ your philosophy” because that is what it is, only enslaves the victim of divorce and YAHWEH is not a victimizer. Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
@SaudaraLink
@SaudaraLink Жыл бұрын
@@GatheringBitByBit imagine a man complains to you that his wife only wants to sleep with him once a month or once a year. He says he wants to have an affair with his children's babysitter. You say that's adultery and it's a sin. He says he is the victim and that you are trying to keep him with __your___ philosphy. What's the difference?
@roberttrevino62800
@roberttrevino62800 Жыл бұрын
Amen