If this was on land & the public could see it then it would be shut down. Horrible horrible industry

Even then they rape the seas for their fish meal. It is a disgusting industry at so many different levels

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKi8paeupK15gdk research into 'closed water systems' offers hope for wild fish .... but it's still factory -farming and water-polluting

@@johnwatson2632 They seem to be doing rather well with farming Abalone in either Australia or NZ.

Well, if you are concerned about food suplies, then stop eating farmed Salmon and Trout. The fact is, that for each kilo farmed fish, they need to catch one kilo wild fish (industrial fish as monkfish, sprat, blue whiting, norway pout, anchovies, horse mackerel and sardines, that btw. all are in the start of the food chain in our Oceans) and use one kilo soy to feed it. So you both empty the ocean and the forrest in e.g. Amazonas at the same time. Therefore there isn't any solutions to your need for samon. Use fish species that eat plants instead of predatory fish - AND put them on land-based facilities, so the water can be cleaned and reused. 😕

@@draconusspiritus1037: Abalone only lives in warm waters. 😉

@@IQueDK Many, probably most or even all areas have FRESH WATER fish that are considered trash fish. The sort of fish that so many sport anglers will just toss up on the bank to die when they catch one. They are considered trash fish because they flourish so readily. Reproducing and growing so quickly they often outpace the usual predators both in and out of the water. With the result of them squeezing out the more popular sport fishes. And for whatever reasons they are not considered suitable for the dinner plate. Odd or off flavor, excessively bony and or difficult to clean. Easily grown and not terribly picky. There is a viable food source for land locked farmed salmon. As opposed to the various fishes you mentioned. Carp are not a trash fish. Yet Carp will thrive in water that would kill almost anything else. And they can grow quite large. Regardless of where they are kept and raised, any farmed livestock of any sort is going to require food. Speaking only for myself. It is extremely rare for me to eat any sort of fish at all. My point being there are issues with the CURRENT methods being used to farm salmon. So why not seek other methods? Look at how other people do relatively similar things and see what you can adapt to fit your needs.

look above at my post, its the food supply of young samionds is gone, the mass decline of the insects

@@fredblogsmac.5697 I don’t know much about the state of insect life other than you can say it would be detrimental to the life cycle of any species dependant on them for food. My point was just blaming one cause serves only those with a prescribed agenda. There are so many aspects that are impacting on fish numbers, each of them are critical. I actually enjoyed reading your comments as you come across as someone who thinks for themselves. But I digress a little, the sea trout on Loch Maree have, like the rest around the Uk have been declining for a very long time. Before aquaculture became established in the 80’s and it’s very easy to crop a graph to make it fit the narrative. Fred, do you have any data to support the decline in insect life?

@@MADPIKER01 there,s tonn,s of data out there on the impact of the decline of insects, our sky,s here in Scotland used to be full all spring and summer with exclusively insect-eating birds, now a very rare sight, Housemartins, Gone !!! swallows Gone!!! Swifts Gone, and one carter of seatrout that made them very vulnerable to the decline of the insects , in Spring, Seatrout would gather at the estureys of all the big rivers of western Europe for months eating the mass daily hatches of Granamhones and Spinners and Mayflies, because the rivers were a better food supply than the still cold sea,s around west Europe, the salmon Smotls did the same gorging there way down the rivers in spring on the profile hatches of Insects down to the sea, here on the Ness the Fishery Board restocked the upper Ness with Smolts, with a near % 90 wipeout because they had no Insects to eat on there long journey to the sea, here on the Ness we had a %99 decline of Smolts going as far back as 2010, our 10 year average since then has gone from over 400 Salmon to barley over 50 for a session, many of them possibly caught two or three times meaning there may onle be half as many Salmon as the number,s suggest

@@MADPIKER01 another point, if it was just fish farms,s blamed for the decline in loch Marie, then loch Marie would be moving with natural wild brown trout, the same species as the Seatrout, but its not. its a desert like all the other lochs, here is some of the wild lochs I used to fish for wild trout, now all deserts kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4DXY4eZZq91o9U kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHm6m4yLYphneK8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIXEfpZjrM-hfJI kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z32Zp2ynppyod6s you will notice in these High Summer vid on once prolific wild trout fishery there not a Swift Swolow or Sandmartin to be seen over the water and not a trout to be seen, sad days indeed, id say its chemical air born pollution as there no intense farming here in North Scotland

All salmon from the shops will have salmon who have been eaten alive by sealice...you can sometimes see it by scarring on the meat of the salmon you buy from the shop..I've seen it and seen the holes and scars on salmon sold In the shop

because salmon farming (when done responsibly) has very little impact on wild salmon numbers. the science is fairly clear on that. bigger issues facing salmon are predation by increasing seal numbers, climate, river obstructions and river pollution from agriculture. fish farming is low on the list. not sure why organisations like salmon & trout conservation continue to push this red herring, diverting attention from real problems facing wild salmon.