@@LèndonGMS Most likely, yeah. It is super free funding right now though the fact that it takes 8 months I feel is already a hefty price to pay. We shall see!

@ yeah I get it, it does take a while and if the character was borderline duo ctene it’s a massive boost. But honestly I think if people are actively working on the mules, they should still be able to do it in less than 8 months, even when the weren’t strong enough to do the ctene before. In 3-4 months time a lot of progress can be made

@@LèndonGMS definitely with how common the starforce Sundays are :)

Not really. People sometimes still farm on side characters, but that is mostly to get them EXP while getting familiars in a lower leveled area for your main, but then you'd need the full Drop AND Meso gear. Better now to just do that on your highest lvl char who already has that gear, in a Grandis area where you can get sol erda fragments as well! Most meso now is made off of boss mules who sell the weekly crystals. Way more buildup than a Kanna Farmer way back, but the payoff in short amount of time is great (up to 180 crystals per week).

@@Scardor So I started with a luminious burning character, at 245 atm. Should I just get mesos gear and train on it for now until way later? I'm pretty terrible at bossing so I doubt I'd be making bossing mules. This is a new account and I'm lost as to how to start now really since last I played you just started by making a kanna and farming while doing arcane daillies on your main.

This has to happen, along with bringing back our wild totems

@@NoseContar don't need or want those back and never going to happen. Just revert Heroic mobs back to the original reboot hp and exp values with huge FD passive buffs.

Standard session time :D You should see some of the other ones... O_O

@Scardor dont lure me into more or your content D:<

I checked form another comment and I believe their point is better at explaining: In Korea you only get 1 free run per day, so F2P it takes you 77 weeks now to get the medal. The extra clears cost money. So for the F2P people, MPE way is actually WAY faster than regular. I think with that in mind it actually makes a lot of sense.

If you want to talk about it, hit me up. But from what I can read you just repeated everything I said in the video...

@Scardor well i only made it through half the video i got distracted so im not sure if you looped back to it, but the gist i got is that we agree they are generally good changes, but its hard to even say that because you portrayed both as "overall nerfs" to the systems. Liberation i can somewhat understand, there are pros and cons. Obviously its a nerf to the current system of red dot leeching, but its a huge buff to anyone who is willing to put the time into a character, so the way i see it they got 2 birds with 1 stone. 1) removed the rather degenerate liberation leech methods for mules. 2) cut down significantly on time for liberation for anyone funding their character. I know you agree 2 is good and im not sure if you agree 1 is good because you seem more attached to that method than i am, but it sounds like you can see the benefits of the system and purely focus on the negagtives. On the other hand, I just dont see how you could ever construe 77>30 runs as a nerf, but you focused on the mpe aspect which granted, is somewhat lengthy. What i said still stands though, if you are doing mp to level a burning character, you will probably be half done by the time you are 260. At that point, just do 2 more weeks of mp on the character and you are done. Its still good xp at 260, and legion champs gotta go past 260 anyways. Who cares about the mpe aspect, its still hugely improved if you entirely ignore it, but instead you choose to entirely focus on it and portray it as a nerf? Idk maybe i can rewatch but at the time of watching i rewound that section like 3 times because i was trying to wrap my head around your opinion, and i just couldnt. Im down for being critical of nexon i just think you should be fair with it and not go to the edges of the earth to find the negatives, because thats what this felt like. Both changes are really good and i dont want new players to think they are awful because you focus so heavily on the shortcomings

@@momoaa Sorry, when I say talk I meant like on Discord in voice or something. I do think ironing these disagreements out is the right thing to do, but your message is HELLA long, brother.

Ah yes, good point. Another non-Reboot vs. Heroic difference here being magnified.

Oof.

Yeah, I thought the skill was always dead until the 2nd mastery, then it became useful for lazy farming for strong people, right? I guess though with the range Lumi already has and Sol Janus it is not /that/ important anymore?

@@Scardor pretty much, especially with eternal lightness reflection might be just as good anyway depending on the map, but i havent really looked into it that much. its just kinda funny they deleted morningstar only a year after it had a legitimate use

i have to imagine its as simple as all the liberation steps you have already compelted will stay completed. its more or less the exact same system, it uses the same exact menu and everything. but instead of using the once per month black mage drop, you use a special resource instead that can be gotten from more bosses then just black mage.

There was an update in the Live Patch Notes compared to the Tespia ones, since I believe the scenario of carry over clears was not written out in there.

It’s litteraly 6 months away.

It is far away, this game is a game you're meant to play for some years to progress endgame, not really designed for casual players as much as players who are willing to grind a lot since that's where you're getting a lot of nodes and xp, as well as daily quests for symbols etc. It has gotten better for casual players with event rewards though which helps them a lot more than it used to.

It's far away, but if you stick with it you will get there before you know it!

Wait till you learn he streams for 12 straight

it is he job to play ms everday so talking for more then 4hr or more is part of the job if u do twitch ever day

This is nothing >:D

Uhh, what?

To have the keys stuck to the screen? Right now there is no option for that, no.

he has 3 @ lvl 20 each so every skill is still getting boosted by 60, no clue why tho

@@Ohhsoodead Since at higher levels it's more expensive to level nodes and you have plenty of slots, for non-main characters it is a valid strategy (you can put more nodes in +5 slots and get many free levels). As long as the slots aren't needed for other crucial skills, of course.

I mean in the end of the day you play what you most comfy with but in tern of raw stats. Nw is so much better

@ I have a NW as well. It's significantly easier with double bind and an , but there's something special about NL.

I know it is meant to highlight the strengths of NL but every class can kinda solo vhilla pretty easily with heal fams without the need for BoD though.

@@oscarruiz4233 Nw is for boys. NL is for men.

​@@oscarruiz4233 NL just hits right ;)

I honestly would not know, sorry. As far as I know that version of the game is not available in my region at all. As long as you follow the logic of what is additive and what is multiplicative and how much access to the sources you have, the logic should prevail.

@@Scardor Thank you.