Whilst that is true I have examples of it not engaging the front motor and the car sliding…

No no! Have to have the same type on both axles

That’s part 2…

I would add the world wide charging network and the NACS interface are another HUGH plus for Tesla but now that the network is opening up to non-Tesla EVs . . . well, it will be much easier for me not to buy another Tesla in favor of one of the competition. Thanks Elon - - I bet your stockholders love you for this and how you are destroying the Tesla brand.

Thanks, will do!

My MG4 isn't as clever as a Tesla, but on Thursday evening I set the car to heat the battery just at the end of the cheap-rate electricity, as well as charging to 100%. Then while I was having breakfast next morning I turned on battery heating again manually and it did another 15-20 minutes before it told me it was back up to temperature. I let the car recover the charge it had used (it takes it from the battery) then asked it to pre-heat the cabin. I saw it go from -1C to +16C in ten minutes. I let the car recover to 100% charge. (Maybe there's an easier way to do this, I don't know, but it was simple to tap the phone while I had breakfast.) I walked out to a toasty-warm ready car, put the luggage in and was off, without even putting a jacket on. I didn't get chilled at all, so I was able to drive the whole way just in a pullover, even though I was looking at an outside temperature reading of -2.5C. My car doesn't even have a heat pump, but the amount of charge I used all day was only a few minutes extra at each of my charging stops. If that. I mean, who could possibly prefer going out to an ICE-box of a car, scrape the windows (unless it's been in the garage), get into the ICE-box and drive for 10 miles before the heat starts to come through, by which time you're thoroughly chilled? Been there, done that, and yes my petrol car had heated seats, they're not a patch on instant heat that fills the car the minute you get into it, or (usually) even before you got into it.

Yes I read about that. A needed improvement!

We could use a few thousand of the 'old' SuperChargers here in Australia, in particular the Outback, where there are NONE !!!

@@tonykelpie and efficiency is further improved by slightly drafting said lorries.

Good question, and good idea 😏

No, the energy used would be LESS, because the preconditioning uses grid power before you even start. And because the battery is already warm, it doesn't use the energy stored in the battery to heat itself up to the temp it likes (around 40c).

I’m sat filming that segment at Tebay, where the opposition units do 104kW max. I’m on 75% SOC sucking 62kW. I don’t care if the charging curve is a little better than Tesla, it still drops. I’m still getting a good proportion of the maximum at 75%. - it’s significantly quicker

Tesla's are the best in terms of miles range gained per minute of charging. Efficiency beats KWh added, especially as most UK chargers don't get much above 150kw, whatever is advertised.

“ Efficiency beats KWh added” - tell that to the new Porshe Tycan. There is plenty of 350kW chargers and more being installed. I’m not against Tesla, I do appreciate what they did to car industry. My point is, Ian should be and is educating people via his channel, so talking about changing curve is very important.

Did you see OUTOFSPEC motoring i90 challenge, where they drove 3000 miles from Seattle to Boston, with 9 ev’s and an ice, Tesla model 3 rwd long range finished 2nd ahead of the Hyundai, and just behind the Taycan

Yes, I did watch it, and it was a real pleasure. Did you watch after race OOS video with Teala team? They clearly stated that big part in Ioniq6 finishing 15 min behind Tesla was due to positioning of chargers. And please remember USofA is years behind Europe if it comes to nonTesla charging. In UK every service station is right off the motorway and has plentiful of high powered chargers. Just saying, gather all the data and present to viewers in the manner that educates us all.

Because sitting at the supercharger beyond 80% is very slow. Only the MacMaster sits at a charger to 100% so that he can clickbait his audience with complaints about how long it takes to charge an EV 😁

Besides charging speed, lithium ion batteries have more degradation charging past 80% so maximum range will decrease faster.

@@twostate7822 its not a problem with LFP batteries. Personally I have found it only slow down a little bit, and Im usually too busy drinking coffee to worry!

@@julianguffogg That's why I noted lithium ion batteries.

@@twostate7822 Both of your statements are incorrect. LFP (Lithium Ferrous Phosphate) batteries (which can and should be charged to 100% frequently) don't have the 80% issue that NCM batteries have. BOTH types are Lithium, but they are VERY different in almost all other ways.

Less than 10%

Sure, as long as the road isn't on a knife edge.

@greghudson9717 🤔😁

People like you, generally

@colinnich Congrats! You win the prize for the most irrational, meaningless statement of the week. Is your intellectual prowess indicative of all EV supporters?

Your diesel doesn’t care? Of course it does! Fuel economy is affected on mechanical engines just as much as it is on an EV.

@justgetatesla That may be technically correct, but in 19 years, I've yet to experience any noticeable practical range reduction whatsoever. Hot or cold conditions, it's just not a thing. So there's that. But the same cannot be said for EVs. That's why it's a topic re EVs.

​@@glenwillson5073you're so happy with your diesel but you're still here trolling an EV channel😅

Being upfront here: I am a 4 year Tesla owner living in central Norway, and we travel as a family (with dog) around europe every summer on vacation (>6k km in 3.5 weeks). So in short, yes an EV can be a pain in the arse. But it doesn't need to be. The magic trick is to maximise the major advantage of the EV (unattended "refuelling") whilst minimising the major weaknesses (range and slow "refuelling"). You absolutely want to have home charging, and if you don't then you want workplace charging. That way your car can charge whilst you are doing something else that you need to do anyway (so no extra inconvenience). Without one of those options, the ownership experience is for sure less convenient than an ICE. As we have home charging the only inconvenience we suffer is charging when we are on vacation. Not fast charging on the road, cos the European fast charging network is excellent now, but destination charging where we stay on vacation. So i do need to plan a little when booking holiday destinations to ensure that charging won't be a problem. Otherwise, no real problems. Range is for sure impacted in the cold, and when i am doing short journeys in the Norwegian winter (-10 to -15 degrees), huge amounts of energy get used to heat the car and my overall consumption is horrific. But if i just get in and drive a long distance (which only needs to heat the car once) it's not so bad at all. Plus, the traction control is incredible and the car is superb in slippery conditions.

Why do you think an EV would be a pain? I suspect you’re not driving more than 300 kilometers for your daily commute to work and stopping at the market. For your daily driving, it’s going to be significantly less of a pain because you will never have to stop for gas. When you wake up your car has a full tank of gas. If you’re constantly going on 1500 kilometer road trips then perhaps it will be less than ideal depending on your charging infrastructure. I absolutely love my Model 3. I don’t know how your country is, but in the USA the Tesla charging infrastructure is great but other charging infrastructures are pretty poor. They are so bad that car manufacturers are getting Tesla to let them use their chargers.

I just got my first EV, a Tesla model 3 LR dual motor. I do a combination of local (school runs etc) and 400 mile round trips. The only issue I have is relying on public chargers on the big journeys, however I have started to appreciate a 30 min coffee stop and minor D tour. For bigger journeys you need to plan and be prepared to set new habits. You'll soon learn the best places and sometimes take a little 30 min adventure somewhere else. One difference is you don't need to fill the battery, just stop long enough to get range.

Tomorrow morning I'm going on a 3600km round trip from Melbourne Vic to Surfers Paradise Qld. I have done it at least 6 times, and it ain't a pain in the arse, if anything it is easy.

@@greghudson9717 Good, it should be at least as easy as in an ICE car otherwise we are going backwards.

If you have track mode

Basically edited quite a lot more basically out. What was wrong with me on that trip???

[Not too seriously 😁]

A few percent!

@@justgetatesla thank you so much for the reply! 😁

OUTOFSPEC YT channel did a test last year, parked their car beside a supercharger for 2 days in -19f temp at 35% soc, When they plugged in the car it took 45 mins and 4kw of power to heat the battery before the battery started to take a charge, They charged up to 90%.

Musk is committed to Musk. Look at it this way, if Musk going MAGA means that Trump supporters now think Tesla is acceptable then that’s a big market penetration gain for EVs…

@justgetatesla but he lost all the rich Democrats and environmentalists from the rest of the world. Tesla shareholders must be furious.

Yea, Tesla shareholders are furious about the huge spike in their value. Musk isn’t in this for Tesla alone - he gave away their IP in the early days to allow other manufacturers to catch up..

@justgetatesla and then there's the issue of why you're promoting a company associated with someone with these values...

Yes, perhaps I should sell my car because i disagree with Musk. Perhaps I should sell everything made by a company whose politics upsets me. Or, maybe not

I only have heating set on 19 - I genuinely think it gets too hot otherwise!

@@justgetatesla Coming from a non-heat pump Model 3 to a heat-pump Model Y, I find it gets a lot warmer. I ran the Model 3 and 20-21 degrees, but the Y at 19.

Watch part 2 next week. I turn a -7% prediction to a +5% reality…

Wait, are you talking about turning off charging stops in navigation? How would that work for a longer trip? You still have to stop for charging but then you’re going to be on your own trying to figure out where they’re at. Am I misunderstanding what you’re meaning?

Usually the car is right. Sometimes it isn’t. Removing charging stops and then adding them later can be the right strategy. As it is with me in part 2…

@ probably worth stressing unless key knowledge trust the Tesla.

The food is brilliant! I eat there if I can

I remember Tebay when it was little more than a roadside cafe an fuel stop.

I've stayed in that hotel but always used to favour Killington Lake for my southbound stops. Except it takes about two hours to charge an EV there, so that's off the menu until they sort out something better. At least Tebay having chargers now means my peregrinations around Penrith trying to get a charger on the Saturday before Christmas won't have to be repeated this year.

Very VERY light foot! 🫡