I assume the Haynes manual about how to have a baby, is post the bedroom phase😂😂

Since Hyundais look like BMW, BMW are trying to look Korean.

Unfortunately, as soon as different views are described as cults the discussion is lost. Plenty of positive stuff from Moggie but the issues mentioned do exist,for many people, following what they normally do when buying or running cars have real difficulties running EV’s which you cannot trivialise. A mix of EV, ICE and other technologies is the answer and certainly not just “one solution “ fits all…and I’m a PHEV owner!

Bad for first owners but good news for us with second hand cars. I actually went to sytner to look at a 5 door one for about 135 thousand and sat in one it was great. I knew and they knew I couldn't afford one me and my mate where there for fun but might be able to in the future just wait abit

The production of cheap, green electricity, and plenty of it, needs to run parallel to the EV push. New Zealand has plenty of green electricity (hydro, geothermal, wind) but it's too expensive and the infrastructure is lacking.

I have recently made the switch to being an EV owner(ok it’s done via a salary sacrifice scheme through my employer) and being a fully paid up petrol head, I have to say I enjoyed the conversation you guys were having. I made the switch for purely financial reasons as my work scheme covers all costs and I can charge for free at work. I love all the tech my Ionic 6 has can’t fault it. I believe the manufacturers have focused on the wrong sector if they want to sell more products then they need to appeal to the biggest market ie the family and average man/woman not company directors and people who want a car with a 1000hp!!!

Brilliant podcast/video. Every car guy or gal should see this. Moggy said a lot of sensible things. Brilliant guy. He knows his stuff.

The best analysis was the part about who needs an EV so long as you have offroad parking and charging facilities, I've been saying this for years now. For those in flats etc or where they have no parking/ garages it's pointless. However as mentioned below, if the EV is less than say £45/50K to buy then Sales are probably doing OK, but above that figure then they're tanking in value overnight. The Car values in general have been reset after C-19 and value are returning to what they should be, but Manufacturers are now charging a hefty price tag on new cars. Possibly No option as emissions are driving up costs amongst other stuff.

My question to Moggy is "When are you coming back for Part 2??" He was brilliant - I liked Joe's comment about 'Last question....' wasn't that his first - great episode guys!!

I do like a twin charger engine and I have one in my XC90 T8. 0-60 around 5 secs.

Good myth busting by Moggy

Loved this episode! Keep up the great work.

Why would a channel for car lovers feature content which (1) has EV in the title, but (2) is not 100% clearly anti-EV? on;t you want subscribers of viewers? Makes as much sense as Tottenham Fen TV running a 10 part series on Thierry Henry.

Great episode - so good to hear Moggy join the conversation and give his insights about EVs. The historical context he gave was great tbh, not simply talking about ICE vs EV but a zoomed-out look at the evolution of technology in transportation. Well done guys - great show!

The issue for me is choice. A hundred odd years of development have made ice cars a simple ownership experience. Forced ev adoption and the speed of forced change are creating massive problems. The fact that people have to try and convince us the ev’s are so good, says it all. If they are so good, you would not need to convince people.

Good content ECC - a huge fan of your work.

Thanks, I enjoyed listening to Moggy.

Just look at auto trader lots of pre registered EV cars going way under list because they are not selling

I know plenty of people who have purchased EV’s and returned to ICE vehicles because of range anxiety and depreciation?

I had to stop listening when he said ice drivers are like a cult but EV users aren’t . Sorry if you are a car guy then you can appreciate both but the holier than now position that all EV drivers are informed and everyone else hasn’t seen the light made me turn off a podcast first time ever. I get it he is passionate but lacks respect for everyone apparently now awakened to the light. Never mind the environmental damage done creating batteries whilst comparing to ice emissions. Very preachy Before he went on that I was genuinely thinking he has a great point. Then I just went off it all together. Makes me want to go drive my discovery towing my M3 while both are running. This is where the EV cult is a thing because self righteous is the definition of a cult.

Guys have an Nakamichi tape dec which does exactly that with the draws. Also Hanes also doa manual for retirement, can recomend it

Sorry too much mis information from this, so down voting this one

People stop for 10mins, not hours whilst the car charges... so thats BS

Why is Porsche putting engines back into EVs, why is Ford making 4000 workers redundant due to lack of EV sales, its because EVs are NOT selling

Sweden Norway, are completely diffferent countries to UK, talking rubbish about UK becoming like those countries, who wants to buy a car from Elon, that awful person... Hybrid and alternative fuels will win, EV will not work out, its IS the BETAMAX of cars

Moggy from Electric Classic Cars. I loved him on the show you did Ped on Discovery+ Vintage Voltage. Ive followed the business and what they do ever since you introduced me to them through the show. What a great guy to have on the channel. Thanks 💯 %

Not if it's an E31 8-Series. Appreciating 😎

Depreciation figures are often bollocks and always have been, and it’s down to discounts. The cheapest Fiat 500e’s on AT are over £10k for a start, and new ones can be had for £24k. Not fantastic, but not as bad as it at first appears.

I thought 8 or so years ago teala would be over taken by the likes of Ford, GM and the big 3 Germans etc. Hasnt happened. In the opposite is true

Guys.... Tesla are way WAY ahead!! Single stamped giga castings, 48v architecture, steer by wire, heat pumps.... These are just a few examples. They (Tesla) keep repeating this quote... the machine that builds the machine... and they are not wrong. The winners will be the people who master efficiencies in manufacturing to drive down pricing!!

But EV sales are not going down!

I have MYP it’s a great car does everything you want. I drive it more than my M3 Touring because it’s just so easy especially for shorter trip it’s an all weather monster. Only thing I’d say is the chassis can’t cope with the power I’d go as far to say you don’t have much control once in full flight it’s all over the place. The M3 is completely tied down you are in full control.

If you seat in a BYD Seal you will not buy a Tesla.

Tesla model s has been out 14 years and tesla were also building a supercharger network which is the best network hands down. So for your guest to suggest tesla didn't make any money for years is both true and nonsense. No other 'car' maker has its own network. That's where they money went. There are model S cars in the UK with 430k on, one in Europe has 1.2 million but that one is triggers broom

100% not just dominating the EV market but in some places the car market. More and more people are realising that an EV works for them and when it comes to EV’s Tesla are the best. They’ve built from the ground up so everything just works. In a world that is so foreign to ev’s, making the total ownership experience as easy and smooth as possible is the reason why they’re still and will continue to dominate. Now they’re beginning to make good quality premium cars which now starts enticing those who have only ever gone with the Germans because of the perceived premium quality. If you haven’t already, you guys should deffo test out the new model 3, performance to maybe better suit your car enthusiasm

FUK Tesla! 🙄

Tesla sales in Europe will plummet now that Elon is in bed with Trump, and so will Tesla sales in China if Trump starts his trade war. Elon has shoot himself in both feet.

He is wrong

Interesting insight, very entertaining..

She's a natural, have been watching her stuff on and off for years now. Stunner too! Well done Becky!

Why did you delete the ktm cheese cam video?

A MUG and their money are easily parted springs to mind

It looks like the manufacturer is producing far too many cars to devalue your existing model. Stop buying new cars. Let the manufacturer run them into used cars. Is it £50k loss of £50k overpriced. I believe the motortrade is the cause of inflation. A newer model must be £20k more than last year's? The product has got worse yet production costs more?

Got me thinking about the cheapest two door the VAG group make still. What about the two door VW T-Roc cabriolet? Base that should be cheaper than the Boxster/Cayman I’m sure.

T-Roc cab is a 2 door……

Will the Audi Q8 Etron continue to drop like a stone or have the prices settled now?

Fascinating - I have the book set on my list for Santa this year!

I've only ever had 2 brand new cars and I dread the amount of decepriation those cars lost over the years I had one and still own the other... But a few years ago, my wife's Abarth 124 was worth more than when we brought it...!!??!!

So no charges then 🤷‍♂️

Really interesting insight 👍🏻