The Shang Chi one was pointing to Kang. As we all know, that didn't pan out.
@Beastinvader4 сағат бұрын
Honestly I would be happy if they just adapt Ultimate Alliance 1's story.
@TheGeekzNetwork4 сағат бұрын
I understand what Marvel is doing with the MCU’s Multiverse Saga, they’re just trying to find ways to appeal to those who are only fans of Marvel’s most recognizable characters that wishes they’re in that cinematic franchise. That’s exactly what Marvel is doing now, they’re just like “Hey. People hate the Infinity Saga because of the lack of most memorable characters like Deadpool, the X-Men, Silver Sufer, and Fantastic Four due to film rights issues, but now that our parent company bought 21st Century Fox. All the haters of the Infinity Saga? we gotta appeal to them. so we’ll just trying to make them do everything by making those characters just show up by their own will.”
@whatsyddoes91485 сағат бұрын
The only marvel movies I rewatch are the old ones
@vmg.80267 сағат бұрын
Smh here we go again
@AkoladeBabatunde7 сағат бұрын
Man you guys complain about every single thing marvel does like nothing can be positive. Y can’t you guys just be more positive about stuffs please talk about Superman how you are excited about it and leave the MCU alone it’s clear that you’re over it why continue to talk about it. I want to hear more positive things about comic book movies let’s talk about the DCU and Superman, the obsession over the MCU is getting irritating and if any of the MCU movies make more than Superman I will blame channels like this for talking so much about the MCU be it positive or negative
@FantagonisticСағат бұрын
@@AkoladeBabatunde I’m actually hopeful Thunderbolts will be good. I like most of the characters and the style. I’m just sad because I would have loved a Thunderbolts movie that actually adapted the Thunderbolts comics because the comics are such an interesting concept.
@cooldustin828 сағат бұрын
If a Nazi isn’t secretly the creator of the Thunderbolts, then why does it have a name referencing Nazi iconography? That’s my question.
@benjamindavis77548 сағат бұрын
Again I think this Thunderbolts Team might be the favorites vs Avengers coming next w/ Sam's New Avengers Torres Shang Chi ect. Rhodey's West Coast Avengers She-Hulk Wonder Man Vision etc. Carol's A-Force Girls* and Young Avengers Kamala Kate Bishop Cassie Wiccan and Speed etc.
@benjamindavis77548 сағат бұрын
1st the elephant - This Thunderbolts* title is a place holder for Dark Avengers that's what Kevin wants ? I also think the film will reveal Thunderbolts is a precursor for Dark Avengers maybe like The Government through Val or President Ross want a Controllable Avengers Team. But not realizing a Super Group of Anti-Heroes and Villains posing as Heroes can't actually be controlled ? I have high hopes that out of the titles we're getting Thunderbolts and DD Born Again will be Good vs everything else coming like Cap 4 and Ironheart are going to BOMB HARD. And F4 will be Make or Break ? But casting Shalla Bal the least popular / least known Surfer over her Husband Norin Radd The Actual Beloved and #1 most popular Surfer is off to a bad start. Anyway this Thunderbolts Team will be Bucky's Avengers Team / Thunderbolts that's my best guess ? They might be the favorites over , Sam's New Avengers they will reveal his recruit list post credit w/ characters we might not like ? Or West Coast Avengers coming after Vision Wonder Man Armor Wars ?
@FantagonisticСағат бұрын
@@benjamindavis7754 I’m really rooting for Daredevil! Please be good!
@dragonslayer52598 сағат бұрын
This video is better then the thumbnail made it look 🔥
@WilliamAndersen-hs4re8 сағат бұрын
This is very reminiscent to what happened with X-men first class. That movie was good and i do Think this one is going to be good as well, but i do understand your point.
@burgergud28048 сағат бұрын
Why do most critics who have good points and criticism always sound the most annoying guy ever?
@WilliamAndersen-hs4re9 сағат бұрын
Wasn’t Feige the guy who snuck comic books on the set of X-men 2000 when Bryan Singer didn’t allow them.
@rjk5377 сағат бұрын
Soo the director didn’t allow comics books into the set? Of a comic book movie?? Why was he the director again?? Who thought that was a good idea?
@therealmr.incredible317910 сағат бұрын
I still think Zemo should be in Thunderbolts and Black Falcon Movie
@immortalempiresking916811 сағат бұрын
Can you at least be honest about 3 things? 1. Every member of this version of Thunderbolts has appeared in a previous MCU project. I read this in a ScreenRant article. Sold for me!!! 2. Those comic book fans are still excited about the Thunderbolts* movie, even if the team has absolutely zero recognizable characters from the comics. 3. Bucky is the best anti-hero in Marvel!!!
@lemason598111 сағат бұрын
This film would have benefited from james gunns expertise in anti hero films
@Fantagonistic11 сағат бұрын
@@lemason5981 I’m sure Gunn’s version would’ve lifted characters right outta the old comics
@mrmurasakino15 сағат бұрын
I will kindly explain the thunderbolts* it's place holder name and they're actually the dark avengers but marvel didn't want to call it dark avengers because people would see the term avengers and set high ass expectations so they named it thunderbolts*
@dabber_4717 сағат бұрын
Also Spider-man worked better because the other two Spider-men were from recent times where younger people remembered them. Micheal Keaton was from the early 90s where not many younger people might remember him. Maybe if we got Christian Bale back it would have been better, continuing his story with Robin and stuff
@Fantagonistic16 сағат бұрын
@@dabber_47 I would love to see the Robin ending continued in a multiverse movie cameo one day, but I doubt we’ll see Bale return any time soon.
@basedostrich17 сағат бұрын
Hey man, if they can put Poka Dot Man and Arm Fall Off Boy in a Suicide Squad movie then I don't think the comic accuracy thing holds water anymore. What really matters is if the movie itself is good period. I think the roster of characters is uninteresting not because they don't reflect comic versions but because it's clear this is Marvel's version of a trash pit of characters they don't know what else to do with at the time.
@Fantagonistic16 сағат бұрын
@@basedostrich Basically my thoughts in the end, yeah. I just think being true to the spirit of the team is a better way to adapt things because you’re adapting what made the idea popular. For SS I think using Polka Dot Man was fine because the spirit of the SS is low level villains no one will miss. But Arm Fall Off Boy being used annoyed me
@jagdeishwarmagendran339517 сағат бұрын
Figie should realy keep the comics as it is and do what he wants in the MCU. The reason i don't like race swap and gender swap in the MCU is bacause of how MARVEL will try to Retcon the comics to match the MCU. Perfect example is the Eternals, they did both by swaping the genders of Ajak, Makkari and Sprite, while also Race swaping Kingo from Japanese to Indian which also transfered to the comics. And the retcin was, the Eternals had to die and be reincarnated to the genders of their choosing ! The Marvel's Dar ben was also Race swapped from the comics from Male to Female. But that was not a concern cinsidering Dar ben was a one off villain in the comics. And the upcoming characters, Silver Surfer and Wonder man got this treetment as well. Silver surfer is gonna be a woman while Wonder Man is gonna be race swapped. I don't mind the difference in the MCU but as this happens in the movies, the Retcon in the comics will be way worst, as the in universe reasoning will be terrible as f#%k ! You want representation, just add in the existing characters in the comics insted of swaping race and genders from the original source Material. Just imagine race Swaping the Black Panther or Blue Marvel to be white men. It will not look great right !
@Fantagonistic16 сағат бұрын
@@jagdeishwarmagendran3395 I hate when they change things to match the movies. Like when they decided Wanda and Pieteo were not Magneto’s children. It’s so annoying because it doesn’t bring in new readers and it just alienates long time readers. And yes, the in universe explanations are always ham fisted and stupid.
@jagdeishwarmagendran339513 сағат бұрын
@Fantagonistic it truly is what it is ever since the Disney bought marvel. I mean, retcon after retcon just to match the movies is just so wrong. The worst was the fact that they made Kamala khan aka Ms.Marvel die in a comic where she has very little contribution and revived into a Mutant/Inhuman Hybrid ! That takes the cake here.
@O_re_012 сағат бұрын
Except the female Silver Surfer is a totally different character named Shalla-Bal so it doesn't affect anything, you should know it by now
@brotherjustincrowe17 сағат бұрын
Lot of inaccuracies in this video, but…Eddie Brock has never been a Guardian. That was Flash Thompson as Venom. There are entirely too many mispronounced character names in this for me to take it seriously. No love for Bucky leading the team on and off for almost the last ten years? Kamala was retconned into being a mutant because that was the original plan a decade plus ago before the edict to play down mutants and promote the Inhumans. He’s correcting a mistake that should never have been made. Iron Man was never a Thunderbolt. He was a double agent disguised as Cobalt Man. The current iteration of the team IS named that for a reason, and the next arc features characters like Songbird and Atlas, too, but okay.
@Fantagonistic16 сағат бұрын
@@brotherjustincrowe Yep, the Eddie Brock name was a brain fart while filming the video, I think it still kinda works though based on how the Ghost and Taskmaster they’re using are not the characters who held that title in the comics, so they’re just swapping one out for another. The original idea for Kamala may have been a mutant, but after almost 10 years of the character being established as not connected to the X side of things it’s a drastic change to just suddenly turn her into one. And it wasn’t something the writers just decided to do, it was “requested” from above. Much like it was mandated to not in the first place. Both times for reasons outside the comic universe continuity. Besides Yelena who I always thought had an N in Belova for some reason, what other names are pronounced incorrectly? Most of these I’ve only ever read in comic form. Thanks for all your feedback! Constructive critiques are always appreciated!
@indatube18 сағат бұрын
Wrong. Kamala was always supposed to be a mutant in the comics, it’s not a Kevin mandate, it’s a fuck Fox no more mutants to fuel your license mandate that was reversed when they got the rights back. So you’re going to have to pick another point to hate on feige
@Fantagonistic17 сағат бұрын
@@indatube I don’t hate Feige. The writer of that comic said in an interview he was specifically told by Feige to turn Kamala into a mutant. It may have been an idea before, but when they actually did it it was a mandate straight from Feige for the specific purpose of making her the first mutant in the MCU.
@WilliamAndersen-hs4re8 сағат бұрын
I’m just happy that the inhumans are being forgotten again. (Except Black bolt i like him)
@icenovice18 сағат бұрын
hey don’t talk crap about ant-man versus supervillains, he could solo thanos without the stones
@attackofthecopyrightbots19 сағат бұрын
2:00 my favorite one(one of the worst comics ever) was when they focused a whole arc on gangs in jersey city without the thunderbolts shown once
@attackofthecopyrightbots19 сағат бұрын
yeah
@Juan_x_Pedro20 сағат бұрын
Captain Marvel is a bad adaptation? Tbh Iman Vellani cares more about Ms Marvel than Kevin
@Fantagonistic20 сағат бұрын
@@Juan_x_Pedro Ms. Marvel aka Kamala Kahn was a fine adaptation besides the powers. But Captain Marvel aka Carol Danver’s movie changed and discarded the source material more than any previous MCU movie.
@Juan_x_Pedro20 сағат бұрын
@Fantagonistic that is fair, I'm not a Big Captain Marvel fan, but I am a Big Ms Marvel fan tho. I wish they kept her Powers😞
@Fantagonistic19 сағат бұрын
@ Same, visually she’s a lotta fun in the comics
@PauTheDeo23 сағат бұрын
I really wish they went with the OG Thunderbolts comics instead of Marvel Suicide Squad
@Fantagonistic23 сағат бұрын
@@PauTheDeo It’s a shame, that would’ve been awesome!
@BillyWiccanHexКүн бұрын
hey, could be worse. You can have a 50% comic accurate group except they make all the characters act completely different from the comics and they all act exactly the same as each other and sucked in their projects, thus making the combination of characters uninteresting and probably gonna be unbearable to watch. (young avengers).
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@BillyWiccanHex At this point I’ll be surprised if they actually make the Young Avengers. Right after Endgame was their chance to do it, now I think that ship has sailed.
@BillyWiccanHex22 сағат бұрын
@@Fantagonistic yeah they for some reason made them all nearly 30 instead of nearly 20.
@Fantagonistic21 сағат бұрын
@ Man, that bothered me so much. I think they were hoping to use them as a New Avengers instead to replace the originals. But when they saw how apathetically received they were…
@BlazeyatesКүн бұрын
Click bait......man, get your "Drifter ass" on some where!!
@callmejacob3234Күн бұрын
This is why I'm sticking with The Batman Saga and nothing else. Batman is the only superhero cooking right now. Well until Beyond the Spider-Verse comes out if it's coming out that is.
@spike5718Күн бұрын
With all that being said.. the latest trailer was dope
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@spike5718 Marvel’s really upped their trailer game recently.
@ericjohnson3140Күн бұрын
Ms. Marvel being a mutant is technically what the original creators wanted to do but weren’t allowed to. 🤓👆
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@ericjohnson3140 Hadn’t heard that, but I found it so awkward to force that change in now after the character had already been established. She fits into the universe as her own thing on the side, attaching her to mutants just tosses her into an already overflowing bucket
@ericjohnson314023 сағат бұрын
@@Fantagonistic Understandable.
@daedaejunior4511Күн бұрын
honestly after endgame they should’ve done dark avengers in phase four because to me it makes sense to introduce a new avengers team made by the government while every other hero is split up doing there own thing
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@daedaejunior4511 100% agree. That and Young Avengers would’ve been the smart pics to follow up Endgame in
@therealmr.incredible317910 сағат бұрын
They should’ve gone full Space phase
@rjk5377 сағат бұрын
I think they didn’t have any proper planning or preparation post endgame, they just went with the flow and whatever sticks
@kartikeygupta3958Күн бұрын
I see wht u r saying but We know what mcu needs: A crossover Event franchise: The Avengers(only the first movie was Avengers) A teenage superhero Franchise: Young Avengers(Champions are way better but they gonna adapt champion stories in the name of young avengers) A cosmic franchise: GOTG(nova corp or shear empire would have been billion times better than this) A Anti hero movie: Thunderbolts(marvel don't have a good marketable anti hero team)
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@kartikeygupta3958 I think Dark Avengers would be pretty marketable.
@mojolytical2980Күн бұрын
They’re probs secretly the dark avengers, hence the “*” at the end of the title
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@mojolytical2980 That’s what I always thought would’ve been a better title.
@auradjinns7 сағат бұрын
If that’s true, they’re pretty stupid to play coy with it and not have that name front and center in the movie’s marketing.
@FothergillMDКүн бұрын
Impressively deep cut to cite Tony's undercover 'Bolts tenure.
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
😂 Thank you!
@XX-uz2tcКүн бұрын
Only watching this movie for Red Guardian’s dad humor
@The_Infamous_BoogymanКүн бұрын
@@XX-uz2tc that's def a high point but I think it offers a lot more as well. Can't edit to see sentry, reading his origin comic was one of the few HOLY SHIT reads I've ever had
@alexpowers511712 сағат бұрын
Watching it for the enhanced strength people and sentry also Bucky arm and avenger tower I don’t even know what dad humor is
@TwoassholesКүн бұрын
Ngl a gotg movie with Eddie Brock and kitty pride would be kinda 🔥
@The_Infamous_BoogymanКүн бұрын
3:07 its yelena BOLOVA not VILLANOVA
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
It’s actually Belova, but yes I slipped an extra syllable in there accidentally.
@The_Infamous_BoogymanКүн бұрын
@Fantagonistic fair enough. Mine was spellchecker though 😂 and I'm leaving it 😉
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@ 😂 Cursed spellcheck! I don’t get that excuse 😭
@Patrick-wl6pwКүн бұрын
I agree mcu thunder bolt read comic book
@icenovice19 сағат бұрын
godzilla had a stroke reading this and died…. ….but not before binge-reading every issue of thunderbolts ever published aw yeah
@zaurauxКүн бұрын
nah it doesn't matter call teams however you want 🤷🤷
@cryingpsychoКүн бұрын
Where the fuck is the actual Thunderbolt btw? Busy turning into red hulk?
@loganr62038 сағат бұрын
Have you ever met your corporate leader? It's a similar situation. He made the team (possibly) and Val is the handler. I doubt the president would want to be seen with the team
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
Does this movie deserve to be called Thunderbolts?
@The_Infamous_BoogymanКүн бұрын
@@Fantagonistic as much as eternals or Shang chi or iron man etc get to be called by their monikers after huge changes to the source material...yeah. works for me
@darthyubnub3813Күн бұрын
No I think it’s just going to be the dark avengers
@The_VaperionКүн бұрын
@@darthyubnub3813I hope not that name is horrible
@SmadudeКүн бұрын
It deserves the asterisk
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@darthyubnub3813Agreed
@zepharcherКүн бұрын
Been loving your videos, hope your channel continues to grow!
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@PresidentsdiscordServerideasКүн бұрын
Sonic be carrying the post credits tbh
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@PresidentsdiscordServerideas They know what they’re doin!
@manleeman52122 күн бұрын
Your voice is too quiet I finally noticed it's been bothering me on several of your videos. The rest of the audio is fine but I have to max out my phone to hear you and feel like I'm gonna bust a speaker when any other audio cuts in and scares the sheet out of me.
@FantagonisticКүн бұрын
@@manleeman5212 Thanks for the feedback!
@Viftie2 күн бұрын
I think the problem isn't in the post-credit scenes themselves but rather that even nobody at Marvel seems to know what is going on next in the MCU.
@Fantagonistic2 күн бұрын
@@Viftie Yep, just a symptom of a larger problem.
@Cida_hanal2 күн бұрын
If Sony was smart, they would've made Madame Web R rated and let Sydney show some of them Sweeney's, that would at least bring people to the theaters.
@teddy_scott362 күн бұрын
What’s crazy is that I didn’t even know they were entering Phase 5 because all the previous phases ended with an Avengers movie
@MaruchYT2 күн бұрын
The Gaurdians 3 Credit scene and the Deadpool and wolverine one Reminded me of the Avengers credit scene. Where it leads to nothing and it feels special