Imagine telling Teddy Riner or even Roger Gracie that they don’t really understand grappling because they choose to wear “pyjamas” and that gi doesn’t give you a fundamental understanding of the human body etc etc. I’ve read a lot of dumb takes on the the gi vs no-gi debate over the years, but this is one of the worst.

Great snippet. The key phrase Souders states is "which is fine" -- it's just forcing the practitioner to be honest about what skills they're acquring, which carries an opporunity cost for acquring no-gi specific skills. Training no-gi is best for no-gi performance and training gi is best for gi performance. There's no implicit statement about which is better in that.

Anyone could’ve posted this. And what makes u think it was a person of color who posted it ?

It is not murder, by definition. He was defending people.

I wear a mouthguard because dental work is expensive haha. I've chipped teeth playing basketball, not worth it to me risking it.

One dude i rolled with actually after i escaped an armbar he laughed and grabbed my fingers on my right hand and snapped two fingers off. I had to call for help and it took two people to wrestle him away from me. I did not know him anytime before that day and the sparring was chill it was even like a warm up but damn. Gave me ptsd but had to stick to bjj ngl

if they’re the same size and weight, you’d have a better chance, but you’re right. Some ppl are great untrained fighters - crazy, strong, savage, etc. avoid at all costs 😅

Juicing is okay though.................

Same thing happened to me recently - sauna and rest helped me.

I think Levi's style is also going to be bad for the body. Imagine being on your spine carrying another man's weight for long periods of time. He constantly inverts placing all that pressure on the neck. I actually think that's worse than Tackett's style in terms of damage to the body. If you're on top, I think you'll have better chances of sustaining a healthy body. Judo takedowns are better for the body vs wrestling takedowns although they might not always be more effective.

Ngl id be star struck if i saw jordan somewhere too

racism is so easy to sling

Jiu-jitsu is definitely enough to defend yourself against most people, because the average person is untrained. We're probably not running into a division one college wrestler or a really good Muay Thai fighter. You can find plenty of videos of Jiu-jitsu people using Jiu-jitsu for self defense. Especially if you train at a very self defense oriented Jiu-jitsu school like Gracie Jiu-jitsu and learn and pass the Gracie Combatives curriculum, that is more than enough to defend yourself against most people for self defense.

Yes agree there should be penalties for guard pullers in competition and yes tech. Should only be 15 min totally agree.

Who the hell fights on the street???

Bullshit.

I have used his system for three years now and even black belts have trouble with my turtle game. The running man I have to clean up a bit but his stuff works.

The average male blue belt will most likely not get his ass kicked when attacked by a man with a reasonable size and strength advantage, and would fairly easily beat any other man of similar size and strength, and would have zero problem dealing with someone smaller and weaker. Not as catchy but probably more accurate.

I think this logic is flawed a bit. 1) The question isn’t can they beat 90% of people who want to fight them. It’s of all people. And 2) I don’t think it’s true that most people who want to fight on the street have a degree of training. In my (albeit limited) experience it’s the exact opposite. People who understand the ramifications of violence are the ones who go out of their way to avoid it. Just one man’s opinions.

Nice

The average person just doesn’t understand the attacks we use in bjj so if you are athletic and able to set them up yeah it’s probably a 99% success rate I’ve been in a few street fights before I started training

I disagree. A well trained jujitsu blue belt in self defense would win any fight against any street person. Most people who want to fight are ignorant to the true nature of violence against a trained person. If you guys are saying that about jujitsu it means that you have indulged your training in nothing but sport rolling and none in defense of self defense

Well i am a one stripe black belt, 41 yo and thinking seriously of stopping the sport I love after 17 years! Mainly my body can't take it and there is a solution but my life can't fit such in time! My sport doctor told me recently i need a lifting hour for each on on the mat! And that is not practical at my career stage in life! I can put in 4-5 hours of exercise maybe 6 total a week and just gets expensive, confusing and i dont get better at neither! Last AC shoulder tear was it! I have so many injuries my body is broken I am seriously thinking of stopping for good focus on lifting and cardio (normal man sports) and maybe occasional punching bag workout so i carry what is left of my body for the next years to come with minimum damage

If you live in a state where people frequently wear baggy clothing in the north, gi wrestling is absolutely useful. If you live in a tropical climate where everyone is going to sweat in a tshirt and gym shorts train no gi. They both have their applications. I live in the deep south. No gi is more realistic to a street fight for me.

Agree, no gi will be more realistic for a real fight in terms of controlling your opponent in most situation because there are punches to ur face and everything is super fast, gi will be a slow pace game that will be more complicated to actually use in a real street fight

38 and still train 6 days a week. Most days are just really light rolls though.

I feel this

I AM IN LOVE WITH YOU JORDAN. BE MINE. ❤❤❤

Some Weird instructors out there to....

Ofc a black dude created a problem not a surprise 😂

You’re probably taking the statement out of context. Do you really believe whoever came up with the 99% number thought to include women, elderly, infants, etc.?

What belt were u in BJJ here

The instructors are usually the creeps. 😂

Your mental situation in a fight is a lot more important than people realize. I feel like a lot of people who suggest things like "I've trained x years in y martial art and can beat anyone" aren't really experienced in fights, or they are thinking of mutually consensual combat like at a bar. There are people out there who are happy to take a beating just to hurt you as badly as they can, and they can be quite good at it. MMA and BJJ specific sports have deluded a lot of people to what a self-defense scenario is really like. If it was a blue belt that had only done sports BJJ, I wouldn't actually have a lot of hope for them. If they have trained in other things or did something like Gracie University, they'll actually be more prepared. Not to mention the legal consequences of breaking someone's limb when you don't need to can be quite severe, and choking someone is deadly force that will get you a felony in no time. Sure, the guy who attacked you will go to jail too. He's probably been there before and might find you again. In my opinion, the best use of BJJ is to stay off the ground so you can make sure no one is behind you and so that you can run if you land a temporarily disabling strike. "Just run" doesn't always work often either because unless you know for sure you are faster than the other guy (and don't trip or anything) you've giving up your chances at defending as you get attacked from behind, probably going face first into the concrete.

Do you think ChatGPT could help you with Jiu Jitsu?

Sounds like youre talking about Gi players

I saw a local well known Black belt BJJ instructor, try to split two large athletic looking men arguing outside a restaurant, late one evening. He grabbed the one who he thought was the main aggressor and took him to the ground, by grabbing him from behind. But unbelievably while he rolled around and gained the mounted position, the other male that he thought he was saving from a beating, kicked him straight in the head laying him out cold. Then the police suddenly arrived, thank god, or who knows what could have happened? I'm in my late 70's so couldn't do much, but it was me that phoned the police. I've seen a lot of things in my life and learnt that the worse place to be in a street fight is on your back, or rolling around the ground. But with Jujitsu that's where you are meant to be, rolling around the floor to incapacitate your opponent, but for me that's not a good thing to do, especially in a street fight. I had a friend, who has now left this world god bless him and he was in a similar situation and just knocked both men out who attacked him, basically within a few seconds of each other, which I thought was much more practical and much more safer for him than BJJ. I know by looking on KZbin, that many BJJ practitioners have called boxing, but maybe they should think again.

People that think this have never seen true violence.

No

It's not my fault your martial art doesn't work

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Brown belt for sure

I got my Jr black belt at the age of 9 for MMA and BJJ I stopped training Martial Arts at 12 I’m now 21 and I’m like a super athlete I ran a 4.36 sec 40 yard dash bench double my body weight and squat triple my body weight but on that note my body weight is 160 lbs 😂 I would lose to like any college D lineman for an example 99% is way to high probably more like 90% and even then the guy that said u COULD win doesn’t mean u WOULD win makes a great point with that

the man issue with nogi is that after a few minutes or rounds, both guys are way more sweaty and hard to grapple than an avereage street interaction would be (for the BJJ'er).

Even if you win you likely will lose because if you're an adult and have a life (assets, a job, a family etc.) quite often you'll be charged with assault, maybe injure the other person or yourself, and run the risk of being sued and have charges pressed against you by your opponent. Unless you're actually in danger you shouldn't be fighting.

I think I'd do ok if they had a gi on and didn't punch or kick me