@@stealthfirefishing yeah it sure is

@@cheskybaba4864 I am doing good. How are you? Yeah that is a great run. It is short but fast and fun. Yeah I have a bunch of footage but have not had time to make any videos. Still kayaking as much as I can.

@@JohnMoorekayak Good to hear! Nursing a mtb injury these days. No kayaking for awhile - I'm living watching your old vids and others. Ever do Fish Creek in CO? That upper part cranks!

@@cheskybaba4864 is that the one in Colorado springs? I was trying to do it this year but didn't get a chance

@@JohnMoorekayak Yes - I think it's in Steamboat Springs. Take care and be safe out there!

@@jlrobisho your welcome. Yeah it is a great run. I highly recommend it.

Yeah that make things easier and safer

Thanks you too.

Yeah the last part of the tiger creek run has that nice granite walled in feel to it.

Your welcome glade it was helpful. People have quit running double undercut. Most people go right now at the entrance to the falls. Other that that can't think of a whole lot more. Most rapids only have one or 2 ways to run them so the lines don't change a whole lot.

... footage of the course?

Your welcome. Unfortunately u don't have anymore footage. This was the only time i have been to this river.

We used to hang out on the old bridge abutment next to where you launched, one evening our friend Dave Porter went into town to gather some more friends and get some beer. Ihe came over the hill up by the canal too fast, spun out and rolled his car three times. We were dumbstruck!! Somehow no one was seriously injured.

Your welcome. That was the only time I have been there. Wish I could get there more often.

Yeah. It is always a big worry of mine. Trees are one of the most dangerous things on these runs.

@@JohnMoorekayak Like Lower Kern where chainsaw is std equipment.

Wow yeah i bet it looks totally different it'd be neat to see it without water

Okay thanks. Wasn't quite sure where the rapids started.

@@JohnMoorekayak fair enough, it took me a couple weeks before I knew which rapid was which

Your welcome. The music is the uncopyrighted free music that is offered by youtube for putting into videos. Not sure which artists I used. I will keep that in mind about not using music. Thanks again

I found a couple of kayakers at the takeout and begged them to run my shuttle with vehicle. Everything is good and I am still kayaking a bunch. I have a ton of footage but just haven't had a chance to make any videos. Nice to hear from you.

I am pretty sure we put in here 40.424539, -121.987258 I have only done the creek once and can't remember the details well. I live in WV so I am not very familiar with the area

Yeah I probably show too much. I got to do this run again last year with good flow but haven't had a chance to make a video.

Thanks. Yeah this was my first and only time down this run. Definitely felt swirly and pushy out there.

Yeah. I really didn't know what I was in for when I put on the creek that day.

It is a good way to be outdoors and meet interesting people

@JohnMoorekayak it was a joke becuase the opening base sounded like seinfeld.

@@weirdbeard1980 gotcha I never watched Seinfield so didn't get the joke.

Yeah it is a great run. I was out there last year and did a bunch of laps

Yeah it is really fun, fast, and continuous at high water levels

@@JohnMoorekayak Always wanted to run that, but never got the chance, but heck, I'm too old now. NRG was my playground for over a decade. I ran the gorge many times with the Burnedout Canoe Club, but I'm a WV resident. I really enjoy your videos. Brings many memories back.

Thanks. Shame you didnt get glade creek. I haven't done it in almost 9 months. It doesnt run much due to the 3 dams located on it. @@ronniemurphy2124

Thanks. I also thought it was a great run.

We did the run in 2 days. A lot of people will take 3 days . Yeah we have done the south merced, clavey, north mokelumme fantasy falls section, romaine river, rubicon, south fork salmon, meadow creek of the selway, selway, and some other ones I can't remember right now. I think we had one swim on this trip.

He is a strong paddler. Coyote Falls looked kind of ugly at that flow. Seemed like it would go better at higher water. Fish jump would definitely have gone. Just worried if one of us or both of us didn't make it we could lose our gear. Yeah it is a great run.

@@JohnMoorekayak Okay - yes, smart thinking.- it was just the two of you. Idaho looks like whitewater heaven.

@cheskybaba4864 yeah it is good big water. Only drawback I saw was lots of wood in some of the runs like the Secesh

Cool it is one of my favorites I never do it enough

It is a great run

I don't fish but I would think you would be able to fish it. It holds water even when it is dry.

Your welcome. I never get to do this one enough.

We did stop. I just didn't show it in the video. I think I remember kicking it loose and we got it downstream.

@@JohnMoorekayak got it. Thanks for your reply! I enjoyed the video, it gets me psyched for my sea kayak trip to Vancouver Island this December. Keep on having fun!

Yeah with some airbags and roll I think you could do it.

I made this video quite a while ago so I cant remember for sure. I use the free uncopyrighted music from you tube for my videos.

Sí, fue muy divertido. Sería mejor con un poco más de agua.

Nice. I figure you will do some fishing

@@JohnMoorekayak yep! caught 2 rainbow! that stretch is AMAZING!

@@westparkguy1104 nice. I have always heard the fishing is good there

We took out at the 200 foot waterfall. If the seven falls section is below that I did not do that section.

@@JohnMoorekayak I'm not a kayaker. I'm just trying to picture where you guys we're going down. I'm pretty sure you all ended at about a place people call that. People go to swim. If you had to march up to Milsap Bar Rd. When you ported.

​@@JohnMoorekayakI think you ended at a place people call Seven Falls is what I should of said.

@@ratrodramblin I think we took at here 39.705649, -121.244254 and hiked up to milsap bar road. This is where we putin 39.709674, -121.194512. I know there are several large waterfalls below where we took out. I did not know it was called seven falls.

@@JohnMoorekayak Ok. You guys enter by the bridge where I thought and where you take out I looked at Google maps I have a pin drop just upstream where the coordinates you gave me. Lol almost exactly the spot. Locals call it Seven Falls because of the seven waterfalls. But there are a lot of falls around there. It's all burnt up there now but that's pretty cool. There's a log laying almost vertical at one of the pools which had me realize that's where you ended up at. It was a beautiful swimming spot not a lot of people knew about but like I said it's all burnt.

Thanks

Things would be much slower at that level. If you took your time and scouted I am sure you could pick your way down

Thanks. I was using the river gauge at East Georgia, VT. I couldn't find one closer to this section of the river.

I am sure people have passed away on this section. The whole river bed is a jumble of rocks full of sieves. It is a great whitewater run except for the hazards.

Thanks. Probably, only problem would be wood.

Plus you have to hike the 5 miles up to where we put on.

Yeah it is a horrible spot

Thanks. Yeah it is big pushy fast water with long rapids. Flight simulator is a long tough rapid. Especially at higher flows than this. I would say this is easier than the north fork overall

This flow would be too high. I really wouldn't want to inner tube it at any love. Lots of sieves and undercuts to go into.

Thanks. Good luck.