You have only been diving for 7 years. How long have you been an Instructor? I guarantee both of them have more experience as an instructor than you. Your calling them arrogant. You are coming across very arrogant. Their point is you teach one skill at a time then put it all together. By the way buoyancy control is a multi step process. Regardless of the order, the bottom line is do they have all the skills at the end of the course. At the level it needs to be. I think the biggest reason we see new divers with very poor skills, they are not given enough time in the confined water to be comfortable with the equipment and skills.

… what happens when you’ve just taught a student neutral buoyancy first and then their buddies fin smacks their face? Mask off reg out… but great you maintained your NB … if you’re telling me that learning in a controlled calm environment is worse for a student than task loading them from the get go, then you can accept that it’s a difference in opinion but you’re not going to call me lazy because I’ve found more success supporting my students this way. Don’t get me wrong buoyancy is super important and my students only get a pass when they have demonstrated autonomous buoyancy control; I won’t disagree with you that it’s the MOST important skill, it is; it’s THE fundamental action… the first skill of scuba though; IS ALWAYS!!! BREATHING!

Doesnt sound like the inexperienced diver knew proper signals

who anchors in rocks hahah that skipper hates themselves

I saw that crazy video and thought. What are these people doing? It's extremely irresponsible to even show that as a fun dive.

What I found in my early training (2013) was that proper buoyancy and trim were pretty much ignored in early lessons while we learned other skills. But then it was never really taught later. You just had to get the hang of it, and the instructors themselves weren’t giving a good example as they were always on their knees too. I’d much rather have started by getting used to being flat and neutral and then learning the other skills. Because if you do lose your mask for real you won’t be on your knees at the time!

He kept lifting up the bottom of his mask to clear it. Also I think it's odd that we are trained to swim without a mask but we never have to prove we could swim with a partially flooded one.

Of course the end goal is to be a good neutrally buoyant diver. But if open water students need to expend all their focus and energy on the skill being performed or practiced, being on your knees in a pool is surely an acceptable step in progression to being able to do it whilst in trim. That’s like saying it’s not acceptable for skateboarders to learn a trick on flat ground and not moving. Perhaps they should just to it straight off from the biggest ramp they can find 🤣 My instructors did this in the pool sessions… however, when I completed my course I had a built in feeling that I should be striving for good trim and to be super mindful of corals and life underwater. Surely this education and mindset is far more important than being a perfectly trimmed trimix tec diver straight out of the womb. It’s like passing your driving test, as long as you are constantly striving to improve and know what you’re trying to achieve I don’t see this as a bad thing.

This is a Hookah system. Brownie's makes them for varying depth. They are well engineered, manufactured to high standards and safe to use with proper training. Some systems are good for 60 foot depth or more.

Thwy are not deeper than 6meters. At 6 meters your no deco limit is infinite. That is the last stop depth for any dive so no DCI. 10meters is souble pressure, from this 6m< depth lungs expansion is only 50% and in the scenario when theres a kink and someone tryes to pull air and theres none, their lungs are practically empty, lungs damage wont happen. I bet all those hoses are connected to some kind of compressor so no need for a spg because supply is infinite. But yeah, clownshow activity anyway

an over expansion injury such as an embolism, pneumothorax, mediastinal or subcutaneous emphysema is MUCH more like than the bends "DCS" unless a diver had a high residual nitrogen loading from previous dives. I am surprised to hear you say you can get the bends in 4 ft of water, you can not. You CAN have other over expansion injuries however, one of which you address. I think you have conflated the word "bends" which is DCS with the broader DCI that includes DCS and also other over expansion injuries. I would not take divers or students there, because there is no way to defend it if/when one got injured, there simply is not.

Forgot to add, the times I’ve seen it, the participants usually have snorkel vests. These units are generally 30 feet maximum length. One of the boats I was on had one diver per every four Snuba participants. Listening to their briefing, they had a weight belt drop exercise and were told not to hold their breath. They had a “dive plan” but it really wasn’t anything I would call a plan.

You sound incredibly supercilious and pompus. If you need me to define that for you let me know. In regards to this subject, things are not as cut and dry as you make them out to be. I find it ironic that you are slinging insults and acting superior to these individuals while they are saying people with your philosophy, do just that, and here you are proving their point. Saying that they are lazy because they are teaching to the students needs says more about you then them. They are not saying to instruct on your knees, they are saying that they make that decision based on the evaluation of the students comfort level and needs. Clearly you are not a waterman if you have never touched the bottom. I dive, surf, freedive, spearfish, lobster hunt, offshore fish and more. The ocean has been apart of my life since my beginning. You can't avoid touching the bottom while spearfishing, definitely not while hunting lobster. During my OW, 35 years ago, I couldn't imagine having to do those skills while worrying about staying in trim and with perfect bouncy. It is a false argument that learning these skills on your knees makes a bad diver. That's an insult to all the divers that came before you. The only way to master these skills is to actually dive. You keep using the training agencies to validate your argument but that same agency allows a jr diver to become a jr master diver after only 20 dives. This is why we have so many big heads in our sport. They fast track to dive master or insteuctor with minimal dives under their belts but that certification makes them feel like they're an epert. I'd feel more comfortable diving with someone that has an OW with a 1,000 dives than a DM or an instructor with 100 dives. I'm not saying we should be teaching on our knees. In fact, i think the skills should be performed while neutrally bouyant but some students that are having a very hard time may need to be on their knees to focus on performing the skills Showing some humility would go a long way.

This setup is really daft . If someone knocked that hose out their mouth. Or tangled up hose . Yeah don't do this.

I am testing new equipment at night dives at 30 m deep 😂😂😂

Please do some fresh water dive videos ?

That hose kink is the most Final Destination thing I've seen in a while lol.

That’s a hookah setup. Also called Snuba (snorkel + Scuba). There is a compressor on a raft above. The depth is limited to the length of the hose which is about 6 m. This limits the risks of DCS, but not DCI. Quite often these operations don’t ask for Scuba certifications. That’s the attraction for many people, because you don’t know what you don’t know.

similar korean dive fisherman 😅

10.000 dives🤔

The point that James was making was two-fold: First: The overwhelming vast majority of [so called] "instructors" out there lie and cheat their students when it comes to meeting even the garbage, bare-minimum, bottom-of-the-barrel training standards of their agency (you can guess at which agency(s) is(are) the absolute worst here, and who has the lowest, trash standards of them all). Second: The dive industry as a whole has taken a complete nose-dive over the decades in terms of training standards, and today, the world is filled to the ever-living hilt with the highest number of the worst trained and educated divers. His thesis is that standards should be increased, and I 110% agree with that assessment. And to the "standards" part mentioned at the beginning of the video... To Start: NAUI ALSO openly publishes course standards directly on the website without any requirement for creating an account, logging in, or any data collection prerequisites. Next: The "Standards" for NAUI are the MINIMUM standards, and state what at a bare-minimum MUST be taught. However, a major difference with NAUI is that: FIRST: NAUI STRONGLY encourages NAUI instructors to EXCEED standards. NAUI instructors are FULLY authorized to add additional requirements to standards (you just can not take away from the standards) so long as those additions are in-line with the course content. SECOND: NAUI instructors are all granted ACADEMIC FREEDOM, and are FULLY authorized to teach all courses in any manner that meets or exceeds the set standards. The reason for being granted academic freedom is, unlike other agencies, the average NAUI instructor course is far longer than any other agency instructor course (for a wide range of reasons). Our qualification course is treated more like a long internship and mentorship program, lasting typically 6 to 18 months, with a very strong focus on learning psychology, methods and principles of instruction, curriculum development, and more. We don't qualify instructors in a single week, and ALL NAUI instructors are standardized in their KSA requirements.

11:28 I think it's not an excuse to ignore a diver. I doubt it that either of both has their solo diving specialty. That double tank diver wouldn't see me again in his life. He's so arrogant and rude. His diving license should be suspended completely. I think the head of my diving school would have taken away his license in any case if it were his student.

I have a Zeagle reg set and it's good, quality gear. This guy is so bad at following safety practices, it's highly likely that he doesn't care for or have his reg serviced on a timely basis.

I used Zeagle for my AOW open water portion of the dive. It breathed like a wet towel in snow storm, otherwise an excellent choice 👍

Sorry, but your mike is shiate maete, and makes your accent impossible to understand.

It's very obvious this guy is in no way trained and qualified for a dive below 40m, and never should have been that deep in the first place. Single tank setup with a tiny pony, and his reaction to the emergency? In no way. He's not a technical diver, and not trained or qualified. Further, a failure is 100% avoidable with proper inspections and checks performed during equipment setup, and proper maintenance and care performed on equipment. It doesn't matter whether it's DIN or Yoke. This guy clearly doesn't know/do any of that. Combine those aspects with his past behavior, and his demonstrated mentality in the video, he has absolutely no business diving as a whole, let alone violating recreational limitations. I'm willing to bet he's a PADI diver.

My first stage blew up at 97' in Cozumel towards the end of the dive. I was probably at 700 PSI. I thumbed the dive with my buddy (and wife) and we did an expedited accent. At around 20' I was out of gas. No deco obligation but, out an an abundance of caution, we did a safety stop at 15' with me on my wife's octo. I had just had my entire rig serviced prior to the trip. I discovered, after the fact, that the tech who serviced my rig wasn't qualified to service my first stage. We had words.

I don't think DIN is more reliable than Yoke. Most new regulators are made in DIN and yoke. So the internals are both made for HP cylinders. I believe the impression of yoke not being as good is from divers using Yoke regulators on HP (3442 psi) cylinders. Above 3000psi you should be using DIN regulators. Reliability largely comes down to maintenance. If using a yoke regulator make sure the O-Ring on the valve face is in good shape and replaced often. And the mating surface on the regulator is in good shape. DIN has it's own set of issues. The threads and matting surface in the cylinder valve need to be protected from damage and corrosion. The O-Ring on the DIN regulator needs to be checked and cleaned. Particulates can get under that O-Ring and cause sealing problems. Bottom line Yoke is fine at 3000 psi and below. Above 3000 psi use DIN. And service your equipment !

I did notice he was diving what appeared to be a larger steel cylinder. That is likely a HP cylinder. If so, you should be using a DIN regulator for the higher pressure. Was his regulator internals even designed for higher pressure, some older regulators are not. I believe you mentioned that this person had regulator failures in other videos. Is that correct? If so, that is a strong indicator he is not properly servicing his equipment or using a regulator not designed for higher pressure.

You are a good teacher !! I will share your video on my channel 😍Various strange behaviors committed for the sake of SNS views Driving DPVs and going up and down and changing the depth of the water is also common in Korea (DPVs are for maintaining depth, not for the purpose of ascending) Even in shallow water, a sudden change in depth can cause DCS When entering the water from a boat, carrying a tank and Dumbling is honestly like a crazy person (No matter how much you check the surface, if the diver who entered first suddenly ascends, his head will break) etc. It's refreshing to see the dangerous elements that make it seem like scuba diving is a joke in the Celestial Empire

i using 12kg santi emotion+ fourth halo3d when winter season salt water. 19kg? omg 😵‍💫If had pulled the bc hose and inflated the drysuit, she would have lived.This is very easy. Did the victim pay for the training? Or was it just a fun dive? She went there to get the training and died on the way.

He is lucky guy😊thats why need to change din is best choise

The enviro seal seems to be missing, it looks like an older DS-V first stage (balanced diaphram). So if the enviro seal went, the diaphram has had a castrophic failure, I'd say the service history is pretty sketchy for that to happen.

Spearfishing with scuba equipment is NOT illegal in Florida. However, there are some species that may not be speared.

We do deco dives all the time on regular air, trivia is just too expensive for most divers. It's totally normal and not the issue here. This dude you're reacting to is just the typical uneducated idi@t diving way beyond his means, with the wrong equipment and no deco planning

Definitely prefer DIN! That seems like a very small pony for the depth he was at, also didn't look like he planned very well for the dive in terms of redundancies for it being a solo dive

You say he is "smart" to recognize the need to slow the ascent. But, you need to keep in mind where he is and how much he's got. 13cuft is about 368L. So, at 20L/min SAC (which is probably rather low in a situation like that), average depth 27m, so 3.7bar, we're looking at just shy of 5 minutes gas time. If he breathes a bit heavier than that because of the shock or because that is how he is, then he doesn't even have those 5 minutes. 55m to surface at 10m/min takes 5 minutes 30 seconds ... Now had he been in deco, what was his exit strategy? ps. DIN all the way, though the failure is independent of DIN or yoke.

I disagree, to get initially comfortable, in BSAC, we learnt on our knees in the pool, and not on knees in the pool as well then in the ocean using buoyancy. It has its place early on. My training was back in the mid 1990's, and having done hundreds of dives since, it was a reasonable initial grounding before taking the leap of doing skills in mid water. People are initially uncoordinated when learning and doing skills when stable builds initial confidence, which you then progress from. This is a good thing, and you can then replicate those skills when buoyant.

14:36 why is his back up like that?

5:08 buoyancy is more keeping in your lane while driving a car.... get it wrong, very bad things happen. A flooded mask is like changing gear. You can get along in first gear, but it won't be fun.

I never understood why they teach on their knees for example I have lower back pain and issues with my knee from combat deployment. It was difficult, but I had to do it to pass the class even though you’ll never do that again PADI needs to get away from that and so does the other agencies.

DCS should not be an issue at all, as it`s shallow. You simply don`t have a high N² load on this dive. You wouldn`t be that stupid and do that with a high load. But all the pressure related injuries - puh. Barotrauma, lung overexpansion, gas embolism, etc. I`d say that`s a great way to fxxk up your ear & sinus, as many rapid pressure changes favor all the injuries there. Go from about 2 bar to 1bar and back within seconds is a great idea for blocks and reverse blocks, barotraumas and so on.

Naked Tom?

Have people forgotten what it was like their first few pool sessions? If someone is at such low skills they need to learn to clear a mask or recover a lost reg they also don't have the skills to load tasks like buoyancy *And* reg recovery. When you learn any completely new skill (whatever it is) you build it up gradually in layers. Of course people need to do everything in neutral buoyancy but you're forgetting just how basic open water (and equivalent) is!

Worth noting that zinc oxide and titanium dioxide aren't really "safe" for corals either depending on formulation. They dont always say that they are nanoparticles even when they are.

I think ill react to your reaction lol

I can't believe those two clowns. Although I only understood a third of what you said. Where is that accent from?

Teaching new divers on their knees is, by far, the absolute worst thing you can do to them. It ruins them for life by instilling their primacy into that position, which will manifest itself in countless ways for the rest of their diving lifetime, and in some cases, could put them in danger or lead to a preventable accident. It is the stupidest thing a [so called] "instructor" can do. What should be done, day on, very first time in the water, is teaching them to be in, and stay in, a horizontal trim position, and immediately begin development of neutral from day one. By the time they finish their open water course, your students should be quite good at remaining neutral and in correct trim. If not, that's not a reflection of them, it's a reflection of the instructor. And to answer the question at 3:00 in, yes, NAUI -- the world-leader in training standards -- says neutral from the start. However, it's not JUST "neutral". It must be "neutral" and in "correct horizontal trim position", which is just as vitally important. At 3:45, YES, it IS indeed about Primacy. This is a seriously long conversation, but an understanding of learning psychology, and methods and principles of instruction are the vital to understanding this (and honestly what separates real educators versus glorified check-list readers [aka, "instructors"].

Did you recommend the DM have the out of control diver hold on to the D-rings on the DM’s BCD so he could deploy his DSMB? I was going to say that would be the last thing I would do but in reality I would never do that to an out of control diver. The DM let go of the diver so he could do his 15 foot safety stop. If you moved into a position to have the out of control diver holding on to you from in front, that defeats the entire approach from behind training and rationale. The diver most likely wouldn’t have let go, the DM would have ridden to the surface with him and then potentially both get a DCS hit.

I blame the split fins