How would you evaluate the credibility of Alan W. Geen's exploration of John Dee's "encoding" of Shakespeare texts & the funeral inscriptions. Should I invest my time in this? This is the sincere question to benefit from your knowledge. This is the anxious explanation for the question. I get sweaty palms when I hear that the exact ratio of the Great Pyramid is to be found in various combination of words/letters/page mis-numbers. I believe the same ratio can be found in my great-grandmother's teapot, but only if you divide the Mayan calendar by the Assyrian sacred text "Ino no whati rot." As a new subscriber, am I allowed to ask questions like this? I'm a Canadian so I will say sorry in advance. Make that sorry x two ...

Stripped naked by Pirates. Similar theme to the count of Monte Cristo. Naked on the beech is a common theme during the rebirth of the boy in to manhood. It also often involves making love to a beautiful girl. Shipwrecked and reborn. Intimacy in isolation. What does it all mean ? Never mind that. Surrender to the experience and reach the foreign shore. For in loosing that we gain this. Edward. OR De Ward. The adopted son.

For in that sleep of death what dreams may come. Those who would know life must first experience death and return. The last enemy and dearest of friends. Disguised as a man but in fact a woman of astonishing beauty. I have seen her and in seeing her my heart was pierced by a love so pure, so eternal, so familiar. I have fought with her. I have died defending her. I have lived countless lives under her banner as friend and fellow warrior. All in truth know her. All in truth will see her and all who abide in her world know that death is a blessing and release. Courage born of devotion, free of fear and joy in every reunion. My Queen. Fearless and brave as any man.

There is a common thread, a golden thread that seems to get only summary treatment by most. But to those who KNOW the white Queen and love her, there is a vital transcendent sub text to this drama. Minerva, Athena, Brittania. She has many names. The lady of the lake. No man who has seen her remains unchanged by her beauty. Her hair a vibrant Rose gold in colour. The Bards all speak of her with a reverence that is absolutely real. It is not imagined. She is a real person. More importantly she represents and lives as a true warrior Queen. She is both revered and feared by her enemies. If you need a recent description of her she is Galadriel. Have I met her ? Yes. I have known her for a very long time. She is and has always been the constant in the life and legends of England. The true and everlasting, immortal White Goddess. Highly recomend the book by Robert Graves. An excellent primer in the code language of the Bards.

What a loss. Rarely in my life have I listened to a man and thought here in humility lies greatness. True nobility of soul is a rare experience in life. Alexander was, for me, a gentleman in the truest sense of the word. He reminded me of my dearest friend and mentor. His mind sparkled with wit and authentic joy. He was every inch all that he saw in De Vere and communicated so eloquently to us. Thank you Alexander and I look forward to meeting you again on the other side of the bridge.

Thank you so much for drawing all this information together. I find myself inundated by waves of gratitude. Are you planning to put this into a book? If so, let me know and I will buy copies and give them for Christmas gifts to my friends and relations. You are amazing. It takes a certain kind of genius to ferret out all these details, and to put them into a coherent whole. I wish you a long and successful career as a researcher/writer/presenter of such important knowledge, and if there is ever any assistance I can offer, let me know. Unfortunately I am several years older than you, and based on my life experience there is only one kindness I would request of you. Please slow down the speed of your reading. Your material is so exciting that it needs more time to be absorbed. Sometimes I missed entire phrases that were run together so quickly that they comprised a single word. Your work shows the best scholarship, and the best grasp of significance, and the most enlightened organization: it also deserves the best presenter. I grew up a very long time ago when a large part of our lessons involved standing before the class and reading aloud. By the time I completed grade eight, I could make a grocery list sound like a mystery novel. That is what you are doing- telling the world one of the greatest mystery stories extant. Forgive me for being so bold, but I ask you most humbly to pretend you are Judi Dench, or Emma Thompson, and transfix us with your information. I want to look forward to your postings or many years to come. Thank you for being you. Karen Serafin c

Mr. Waugh was an exceptional scholar who meticulously analyzed both books and sonnets related to Shakespeare. His work included a thorough examination of the mathematical relationships between verses, as well as the hidden numbers and symbols embedded within those literary pieces. It is remarkable how he explored the connections between these writings and nature’s golden ratio, even going so far as to digitally animate these concepts in his videos. In my view, he exemplified the qualities of a true natural philosopher. Nature's footprints can even be observed in the magnetic and dielectric fields. I regret not having had the chance to engage in discussions on his KZbin channel. 🙏

Your knowledge about Edward deVere creates intellectual ripples that lead me back to my university days, when I was much taken by Jacobean tragedy, Webster in particular. To explore Edward de Vere/s life & accomplishments intrigues me with the whole "generation" of creative writers in Elizabethan/Jacobean England, & particularly the relationship of "free" speech to political dictates, & the establishment fear of how "words" might turn into "actions" - particularly with the Trumpster's personally declared war on journalists as "enemies of the people." Is the chopping block next? Thank you for using your intellect to "fire up" the intellect of others!

I came upon your channel quite by chance and found this presentation most interesting. I cannot but admire the time and effort you put in to researching and presenting your video to augment the anti-Shakespeare conspiracy theory. I wholeheartedly agree that “promoting or suppressing the authorship question” was definitely not “high on the list of concerns” of the 18th century Wits. In fact, I am pretty sure it was on no one’s list since no one disputed Shakespeare’s authorship until 240 years after his death. It is only since the mid-19th century that obscure carvings on statuary, arcane codes and impenetrable anagrams have been deciphered that challenge Shakespeare’s authorship. They not only reveal that Edward De Vere is the true author but also Francis Bacon, Christopher Marlowe, Aemelia Lanyer, Queen Elizabeth, and King James. Just about anybody in the Elizabethan/Jacobean era who could hold a quill pen must have written those plays, poems and sonnets. Anybody, of course except William Shakespeare. No evidence has ever been produced that seriously challenges Shakespeare's authorship; although tons of doubt has been manufactured. There are no documents that challenge Shakespeare’s authorship from his contemporaries. We do have Robert Greene’s (or somebody posing as him) bitter “Groats-worth of Wit,” attacking “Shake-scene” with his “Tiger's heart wrapped in a Players hide.” Also there is Ben Jonson who “did love the man and honour his memory this side of idolatry” but, nonetheless offered a left-handed compliment that Shakespeare “in his writing, whatsoever he penned, he never blotted out a line. My answer hath been, 'Would he had blotted a thousand,’” because Shakespeare “had an excellent fantasy, brave notions, and gentle expressions, wherein he flowed with that facility that sometimes it was necessary he should be stopped.” Both the Lord Oxford and the author/poet Shakespeare had enough rivals and (in De Vere’s case) enemies to explode any imposture. De Vere had a knack for making enemies. When De Vere’s wife died, there were more than 40 memorial poems composed to her-but none by her husband. The seventeenth Earl of Oxford, evidently, could not even be bothered to attend her funeral in Westminster Abbey. One of the memorial poems referred to her as “another Grissel for her patience,” inferring that she suffered patiently the neglect and abuse of her husband. While on the subject of neglect, within two months of his wife’s death, De Vere abandoned his command at Harwich (remember the Spanish Armada?). His commander, the Earl of Leicester, wrote to Sir Francis Walsingham, principal secretary to Queen Elizabeth I (Secretary of State): “I am glad I am rid of my Lord Oxford, seeing he refuseth this & I pray you let me not be pressed any more for him what suit so ever he make.” (edited for clarity). I like the fact that you squeezed in Donald Trump into your presentation. In this age of conspiracy theories and distrust of scholarship and science, Trump is the perfect avatar for Edward De Vere and the Oxfordian obsession. What was once a harmless preoccupation of a few literary eccentrics has now become a source of legitimacy for willful ignorance, snobbery and classism, and social regression.

PS As a loyal and alert English speaking Roman Catholic, Elizabeth and what followed were deadly to the Church, the monasteries, the sacred liturgy, and [excuse me Protestants] Holy Writ, with the 'Authorized Version.'

Fascinating facts & interpretations. Never knew Ben Jonson was such a "dangerous" pen. Going back to his works & the life that made them possible. Many thanks!

Phenomenally wrong.

You are nuts!

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Sweet! "The Stratfordian Authorship Myth." That's the first time I've heard that stated with such conviction. You rock, Phoebe!

Congrats Phoebe on your passionate and painstaking research, and for ever forging new grounds in the SAQ. If you carry on like this, the world at large will soon have to accept that Oxford was Shakespeare! About the presentation, I am divided between your position and Alexander Waugh's. Although admitting, as you say, that it's impossible for all freemasons in England to be in on the plot to perpetuate the Stratford myth (even if prominent freemasons may have behind the secret reburial of de Vere in Poet's Corner) the machinations of this secret society manifest themselves wherever politics and culture intersect, often across many generations. As Waugh suggests, it's not inconceivable that Oxford was attracted to freemasonry in his youth and may even have been recruited to their ranks through the arch ocultist, John Dee. But given Oxford's character and beliefs, he would have soon realized their true purpose and promptly left the society. When this happens, freemasons do everything in their power, according to their sacred oaths, to destroy the late brother's life and reputation. This I speculate may have been a possible motive for the 18th Century wits' systematic and deliberate promotion of the Stratford myth, albeit centuries after de Vere's "apostasy", besides the anti-Walpole sentiment which you analyze here. I believe that Robert Cecil's work in erasing Oxford's legacy was coninued by these people who would have gladly favoured a worthless member of the "hoi poloi" to one of their own "class" if the latter went against their agenda, the opposite of everything which de Vere stood for.

I’m really tired of this stupid argument. Far more geniuses have arisen from the “lower classes” than the upper…too much inbreeding.

While I think there are some sound observations here my own experience and research suggests that Alexander Waugh had the best handle on the code language then in use and still used to this day. But not wanting to deprive others of the joy of discovery, he did not share all he knew. That is not a criticism but a sincere compliment. The beauty and depth of the priest kings code language has, to be fully grasped, combined with profound experience. Until one has confronted death and returned, it is not possible to make the leap. The authentic initiations of the Rosicrucian order I have been through but sadly Masonry has debased and corrupted them. Much confusion has resulted. The breaking of the leg and suspension upside down by a rope is both metaphor and truth. The hanged man.

You're fabulous ! Well done !

I'd like to hear much more to negate the argument that De Vere died before some of the plays were written.

On Terentius Lucanus, what evidence is there that he used his 25 year old slave as a front for his own works?

Thanks for another well-presented video. As usual, you are always informative and fun to watch. It would have to be Freemasons who would promote the myth knowing it was a myth and nothing more. I believe that de Vere was one of the founders of the English Rosicrucian movement, if not a leader. There are a lot of clues to that effect, including the odd fact that when Anthony Sayers, the first Grandmaster of the Premier Grand Lodge of England (founded in 1717... go figure), died in 1741, his funeral procession began at Shakespeare's Head Tavern. Masons don't do anything which isn't steeped in some symbolism, so it is safe to assume that the location for the beginning of the procession hints that de Vere (aka Shakespeare) was a Mason. It is known that William Herbert, the 3rd Earl of Pembroke was an early Grandmaster of the Freemasons, according to at least one Masonic history website.

Wow, Phoebe: Claiming that going after Walpole that some artists did is like artists going after Trump in 2016. Not even close as Trump was and is the rebel. I sure hope you are not stupid enough to buy into the anti-Trump silliness. If anything, Trump is more of an Oxfordian than Stratfordian. Deal with it instead of trying to take a cheap shot at Trump and how Hollywood woketards and fellow travelers tried and try to stop him. Hollywood and fellow travelers are all about supporting Government and suppressing the truth like those did and do regarding Oxford. Moreover, Hollywood does not have the talent it used to have. A shame you made a lame analogy, and saying it might not be a good one is also lame as it is also a stupid one.

Computer analysis states shakespear wrote the plays and definitely not the Earl of Oxford Marlow appears to co author of the Henry 4 plays. Also many of shakespears play were not original they were based on other plays and well know stories

What’s even more intriguing is the recent discovery of a new play - the plot centers around a group of sommeliers who spent a lot of time and energy arguing over the bottle a wine came in. The upshot? Most reasonable people agreed that they would rather just taste the wine.

Shakespeare was educated to a very high level at the Stratford Grammar School, a 'classical education' in the Latin and Greek authors 'greats' in advanced maths and many other disciplines which today are only taught at university level. . He only needed to be in London for the theatrical season and so lived in various lodgings or short leasings until he settled with his brother Edmund in Southwark, where the Globe and other theatres were based. He wrote his works in Stratford and there is no basis for claiming he neglected his wife and children. Edmund had important status in the parish of St Saviour's (now the Cathedral) and was both a Trustee of the church corporation and the local Grammar School. Another local personage who actually endowed a set of Almshouses in the parish was Edward Alleyn, William's colleague at the Globe. The contemporary monument in the Stratford parish church is original- the sketch often reproduced to indicate differences or additions was simply inaccurate. Let us say that it was accurate and their were alterations. Why no mention or indication therefore of William being a 'player' on it? Because 'players' were regarded as not quite of the status of gentlemen or indeed burgess tradesmen. Another local worthy was one Robert Harvard, a meat dealer and haulier and also another Trustee and governor of the school. He married one Katherine Rogers who was from Stratford, her father was a fellow burgess of the town with, John, the father of the Shakespeares. They clearly made a match and among their children was the famous John Harvard who was the first benefactor of the Boston university named after him.

Irreplaceable 😢🙏🏻 RIP

Great job, young lady! Thumbs up 👍

This is wonderful, thank you! I think you make an excellent case here, and as you say, the extent to which Oxford would have become a 'mascot' for a future political cause is truly disappointing, particularly during a period when it might have been much more apropos to begin to celebrate his literary genius much more openly. Instead, we're currently still left with this most frustrating situation in which so many of us know full well the truth of the matter, yet the world at large continues to celebrate (and mis-educate) the most egregious of fictions. Perhaps it's most ironic in our age, with its pretence of cautions against 'fake news'. If fake news is bad, then what shall we make of fake history? In any case, this is a brilliant presentation, cheers!

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Why don't we consider the fact that Shakespeare was also a dark dude with a lot of moral issues. Don't you think this may also be why they direct the attention to this nothing man of Avon?

Shakespeare was in a bit of an eclipse during the 18th century and that is probably why my favorite composer George Frederick Handel never wrote background music for any of Shakespeare's plays nor used any of Shakespeare's plots for his operas. Fast forward to the mid 19th century when we have Mendelsohn composing his glorious music for a German production of "A Mid summer night's Dream" which. of course, contains the most famous wedding march of all time -except for the Bridal march in Wagner's "Lohengrin" (Here comes the bride."

That was fantastic. I think you have opened the door to another vast castle that I need to explore here, Phoebe. 30 volumes you say? Best get started!

Call me a blind man. But de Vere's portrait contains a concealed face behind his head, hidden within the feathered finery. Perhaps Apollo?

Thank you for matching Wits, Phoebe. Love your work....

interesting as always. No reference to the Oxford Link of 1740 though- was the date purely coincidental? No mention of the misquoted text or the other similar monument at Wilton House - is there a link? Alexander Waugh's video 'The Wilton House Shakespeare Monument - Its Mysteries Revealed!' is worth a look especially the DeVere familiar connection as well as that of First Folio patronage - is there a cross over here with 'the Wits'? I note too that the sarcophagus shape referred to on Burlington House also appears as nameplates in the Temple of British Worthies emphasising the Freemason connection and suggesting their involvement. Thanks for producing the video and your continued enthusiasm for the subject. Each time a little more is revealed.

Alexander Waugh's argument is much better.

I'd add one more frame to your two frames of references for an underlying motivation to obscure Shakespeare as a penname for Oxford: the Prince Tudor theory. That is that Henry Wriothesley is the child of Elizabeth and Oxford. Certainly, they wanted to obscure portrayals of court personages and what that might reveal about Elizabeth's reign; however the motive was not revenge, but the identity of Wriothesley as the rightful heir to Elizabeth, not James. Those motivations are political and about retaining power court figures felt would be lost under Wriothesley.

Brilliant. You are quite the researcher. Alexander, I am certain, is proud of you. He needs time to rest but prepare yourself. You just may one day channel his ideas. He never struck me as the kind of soul who would let anything-anything-stop him because Vero Nihil Verius. Nothing, not even death.

Your argument and conclusion make more sense to me, Phoebe. Too easy to get lost down the rabbit hole and forget practical, common sense. Good work.

Nothing but respect and affection for such a well-ordered and beautiful mind. Well done.

Phoebe, you are amongst the few KZbin content creators that I genuinely esteem. Thank you for all of your noteworthy efforts in conveying the Shakespeare Authourship Question into 2025.

Phoebe … Looking forward to your presentation 🎉🎉🎉

DeVere has featured in my research also, although i like to think he was part of something larger than just "who wrote Shakespeare" Trail of the Green man, my website or youtube channel features a video regarding the authorship of the Sonnets, although its without context if taken alone. I enjoyed very much your video thanks for sharing.

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Phoebe, the contradiction between Ben Jonson being James' official poet and a "friend" of Guy Fawkes disappears if the gunpowder plot was actually a false flag engineered by Robert Cecil to demonize the Catholic opposition to James and solidify his power with the new monarch. Jonson may simply have been a double agent (like OBL working for the CIA and Saudi enemies of the US at the same time). I don't trust Jonson nor do I see him as loyal to de Vere. He was extremely cunning and duplicitous and such people ally themselves to the Cecils of this world rather than the Oxfords. Also, why would he insert deliberately misleading references to the Stratford man in the First Folio if he is the Horatio character charged with protecting De Vere's reputation? The way he flatters De Vere sounds more like damning praise or pathological jealousy rather than genuine love for Shakespeare. Then there's the "accidental" office fire that destroyed the Shakespeare manuscripts. This seems to have been more of a favour to Cecil and James than to de Vere, if you ask me. I hold Jonson and Robert Cecil primarily responsible for the authorship hoax. As for Jonson wanting to be buried vertically and upside down, I interpret it as symbolic of damnation, like he is pointing down to hell than up to heaven.

Love your work, Phoebe and Bob....bless.

Propaganda that elevates, protects, and promotes the upper classes of England, much like we see in this day and age.

I am impressed. The case for Oxford was settled years ago, but they keep selling books and making money off the pseudo debate. Why the cover up has lingered for a very long time. Thank you for this brilliant essay.

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