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@jeroennouwens9972
@jeroennouwens9972 4 күн бұрын
In case you're still wondering why Henry Evans killed his monkey: He gave you the pocketwatch. He understands how it works. So he killed the monkey, took its paw (also a reference to the monkey's paw, which grants wishes but makes them turn out worse, kind of like a bargain you don't want...), and therefore had a way to see what happened in the lazarette. Also in the death scene of Renfred Rajub in the doctor's office, the briefcase with the pocketwatch is actually below the bed.
@ndujamisu
@ndujamisu 10 күн бұрын
Hey, I've just discovered your channel and I'm loving your playthroughs! The reason why we know "Darkhand steward" hired Ada Baker to poison Cloudsley is encoded in the letter she carries: in her room, we found a note saying "Remember to take the fourth one from ebery row", we also find a book about secret codes. With this information, we can extract the hidden message from the letter: "Use substance to remove target sincerely dark hand steward"
@cecewho
@cecewho 6 күн бұрын
Oh waoh! Never linked this together 😅 thank you for your kind words! Hope you will enjoy the other videos as well 😊
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink Ай бұрын
I think the translation of the name is done by something like google translate 😅 So, "slagboom" (also called a "sluitboom" or "grensboom" sometimes and very occasionally shortened to just "boom") is a specific thing that in English is also called a boom barrier (the boom bit is a loanword that English took from Dutch which is why it's so similar), it's the thing that opens and closes at for example a train track crossing, a single beam of wood, or metal these days, that is meant to stop vehicles from crossing or entering places. It used to be a single straight tree (not too thick) that could swing open (sometimes horizontally, sometimes vertically), hence the "boom" (tree) part of the word. I suspect someone who didn't really understand Dutch (or maybe English) put the word "slag" through google translate, and ended up with warp somehow. "Slag" can mean a lot of things, strike, hit, type, sort, battle, etc and it's also used in a lot of expressions where the meaning of the word is different every time. In the case of "slagboom", it refers to the motion, as in, it swings up and down, like a hammer strike. "Sluit" means close, so that makes "sluitboom" a piece of wood used to close something, similar to a door, and when placed at a border (between countries, cities, farmland etc) it's referred to as a "grensboom" because "grens" means border. So "boom" can mean both tree and road barrier/boom barrier in certain contexts, and as a name could refer to "from/of the tree" or "from/of the road barrier". In the latter case it could refer to someone who works or lives at a place with a road barrier in the form of a "slagboom", so something like a toll road is an option, maybe. (Ten Boom means at the tree, because "te/ten" is the old fashioned word for at.) So while technically yes, the name could refer to boom barriers/road barriers, it's less likely than the topographical name, those are very common in the Netherlands, mine is too. It's more likely just to refer to a tree or woods than anything else. Anyway, all of this to say, sadly, the name isn't related to any kind of light beam or warp beam or anything. 😁 No connection to the white light from the mill. William and Aldous are called James's uncles in the game, we don't know who James's parents were. So the heart was from the uncle. The elixer had as a warning/description that it will bring sudden death or eternal life. You can take that to mean many things, for example, if it works it will bring eternal life, but if you make a mistake it's death. And I assume James thought something like that, but you can also take that to mean, it will bring death half the time, and eternal life the other half of the time, or it will bring life and then death, and then life again, etc in a cycle. James died immediately, but the dog didn't... Emma's letter can be interpreted as a goodbye, to her son but also the rest of the family, since she thinks Frank is dead she might also just have written the letter as a personal kind of ritual, like a prayer. Many people talk or write to their dead family members in some way. 😊 There are two people there when Emma is painting, Emma herself, and you as the player...
@cecewho
@cecewho Ай бұрын
Ooh this is so much great information, thank you! 🤗 so interesting! I am a bit sad about the warp beam not being one but I will recover 😁 collecting all the clues about who we are...but keeping quiet about it 🤫 this is one of the main mysteries for this Roots game! 😁
@jazzy-wc2tm
@jazzy-wc2tm Ай бұрын
One thing i love about how you play is that you cross check the timeline, like when there are events at the hotel or other parts of the family tree, and you keep so much lore detail in mind! I think it makes for a richer experience for you! You're seeing a lot more of the story and the layers and references to other games that most people don't on a first playthrough. 💖 Also your analysis of the characters' faces to determine genetics is amazing! Can I share my opinion on how I think the Vanderboom brothers' connection to the family works? Also yes Harvey is certainly seeing a wide range of the Rusty Lake timeline, very long lived! And poor Mary, did she have any idea what insane things would come about from marrying James 😩 did you notice how young the triplets were when James died? This poor family, getting sacrificed all over the place
@cecewho
@cecewho Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind message Jazzy! Sure, you can always share ideas and opinions if they are not spoilers 🤗
@jazzy-wc2tm
@jazzy-wc2tm Ай бұрын
@@cecewho I can't remember if you've been given his name yet or not but the one you're analyzing as looking like Mr Crow might be James's father! As far I can tell, the letter to James at the beginning telling him about his dead uncle isn't signed, but it might be from the other Vanderboom brother. Since we don't see any other brothers or sisters to the two Vanderboom brothers, I'm assuming that that one is James's dad. Although the idea that there's another secret sibling who's not depicted in the house is so funny, like maybe James rejected his parents and only likes his uncles or smth 😆
@cecewho
@cecewho Ай бұрын
@jazzy-wc2tm I like that! And it fits with my genetics theory! 😁 Let's see if we can confirm this somehow! (Or maybe indeed there was another "Frank" situation at the time of the Vanderboom brothers as well 🤭)
@jazzy-wc2tm
@jazzy-wc2tm Ай бұрын
@@cecewho another frank situation 😭 this family keeps mysteriously losing people down wells 😂
@Hymneth
@Hymneth Ай бұрын
Albert is simultaneously a fan favorite character and one of the nastiest people in the series. It's interesting that his first ever foray into alchemy was to make a homonculus of him and the woman of his obsession
@cecewho
@cecewho Ай бұрын
Knowing this game, I at least know there is some payback coming his way! 😅
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink 2 ай бұрын
Vanderboom, or properly spelled Van der Boom in Dutch, means of/from the tree. So a pretty deterministic name. 😁 And how it connects to other games, you already made the connection between Mr Crow and Aldous Vanderboom. There are more, which I'm sure you'll see once you finish. 😊The Vanderboom family is pretty central to the whole story, well, some of them, anyway.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw the name I googled it and found that out as well! I remembered your message 😁 Indeed, I cannot wait to see how this family overlaps with the remaining characters!
@Hymneth
@Hymneth 2 ай бұрын
Another great episode. You picked up on the flower puzzle much faster than I did the first time 😅
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Oh I edited a bunch of trials and errors because I did not see I was missing the leaves! I did not think it was going to do for good entertainment 😅 thank you for your kind comment!
@jazzy-wc2tm
@jazzy-wc2tm 2 ай бұрын
Saying "I hope you die" at the perfect moment! 😂 also very good eye with spotting the wheel on the book cover and the familiar character in the portrait! Love your attention to detail
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
The dog will be the sole survivor of this, I am sure of it! 🐶
@jazzy-wc2tm
@jazzy-wc2tm 2 ай бұрын
I look forward to your conspiracy board segments so much!! I'm eating up your ideas about what Mr Owl is doing with Dale's mind and future, and how Dale takes memories. That moment where you were like Dale is part of the lake and has the powers of the lake 🤯 And Harvey is key to everything!I have a Harvey theory that I'm very curious if you'll wonder about too. Anyway thank you so much for putting so much work into your analysis! It's really fun to see your thought process and you suggest perspectives I haven't thought of. Also thanks for the shout out with my comment in there 😆
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
You are very welcome! 😀 I really like that we all have our crazy theories on these games 🤣 it makes reading the comments so much fun! I had to make a brand new board only for Roots because it was getting too crowded in that timeline 😅
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink 2 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to you figuring out who you're playing as 😁
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Oh me too! I am not going to speculate here to avoid spoilers but I have a few ideas! 😁 thank you for watching!
@Hymneth
@Hymneth 2 ай бұрын
Loving your playthroughs so far! Just started watching this series playthrough last week, looking forward to seeing you finish them all! Very excited, but I'll avoid any information that is a spoiler 11:02 You've seen Bob before Theater. He was in Case 23 in the Police Station, under arrest for something. 23:08 The writing on the arms of the mill are in Sanskrit referencing the stages of rebirth in Buddhism 35:42 I think this is the first game in the series where it isnt immediately obvious who you are playing as. 44:23 Absolutely nailed that guess 😂. You're really getting the game logic 1:08:20 I will be very surprised if this is just a two video game. The other commenter was being serious. Also, no spoilers, but after you finish the game there is an *extensive* post game with several more puzzles and some great lore
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Waoh thank you very much for this kind comment!! I did not remember seeing Bob before but now that you are saying it, indeed he was there! It confirms my theory then. I really appreciate all of the info without spoils, thank you! 😁 it will definitely be a 4 to 5 episodes game 😅 I am far from being finished with it
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
I may seem like a wiseguy here, but my own playthrough was a complete mess. Obviously I fell for the Maba thing. I solved a lot of people quickly, but then didn't notice the language changing in the illness scene and got the Russians mixed with the Indians, confusing myself for hours. I got the bad ending first, which solved the African group for me, along with the gunner's mate (his Polish voice actor showed up in the credits) I solved the Chinese, the Indians, the brothers and a the last seamen mostly through trial and error. Then got stuck on the Formosans because I inserted the mermaids as 'foreign enemy' Finally I identified the head steward as "guy in a steward suit that looks Indian" but ended up giving up on his death - the sound clue sounded nothing like a gunshot, and I couldn't figure out how he died.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Well I am sure you did better than me anyway! Thanks for all your comments and information! It is nice to have all of these details even after having finished the game for a while 😊
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
The Indians can all be identified in the illness scene because they sleep together. You have one that's just dying, with a hammock number. One sick in his hammock with a number. One out of his hammock, with a number. And one in his hammock with an X, but it's the last number you're missing. (I think he was given an X because he couldn't read - the doctor said the other two guys were from a 'lascar house' - it was a place where the British could get cheap foreign workers.)
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
Henry had the watch. He couldn't get through the door, so he killed the monkey to put a 'death scene' in the lazarette, so he could look from the inside.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Ah! That was one of my thoughts as well!
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
@@cecewho Also, the fact that we learn about the bargain through a claw of a monkey is a sort of literature joke. There is a famous short story about a monkey paw amulet that grants wishes, but always in the most asshole way possible.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
07:13 He has a tattoo on his forearm. His arm sticks out from under the blanket in the illness scene, so you can check his hammock number.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
02:48 The important thing about Midshipmen is they are here to learn stuff. That's why all three are slaughtering the cow. You know the stabbed one talked about Pete, so he can't be Pete himself. So once Charlie gets laughed at for throwing up, you can identify all three.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
05:47 You already got John Naples, O'Hegan and Brennan right. The last guy was one of the Russians. For the Russians, you knew them from playing cards. So you could tell them apart as "Russian topman" (seen on the mast when the lightning struck) "Russian with a pipe" (it hangs next to his hammock when he's playing cards, and he has it with him when the mermaids drown him) and "The third Russian".
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
05:42 This might be why Davies didn't call the doctor to the dying bosun - he knew the doctor was escaping, and he wanted his young steward to get away with him.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
04:42 He is wearing a French striped shirt, but the actual clue is his job. A bosun ( and by extension, bosun's mate) is the guy whose job is to shout at people to get things done. His face gets unblurred during the lightning strike scene - he is the only guy on the deck not pulling the rope, because he is the one giving orders. Also, the last time we see him, he's fighting the kraken alongside the bosun. When the bosun wakes up later, he asks what happened to him.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Shouting at people as a job! Rude ! 😅 thanks for the info, really interesting
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
03:57 Carries a gun everywhere, the only crewman who is always armed.. He is in the armory when the head steward gets killed, and then brings rifles to the deck for the kraken fight.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Indeed looking back on it, this one I could have found!
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
03:35 This is the most infuriating puzzle in the game. You can guess one Chinese topman, because his hammock is the only one left, but in the illness scene, you can see them aslep, with only their feet sticking out. You have to find them in other scenes, and match the numbers on the hammocks to their shoes and socks.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
03:00 When Abigail dies, the helmsman is seen pulled into the air above the steering wheel, and the last Chinese is trying to climb the mast and getting grabbed off the ropes by a tentacle.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
02:00 The big black dude is from Sierra Leone. The balding dude is a friend with the Chinese - you can see his hammock number next to theirs in the illness scene, and then he is eating with the last living Chinese when the kraken attack starts. I think the last guy is guessed by process of elimination.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
01:42 You can only tell them apart because Samuel's hammock never shows up on the gun deck (they only hang them to sleep, so checking the numbrs is the easiest way to see who is still alive at a given point. Also, Nathan's hammock is right next to the Dane's - he slept next to him for the whole cruise before he killed him.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Indeed I completely missed the numbers on the hammocks....too busy looking at the dead people 😶
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
01:10 He is in the doctor's office when the second Indian dies He is in the doctor's office cleaning the bed during the cow killing scene. He is with the doctor on the deck, looking over the bodies of Nichols and the Formosans He is with the doctor in the cargo hold, trying to help the guy whose leg was chopped off.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Ok got it 😅 he is basically the doctor' shadow and I never noticed him!
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
31:00 Suicide was highly illegal back then.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Ah! I thought that the punishment was more related to the murders, than the suicide
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
26:37 If you google new guinea tattoos now, Maba's picture shows up in top results :)
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
I did and I did not get his picture, but still saw some beautiful tatoos 🥰
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
21:00 Yes, the glossary is absolutely essential for this puzzle. I knew the tattoo guy wasn't the Frenchman, when I saw him working atop the mast in the lightning scene.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Yes someone pointed out that their position in the major picture was a clue as well!
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
14:32 The thing with the Frenchman is, Alfred's arm is getting ripped off in the last scene of Doom - So, he was there, and saw everyone who died on the deck up to that point. So for the 'torn apart' we need someone who 'disappeared' in the chapter, but was still alive when Alfred fainted from the pain - otherwise he wouldn't be asking.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
08:01 One guy was in the barrel, and the other guy was hit by the barrel as it fell.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
How do you find out that he is in the barrel though? 🤔
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
06:32 This is such a troll moment from the game designer. We look through the second window and see the crab. Then we move along the whole row of windows, and stop at the second to last window, becasue that's where the butcher is impaled. but If you look through the first window, you'll see the gunner and gunner's mate in the armory. if you look through the last window, you'll see the purser in the purser's office.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Yeees! I wanted to see this scene much clearly!! 🥲
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
44:10 He took the shell from the bottom drawer and put it in the top container - which made the chest shoot magic, but also fried his hand. (the game accepts burned, electrocuted or poisoned for this one)
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Did he? I missed that!
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
13:08 For Charles, the game accepts spiked, burned or even killed with a sword (if you think his friend stabbed him by accident)
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
12:23 Nobody knows how that foot ended up on the other side of the cargo hold. The current best hypothesis is that the doctor's monkey grabbed it for some reason. If not for that, we would have missed two chapters of the story.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
I think they threw the first crab overboard, but the second one died in the cargo hold and nobody felt like hauling it two floors up the stairs to get rid of it, so they just put it out of the way.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
I lost a lot of time calling sea monsters 'enemies'...
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
I did too 🫠
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
The flies would be long gone by then - they are just a visual cue to make finding bodies easier. Also, you are one of the few people I've seen to find the guy in the corridor before the cow.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
14:07 He is hiding in his office - you can see him through one of the small windows.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Lesson learned: look through all windows in games 😁
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
05:40 This deck is at water level, so they put this corridor here - this way, if there is a leak, the carpenters can get to it quickly without moving stuff around.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Makes sense! Thanks!
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
So the Danish guy was clubbed twice in two days :)
@Louis13XIII
@Louis13XIII 9 күн бұрын
💀
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
31:59 It's a foot. When the guy gets shot, you can see he stepped on a rope and got tangled.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Oh waoh 😲 well spotted!
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
He couldn't be German, because Germany wasn't a thing at that time - he'd be either Austrian or Prussian. (also, everyone falls for the Frenchman red herring :) )
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Totally fell for that yep! 😁
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
11:12 He was trying to cut off the body dangling outside the first mate's window.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
39:15 It's a packet of gunpowder used for loading cannons. He was going to throw it at the beast, but I don't know how he'd light it in this situation
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
Ah indeed! Now that you say it, it does look like a bag 😅
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
@@cecewho I'm way too late to contribute to the playthrough, but at least I might help your channel by feeding the algorhythm with my comments.
@cecewho
@cecewho 2 ай бұрын
This is so nice! Thank you! 🥰 I am glad you are enjoying the videos!
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 ай бұрын
The phrase you were thinking of is "memento mori" (remember that you will die)
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink 3 ай бұрын
Your switch from "oh no! Blood!" to "yay! I've found the blood!" is hilarious! 😂 The blonde lady is called Laura, her name isn't in the earlier games, but I don't consider that a spoiler. The bald man being another version of Dale is not a theory I had heard before, I'm pretty sure he's in other games as well. The white rabbit was also in Hotel, in Mr Rabbit's room you can sometimes see the corrupted white rabbit outside his window and the corrupted soul in the class containers at the end also wears the white rabbit mask/face. It's unsure if he is the same rabbit as the one you kill for his meat or not. I really like Roots, so I'll be looking forward to your videos! The game takes place over a long time, so it helps to make sure you've got the events in the right order in your head to follow the plot. You can play the events out of order, so making a timeline can help.
@cecewho
@cecewho 3 ай бұрын
Ooooh you are right!! I forgot we saw the white rabbit in the forest in Hotel! Is it the same rabbit though? Is it Dale wandering in the forest/lake trying to find a way out?? So many new questions now!! Thank you!
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink 3 ай бұрын
I really love your theories! It's really interesting what you understand and can extrapolate from really limited information. The cake was about getting a single candle on each slice, as soon as a candle was isolated it lit up. You did have a maximum of 4 lines, so I don't know if you misclicked or something. I'm pretty sure Harvey's box takes place as Laura takes Harvey with her when she goes to the lake. Which implies that the corrupted soul (who may or may not also be Laura as well as Laura's killer) also wanted to kill Harvey. And now the question is, did you change the actual past, or did you change Dale's memories...
@cecewho
@cecewho 3 ай бұрын
So many good points! I need to check the timeline again of the murder vs Harvey's box. I still feel like Harvey is more important than it seems at first. Thank you for your kind comment!
@akashmondal9794
@akashmondal9794 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for you to find out why Mr.deer seemingly researching the hotel and the lake... he he. Edit: And as I said, all the codes and stuff is very explicit about being a code that is meant to be used in a different game otherwise all the games are standalone experiences. Also, I don't think Harvey's ray of light and Dale's ray of light are meant to be the same or happen in the same time. The murderer rabbit can't be Dale because you are playing as Dale(although that may be a possibility as it involves time travelling). The confusing part to me is how Harvey is Dale's friend and writing him letter while the transformation into true parrot Harvey happens in 1894 at the end of hotel.
@cecewho
@cecewho 3 ай бұрын
Indeed if there is some time travel, everything is possible! I am still unsure on if everything is actually happening in reality or just in memories. If it is only changing memories in Dale's psyche, then anything can be true at any point in time even if not real in the "real" world. Whatever the real world is anyway 😵‍💫