MrThimato

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@kitrana 19 күн бұрын

2:04r the secret being they don't occupy different niches and are in direct competition with each other. ala attenburoughs life of plants.

@MrThimato 18 күн бұрын

(I will watch the documentary, but) why hasn't one species "won" by now?

@kitrana 16 күн бұрын

@@MrThimato i'm not a botanist but my guess would be well aside from the answer that grass mostly has and fields tend to be dominated by one kind of plant. well it hasn't actually been that long since the last interglacial, plants can't actually eat each other. the last glacial period brought CO2 levels down really low which weakened C3 plants enough that C4 plants got to rise and it's the large reason we have grassy plains today. one of the main differences between C3 plants and C4 plants is that C4 plants do photosynthesis differently and have extra mechanisms to concentrate CO2 internally allowing them to thrive in low CO2 environments. But significantly for this debate, these extra mechanisms don't give any advantage as the CO2 levels rise. so as CO2 levels began to rise to normal pre-industrial levels the C3 plants started to come back into their own. There are probably advantages to not bothering with the extra mechanisms for concentrating CO2 I am unaware of. combine this with the fact that plants can't directly eat each other to take out the competition, the rise of herbivores that came to thrive on the new C4 plants, and the short period (only 10 to 20 thousand years ago) since the last ice age and I am not quite sure there's been enough time for a winner to kill off all the competition. plus plants fight dirty both above and below the soil. poisoning the ground to simple area denial, and rooting and growth tactics are just the obvious mechanisms that I know about. anecdotally for example most of the plants I see competing with grass on my lawn have leaves that stay close to the ground and fan out to cover a larger area. a strategy no doubt employed to deny grass that might grow there any sunlight. or they have deeper roots to get at water and nutrients that the shallow-rooted grasses don't tend to reach. or a combination thereof. it seems obvious to me that this is an evolutionary slapfight between these plants that just hasn't wound up in a total win for one side and may never be able to.

@kitrana 16 күн бұрын

in the case of lawns specifically, i would also guess it helps competing plants that we keep our grass cut short. not only do the bulk weed plants have bodies that remain intact despite the mowers attention, being so low to the ground already and tending to have roots that can feed new growth, other seeds have a better chance of finding the dirt instead of being caught and tangled up on long grass blades.

@abi_art Ай бұрын

nah id adapt -mahoraga

@lorddonqweetle 2 ай бұрын

hm maybe as an idea, doing a lets play of the game may be interesting, hearing you comentate about the game and seeing how you play could help players understand it more, persuade/ help reach more people that might be interested, though thats up to you if a lets play would be your thing, also do damaged bodyparts heal?

@user-th6rg9yq8u 3 ай бұрын

The next milestone is making it 3d!

@Untrustedlife 3 ай бұрын

Also lol at the end of that :p I actually just did some rebalancing on the pqv grr hopefully they are still fun :p. I’ll also look into the loading bug.

@Untrustedlife 3 ай бұрын

The game will now properly deal with that key missing in the save file in the next update.

@jk0273 3 ай бұрын

Wow cool game

@Untrustedlife 3 ай бұрын

Ahh cool never heard of this game.

@CamelEggStudios 4 ай бұрын

I'm glad to see an update I tried for 2 hours over several sessions to get an interesting species going but was never able to progress past the first evolution. Hopefully with the update ill be able to get far enough into the game to see the evolution mechanics at work!

@MrThimato 4 ай бұрын

That's a shame. You should have said something, or review bombed me; then maybe I would have put out an update faster!

@zixvirzjghamn737 4 ай бұрын

if this game works then it will get popular way after you originally mad it

@MrThimato 4 ай бұрын

Well let me know what doesn't work so I can get working on it!

@lorddonqweetle 4 ай бұрын

Glad the game was updated, and just make sure you don't burn yourself out and make KZbin uploading fun!

@MrThimato 4 ай бұрын

No worries about burnout here, I just found myself weighing doing a video I thought might be fun against "not damaging the brand" of the tiny game I made, which is a foolish reason to not be an idiot on the internet!

@lorddonqweetle 4 ай бұрын

@@MrThimato why did i only just notice the wojack in the thumbnail 😭

@Untrustedlife 4 ай бұрын

It should technically be easier to play as these guys now as you get bonuses for attacking when multiple of your units surround the enemy now, you also get bonuses when there are multiple adjacent buildings.

@MrThimato 4 ай бұрын

hmm...

@Untrustedlife 4 ай бұрын

A difficulty level called flat earther would be hilarious.

@Untrustedlife 4 ай бұрын

It’s such a good idea to make video devlogs. Anyway! Cool! Also that ending ;)

@brookeschmitt 4 ай бұрын

"PromoSM" 😪

@Aaylias 5 ай бұрын

I can't buy it so I'll just leave a comment to support you <3

@MrThimato 5 ай бұрын

I just wanted to clarify since I seem to have worried some people: I'm doing fine. I got to spend half a year doing something I'm passionate about. I took this less upbeat tone, not because this game broke me and I'm having a meltdown now, but because I want to avoid doing what I have seen so many times in these kinds of ventures: leadership being overly optimistic and jumping to explain how everything actually went well, instead of taking a serious look at what happened and what could have gone better. This project was my chance to fully take charge of something, and that includes acknowledging if it was a bad move, or should have been done differently, so you can accomplish bigger things in the future. That process includes second-guessing and conflicting thoughts, and I wanted to share those with you so that, if you decide to do something bold, you will know what to expect.

@Boost113 5 ай бұрын

I think people checking the Steam page wanted to see impressive graphics, or at least graphics they could be indifferent about. I've read a lot about how a Steam page needs to be graphically impressive to pull in players, otherwise you might have the best gameplay in the world, but no one would buy the game.

@Untrustedlife 5 ай бұрын

Also oh my gosh you also love the game majesty :D

@MrThimato 5 ай бұрын

One of the games I've always wanted to make is a spiritual successor to Majesty, but with an increased focus on the economics. A very different take from DR4X...

@Untrustedlife 5 ай бұрын

I should have made a retrospective video for dr4x lol

@MrThimato 5 ай бұрын

it's never too late!

@dragonly4485 5 ай бұрын

I loved watching the development of this game and when I got the money I will buy it too. Even tho it isn’t that successful as you wished, you didn’t failed either. I am thankful for you for developing this for us!

@Mr-__-Sy 5 ай бұрын

I mean it's not really that bad after a month, we shall talk about it after a year and some updates to it, keep the price too, maybe you'll get to break even in the next month

@zixvirzjghamn737 5 ай бұрын

8:32 I thought it was for them to damage any prey they couldn't engulf on the way out

@MrThimato 5 ай бұрын

huh...eating with your butt. I feel like I'd rather check if I can digest something BEFORE putting it in my mouth, but I won't judge...

@zixvirzjghamn737 5 ай бұрын

1:10 Jokes on you I'll just get thylakoids and not make any other changes 1:49 Shit

@zixvirzjghamn737 5 ай бұрын

HAHAHhhahASHhahhaHAHhaAHahAHahHAhaHAHahAHhaHAawsHAHa

@abacusextreme1082 5 ай бұрын

Indeed.

@snowmanthegamer4983 6 ай бұрын

Video!!! Thanks!! Hope you're doing well!

@MrThimato 6 ай бұрын

Don't worry about me, I was just busy making the game the best it could be.

@Untrustedlife 6 ай бұрын

Thsi is very relatable, i locked myself into dr4x development by putting it in early access. lmao

@pixels2460 6 ай бұрын

Came here from the post in the womp server, looks amazing!

@lorddonqweetle 6 ай бұрын

does the ending let you continue playing? i personally think an endless mode would be cool if it does not

@MrThimato 6 ай бұрын

I see no reason to force the player to stop playing the game.

@lorddonqweetle 6 ай бұрын

@@MrThimato ah good to know, cant wait to play, do you know if the game will have/what the price will be on release, sorry if i missed it in the video

@MrThimato 6 ай бұрын

@@lorddonqweetleDon't worry, I avoided stating an exact price in case I felt like it needed adjustment (and it's currency dependent), but I'm pretty sure I want to sell it for around what Thrive costs. At the end of the day, this isn't a full-size game, so it seems about fair for what I've managed to deliver.🤷

@lorddonqweetle 6 ай бұрын

@@MrThimato fair, when it releases im gonna have chat gtp play the game, but im not going to explain the game to it so it will have to learn like a creature would, and when that generation ends im gonna start a new chat and repeat the process, and by letting it play i mostly just mean letting it choose what the creature does after explaining the options

@MrThimato 6 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, that sounds amazing. Let me know how it turns out!

@MrThimato 6 ай бұрын

One minor note: this was a reading FROM C.S. Lewis, not a reading OF the whole thing. The original essay is much longer, and I didn't mean to imply its non-existance.

@lorddonqweetle 6 ай бұрын

how is the video going so far?

@MrThimato 6 ай бұрын

I just finished out the Lion King reference, if that helps! You actually inspired me to get a little more of it done today, and I expect it out sometime in the next week.

@jk0273 6 ай бұрын

👍

@universe8607 6 ай бұрын

there is a limit of tribesmen that can attack tribe hut at the same time

@MrThimato 6 ай бұрын

seriously? That's the one thing in the stage they thought needed game balance?

@universe8607 6 ай бұрын

@@MrThimato I think it was done for stability (multiple tribesmen interacting with one object at the same time usually leads to pathfinding errors and question marks above heads). Also it might be a good thing because even if you are invaded by 3 tribes at the same time, they all can't focus your hut. Otherwise fighting multiple tribes at once would've been almost impossible.

@MrThimato 6 ай бұрын

@@universe8607 It's a little late to rebalance the game, but I feel like that just drags out your doom when getting teamed up on in hard mode...

@universe8607 6 ай бұрын

@@MrThimatothere are many ways to deal with getting teamed on even on hard, for example you can gift other tribes even when they are coming to attack you, in that case rival tribe will go to your village just to yell at you, also rogues kept as pets from creature stage as well as packs of strong creatures recruited with beastmaster ability are still effective in tribal stage

@Sea_Leech 7 ай бұрын

You used me as an example!! 4:11, this means i can die knowing i was in a video

@MrThimato 7 ай бұрын

Dreams do come true!

@dragonly4485 7 ай бұрын

Would have been hilarious if you had lost this battle because of them

@MrThimato 7 ай бұрын

No! I needed to get to space stage for video footage, and tribe stage killed me the most times by far!

@MrThimato 7 ай бұрын

(probably my fault for playing on hard mode to "make it more fun")

@snowmanthegamer4983 7 ай бұрын

Nice, EXPECTATIONS.

@snowmanthegamer4983 7 ай бұрын

Full of bugs... Nice pun. Also you gave the example of 1+1=2 and then that 1+1, it's raining=2, but that only works with numbers, actualy, not even then because it's literaly like 1+1+x(it's raining)=result, something not being defined in the same way as the rest doesn't nesecerely mean that it's not going to effect the result. That's just the effect of humans trying to mesure something and trying to exclude it from the things not mesured. I mean, this isn't important for this(or even related), I just wanted to say that. Sorry to bother, hope you're doing well!!

@MrThimato 7 ай бұрын

Please, bother away! I haven't gotten to respond to a comment in 3 weeks!

@snowmanthegamer4983 7 ай бұрын

@@MrThimato Ok! I just wanted to mention that cus it just popped in to my mind and I wanted to write it down because I felt it was interesting. Anyway, how's your day?

@snowmanthegamer4983 7 ай бұрын

Nice.

@MrThimato 7 ай бұрын

Real video IS coming

@CamelEggStudios 7 ай бұрын

Someone just linked your video in the Sapling discord and I just subscribed, im interested in seeing where this goes.

@CamelEggStudios 7 ай бұрын

I'm Eagerly awaiting a version that i can get my hands on, Just wishlisted on steam.

@kitrana 8 ай бұрын

gah i hope i am not to late, this tech demo sounds interesting i will give it a spin.

@MrThimato 7 ай бұрын

ohh, it's happening!

@masterm8840 8 ай бұрын

Maybe Nectavores encounter each other and plants randomly at first. If the meeting between the creatures or creature and plant benefits the creative's specie in anyway (like if the specie as a whole as result get more energy if you even account for that), the creatures will continuously seek out that creature or plant, the increase will also be true where if a meeting have a negative impact on the creative's overall specie, the creatures of that specie will avoid the other creature/plant.n This might be possible and lean more into realistic evolution if you added in a instinct listen for creatures, later on the more brain mass they have, the more energy they'll be required to get and the more instincts they can handle. Now in an example where a herbivore approaches a carnivore and as a result gets eaten, and this happen enough times that a few herbivores develop the instincts to flee from said carnivore, they're new instinct will be highly beneficial and spread through their specie. The carnivores now going a major energy supplier will eventually start to die off, and there I a possibility that one of those carnivores ends up with the instincts to chase said prey, drastically increasing it chance of survival, eventually the predators who don't chase prey will die off, leaving a much better specie. Now subspecies chasing and species fleeing, how do you determine whether the prey scales off is caught? Th I will of course be dependent on the creatures speed, slower herbivores who can't flee the carnivores will will off leaving the herbivores as a whole much faster, the slower carnivores who can't catch the newly fast herbivores will eventually for offf, leading the carnivores to get faster, and BOOM you've got evolutionary pressure which will not just impact speed, but attack and defensive measures. This will lead to interesting ddynamics developing and increase the realism of the game.

@masterm8840 8 ай бұрын

Nectavores - let creatures (like wtf autocorrect?)

@masterm8840 8 ай бұрын

Increase - Inverse (Danny you auto correct!)

@masterm8840 8 ай бұрын

listen - list (and I meant *damn)

@masterm8840 8 ай бұрын

Going - losing (sigh)

@masterm8840 8 ай бұрын

I - is (I'm tired of autocorrect, not gonna fix anything else, should be discernable enough, an too tired and need to go bathe.)

@masterm8840 8 ай бұрын

@clementlettuce 8 ай бұрын

plan to make a discord or something at any point?

@MrThimato 7 ай бұрын

Sorry for taking way too long to notice this! There's no plan to make a discord right now, mostly because I'm not sure I'm ready to take responsibility for moderating it. For some reason, people behave better on YT...

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