I think that was probably the point of the card initially or they already would have

@ probably, it would have paired better with the draw a fatigue cards if it was just fatigue

Honestly at some point they would have to change it to something like "Damage dealt to you by your cards also damage the opponent", dunno what sort of weird interactions this could spawn but it would circumvent the "you dont take damage on your turn" and also would have it so that without healthstone, you will most likely suicide trying to kill the opponent

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Most of those cards are legit

The fact that Theo gave you 3 options make it SO more likely to actually get the thing you need to get rid of, for the cards you mentioned, razor also hurts you, rat could SEVERELY backfire since its random, geist limits itself to 1 mana spells, same for eater of secrets it only prevents secrets (and can still get Objection!-ed and not even proc), demonic project gets the rat treatment it can work but its RNG... You dont seem to take into consideration that Theo not only is MUCH more consistent than all the cards you mentioned, but also you get to give your worst card so even in the WORST case that you miss the combo piece, you could read it as transform a bad card into a good card, and all that while your opponent gets no saying, its "Oh I got theo-ed, great! Now let me split my body starting from my ass :D" Things would be much different in games where you can act during your opponents turn, but HS is a "static" game in that regard, Magic could easily work around it by simply countering Theo during your turn

🤔 that would certainly succeed in removing it from the game

Is that as harsh as some of these?

they could also just nerf the cost of tamsin to 8 or 10 or something which would mean other players are much more able to interact with it

Honestly if the requirement wasn't the exact same thing as your win condition it would probably be a lot more manageable. "Play 5 demons" or "discard 5 cards" each step would mean that your deck won't be built to exploit that bonkers win condition. Instead they just keep upping the Health requirements, meaning that you're still playing a deck that can deal tons of damage to yourself in order to get a win condition that wants you to deal tons of damage to yourself.

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Possibly but its was probably a "why not both" situation 😂

Hearthstone does have that limitation implemented in two ways: 1) 'The next time you do X, Y happens' (eg: Preparation) 2) 'The first time you do X every turn, Y happens' (eg: Bonelord) It's just not used very much.

@ this would have been a perfect time to use it. I doubt people would be mad at one mana crystal refresh a turn. The problem is comboing off and getting 10-12 free mana off it then healthstoneing back 25 life

@ This is a problem that stems from the early feedback of players from the start of the game. Players were more frustrated by the problem of accidentally misusing single time effects due to ordering (for example Rogues, instead of using the coin then a Preparation to be able to use a 5 mana spell on turn 1, would instead Prep into coin into Concede because they wasted the Prep), than by opponents comboing off and abusing a permanent effect like Gadgetzan Auctioneer to draw 7-8-9 cards in one turn. This in turn lead to more cards that affect all cards of a certain category being created as opposed to single time effects.

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indeed

just remove reno

somewhat

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I mean, you could also put a limit on the number of discounts you can get. Something like "The first 3 spells you cast each turn costs 1 less" We already saw this same thing done with some other cards... IIRC we got a Druid card that discounted your first card each turn to 0.

It's honestly baffling that we still don't follow this rule when Magic never ever had free spells since you can't discount colored mana costs so most cards just discount to one???

​@@GMOPsyche affinity players be like "Wait you guys use mana to cast spells?"

​@@GMOPsychenever ever is not accurate. It has less discount. And most discount doesn't affect the manasymbols. But doing shit for free is a large part of this game around past turn 5, with the decks that do it earlier getting cards banned for that reason.

warlock has had a lot of nerfs for Wilds and/or Demonseeds sake 🤣

I think demonseed was one of, if not the most toxic card ever printed with next to no counterplay. Other toxic card I can think of is quest mage. 0 interaction, 0 counterplay other than luck

Yep

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I dont think I did that 🤔 I only play Wild 😂

Lmao I like that

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