This channel, my channel, is now almost 16 years old and when I originally started it airguns were the main theme. There are now over 80 videos on the channel and the bulk of them have to do with airguns, particularly scientific testing of airgun parts and materials and concepts. All of the content is mine, and in the past 16 years my interests have varied, but have always stayed with a scientific leaning. I have no intention of changing the name of the channel, and its content will continue to be about projects I am working on. If you go to the channel's home page will will find videos about airguns, and other interests, that you will not find anywhere else.
@gumbystown22 күн бұрын
How did I even get subscribed to this non-air gun Channel
@1227air50021 күн бұрын
I have answered you above as @1227air500.
@HawtSawz86Ай бұрын
Very impressive
@1227air500Ай бұрын
Thank you! It is pretty much altogether now so maybe a second video is due. Shop time for working on this project is fairly limited. Everything is working well except the unit injector has some room for improvement. I did manage to get a few pops out of it (very promising) but that's it so far.But I do feel like I am closing in on the end of the project.
@HawtSawz86Ай бұрын
@@1227air500 I found your channel looking for a little dyno that you put together a few videos back and scrolled through the rest. I’m going to watch all of them. Your attention to detail is truly amazing. I am an engine guy personally and an engineer at work, this is truly incredible. I can’t wait to see more videos. ❤
@erinnmoore45242 ай бұрын
Great channel, very educational. I guess many are here because of the L2 failure last year that made news in airgunning community (the cause of which is unknown). A reminder of the danger of HPA.
@1227air5002 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind reply. I read a few of the anecdotal accounts of the L2, but as you implied, finding information that is adequate enough to do any type of failure analysis (guess) is almost impossible. My anecdotal information is related to interior features that were not adequately described and therefore might have lead to stress points. But I certainly do not know. What I did find in all of my own destructive testing was that any parts for which I calculated yield and UTS values based on actual part measurements and specified material always exceeded the calculated failure values. A part that is inadequately described (dimensioned) on a drawing has the potential for problems. Sometimes when model files are electronically exchanged without dimensioned drawings, areas that leave some subjectivity open to the manufacturer do occur. Lloyd
@keisuketakahashi35973 ай бұрын
This is Fantastic , I was thinking to make this sort of project but could not find proper practical example.
@josemanuelbarradas65943 ай бұрын
Hi, Is the program available for download ?
@1227air5003 ай бұрын
Yes. The question was already asked here by @mitchchcruz. That answer tells you where to find it on the Auduino forum.
@mikedorn41814 ай бұрын
Wish you made this set up and sold it on eBay because I sure would be a buyer
@manray85134 ай бұрын
Whoa thanks man for the project, this is what i need right now
@1227air5004 ай бұрын
I am glad you can use it. (I was looking at all the Catlin Clark stuff and the politics and your comment pulled me back to the reality of why I love working with machines, LOL.)
@manray85134 ай бұрын
Lol the one with Adam apple? 😅 i’m trying to use it for measuring an e-bike motor power. I want to make it can do a steady state tuning
@1227air5004 ай бұрын
@@manray8513 There are so many of them out there! If you just want to do steady state, you might be able to avoid the whole data acquisition stuff and instead just print your sensor values to your PC monitor using some commands like this: // print the results to the Serial Monitor: Serial.print("sensor = "); Serial.print(sensorValue); Serial.print("\t output = "); Serial.println(outputValue); Then loop it with a delay between loops. That would still show in real time for you. Coming up with a decent brake to slow the motor and read the force will take some creativity but you might be able to do it right on the bike. If you like to tinker, this will be fun.
@manray85134 ай бұрын
@@1227air500 yeah i was thinking about put the brake on the bike, maybe make a hub and using some car brake to do it. I’m gonna modify this to output a digital potentiometers (for the ESC throttle) and geared stepper motor to pull the brake for the load so i can just input the RPM then the dyno doing it stuff. There’s one from Dirty Elbow garage for the reference
@1227air5004 ай бұрын
@@manray8513 Yes, I watched that Dirty Elbow video a while back. He came up with a nice set-up. But before you go that route of a computer controlled load, just try it manually.That way you'll get a feel of how the load needs to vary throughout your test. You might be surprised at how much you can do with a manually controlled load.
@Tony-o1b5 ай бұрын
That's quick!
@buckshot83937 ай бұрын
Would it help to cut the front of the mower deck out?
@Abc-kn5wj7 ай бұрын
He's cutting the deck in the front to use it as a discharge number one also so that the brush has the ability to stand up momentarily prior to being chopped so it is getting pushed down by the front of the mower. A better design would be a front tilt deck mower and they're not that expensive they're pretty much out of favor and you can pick them up relatively inexpensive and by having a tilt front deck mower. You're going to have the ability to pivot the deck 1015 degrees as you enter the brush and let the blades chop it all up
@1227air5007 ай бұрын
Cutting an inch or 2 would be fine but you don't want to weaken the deck too much. The way I changed the rods at the front of the deck to raise it up and effectively tilt the deck made it ride over the tall stuff fairly well. A brush guide inside the front wheels to keep the brush from hanging up in the steering tie rods is helpful. Also you don't want to cut so much off of the bottom edge of the front deck that you will ram the new cutting disks into a stump and break the blade spindles. Don't get too aggressive in the design right off the bat. See how the rig holds up for a while and then modify it some more.
@redgum13407 ай бұрын
Lloyd, that flywheel looks impressive. Such a lovely project and well made. Full concentration throughout. What type of aluminum are you using? Could the shaft simply work-harden that aluminum so other bearings are not required? Plenty of lube could help too.
@redgum13407 ай бұрын
Hey Lloyd, this build must be driving you nuts. Looks absolutely amazing and I'm hanging out to seeing it run. Can't wait...
@1227air5007 ай бұрын
Yup, it is a project you need to take a break from periodically, and get back to all of the stuff that was neglected while in the "project work phase."
@matthewhelton17257 ай бұрын
Holeecats! Building a 4v DD171! Love it!
@1227air5007 ай бұрын
How you doin' Matthew? Pretty well, I hope! Yes, I have been going down this different rabbit hole for awhile. I will be posting some more detailed videos shortly of the components I've built so far. I gotta say that I underestimated the complexity of this project, but it is coming along well now after some big bumps in the road. The Roots blower was difficult to get pumping without leaking too much, and it eventually ended up fine. But the unit injector almost made me give up and throw in the towel. My junk box has about 6 "fails." Now that the unit injector is working, I "think" I am past the hardest part that I had to build. But I eventually have to get it to run, too, ha ha. Lloyd
@mitchcruz16859 ай бұрын
Where I get the code for Arduino and where I can download the software
@1227air5009 ай бұрын
Go to the arduino.cc forum and search for the topic Easy Prony Brake Dyno for Small Motors and Engines that was started Mrch 25, 2024 by Lloyd-ss. It is all there.
@Abc-kn5wj9 ай бұрын
What you should have done is going on to Dr field brush mowers website and bought a heavy duty blade they're probably around 30 bucks and then cut it in half and then drill a hole to mail because those blades are not breakaway blades so they don't have the ability to pivot.. and they also are impossible to break
@1227air5009 ай бұрын
I ended up switching to rotary disc mower blades. They are single ended and only about 5 inches long so that they don't need to be cut and just bolt right on.
@buckshot83937 ай бұрын
Where did you get them
@1227air5007 ай бұрын
@@buckshot8393 Got them online from agrisupply dot com part number 79476 for $11.99 each. You don't need the expensive bolts. Just use some 5/8" bolts and nuts, but drill them for cotter pins for safety. Agrisupply has all types of blades so take your time to find what works for your setup.
@mikedorn41814 ай бұрын
@@1227air500 will those work for 46” deck?
@oddshot609 ай бұрын
Had you given any thought to some kind of guards to keep from getting your arms all torn up? Down here in Georgia, the place I would need it for is loaded with wild black berries.
@1227air5009 ай бұрын
Agreed, those black berries are nasty. Most of what I am cutting is Autumn Olive which doesn't have any of those aggressive thorns. You need some old cowboy leather chaps for your arms.
@oddshot609 ай бұрын
@@1227air500 I can't imagine getting dragged through them by a lawn tractor.
@oddshot609 ай бұрын
Nice piece of work! I really like your thinking on the blades! I'm thinking about doing the same sort of thing, but powering the mower "unit" with a 5 or more HP motor and either mounting it in front of my rider like you might mount a bucket ... or towing it from behind.
@1227air5009 ай бұрын
Lots of different approaches. The sling blade is what makes the difference.
@oddshot609 ай бұрын
@@1227air500 You are 100% correct. I never even gave it a thought. Thank you!
@Опневматике9 ай бұрын
Good afternoon, on forums about pneumatics I most likely saw your (maybe I’m wrong) model of internal ballistics of air weapons. I think this model is still very simplified. If you are interested, you can watch my model, although the video is in Russian, but now the built-in neural networks give a very good translationkzbin.info/www/bejne/h4mpnXawqZWLnqMsi=oA8HvHMgdTvBsHRR
@leonardpearlman40179 ай бұрын
The Manual clearly shows a Powerlet going in the shorter tube, with its snoot facing away from the gun! So the piercer (Part 5 in the manual) goes in first, THEN the powerlet. Now if you're holding the short steel tube and look into it, you should see the smooth round BUTT of the Powerlet. This also makes sense if you look at the threaded brass adapter, the end of it that screws into those tubes has a spherical recess in it that seems to fit the north end of the south bound Powerlet, so to speak. No need for a spacer! This isn't shown in the manual: If you want to use a single Sparklette (8gr chargers for seltzer siphon) I think it will work just fine, I hope to do it! THEN you'll need a spacer, it will go in the tube LAST and be .70" long I think. It could be machined from solid, I will try to make the spacer FROM used Powerlets, just for fun. Oooh, recycled! This could be done by careful hand work, or with a lathe or milling machine of course. I have one of these outfits now, and think the small 8gr charger should be ideal. Economical, common, high-purity food-grade CO2, and a good number of shots for a day.
@1227air5009 ай бұрын
I haven't had this pistols for a couple of years now, but I am glad this video is helping you figure some things about yours. Lloyd
@leonardpearlman40179 ай бұрын
@@1227air500It's a puzzle! I'm happy for any hint. It's funny how easy this can be (now) using air from a SCUBA tank. The apex of this is the Crosman Silhouette pistol, which has an air-chuck ON the gun... the SCUBA tank has a fitting attached to it by an adapter. SO, I plug in the pistol, open the tank valve, close the tank valve, DONE! This FEG thing is such a gadget, with wrenches, machined brass parts, instruction book, it's a (retired) engineer's idea of a good time. I just got one and really want to see it go. It's very promising. I will never run out of CO2! I really want to try filling from a bulk tank at least once.
@leonardpearlman401710 ай бұрын
Ten minutes later: Upon more mature consideration and research: I actually got up and walked to another room, and looked at a CO2 tank and also a CO2 regulator that happened to be sitting there. I hope you all appreciate this! The large brass fitting here LOOKS like a CGA 320 fitting for a CO2 tank that's been cleverly made... That is it's a special part that fits the CO2 tank at one end, and your refillable cylinders at the other! It might be that this brass thing can stay on a big CO2 tank if you have a spare one. Ideally one with a "siphon tube" that feeds liquid from the bottom of the big tank. It's starting to look like everything you need to use bulk CO2 is in that case already! Looking again at a (picture of the) manual, this seems like somewhere north of fifty or sixty thousand shots, the fill locally is now about forty dollars?
@leonardpearlman401710 ай бұрын
??? Judging by THE MANUAL, it looks like the longer tank allows you to use smaller CO2 chargers. The common Sparklets, they hold 8 grams, and are used to make soda water in the famous siphon bottles. I've been looking into this lately b/c I want to buy one of these outfits. The 8g charger is shorter than the 12g one, and two of them fit in the longer tube nose to nose, with the piercing device between them. OR you can use bulk fill, but I don't quite see how this all attaches to a large CO2 bottle, which are quite common, and easy and economical to have filled. They are used in soda fountains and in welding, holding I think 20 pounds (9000 grams! 750 Powerlets or 1000 Sparklettes) of CO2. They might be the cheapest of all CO2 sources. I did some online shopping for CO2 adapters, and there are dozens of them! Watching this video for the third or fourth time I realize that the larger brass device might BE the big-tank adapter! It might be that our host has not read the manual. SO this system has the maximum variety of filling options: Big tank, 8gr chargers, 12gr chargers. As of today I find that the smaller chargers are cheaper per gram, it might be b/c they are very common, a kitchen supply you could say. I probably have a case of them already. Plus they are a handy size if you could use just one. This seems to need a home made spacer as we see in the video. I note with sad interest that the Crossman Skanaker outfit seems to have the best way to fill a cylinder from a bulk tank. Very positive and simple, no need for refrigerating anything, no question of being able to fill the cylinder. Unfortunately it ONLY works with bulk fill I think, which might have limited sales. I thought it was clever of FEG to make it possible to shoot with Sparklets. I looked at a box of these and they were made in Hungary! I'm sure there's a story there. Maybe they invented the process to MAKE the little CO2 bottles?
@antonnystromer652110 ай бұрын
Hi, Is the program available for download ?
@1227air50010 ай бұрын
I am preparing complete documentation to post on the Arduino.cc forum in the next few days. It will have a PL. schematic, Arduino program and Excel program. What level are you at with electronics, Arduino, Excel, mechanical, etc? This program is also suitable for an inertial dyno in addition to the prony brake/energy absorber type shown in the video. Lloyd
@1227air5009 ай бұрын
See the reply to @nitchcruz1685 above.
@spamcatcher276011 ай бұрын
Thank you for this experiment. The 12g of air must have been very hot from the filling process in order for it to increase the temp of that massive metal block ~5F in just a few seconds, correct? Would be interesting to see the pellet speed drops after the gas dropped to room temp. Might take a while since air doesn't transfer heat too well. Might require a pressure gauge on the dump chamber to verify there were no slow leaks.
@1227air50010 ай бұрын
Thank you for the interest and comment. Because there was a slow leak past the pellet, I had to fill the reservoir quickly so that there would be plenty of pressure for the shot. When the air leaves the fill hose and expands, it first immediately draws heat from metal reservoir, making the metal cool. But as it re-compresses inside the reservoir, it gives up heat to the metal, so the temperature of the metal quickly rises. This all takes place within just a few seconds; actually much faster than you would think. If the gas remained in the reservoir long enough for the temperature of the metal reservoir to cool back down, part of that heat would go into increasing the pressure of the gas (air) in the reservoir, and the rest of the heat would heat the air around the outside of the reservoir. You can think of it this way: the heat capacity (you might call it energy capacity) of the metal is just a change in the temperature of the metal. But for the gas, the heat capacity is both in the temperature of the gas and the pressure of the gas. And that depends mostly on how quickly the reservoir is filled. If you fill it slowly, the pressure will go up and the temperature will stay constant. But if you fill it quickly, the pressure will go up less, but the metal of the reservoir will get hotter. The total energy does not change, it just changes state. I demonstrated this (to myself) once when I quickly filled a long tubular reservoir that had a piece of synthetic material at the far end to act as a filter for when the air was allowed to exit. The entry end of the tube got very cold, but the far end of the tube, where the material was, got very hot, hot enough in fact, to char the synthetic material! I wasn't really expecting that, but it really drove the point home. If you think about it, it is very similar to the compression process in a diesel engine. Lloyd
@redgum1340 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, now I know what you've been up to. Yeah, it does look quite nice now. Well done Lloyd😃
@1227air500 Жыл бұрын
I've got plenty of that Autumn Olive to deal with.
@redgum1340 Жыл бұрын
LOL, well fed animal Hahaha
@johnmarkavellmujar33192 жыл бұрын
I support your utube chanel pramist yuo
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
John, If you look through all my videos, you will find other ones that where I pressure tested tubes. Lloyd
@johnmarkavellmujar33192 жыл бұрын
Tiech me men how you Meade iet
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
Hi John. This is an old video and here is a link to a newer on that has more information about the test equipment I built. It might be helpful. Thank You, Lloyd kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqGuoZ2rZdiKjMk
@johnmarkavellmujar33192 жыл бұрын
Wauo very power full mennñ
@redgum13402 жыл бұрын
Hey Lloyd, you've been busy. Nice!
@BensWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, very interesting.
@gumbystown2 жыл бұрын
Please how is this related to air guns I'm trying to understand
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
It's not. Interests change over time. It's a challenge that might be fun... or frustrating.
@ginoturrella99852 жыл бұрын
You see nothing leaking or distorting and claiming that it's anti-climatic. That is true as long as nothing goes wrong during the test. If it does go wrong you got a real bomb on your hands at 10,000 PSI 😉 there's another thing that might be a bugaboo in the research and design of a new rifle at this pressure. The recoil may become hard to manage. Best guess the recoil's going to be somewhere around a 300 win mag. One thing is for sure if this is made into a practical rifle you can be shouldering a bad mama jama. That requires a whole new way of thinking.
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
Hi Gino, The test cylinder is filled with hydraulic oil and the oil is pressurized by an oil-over-air force multiplier. The oil and air are separated by a moveable piston, such that when/if the tube fails, the oil will escape but the air will remain contained in the pressure multiplier. The main purpose of the tests was to verify that the mechanical strength of the pressure tubes met or exceeded their mech specification. But what it also revealed was that the strength of the tube isn't normally a concern. Something else in the system (an o-ring for example) will fail first. Take a look at this later video and see ho the threads were starting to fail when the tube burst at 15,000 psi. Lloyd kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqGuoZ2rZdiKjMk
@BensWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and well done. I am interested in how you machined the lobes. Are you able to post something on that?
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. If you look in this thread on another forum www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/threads/injected-diesel-56cc-2-stroke-will-it-ever-work.31110/page-2 starting at about post number 26, most of the build details are covered. Lloyd
@BensWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
@@1227air500 Many thanks!
@ginoturrella99852 жыл бұрын
If he can even get the pressure lower to 10,000 PSI and it is safe to manufacture the advancement in PCP air gun would be a quantum leap.
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
I have not tried firing an air rifle at a pressure above 4,500 psi. With a balanced valve, it might be possible, but many design changes would be needed. That is a VERY interesting idea. Lloyd
@weaton252 жыл бұрын
I had one of these guns about ten years ago like a fool I sold it cheaply on as I only really used it for plinking I thought that it was to good for me and it was wasted on me and should go to a proper target shooter. So I sold it on to a guy on a shooting forum only for him to sell it on for about twice what I sold it to him for. That pissed me off big time you think that you are helping someone and all they do is shit on you moto to my story just assume that everyone is not honest like me and they are just waiting to take advantage of you if you let them.
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
People look at buying and selling differently. Some people (like you and me) view it kind of personally and hope that what we are selling is going to a good home. Others view it simply as a business deal and a way to get something at a very good price or to re-sell at a profit. And they will sometimes make up stories to get a better price. People are different. I once had a friend give me a real low-ball offer on very nice rifle because he said, "I know what you paid for it." Obviously, no-deal, plus, I learned something about my friend. Buyer (and Seller) beware.
@isaaccruz46912 жыл бұрын
Have you ever experimented with self contained air cartridge?
@jeffreyhinzjr.67452 жыл бұрын
Wonderful information and a fantastic test. I am also wondering if you are furthering your research into the electronic valve? And yes I am referring to the type you developed for the Rogue. By the way why was such a perfect PCP rifle like that discontinued? Oh by the way my first PCP rifle was a Disco and I still have it. I was thinking the only real upgrade for that model would be an electric valve, a new breech upgrade to hold pressure, and of course boring the air port. Would you happen to have any thoughts on this topic?
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
Its a long story about the Rogue, but won't go into it. For the Disco, one of the easiest mods, if you are looking for more power, is a heavier hammer spring. A google search will turn some up.
@redgum13402 жыл бұрын
Looks like you've been busy Lloyd. Nice :) Make sure you look after that knee...
@1227air5002 жыл бұрын
Trying out something new and different. Knee is doing nicely, thx.
@Опневматике3 жыл бұрын
Great experiment, today, inspired by your video, I made a video about a numerical experiment on this attachment point. You can watch on my channel, but I speak Russian
@1227air5003 жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting on this video and for the analysis yo did in your video at kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnmaonmXgsyneMk Do you think there is strong correlation between your analysis and my test? Thank you. Lloyd
@Опневматике3 жыл бұрын
@@1227air500 If I set the propeller material to yield strength 710 *10^6 pascal (9.8 strength class), the result matches your experiment very closely. Complete destruction will occur at a pressure of 5800 psi
@matthewhelton17253 жыл бұрын
A trip down memory lane! Daisy imported these into the USA from 1992 to 1996 as the Model 93; I worked for Daisy during this time, and purchased two of them. One warning in the Instructions was NOT to dry fire them (Charged or not - bad for the ball valve and bad for the seat - no damping for the valve if there is no pellet in the bore). There was a service bulletin I remember reading from FEG in about 1995 (badly translated from Hungarian). The also made a rifle version of the gun (I have one; I think 40 or 50 of the rifles were brought in in the late 1990's via Australia).
@1227air5003 жыл бұрын
Matthew, Very good to hear from you! I hope you are doing well. I had no idea these were imported by Daisy and that you worked for Daisy. The pistols seemed to be nice quality, with a few hand-lapped parts in the trigger assembly. A funny (and dangerously stupid) story about when I got these two pistols to refurbish. I had never seen one before so the whole process was a learning experience. When I was initially checking one of them out to see if it would hold pressure, I didn't realize that there was a pellet lodged in the barrel. Scared the heck out me when the pellet hit the other side of the shop. Those close calls re-set your safety awareness radar, and you are lucky when you don't get hurt in the process. Lloyd
@matthewhelton17253 жыл бұрын
@@1227air500 LLoyd, a close call indeed! Sent you an email. Funny thing about these pistols; I've had to make two or three fill adapters for these things over the years for folks who had lost or otherwise didn't get the bulk fill adapters.
@davidprocter35783 жыл бұрын
there is a lab in the UK driving half inch BB's to 17000 fps in order to test amour plating for tanks to space craft to achieve these velocities they use a combination gun powered by explosives compressed gas and a piston, ingenious bit of kit, with the use of very high speed cameras you can watch bb's vaporize as they cut into steel plate. far too big to fit over your shoulder and too dangerous to operate outside a purpose built bunker, but I see no reason why a spring piston rifle could not be converted to do a similar but much less impressive job using a blank to drive the piston and a pump to uprate the pressure forward of the piston seal, it would still be to fiddly for field work but might prove an interesting test bed.
@jds653q3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. Gives me more confidence in my guns
@1227air5003 жыл бұрын
Jacob, thanks for the comment. Nice to know the work is helpful and appreciated.
@jamie-ox8sg3 жыл бұрын
82.46 foot pound speed isn't everything
@rickoshea81383 жыл бұрын
Man, I would like to see this go to completion.
@1227air5003 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick, This is still in a tote box on the shelf. Maybe it's time to get it out again.
@rickoshea81383 жыл бұрын
@@1227air500 That would be great, Lloyd.
@1227air5003 жыл бұрын
@@rickoshea8138 You aren't by any chance in Ireland, are you? Lloyd
@rickoshea81383 жыл бұрын
@@1227air500 Lloyd, I hate to disappoint you, but my name is a play on "ricochet". I am less than 3k miles from you.
@1227air5003 жыл бұрын
@@rickoshea8138 Sigh. Clever, but a major disappointment. I have run into a lot of UK airgun folks, but so far, none from Ireland. I will get over it. BTW, the heart of this pistol is a tuneable diaphragm valve. I put the pistol in a box when I broke the 4-40 tuning screw off deep inside the action. All I need to do is drill it out, plug the hole, and re-tap for a new 4-40. It had a couple of other issues, too, and I am not sure how much power it will produce. It will probably make a decent .25 cal. It will dump several cc's of air very quickly.
@jollyrancher4003 жыл бұрын
I wonder if 304 stainless steel tube with the same thickness have the same strength as the high grade aluminium tube here
@jollyrancher4003 жыл бұрын
Hello good sir..that is a very informative testing..i've watched your video where you thin down an airtube..i wonder if you can do a test on a faulty airtube threading..like a very wobbly connection between a the end cap and the airtube..just to clarify a good material doesn't really matter if it is not done properly..thank you sir
@benitosanchezlima52263 жыл бұрын
I occupy the multi shot breech and the kit du together oring
@1227air5003 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I am not sure what you mean?
@benitosanchezlima52263 жыл бұрын
hello friend can you help me get a breech for my youngest? greetings from Mexico
@1227air5003 жыл бұрын
Just the steel breech that comes from the Crosman factory?