Bill Tilden's Tennis For Beginners
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@alexbowie6316
@alexbowie6316 8 жыл бұрын
When I played tennis in 60s and 70s, I read every biography of the greats. Tilden's were fascinating. He ate steak before a game, so he started slow and came on as the match progressed. Although this is about club level now, at the time they were Gladiators.
@capoman1
@capoman1 10 жыл бұрын
I wish I could see some footage of this old beast. He holds many records.
@Bascomblodge
@Bascomblodge 11 жыл бұрын
Tilden's chapter "Courage" in Match Play and Spin of the Ball was a great mainstay to me and one of the great tennis chapter's ever written. Watching the videos available of him and it is amazing to see what is considered modern tennis. You see open stance backhands and forehands. You see transfer foot work and mogul footwork patterns as well as full shoulder rotation. There is no doubt of his genius. His concept of the all court player is the fore runner of the modern game.
@Lincoln2000
@Lincoln2000 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, the equipment is very important and a part of the improvement of the sport indeed. If the players of today would have to use equipment of Bill Tilden's prime, it definitely would take away a lot of the speed and accuracy, which is possible with modern equipment. Of course not only the equipment has improved, but also the „movement as such“ and the variety of shots. Would be interesting to see a top player in a game with a wooden racket, but I only found a few amateurs using them.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Lincoln, Fair enough and I don't think your comments are disrespectful at all. However, I do wonder how well the players of today would hold up if they were to wear shoes, hit with wooden rackets without any grips, string their rackets with cat gut, wear sweaters and long pants. They would also have to keep their feet on the group when serving & not be able to sit down between games. Oh yes, no tiebreakers either. You've raised a good point. It's all very interesting. Thanks for writing
@Lincoln2000
@Lincoln2000 11 жыл бұрын
He would be destroyed by every current player. No doubt. That is a fact. I don't say that because I disrespect him. Nearly every sport improves with time. This video or other older Tennis videos are historically very interesting, but you can clearly can see the difference.
@phntsm06
@phntsm06 11 жыл бұрын
this footage video is actually well edited with much slow motion which is way better than those new tutorials I found in youtube nowadays!
@Federer2001
@Federer2001 12 жыл бұрын
Wow. Some things haven't changed but a lot has changed. The swing has changed along with the grip. Today, we see more of the same grip for a forehand and backhand grip.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Billy! I'm glad that you enjoyed the video. I've roughly translated your message to say "its rare to see such a good-engaging video" Best Wishes, Tom
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments. I sincerely apologize for the delay in approving your posting. Best Wishes!
@igalflint
@igalflint 12 жыл бұрын
the greatest !
@ramonyere5826
@ramonyere5826 12 жыл бұрын
Bill Tilden was one of the best in the business, maybe the best tennis player who ever lived. It's been said he could serve a ball at 150+ mph. I have doubts about that since serving a ball that fast and powerful with a wooden racket (all rackets in Tilden's era were made of wood) is very difficult.
@steppinout67
@steppinout67 12 жыл бұрын
this vid actually helped my kick serve. no joke. it's a really straight forward explanation. Thanks Bill.
@kjetin99
@kjetin99 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your fantastic video how it was back then That really shows that it is a different world.
@kjetin99
@kjetin99 12 жыл бұрын
I can swear on my childrens head that with that technique its impossible to hit even 100 mph!
@pascalliodripity
@pascalliodripity 12 жыл бұрын
He is referring to the Tsonga smash when he says some players don t keep one foot on the ground. Should nt he also leave his left arm up longer when serving for more control and impact?
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 12 жыл бұрын
@aardvaark069 You are correct.Tilden was indeed a chain smoker.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 12 жыл бұрын
I just found an article where the "kid" shared his memories of Bill Tilden. Art Anderson was a very talented young player and progressed further as an adult tennis player. I find it most frustrating that I might have had the chance to speak with him, had I only discovered his identity sooner. I'm having trouble posting that link but I have it up on the Indoor Tennis Court FaceBook Page. Sorry for the re-direction but at the moment it is the only way I can get you to the link.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 12 жыл бұрын
I just found an article where the "kid" shared his memories of Bill Tilden. Art Anderson was a very talented young player and progressed further as an adult tennis player. I find it most frustrating that I might have had the chance to speak with him, had I only discovered his identity sooner. I'm having trouble posting that link but I have it up on the Indoor Tennis Court FaceBook Page. Sorry for the re-direction but at the moment it is the only way I can post the link.
@lafamidore
@lafamidore 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage! Thank you so much for posting this! I was six when I was given the exact same instruction. Now, I coach juniors and am constantly amazed by how much the game has changed, especially the use of the Western grip! Nevertheless, I caught myself saying,"keep your eye on the ball at all times" just yesterday. That's timeless!
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 13 жыл бұрын
@telekingkong Thank you for sharing your thoughts andopinions. Just so that everyone knows, I review all comments before approving them. Opinions are always welcomed but comments that are disrespectful will not be posted. Thank you again!
@darthnozo
@darthnozo 13 жыл бұрын
This is amazing FPS for '48. Incredible. Thanks for posting.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 13 жыл бұрын
The kid in this film is a young man by the name of Arthur Anderson. Mr. Anderson was a tennis instructor in CA. Sadly Mr. Anderson passed away in the Summer of 2011.
@Pundit2k
@Pundit2k 13 жыл бұрын
Was there slow mo back in 1948?
@MrPernell27
@MrPernell27 13 жыл бұрын
this is almost comical now
@MrPernell27
@MrPernell27 13 жыл бұрын
@tom47usa he was a smoker. They finally made it a rule that smoking on court wasn't allowed because of bastian Brashh. A chain smoking german who played during the 90's
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 13 жыл бұрын
Hello, The date on the film's container stated 1948. I hope that helps to answer your question. Thank you for viewing. @angelodellabrughiera
@Sportsman691
@Sportsman691 13 жыл бұрын
That kid has some sweet strokes, especially for that time. nice FH and kick serve.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 13 жыл бұрын
That's a very good question. I have no idea who the kid is but I hope that someday we will find out. All I know is that this was filmed in CA. Thanks for your question.
@Sportsman691
@Sportsman691 13 жыл бұрын
who is the kid? did he also become a star?:D
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 13 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. Back then many were unaware of the dangers of smoking. Strange how people didn't know this, seems rather obvious when you think about it. I'm not sure if Tilden was a smoker, I'll have to look that one up. Regardless, you can clearly find him and many famous people in such ads from years ago.
13 жыл бұрын
All that and a chain-smoker too
@LazlosPlane
@LazlosPlane 13 жыл бұрын
I thought Tilden was a lefty.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 13 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thank you for your posting and information. I will have to be sure to pick up a copy. It sounds very interesting. @PigeonFeathers
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 13 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to know that you finally had a chance to view these films. Thank you for your positive thoughts. @tom47usa
@PigeonFeathers
@PigeonFeathers 13 жыл бұрын
I heard about these instructional videos a while back and was hoping someone would post them some day. Thanks so much!
@PigeonFeathers
@PigeonFeathers 13 жыл бұрын
@lobextomy Bill Tilden's serve was once clocked at 163 miles an hour. You can read about it in the book, A Terrible Splendor.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 14 жыл бұрын
Hi Everyone, just an update here to let you know that the date listed on the film's container indicates 1948. Thank you!
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 14 жыл бұрын
I've added the second film that I have of Bill Tilden. It also runs for 10 minutes. It is titled "Bill Tilden's Advanced Tennis." I hope you enjoy it.
@soclarc
@soclarc 14 жыл бұрын
tom47usa: Took tennis from Jan Kozeluh, Karel's brother, in 1950s ("Teeldin best!!!!"). In "Lolita," "Ned Litam" should be spelled backwards. Lo takes lessons from grizzled veteran, Ned. Nabokov also calls Tilden's game "the divine delicacy of absolute power." I've sen them all play in person except Tilden, Vines, the Muskateers (though Toto belongs in Oz). Tilden's game sublime to see, like Ali, Sugar Ray R, Willie Mays, Dimag.
@soclarc
@soclarc 14 жыл бұрын
Took tennis lessons in 50s from Jan Kozeluh, Karel's brother. ("Teeldin best!!!!) Have read DeFord, Riggs, others. Have seen them all play in person except Tilden, Vines, the Musketeers (tho I think Toto went to Oz). Probably know that "Ned Litam" in Nabokv's "Lolita" should be spelled backwards; Nabokov says Tilden's game "the divine delicacy of absolute power." Lolita takes lessons from Ned when he's a "grizzled veteran." Tilden's sublime style... great regret just missed seeing him play.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 14 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts and information of Bill Tilden. I promise to do a bit of work today regarding another film that I have of "Big" Bill. In the meantime you might enjoy this Website: Indoor tennis court .com. (w/o spaces) The Indoor Court is where Bill Tilden spent the Winter of 1919-20 working on his backhand. You probably already know this but I'm not sure if you found my website. Stop by sometime if you are in the area, but let me know so that I can meet you.
@soclarc
@soclarc 14 жыл бұрын
An old-timer, I've been looking for videos of Tilden playing tennis for a long time. Thanks so much for uploading this one. He may well have been the best of the wooden-racket era. Around the time of your video, he'd recently beaten twenty-something Ted Schroeder, US Nat'l Champ, in a match for military servicemen. Score: 6-2, 6-3. Tilden was about 49 years old. He was legendary for such matches in his very late playing years.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 14 жыл бұрын
@johndcullum Glad you enjoyed it! I'm working on another Tilden film that is very similar in format. I hope to have it uploaded to this site in the near future. Thank you for your taking the time to post your kind comments.
@JDCullum
@JDCullum 14 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. The sight of that amazing Tilden serve is priceless.
@tom47usa
@tom47usa 14 жыл бұрын
Hey Tooobah, The only idiots are the player's with bad behavior of which you you are not capable of. Try to keep your grip(s) correct and be sure to keep your eye on the ball and you'll be fine. Next time you are in town we should play a few games. Maybe we could play mixed doubles along with our spouses.