At 55:00 no, I do judge people who are not vegan. I do not accept their decision to abuse and torture animals. Why should we accept that? Do you accept pedophiles? Do you accept rapists? No? Then why accept people who hurt and slaughter animals for pleasure? No way. I disagree with several stances in this presentation

Thank you for this great presentation 🙏 My only disagreement is the part about "vegan allies". I would never consider a non-vegan to be an ally to a vegan, even if they say "I support your veganism". It just doesn't make sense. I am allies with the animals, and non-vegans are the enemies of the animals. How can we be allies with the enemy? Beyond that, I wouldn't consider any non-vegans to even be my friends or family. I unfriended all my old friends and disowned my family members who still abuse animals. The only people I consider "friends family and allies" are vegans and animals.

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One of the most beautiful talks I’ve ever heard! I immediately ordered your book about your relationship with your dog. Can’t wait to read it 🐕❤

Such a good talk 👏🏼💚

23:53 Qué bien. Entonces si me preguntan si soy vegana diré que soy 80 por ciento vegana. Siendo 80 por ciento vegana puedo marcar la X en vegana? O a partir de qué porcentaje es?

17:58 interesante. Cogeré mis tickets de compra a ver el porcentaje que gasto en carne, es muy poco ya que las pocas veces que la compro es cuando trae el sello de 30 % de descuento porque está cerca de la fecha de caducidad.

shaming works for women and children. for me shaming is worse than insult.

i see this is 8 years ago. i cant listen right now. it is 2024. animal rights is human rights we are all animals. my heart is broken.

What a fantastic girl. You're amazing 💚

😂😂 not a great idea to start with a bad joke 🤣🤣 but that's funny by itself

végane et respect pour les animaux 🙏❤🙏

Do you have people working from uk to do healing with animals giving unconditional love and care and healing

Fantastic talk, thank you!!

Thanks

Not going to lie i feel so afraid , and so much sorrow

Absolutely, more diverse voices are needed, people of colour are needed. However, they must not be used as tokens but speak for themselves and do within the community what they want and can do. Thanks for sharing your story!

Veganism is a journey to become supercilious

It is very important for every vegan to watch her videos.

This is exceptional, thanks so much. Vegan feminism is possibly the only solution to the ecological crisis, that's driven by the patriarchy and its integral link to unnecessary meat consumption in the Holocene.

We don't have this long friend. Climate collapse will force us to end animal agriculture within the decade if we want to avoid extinction.

Another very savvy way that veganism is being obscured away from animal rights is with all the recipe channels on social media dominating the discussion. For example on facebook/meta never will I see the abolistionists approach or other liberation oriented channels of information, instead their feed shows only a generic sampling of seemingly random material but never anything about veganism unless it is either malzoan or about recipes. The algorithm already intentionally hides videos like this one. Because most of these platforms are already in cahoots with the exploiter conglomerate web. Adverts are usually a 'dead' give away.

Thank you so much for the inspiring presentation ! Thank you ❤

Thank you Melanie 🥹🤍

For the animals that are dying, do you think they'd be happy knowing we took a slow approach? Is there a such thing as humane rape? Or should no mean no? Eating animals is wrong. Gary Francione brought this up. He's an abolitionist on animal cruelty. Some things to think about.

thank you excellent

veganshaming & nonvegan apologist at its worst.

Oh no! There's vegan cigarettes now! That'll rightly shorten my lifespan! Took me long enough to give them up!

Like number 100 👍(me). Why the hell did it take 7 years?! Gotta reduce human population... (- humanely of course...)

Thank you, Tobias. Although I have been a long-time vegetarian, then vegan, my world has been academic/clinician-scientist and speaking and writing about the evidence supporting humans are ‘vegan-by-design’ (Dr. Milton Mills’s coined term; search ‘The Anatomy of Eating’). Inevitably, this leads to a healthier planet and avoidance of abuse as well as avoidance of cruelty to animals. In your talks, I highly recommend acknowledging the powerful, seminal, and compelling work of Harvard-trained psychologist, Dr. Melanie Joy when discussing topics such as the 3 N’s which ‘not-appropriately you expanded to a fourth N. Also. Dr. Joy’s book on ‘Beyond Beliefs. A Guide to Communication for Vegans, Vegetarians, and Meat Eaters’ was seminal in describing the trauma that can occur as being a ‘vegan in a carnist world’. She was the first really to articulate this secondary post-traumatic stress and the importance of self care for vegans and how to do it. As an academic and to advance the vegan movement, it behooves us to provide credible resources to our audiences that they can refer to benefit from, and to give due credit and acknowledgment for their work and contributions. Thank you. Carry on with your important contributions to this social movement. Professor-Elizabeth

Thank you as ever, Dr. Joy, for your rational, cogent, reassuring approach to being an effective advocate in the vegan movement. You so effectively articulate many of the issues that I am confronted with daily in my professional role as a health scientist-clinician and in my personal life and relationships. One outlet that I have initiated is VEG (Vegan Enthusiast Group) with the College of Emeritus Professors at my University. It is open to ALL professors emeriti, regardless of where they are on the plant-based nutrition continuum and for what ever reasons. Your conceptualization of ‘carnism’ is brilliant and one that I describe (citing your work, of course). My international audiences are health professionals and students, and the topic is health/lifestyle behaviour change. Changing beliefs and attitudes around ‘evidence-based’ nutrition practices is not comparable to quitting smoking, sitting less and moving more, better sleep and manageable stress. That humans are ‘vegan-by-design’ and nutrition vegan-talk elicits all the emotional reactions that you describe. ‘Carnism’ needs to be raised to help contextualize the issues. Given several decades of evidence supporting vegan nutrition for individual and planetary health as well as animal welfare, national food guidelines around the world reflect attitudes/beliefs/learned cultural practices, and NOT the scientific evidence. Most if not all governments food and nutrition guidelines reflect multi-national influences, in turn, widespread chronic physical and mental disease, and horrific perpetuation and unconsciousness about the abuse and suffering of animals in factory farming. This seriously needs to change beginning with ‘awareness’ as you so eloquently point out…. Professor-Elizabeth

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All this the world well knows; yet none knows well To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell. Shakespeare Sonnet 129

Animals have the right to get in my belly, and you can shove that communist red salute straight up your ***

Thank you!!! 💚💚💚💚💚🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

7 years later....ooops

Блять. Вот это вот про "не травмируйте других шокирующими кадрами когда" это моя_ любовь просто навечно. Меня_ так злоебуче бесит когда веганы на улице показывают детям и не детям эти картинки - и не говорят типа "дети и не дети не смотрите/закройте глаза мы можем поговорить о правах животных без этих кадров". Это просто так чётко висело на языке и становиться так понятно когда это говориться. И я_ наконец понял_ что это за хуйня была когда мне_ было некомфортно от этого - "ну это же животные, без этих кадров нельзя защищать животных! " эти фразы с "нельзя любить и есть"(блять, действия и чувства это не синонимы - можно любить и бить, можно любить и не контактировать можно не любить и не делать больно), "посмотрите тут животные вот эти"(сука, не нужно смотреть чтобы не делать. Достаточно нахуй знать - всё. Огромное спасибо я_ теперь пойд_у запрещать другим веганам и себе если что ретравматировать других людей. Пс. Ахуеннее всего это как птср во время войны(от новостей и тд. когда т_ы не на войне но вид_ишь это) и веганское птср - когда т_ы пересматриваешь кадры. Я_ щас об этом догнал_ и это просто восхитительно как работа_ет я_ в любви я_ в шоке очень рад_ что есть люди которые конвертируют эти чувства типа "некомфортно и странно я_ хо_чу уйти" в "это не просто "некомфортно" это травма ёбанный в рот. БЕГИ и не возвращайся к этим фактам и картинкам без надобности".

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In any free and democratic society, ideas need to be debated in order for progress to be made. In any healthy relationship, people should be able to debate disagreements, without taking it personally. If we don’t debate ideas, we end up with a lot of very bad ideas. If Martin Luther King had followed the advice in this video, segregation would still be around today.

Amazing super inspiring information which we all should take as principle of life

What a wise woman, such great insights into how human interactions work. Extremely useful information.

For those who cant be vego/vegan eat halal. We believe the same thing and have been practicing animal rights for a long time now. We believe regardless of race, gender or species we are all made from Allah(swt). It is a sin to mistreat an animal. For meat to be considered halal please research, as i dont wish upset those against meat. But for those who want to eat meat, please eat halal and so no to animal cruelty.

Amazing speech

It's year 2023 can some of you explain what's going on at the moment? I'm certainly missing something about the actual stage of affaires concerning but I don't know what.

The world most assuredly does not need that devilish doctor, Peter Singer.

This was amazing! Thank you

Men have done enough damage on this Earth that will be very difficult to bring back a fair world. One needs to be a superwoman in order to change something or to act as soldiers to fight the enemy. You have very good points there.♥️💙

Awesome thank you Elisa.

Because they are both retarded