Nice video but i it would be nice to know how are closed loop steppers are effeted by the belt tention ?
@frankdearr2772Ай бұрын
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@REKKnives2 ай бұрын
Excellent video thanks!! I may have missed it but how do I actually set my belt tension to a specific lbs? Is there a chart that converts lbs to frequency?
@GlimoVideos3 ай бұрын
How about CoreXY systems ? Can your calculator work with them ?
@MisterDeets3 ай бұрын
A better way of fixing this is just to rip out the control board and the stepper drivers and put in a better board with silent drivers. No noise from the drivers means no noise in your prints. That eliminates the need to replace all this mechanical stuff that truly isn't the root cause of the issue.
@shamancredible86323 ай бұрын
so basically, this video is an ad. Congrats, you just nullified everything you just said.
@Shaded3 ай бұрын
TLDR?
@JohnnyBuxton3 ай бұрын
If the frequencies are known, wouldn't it be possible to noise-cancel the motor's vibrations in-slicer or even in the firmware? If the frequencies are variable, I feel some sort of calibration wouldn't be too hard.
@ElectronicsPeddler3 ай бұрын
That's what input shaping does; Klipper firmware uses an accelerometer to generate a profile to inhibits these kinds of artifacts. The firmware will vibrate the X and Y axes and use that data to cancel out the vibrations. Do a search for input shaping with Klipper installed on a single board computer or the Creality Sonic pad which simplifies the installation and optimization of your printer and has some additional features you can't get with a single board computer.
@JohnnyBuxton3 ай бұрын
Far cheaper than buying new motors and over-engineered pulleys! Ordered a triangle labs board kit.. thanks for the tip @ElectronicsPeddler! 👌
@jjptech3 ай бұрын
Ok, but, what about any third-party reviews? I can’t find any
@tropenband4 ай бұрын
Toulouse is a City in France, no?
@DezoTuts4 ай бұрын
a motor tune couldve solved these issues
@awkwardsaxon94184 ай бұрын
How do you accurately determine tension by pitch? I find that plucking a shorter section makes a lower sound for example. Also don't use ai voice pls. Sounds really cheap. We don't care if you have an accent or whatever just record with your own voice :)
@mikelaurie38505 ай бұрын
Not a fan of computer voices
@Queracus5 ай бұрын
i mean 2 - 4 seems like a winner here, but it seems to be tested on snail printing speed. Everyone is pushing the machines to the limit where accelerations and deceleration are much bigger than what was shown in the axis simulator. In those cases your belt will start to slip on low tension.
@bleach_drink_me5 ай бұрын
Start of the video comment, under 1 min in. My method is use my ear and listen to the belt when plucked and run it and listen to the steppers. Run input shaper and adjust based on the results above. Lets see what they say.... I guess i am going to spend some time tomorrow messing around with my belt tensions and see whats best.
@Anon208555 ай бұрын
holy shit man this ad video was generated by AI three years ago , fascinating
@HarvickOne5 ай бұрын
loose belt definitely increase VFA, I spend days testing prints over 300mm tall, tightening belt will decrease VFA but cause layer shift on tall and narrow parts, while loosening belt reduces layer shift but creates VFA
@jeffschmidt6 ай бұрын
Do these experiments apply to CoreXY printers as well?
@HiTechDiver6 ай бұрын
Pretty good information, but I can't stand a computer narrating to me. How about an actual human.
@oneheadlight80006 ай бұрын
Does the prusa mini use this motor? It’s completely absent of MRR
@the-matrix-has-you6 ай бұрын
First All Aluminium V-Slot Profiles are the same so it can not be from frame... I am a engineer that has over 25 years of experince in Mechatronics.As you guys don't know what the problem is I can guarantee you the problem source is extruder gear alignment,hotend heat instability and even the same looking filament is not all same thickness every meter... 3D Printing is not a Precise manufacturing process.The nature of Additive manufacturing leaves the unwanted artifacts.Cause its nearly impossible to maintain every parameter same like filament thickness,hot end heat stability although the extruder gear shifting,pressure can be optimized but filament thickness shifting will still effect the quality...
@MikeJones_Official6 ай бұрын
Robot voice = Me not watching any video's on this channel
@skaltura7 ай бұрын
How about tensions vs speed, accel?
@skaltura7 ай бұрын
wow! That's amazing testing
@terracoon98827 ай бұрын
thank you, this really helped!
@BitSmythe7 ай бұрын
*EVERY* video with synthesized voice gets an _automatic thumbs down!_ 👎🏻
@mlab30518 ай бұрын
G-code imput shaper is very interesing.
@K3NnY_G8 ай бұрын
This is great content, but you probably see it in the retention rating that the text to speech voice over isn't going to do you any favors, I was basically out the door upon hearing it.
@platin21489 ай бұрын
Possible to also attach these motors to say a Anycubic Vyper?
@Akira.Nibbai9 ай бұрын
Can these motors be used on a voron 2.4?
@Lukylbc9 ай бұрын
Prusa be like🥱and then solving it him self while making bigger print resolution
@MiG82au10 ай бұрын
This should have more than 52k views, it's great.
@crooker210 ай бұрын
Get a real voice over and I might consider subscribing. Info is decent... But the annoying factor counteracts it.
@Plumpkatt110 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I painfully watched it. I wont watch it again as I cant take that voice but the info was appreciated.
@josephpk487810 ай бұрын
I hang a 20g scale weight from the center point of my X axis belts, then use the measurement between the 2 sides of the belt as a reference point to start with. For my Y axis belt, which is a vertical mount, I use a DIY 3D printed - open ended - wedge that fits between the belt and the rail - and use the deflection of the 2 sides of the wedge to get a reference point. As I run through prints, I use these reference points to adjust belt tensions. It takes time, but now I have a stable belt tension setup and my prints get great results.
@HopeHumorRelaxation11 ай бұрын
Thank You sir
@BikZom11 ай бұрын
not all heroes wear capes
@5jvm0u411 ай бұрын
Extraordinary, well constructed and executed experiment and video script. Thanks for the contribution to the community. This video deserves more views and attention.
@ArcanePath360 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if my belt tension is causing my extrusions on top layers to be looking good one direction but bad when it travels in the opposite direction? I notice it when I print a brim.
@ArcanePath360 Жыл бұрын
I heard that dual drive extruders make this problem worse. That's been my experience. My single drive older extruders were better than the upgraded ones when I bought the same printer years later.
@coltenmeredith889911 ай бұрын
That's not VFAs, but dual drive extruders do cause an interesting problem.
@ArcanePath36011 ай бұрын
@@coltenmeredith8899 The resonance from them causes vertical artefacts according to CNC kitchen and other channels. Something to do with the flaw in the way the second drive doesn't perfectly line up with the other. Or maybe it was Z banding, I can't remember for sure now. I've seen so many videos on it the last week.
@coltenmeredith889911 ай бұрын
@ArcanePath360 haha, so much information... Resonance causes ringing. Dual drive extruders cause a wood grain effect, it's from not having perfect concentricity. VFAs are from motors and gears, don't know why this happens. Z-wobble can be from lots of things, watch the creator of the hevort's videos
@coledavidson5630 Жыл бұрын
I get MRR at standard speed on my MPSM V2
@Exstaz Жыл бұрын
Need to update this for corexy printers.
@ruizhang9469 Жыл бұрын
could you please share the value of “belt test” in mk3. For normal user . We are hard to measure the lbs of belt like3.5 or 4.5. Thanks a lot.
@xsvforce3335 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
@amicloud_yt Жыл бұрын
If you want anyone to ever watch your videos you need to hire a real voice over person. This robot voice is unbearable. I cannot watch past the 20 second mark without wanting to die
@EngineeringNibbles Жыл бұрын
Very nice for voron v0! Looking forward to upgrading my motorsa
@BlindNeverAgain Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not just crime and drugs. It's corruption, nepotism and poverty too. Really really deep poverty too.
@fernandogopro Жыл бұрын
Not straight to the point!! It should be a 50 seconds video, you're very good, you should have two channels, one straight to the point, and this one for those who like expert settings
@Zemistr3D Жыл бұрын
So MK4 solved the problem by using your motors? Nice... 🤔
@MrBlackmidi123456789098765432110 ай бұрын
no, they use 0.9 degree motors
@Zemistr3D10 ай бұрын
@@MrBlackmidi1234567890987654321 So they solved nothing...
@MrBlackmidi12345678909876543215 ай бұрын
nost NEMA 17 motors have a 1.8 degree motors which most 3d printers use@@Zemistr3D