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@eldonscott9
@eldonscott9 3 ай бұрын
52:38 do you have a question?
@henkinensoturi
@henkinensoturi 3 ай бұрын
Thank you a lot for this presentation and discussion! I just started to study Fengshui and this was really valuable information for my studies 🙏🏼
@TheNeomaster15
@TheNeomaster15 4 ай бұрын
This book is terrible. It paints the narrative that a father is an oppressor when he is both present and not present in the daughter's life. Susan bounces between the psychology of the daughter and how terrible fathers are. Would not recommend.
@web7014
@web7014 3 ай бұрын
i also did not enjoy it. It was a highly ambitious book, among the first of its kind and it did not deliver.
@howlinthewilderness
@howlinthewilderness 4 ай бұрын
“I don’t want to give a presentation, I want to have a conversation.” Then goes on to read a scripted presentation for the next 40min. And still didn’t answer the only question😂
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t 5 ай бұрын
When I say Individuated soul, to speak I mean in a dialoge form, NOT a religious monologue, I hate seeinga Jung group where 1 speaker goes up and speaks 1 hour, CG Jung had this form, but it was early in his studies, no one had any clue back then of these mysteries,,, NOw forward 100 yrs, we can only experience new light via group dialogue. Even CG knew his monologues had issues, proving monologues are antiquated.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t 5 ай бұрын
Yes writinga book,,, then months later your studies give one new insights,,, = the bk is now DATED/OLD news,,, This is why I do not believe in writing books, I only believe in giving lectures, speaking EXTEMPORANEOUSLY,, on the spot,,, why??? bc the spirit is the source of our gnosis, WE have to wait on what The Spirit wishes to say at that moment,, If nothing, then a short lecture or maybe not at all. Books are onlya brief outline,, this epoch is moving too fast and furious. back in the early 60's things went slow, ,, late 60's things started moving,,, fatser , faster,,, and today, things change MONTH by MONTH,,, in some yrs week BY WEEK, in some decades days by day changes,,, in the next century, HOUR BY HOUR,,, Huge changes up ahead, Making book writing near obsolete. A essay ./abstract yes OK, Book form, only in history,, In psychology no, as the psyche is moving fast in certain INDIVIDUALS. Only the inviduated soul, he has something to speak as the spirit is upon him
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t 5 ай бұрын
Christianity is false, It is antichrist, Christianity = antichrist, major player in the Illuminati Agenda. The new gods are The New Paganisms and The New Nihilisms. No such thing as a new transformative God.. Sure a few are dumping all gods, and seeking a living faith,, But we are talking less than 2% of the world's population. All things are being tested put through fire, = most things will burn. as it is not of Yeshua's Kingdom.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t 5 ай бұрын
Yes THe New Self,,, sasme as Old timeless Self, Yeshua has not changed Yeshua is testing purfying, firing in the furnace all things,,, We are living ina a epoch of ***self** deception,, The Lie has gone forth. No one knows what to believe as all has some degree of The Lie. God via His Son wants to bring His Son's Kingdom on earth , thus those who are not of His Kingdom, must either bow to The Few or perish. Revelation's prophesies are comming to pass in our epoch. = Israel is under seige. = She will not survive as a government, Yeshua will be Israel's King.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t 5 ай бұрын
The Aztec sacrifices,,, EXACTLY what My post below reveals, The Illuminati Agenda is willing to sacrifice many of its slaves in order tio appease the Gods in order to give them more time to enjoy their wealth. = SAME as Aztecs, Now how about that, My below analysis of CV19 was spot on. Synchronicity. What I wrote BEFORE Renata shares on human sacrifice. I am a forensic psyche, I can see things no one else can see. Its a gift God gave me. This gift did not come easy nor FREE.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t 5 ай бұрын
The Evil breaking out all over the world, was foretold in the prophets and throughout the NT especially in John's Revelation. The 2 new fastest growing cults are The New Paganisms and The New Nihilists, Religion is dying FAST, in less than 50 all synagogues/churches will be clsoed OUT OF BUSINESS. We few who study Jung must be the torch bearers ina dark world, We must NOTTTT fight against each other. If God gives me light, do not be jealous, worse ENVIOUS of what God has given me, We are in the last final epoch of gentile rule and will be extremely difficult epoch. WE must pulll together as One, so that God can give us His Holy Light. God can only work via Unity, not division. Paul New Orleans
@malinga139
@malinga139 6 ай бұрын
The husbands of these daughters 😢we also need help in understanding Fatherless daughters better
@Carolleemakesthings
@Carolleemakesthings 7 ай бұрын
This was a great lecture/discussion; thank you all!
@killahtako
@killahtako 7 ай бұрын
But she’s not a Jungian.
@lightgrey5365
@lightgrey5365 7 ай бұрын
amazing lecture on a rarely addressed topic. thank you
@lightgrey5365
@lightgrey5365 7 ай бұрын
the picture of 'taking huge loans from the unconscious' was especially relatable
@maedero05
@maedero05 7 ай бұрын
To see people as persona is much more rewarding for people, societiy gender oriantated disctiction is only a way to distinc traditional biological procreation from people withalternative LHBT or psychological restricted people ! Western wold the fredom stands in great contrast to the cultural norm laid up by religious based societies ! Last some totalitairian states take away the freedom of one´s life conviction !
@metafive1
@metafive1 7 ай бұрын
Wow, this was incredibly good. Thanks for hosting and posting and thanks to Susan
@SharayaMW
@SharayaMW 8 ай бұрын
Sometimes I feel like I'm not affected by what my parents did, and then I listen to something like this where in the first 10 minutes I'm like, "I'm overwhelmed!" **Clearly I am affected. I'm sure my exes could attest to that, as well. To those who are asking about toxic mothers, you're heard, and your statements are valid, you clicked on the wrong video. There's plenty of content available on toxic mothers, the mother wound, bitter ex-wives, baby moms, etc. Obviously, just not in this video.
@loraienicols937
@loraienicols937 8 ай бұрын
❤ this was so powerful, thank you for illuminating 😊
@virginiabraden6849
@virginiabraden6849 8 ай бұрын
Jung cannot be understood intellectually or scientifically. Archetypes do not exist in the mind. They are the psychic energy of dreams. One cannot be a Jungian and a Freudian simultaneously. One must go beyond Freud into uncharted territory to understand Jung whose mind was open and in perpetual awe. Mysticism cannot be understood intellectually. He does a disservice to Jung here to try to fit him into a scientific paradigm. How can you fit a dream image into a paradigm. I have experienced all the archetypes in dreams, but I have never dreamed of a line. A line is not an archetype just as platonic ideas are not archetypes. They do not show up in nature or in dreams.
@virginiabraden6849
@virginiabraden6849 8 ай бұрын
In "The Red Book" he makes clear that his important work was a result of his early dreams. A line is an intellectual concept. I can create a line but I cannot create a dream. Dreams have wisdom and wisdom is not an intellectual concept. It is an instinct.
@Prospro8
@Prospro8 8 ай бұрын
Interesting, but if archetypal contents are not biologically transmitted, then what is the transferral receptacle from generation to generation? You're left with three general mechanisms, the biological/genetic, the historical/anthropological/geographic and the uncomfortable idea of transcendental multidimensional consciousness. If you dismiss the third (as here, and I think that to be premature, though I realise it's outside the scope of anthropological technique) then you still need to explain how the 'knowledge' passes to us. Maybe just by subliminal perception from the individual child's environment. The only possibility then becomes something like an intuitive mechanism that unconsciously 'deduces' either by directly passed down vestiges from parents, OR templates of unconscious compensatory behaviours and defence mechanisms that intuitively correct any deviation from basics. But what is the RECEPTACLE of generational transfer? I suspect a Hindu sage would say we don't need one, it's all in the Atman, but if that's not in the equation ('too complex for here' were the words used) then what aspect of physiological process or intuitive click makes the developing child pick these things up from his environment at all, let alone synthesise protective 'wisdom' about it? A lot of this is about definitions. The definition of 'instinct' for example.
@garybradshaw8348
@garybradshaw8348 8 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to provide details of books referenced in this talk. Thanks
@lizettebuckle5343
@lizettebuckle5343 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Susan. Really insightful. I hope my question gets to jou. I want to know from a divorced house hold, how can a mother try and assist the daughter in this healing process going forward? I am against men coming and going in my life and a more stable father figure would be ideal. I don’t have family who we see often enough for that. So what kind of tools can me as a mom equip my self with to teach her to still have her identity without a father figure.
@christopherebhabha
@christopherebhabha 9 ай бұрын
Amazing video..
@arumginika6826
@arumginika6826 9 ай бұрын
How do i get this book ,please ? I really do have great interest in it .
@web7014
@web7014 3 ай бұрын
Buy it?
@maurico20
@maurico20 10 ай бұрын
What about the absent mother effects on sons? or rather absent father effects on sons? This is a big debate that should not tolerate biasness.
@bitssoriASMR
@bitssoriASMR 7 ай бұрын
Absence of fathers in men's life can lead to mother complex where he becomes a mamma's boy and fxxkboi
@veronikaljungberg7149
@veronikaljungberg7149 4 ай бұрын
Thats probably for another video? 😊
@web7014
@web7014 3 ай бұрын
then write it. jesus
@kristiedonovan7007
@kristiedonovan7007 3 ай бұрын
That happens obviously a lot too but I believe the fathers are concentrated on due to the fact that women have a makeup ( are usually born with & parent with & protect with) of the most nurturing sex between the two of male & female. It’s been this way since the beginning of time, even in the wild this is shown. If you were to research, statistically speaking, this is far far more the issue not in just the coutry but the entire world & only continues to grow ….
@neo23thirty-eight
@neo23thirty-eight 10 ай бұрын
Another Amazing lecture!
@hermitfool8119
@hermitfool8119 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I've just started reading your book and so many things make sense.
@Liyah-encyclopedia333
@Liyah-encyclopedia333 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! So insightful
@josseric
@josseric 10 ай бұрын
The author is still trapped in the myth of the "absent father", rather than the reality of the kidnapping mother. Everyone agrees on the enormous detriment of children without fathers. But when you try to explain that it can be easily remedied, with simple reforms, that restore natural rights to fathers, over the objection of feminists, that's when they have a problem with it.
@mxjvhmula3597
@mxjvhmula3597 9 ай бұрын
I’m not with you on this. This is not about fathers who actively want a relationship with their children and from a nearly hour long video, to get this is insane.
@roielsboutique7471
@roielsboutique7471 9 ай бұрын
This topic doesn’t pertain to males or scorned fathers.
@SweetestNya
@SweetestNya 8 ай бұрын
The issue you have is not being addressed here. You’re looking for an explanation that is not even relevant to this discussion at all. I hope you find what you are looking for.
@TiggyTiger4
@TiggyTiger4 3 ай бұрын
She's saying fathers should not be absent.
@joshrivera2456
@joshrivera2456 10 ай бұрын
Powerful. Thank you.
@veronikaljungberg7149
@veronikaljungberg7149 4 ай бұрын
Yes very
@wadegasque
@wadegasque 10 ай бұрын
What an enlightening conversation. I am a Pacifica student and hope to incorporate these ideas into my clinical work. Thank you, Mary, for your scholarship. And thank you Stefano for organizing. Just purchased the book!
@Nojgrossnickler
@Nojgrossnickler 10 ай бұрын
“There is joy to be had, in knowing how to find Balance” This, is what I have known but have yet to understand. Thank you
@MichaelDamianPHD
@MichaelDamianPHD 11 ай бұрын
It seems that Jung was opposed to the idea that any human being can be said to represent a realization of "Pure consciousness" in which there is no "ego" anymore. And he would be right. Because by "ego," Jung did not mean vanity or persona. He meant that which organizes and manifests a personality. Corbett ostensibly believes that there are human beings who "have no ego" and I think by now we should realize that's all nonsense. Even if you lose "the sense of separation" that doesn't mean you exist as "nothing and no one" in any absolute sense. Jung was simply pointing out that there is no absolute which any human being can be said to represent. Is that not fair?
@sydney456
@sydney456 Жыл бұрын
approx min 25:00 --- Yes, Consciousness can be Unconscious - Jung made no mistake there. In other words... === The Self, which is Consciousness, CAN BE partly Unconscious.=== It makes *perfect* *sense* for anyone that experienced this state... every night! Consciousness 'falling' into a partly unconscious state is called... 'Sleep'. (just an e.g.) To be fair... many experience this Sleep-state of Consciousness at day time too... but let's not go there 😂 Anyway, great presentation Dr, thanks 🙏
@BryanHeise
@BryanHeise Жыл бұрын
I'm 37 and love psychology ❤ just looked it up on to see if it exists great job 😀👍🥰
@A_n_y_t_i_m_e
@A_n_y_t_i_m_e Жыл бұрын
This explains everything. Thank you.
@virginiabraden6849
@virginiabraden6849 Жыл бұрын
Also, Jung found inspiration in DT Suzuki and Zen as he was dying. I believe curiosity was his motivating force throughout his life and it did not fail him on his deathbed.🕊️
@virginiabraden6849
@virginiabraden6849 Жыл бұрын
When you say the conscious cannot be unconscious of itself I believe Jung said that you are not the unconscious. It is a thing apart from the self. That realization is a part of the individuation process. Reference the Baynes translation of "Two Essays on Analytical Psychology." What I find interesting here is that this distinction separates the instincts from the self for the archetypes are instincts.
@veritaslux644
@veritaslux644 Жыл бұрын
It is extremely abusive but very common for a father to replace the role of his wife, and place the daughter in the position of a type of mistress (usually not advancing to a sexual relationship for fear of being caught, but having an extremely inappropriate relationship none the less)! The husband and children then neglect or even leave the wife, rejecting her like trash, because husband rewards the children with his fake “love” and affection but only if they reject their mom at his lead😢! This is very common! And when the children grow older they either continue this abuse of the mother, or finally they realize how wrong they were and are very upset! They need to repent and reconcile with all those they abused and neglected so they can become emotionally free of horrible memories of joining dad in abusing the mother unjustly! Children are easily deceived by their father, into turning on their mother, in order to please their father in an effort to gain his ungodly approval and ungodly attention!
@lemongate4869
@lemongate4869 2 ай бұрын
And many children are manipulated by their mother who turns them against their father. Bitter women, using their children to wound their father.
@veritaslux644
@veritaslux644 Жыл бұрын
I have worked with many families and the only mothers trying to get the daughters away from their father is when the father is abusive (emotionally and physically) and unsafe for the child and mother (in all cases they were involved with pornography or drugs)! And even these abused mothers had forgiven their husband and were/still are willing to reconcile and reunite if the husband would repent and stop being abusive towards mother and witnesses by the children! Deserting and neglecting the marriage and children being the most common abuse, with father/husband betraying the family and others through seducing other women he lies to convincing them that his previous wife/girlfriend was the unloving wife/mother/girlfriend who forced him to Ieave them!!
@mynonmignon
@mynonmignon Жыл бұрын
This is complete rubbish. Many parents, unfortunately, use their children as weapons against the estranged spouse. What you are suggesting is that women are uncapable of this. That they are good per se. Very problematic and dangerous thoughts.
@Iamany.Batuan
@Iamany.Batuan 6 ай бұрын
@@mynonmignon I agree the caüacity to be horrible people lies in both genders. Can we please stop always victimicing women. Women can be perpetrators too.
@mynonmignon
@mynonmignon 6 ай бұрын
@@Iamany.Batuan absolutely! We've come to a point where society won't accept that women can be evil, too. Teaching our children that men can be dangerous and women are the good ones. It is ridiculous. Gannon Stauch comes to mind. His father thought he'd be safe with a female caregiver. Women are capable of everything men are capable of. This needs to sink in.
@goblindrums700
@goblindrums700 4 ай бұрын
Damned liar! Satan's server. Misandric hoe....
@virginiabraden6849
@virginiabraden6849 Жыл бұрын
I can't help but wonder if the collective unconscious isn't collective but a personal unconscious carried over from past lives. Considering Jung knew D.T.Suzuki I am surprised he did not wonder about that. Or perhaps he did but could not bring himself to undermine a lifetime of work.
@aufderscholle
@aufderscholle Жыл бұрын
I recommend you to read "Memories, Dreams, Reflections". He wrote a few passages in his partial autobiography that was written at the end of his life, that shows that he considers the issues of past lives and that his collective unconscious might be personal in this sense.
@allenmeyer2912
@allenmeyer2912 Жыл бұрын
👍 P R O M O S M
@virginiabraden6849
@virginiabraden6849 Жыл бұрын
I find the Bolingen series to be unfaithful to Jung's real self in that it does not portray his inclination t XDo prefer the feminine nature. For whatever reason Jung found to subtly express this predisposition, it was integral to his truth. And it has tragically been discarded and lost to the world. I have the original translations by Baynes which I read in the 70's and am presently inspired by this video to do a reread of his "Two Essays." I read tarot based on the concept that the major arcana are archetypal mana energies so I discovered this video when I googled "mana." I also have Esther Harding' s "Psychic Energy." And I am dedicating my romance novel to Karen Horney who saved me with "Self Analysis." Hello. Nice to discover you Mr. Beebe. Virginia Braden
@DavidKolbSantosh
@DavidKolbSantosh Жыл бұрын
Time stamps are invaluable...you should have them on your videos.
@sonyab2925
@sonyab2925 Жыл бұрын
I didn't want this to end... Thank you so much. The script is very powerful and I will come back to listen it.
@szoya5365
@szoya5365 Жыл бұрын
Another reason why I must have gotten blood cancer...
@johnsims8543
@johnsims8543 11 күн бұрын
Can you explain ?
@JeffWildZug
@JeffWildZug Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the open and honest discussion. In particular about the difficulty of identifying if a task is from the Self or not?
@danstevens1024
@danstevens1024 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Lionel for the best presentation on this subject that I have found over the years. Your ability to discuss controversial subjects objectively and charitably with people of various perspectives is very inspiring. Something that I will aspire to emulate. Thank you for a career very well lived. A blessing to so many.
@cavejelly
@cavejelly Жыл бұрын
No idea how I came across the channel or lecture but I loved it.
@tonnypomiklo4579
@tonnypomiklo4579 Жыл бұрын
AUM: The mantra is composed of three sounds, namely [a], [u] and [m], the first two of which form a diphthong. These three sounds are said in the Hindu tradition to denote the three primary Hindu gods: Brahma the creator, Vishnu the maintainer and Shiva the destroyer. Alternatively, they are also sometimes said to denote the three states of mind: waking, dreaming and sleeping.from: da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum