for those that wanna include hornsent, just don't summon him during Messmer's fight.
@TheNewGuard13 күн бұрын
1:22 even mimic got the assignment and infues his mace with you
@UkrGaz3 ай бұрын
Lol this was not easy for me at all, all i had was Ansbach vs leda, hornsent, moore, dry leaf and Freya.
@darkseidofapokolips97963 ай бұрын
You’re terrible.
@sokhon65903 ай бұрын
If only my bois Alexander, Blaidd and Iji were here.
@KaletheQuick4 ай бұрын
Just cant get past this fight. Really upsetting. Once dryleaf and Leda show up im just running forever. Tough to find a moment to attack. Though idk who this Thollier guy is. Ive tried to find ways to the east and southeast of the map, but have yet to find access.
@zaidlacksalastname49054 ай бұрын
I had the same fight but with Hornsent instead of Freja. It was unforgettable. They were willing to die to create a kinder world
@marcialnimbus4 ай бұрын
new and improved Gank Squad!
@megu81094 ай бұрын
Personally I wish once we defeat everyone but leda all the summons leave and I could 1v1 her to the end it
@smite58014 ай бұрын
3:29 Dane: Miquella with me, but who against me?
@donnymcjonny65314 ай бұрын
Loved this fight but drylead is a damn menace in this fight. Constantly rushing, can barely get a hit in, constanty low on stamina
@JellyJman4 ай бұрын
PSA do not go what I went through and just summon. This was the most bullshit boss fight in the entire DLC to do solo. I spent over 3 hours before giving up and just using a katana bleed build. Seriously this is such a joke. Most of them have 15k HP and heal. Hornsent’s nuke also one shots you even at 20 blessings and 60 vigor!!!!! This is unironically the worst boss fight to do solo. I was having fun in the dlc until this shit, I will never complain about the DS2 gank squad fight because this is 1000x worse. I was so close to just summoning because they literally have 76k health combined! That’s more than Radahn! On top of that they can heal! I had to look for the Alberneric pot cookbook just to stop them from healing. PCR was way more enjoyable than this 1v5 gank fight. 76k HP???
@darymanzueta88754 ай бұрын
You do realize that your supposed to summon in the first place.
@JellyJman4 ай бұрын
@@darymanzueta8875 if that’s the purpose then why don’t they just join automatically?
@darymanzueta88754 ай бұрын
@@JellyJman Beats me 🤷🏽♂️
@creeperYT98242 ай бұрын
@@JellyJman if you dont summon ansbach and thiollire their questlines fail and they are not summonable for radahn and you cant get their gear, this indicates very well that they are meant to be summons, the reason they dont summon automatically is so hardcore souls players could get a harder challenge, but hardcore souls players are not whiny bitches like you so why didnt you summon on the first place?
@creeperYT98242 ай бұрын
@@JellyJman if you dont summon ansbach and thiollire their questlines fail and they are not summonable for radahn and you cant get their gear, this indicates very well that they are meant to be summons, the reason they dont summon automatically is so hardcore souls players could get a harder challenge, but hardcore souls players are not whiny like you so why didnt you summon on the first place if you are that impatient
@Mort30004 ай бұрын
I love just how reluctant everyone is to fight each other. They all would rather not kill each other, but everyones interests conflict with each other, so they have to fight. Theres only a couple that habe anything mean to say but most of them are complimenting each other and revel in the fight. Its all so epic but so heart breaking at the same time. Easily my favorite moment in the game and is a nice reward for going after all the questlines in the dlc
@Primalinstincts1015 ай бұрын
This entire DLC actually convinced me to start using summons more. None of the previous Fromsoft games had this effect. Amazing!
@joeblogs80495 ай бұрын
The age of compassion is an utter fraud, finally getting to kill Miquella and his cretinous lickspittles was very cathartic.
@MrDdGANGER5 ай бұрын
I kinda hate myself because of this trash game, miss npc questlines = get fucked no epic battle .....
@unknownbenefactor80295 ай бұрын
In my fight it's. Leda, Freyja, Dane, Moore and Hornsent Vs Vargrin(me), Anbarch, Thiolier, Jolán and Anna. I wish Igon could help me but.... Battle with Bayle The Dread took a great toll on the great drake warrior...
@anlata99995 ай бұрын
Got everyone in my run , it is a 5 vs 3 fight
@matesquilos29155 ай бұрын
if you summon all the allies, this battle is absolute cinema
@Nizzeman875 ай бұрын
I never met thiollier on my first run. Only fought Leda and Dane at the end. Moore is alive and well, but when talking to him he says that no one comes to visit him anymore except for me.
@ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣΔΗΜΟΥΛΑΣ-ο5ο3 ай бұрын
Did you just rush the bosses? Didn't you explore at all? In my first (and for now only) play through I pretty much did everything. The only one missing from that fight was hornsent because I summoned him for messmer.
@basickarma01585 ай бұрын
I just did this and turned it into a 5v5 with my buddies by accident
@geross46085 ай бұрын
In my 2nd run of the dlc I killed all the npcs before the leda fight but for some reason I was able to summon a npc named Nataan, that was odd
@minimeg5 ай бұрын
yeah I think you can summon him if youve got neither ansbach or thiollier. It's nice for if you (very understandably) completed none of their questlines since this IS still a gank fight
@geandrayuga71355 ай бұрын
Idk, why there is sanguine noble be my ally?
@edithprince53055 ай бұрын
Fucked up hornsent’s quest cuz I didn’t see his summon sign in messmer’s arena, even though he’s not that strong, one more enemy made it BRUTAL
@fl-ri-5 ай бұрын
I did, and summoned him. I logged out right after the fight before talking to him in the boss room and he up and disappears, failing me the quest. Jank shit
@ToniTiedemann5 ай бұрын
Absolut the best Figur in für Dcl , i have have so fun by this
@zacheryburgett16025 ай бұрын
Wow if this isn’t one of the worst things they’ve ever made
@v0ldy545 ай бұрын
How people pretend to like this shit is beyond me, even the quest sucks since it completely breaks if you simply decide to explore the map in a slightly different way from what they intended, absolutely ridiculous
@xboddy78635 ай бұрын
1st playthrough - 4 v 1 2nd playthrough - Me , Jolan and Anna , Ansbach and Thiollier vs Leda and her allies
@joelluna33865 ай бұрын
This fight agains Leda and they allies vs you, Ansbach, Thiollier and your Mimic If William Regal had come out just to say: "WarGames!" would haven been the epitome of From Software
@elijahfrancis88455 ай бұрын
if you get 2 player followers and then do all the quests it becomes complete chaos
@senorkaktusz59405 ай бұрын
Why do you have to break my heart, Miyazaki... I have never wanted to hurt Sir Moore...
@mausebas5 ай бұрын
Thiollier standing up from the jaws of death/eternal slumber to fight for St. Trina final wishes is some geniunely great shit tbh
@zepherdog40105 ай бұрын
This truly is Dark Souls 2 2 2, with the gank squad and all.
@crabby65495 ай бұрын
Relly cool fight in concept but terribly terribly overtuned for thouse who tried a summonless playthrough. I felt forced to summon the only guy i could an my mimic to have a chance. Afterwards a beat radhan in 4h so is not like am bad or my build is bad, is just not a realistic fight to do by yourself and is annoying because thats the theme of what i wantet my character to be. This sucks because next time i know that the best way to do things on a future playthrough is to just kill all npcs when i get the chance and dont care about any quest
@justnick2005 ай бұрын
For those having major problems, use the greatshield soldiers +10 ashes, they crowd the allies enough for you to get your hits in
@ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣΔΗΜΟΥΛΑΣ-ο5ο3 ай бұрын
Or listen to me; do the questlines and actually summon the two friendly npcs the fight is designed around
@raydstacked5 ай бұрын
I'm trying to figure out my cooperators for this fight... one was Throllier and the second one I can't remember the name but he reminded me of a Black Knife Assassin 🤔
@johnragmailcom5 ай бұрын
Dryleaf Dane, "I didn't hear no bell."
@Marluxiaify5 ай бұрын
I didn’t finish any of their questlines, so I ended up being jumped by EVERYONE.
@DarkRei75 ай бұрын
Even Thiollier and Ansbach?
@DarkRei75 ай бұрын
@bugasugar6876 i fucked up leda moore and honsent's quests
@Twinskullz5 ай бұрын
To be honest I have all 3 NPCs here to fight . And besides talking to them at sites of grace I never interacted with any of their quest. @bugasugar6876
@uncleulysses23285 ай бұрын
I’m confused how this works. I got all 5 accept ansbach and tholier were available to help. Does this mean I did the quest right or is it possible to have a 7v1 npc fight cause I literally was forced to summon a black knife, tholier and ansbach for the 5v1 shit was impossible
@Marluxiaify5 ай бұрын
@@uncleulysses2328 The 5v1 is the worst possible outcome if you didn't complete certain questlines. You'll be able to eliminate the Hornsent, Freyja, and Moore if you go through certain routes in each of their questlines. Hornsent can be invaded or summoned during the Messmer fight, Freyja simply leaves if you don't give Ansbach's letter and then defeat the final boss, and Moore invades if you kill any of the friendly Rot Pests or if told "I don't know" when he tells you his trauma dump.
@kevinsmoon32575 ай бұрын
One of my favorite things about this fight is how the sandy floor is so clean yet towards the end it just becomes a bloodbath It all becomes so tainted
@wvknn27095 ай бұрын
Good god this fight was terrible...
@guilhermegigeck59465 ай бұрын
ganks fights always are
@rdc44615 ай бұрын
This fight is amazing
@v0ldy545 ай бұрын
@@rdc4461 no
@Mastermatt2875 ай бұрын
This was definitely a fight to remember. It was so badass I did not want to finish cuz of how it played out. I fought hornsent, Moore , and dry leaf Dane on my playthrough, with thiollier and Sanguine noble. Was doing summon less but this fight you literally NEED them because it just feels right to have them fight by your side
@ivanstayner88185 ай бұрын
I got moore in my fight. And it was really sad. The first thing he said when he entered was "You and I, fighting, what tragedy this is."
@ImWhyMortalsCry5 ай бұрын
Bro is the most evil Untouchable Gets no damage And throws Hefty Scarlet Rot pots
@hairlessgrizzly5595 ай бұрын
I targeted him immediately cause he's such a fuckin tank, and left everyone else for my Mimic, Ansbach, and Thiollier Hornsent too, but he was easy to take out, being as weak as he is, but that homing projectile spell he does was one shotting me I wish Moore could've sided with us, but it makes sense, he wants to do what's best for the Forager Brood, and given what we see in the Haligtree, being such a mishmash of misfits, Miquella's age of compassion would've been the best case scenario to Moore
@gel13a4 ай бұрын
And the fact that he says "Sad, forever?" When he dies... Broke ny heart
@ivanstayner88184 ай бұрын
@@gel13a That broke me. When he said that. It broke me.
@jmiquelmb3 ай бұрын
Yep, that’s my favorite line and I think the only one missing in the video
@JoseRosas-dy1rb5 ай бұрын
Am i the only one that fighting moore was really sad
@turnipmanz17545 ай бұрын
I felt significantly less sad when he spammed rot pots at me
@Micahman395 ай бұрын
@@turnipmanz1754😂😂😂
@JoseRosas-dy1rb5 ай бұрын
Tru dat
@UltraStarWarsFanatic5 ай бұрын
All you need to do to get Hornsent to enter the fight is not summon him for Messmer. That's it.
@Dayz3O65 ай бұрын
dude is insane, Leda was right about a guy on revenge, if you dont summon he want you dead, if you do summon he still want you dead. In my play I aid Leda and help Ansbach afterward.
@HeliosThor645 ай бұрын
@@Dayz3O6 Leda is just as insane. Woman be killing everyone the moment she thinks someone might be going against Miquella.
@andresc6895 ай бұрын
i lowkey thought that by progressing ansbach/ freyja's questline that they would ally with me, but got hit with despair when this fight popped up and was worsened when moore popped up. pain
@mynamebashbarti6 ай бұрын
Man the tears were flowing with this one, luckily I did all the quests and got the most epic fight. Seems like you are missing hornsent
@frostyshimo83256 ай бұрын
Yeah, check description. If you interact with his questline, sadly he does not seem to show up.
@Anes-pi2lv5 ай бұрын
@@frostyshimo8325because you fight him at the bud's grace (a lil bit behind on the staircase)
@frostyshimo83255 ай бұрын
@@Anes-pi2lv Yeah either that or you invade him with leda :(
@purpleyellowrosa53635 ай бұрын
@@frostyshimo8325 I think his questline glitched for me in that he didn't show up after we fought Messmer together. so I never triggered his dialogue, and he never invaded me, which means he was ready and waiting to gank me with Freyja at the beginning
@thedopekingtdk31595 ай бұрын
yeah I didn’t know about Mesmer till after I killed Romina so mans just disappeared after I killed him
@aceshigh38596 ай бұрын
not gonna lie this was one of my favorite moments in the dlc
@frostyshimo83256 ай бұрын
Had to do a second run to not mess up the quests but it paid off
@odslight37916 ай бұрын
you are a joke
@mausebas5 ай бұрын
this is the peak of the dlc for me
@gel13a4 ай бұрын
@@mausebasYeah. The fight got me so deep that I became regretful, felt like I was fighting my real allies. After Moore, when he says "sad forever" I could not continue. I sat back and watched my friends fight each other. Didn't feel like a victory but it was an amazing moment... Every quote, every move and the soundtrack? Man, "Those united with common cause" is one of my favorites in the whole Souls music.
@corjonbett7 ай бұрын
Called her vs Charon "No hard feelings, Mr Charon, sir?"
@alchemicalguns7 ай бұрын
when is this option unlocked? what affinity level? what other prerequisites are there?
@Wearemanyyouarebutone7 ай бұрын
Keep em going, bud. Now I need Melinoe and Hecate.
@VoidSpill8 ай бұрын
Thought this was happening bc I was playing the console version instead of the pc