What do you want me to say that im pissed ok im pissed you lied to me again
@edwinjusto57396 ай бұрын
One quick thing castiel should still have his wings, he wasn’t casted out, his grace was removed and metatron send him to earth and then casted out all the angels, so when he got his grace back he should have had his wings, as it was being casted out that damaged all angels wings
@blanktrigger88636 ай бұрын
This show post-S5 would have been so much better if they let Dean and Sam finally split up and had two branching stories that would converge again, occasionally. There were too many moments like these that never lead to real consequences that the two had to grow from. I remember even when they announced the show was continuing after S5, I disliked seeing Sam return to Dean and then Dean losing family because of it. It was also a missed opportunity for him to empathize with his dad, finally. He never learned to understand the importance of training his family to protect themselves because the writers took the easy way out.
@fionapower13196 ай бұрын
Dean would do anything to save his brother x
@jordonwood-1310 ай бұрын
0:22 Again.
@jordonwood-1310 ай бұрын
0:20 You lied to me.
@nataliee.parker2873 Жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who thinks that Kevin's death was NIETHER of their faults, right???
@buti3906 Жыл бұрын
I understand both sides, but gosh Dean should've given him a proper apology
@cookwithus6267 Жыл бұрын
agree on this one guys supernatural's great at making us fan feel sorry for both the characters at a same time ... i mean isnt it beautiful how we all seemed to get BOTH of their stories and feelings despite the fact we all know winchesters are never the one with all feeling sharing crap and 'chick flick moments' but still we all get the roads and paths they were standing on ... its like we have known them since forever which is to very extend TRUE in itself ...<3
@HBQ2 жыл бұрын
it's so interesting to see in the fandom that this situation mirrors so much of charlie's death (sam did go against dean but charlie wanted to do it too, here, dean went against sam's wishes and Kevin was the price) but the fandom only blasts sam. also to everyone talking about how dean didn't have a choice, his love for sam is probably the best thing about him, but sam has his whole history of not having control over his own body and autonomy, which is why he was so hurt here. and he's done things he never meant to, so Kevin in his head was just another thing. sure it wasn't him, but I'm pretty sure he's always gonna think it was
@oindrila1013 жыл бұрын
Cas looks like a kid whose parents are getting divorced.
@DioBrando-jw6cw Жыл бұрын
He in the back staring like 🧍♂️
@azahora223 жыл бұрын
I was looking for the part about "I tell myself I'm doing it for the right reasons". I can't help but picturing them in the mcu n I think they fit in just fine there.
@fioridipesco3 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't help but to feel incredibly sorry for both of them. Plus, Dean's speech and his costant self-loathing in it makes you realize even more how emotionally broken and destroyed he is. And it honestly breaks me to realize that.
@Lyokogirl7893 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there are any more fight scenes or scenes like this that not only involves Sam and Dean but Castiel is there too.
@FosterC1443 жыл бұрын
If Sam knew he might have freaked, ejected the angel, and died I don’t really see why it’s a big unforgivable drama myself 🤷🏻♂️ dean will give anything to save Sam, no matter what the cost I bet most of us wish we had someone who loved us that much
@SonnieSuicide3 жыл бұрын
"People get close to me, they get killed" -Enter charlie-
@3kylajsmith3 жыл бұрын
Sam has been violated so many times, he has every right to be mad and I love Dean and know what he has been thorough but he needs to stop with the brooding martyr crap. It never ends well. People reach out to him all the time but he acts like he is all alone. At least those two idiots are starting to talk to each other, they are so good at being closed off and not dealing with anything it is a start at least. I think we can all agree the biggest victim here is Kevin. I never liked how he was treated and even after death he got screwed.
@valerie97853 жыл бұрын
How can it rain but they aren't getting wet?
@kenunot61063 жыл бұрын
Ah yes divorce Of course Sam got Cas' custody, predictable
@marymartindale8843 жыл бұрын
I would've thought Dean would get custody of Cas. Not in a Destiel way. The only ship I liked with Cas was Megstiel.
@kllk12ful3 жыл бұрын
1. I don't blame Dean at all for doing everything he could do to save Sam because I know all to well how far a big sibling will go to protect their baby sibling because a few years a go I was diagnosed with Aplastic Aniema and the only cure was a Bone Marrow Transplant and my big sister was my bone marrow donor 2. The reason why I was annoyed with Sam during this season was because even when I was tired during my recovery even when I was bored out of my mind because I was under so many restrictions I never NOT ONCE yelled at my big sister or tell her that I didn't want to be her sister anymore in fact she managed a way for me to able to watch Finding Dory on the computer because I couldn't do to an actual theater and we would spend a lot of time together when she came home from work
@BabyScatha4 жыл бұрын
Yeye pity party Dean Winchester. Sam had all the right to be pissed and Dean never truly apologized, instead went on this pity ride. Great...
@missolsen28484 жыл бұрын
Its weird looking back at this now.. Anyway Im so happy they got through this one too.. They always found back to each other ❤️
@natt23194 жыл бұрын
Sam, when taking the trials: This is a suicide mission for you, Dean. I’ll do de trials to show you the light at the end of the tunnel. I want to LIVE and so should you Sam, in the s8 finale: doesn’t finish the ritual, choosing life instead Sam, now: Dean i was CLEARLY READY TO DIE convenient change of mind right there sammy
@rahaa.sh_3073 жыл бұрын
In s 8 both brothers were so moody. Dean went from blaming Sam for quitting hunting (even more than purgatory thing) to suggesting him to go back to Amelia. And Sam went from abandoning Dean in purgatory & talking about going to normal life again & again to be willing to die rather than letting Dean down again. But in s 9 Sam chose death because the last time he came back, it had a horrible result so didn't want it to be repeated again & only came back because of Dean.
@gokuafrica4 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is Dean never "burned" for Kevin. Infact Kevin burned in hell 🥺
@xxwhispersxx28564 жыл бұрын
I love that the comment section is actually quite civilized and has good discussion rather than a mass of Dean girls blaming Sam like in every other video that has Sam standing up to Dean.
@heeerooo51244 жыл бұрын
Did you watch season 10 ? Coz sam did the same thing to save dean , in S9 because of saving sam they lost Kevin & in s10 in the process of saving dean they lost charlie ( saving dean from mark of cain) and in the process of saving demon dean sam had to sell a man's soul to summon crowley to get back dean. Sam's pure intention was to save dean but accidentally that guy's soul was sold because of sam and he died with dean's hands (situations reversed) sam killed kevin accidentally because dean wanted to save sam and dean killed that man in s10 because he was a demon and sam sold that man's soul accidentally in the process of saving dean mission and Charlie died too and dean blamed sam for that like the way in S9 when sam blamed dean for Kevin's death. Summary : S8 : sam and dean both agreed to choose each other instead of closing the gates of hell coz one had to die ( both choosed each other) S9 - dean accidentally killed kevin by Sam's hands ( process of saving Sam) S10 - sam accidentally killed an innocent man by Dean's hands. (Sold his soul accidentally in the process of saving dean) S10 - sam accidentally let charlie die in the process of saving dean from the mark of cain. S10: to save dean sam set darkness free and started an apocalypse again. S10 ending - finally both choosed each other once again
@rahaa.sh_3073 жыл бұрын
@@heeerooo5124 S 9 is my least fav season of Sam but in this scene he had every right to be mad. I don't blame Dean at all but what they did for eachother were not really the same. Dean used Sam's love for him to trick him for possession, remember? He actually got Sam's body involved, Kevin was killed by Sam's own hands though it wasn't actually him, the guilt is not really the same. Not to forget Sam had absolutely no choice but Dean had also got Crowley in his trunk but didn't get to him after Gadreel arrived, he could do thtat too, you know! Neither of them blameworthy for me, but not that similar either.
@buti3906 Жыл бұрын
fr
@joycebrown2864 жыл бұрын
He always loved sam so much and couldnt bear to lose him...
@joycebrown2864 жыл бұрын
This one breaks me apart every time. Dean didnt mean to hurt Sam
@Sanaa_K_Mohamed4 жыл бұрын
Everybody talking about poor Sam or poor Dean but me poor Castiel, stuck in the iddle of all the awkwardness, having to choose a side.
@AndreaCanales254 жыл бұрын
I completely get Sam's pain and feel of betrayal, but I just can't help to side with Dean. I really get his reasons, and a lot of you don't, which is just sad tbh. If Sam was willing to die, was because his state of mind, at that moment, was just in a huge hole of depression. He felt worthless, he couldn't forgive himself for letting Dean down so many times: he was suicidal. And I really think no one would ever let any suicidal loved one commit suicide because that would be just wrong. Instead, you would help them. Let them see they are, in fact, worthy and deserve to have a life. And that's exactly what Dean did. He looked for a way to save his brother from committing suicide. If he would've told Sam the truth about the possessing thing, he knew he would've said no, but not just because he was going to be possessed, but more for the fact that he just didn't want to keep living. And Dean knew that. That it didn't really matter the method, Sam would've still said no. That's why he decided to trick him and save him. He saved him from his own mind. Yes, he should've told him the truth later on, but he knew how Sam would feel and he didn't really even know how to tell him. Besides, he tried to tell him before, but Gadreel kept on threating and convincing him not to. So I think the actual big problem here is just Dean's lack of explanation. If he would've explain himself, his reasons and his thoughts, plus apologizing with Sam for not telling him the truth before, I think the story would've been different. But c'mon! We know how Dean is. He doesn't talk, not about everything. It's just not in him to do it. So yeah, my heart just broke for him. He looked so hopeless. He did what he had to. Maybe not in a way Sam would've wanted to, but his intentions were solid. Plus, you guys have to remember how broken Dean is. You seem to forget that easily. John literally raised him with the only goal of always look out for Sam. That is his job, the only one he has, the only one he knows how to do, so he would always look for a way to help him and do what he thinks is the best for him. Yes, it may be seen as an obssession, that he is too dependent on Sam, but that's how he was raised. It's not his fault. Sam is a grown man, but for Dean, he would always be his little brother. Don't get me wrong, tho. He knows Sam is strong and capable of leading and taking difficult choices, but in situations like this, Sam would always be his priority and would always go back to be his little brother, the one he must protect. Seriously, sometimes it feels like you guys hate on Dean and that makes me feel like he is certainly the most incomprehend character of the series. Not a lot of you really get Dean, and is really sad. Because if you do, you will realize of how a good human being he is. As Cas said "he is the most caring, selfless and loving person ever". There is just not other human being on earth who loves, cares and protects the ones he loves like Dean does. No one. And that's why he is simply the best man in the world, as same as the best and most complicated and broken character of the series. And I truly love him for that.
@altinaykor3644 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you!
@kllk12ful3 жыл бұрын
Also to the people who bash Dean for this clearly don't know what it's like to have to watch their little siblings health slowly decline and not being able to stop it to have to see their little sibling lying on the hospital bed dying I would know because my Big sister was in Dean's position with me because I had Aplastic Aniema back in 2015/16 and by the time I had my Bone Marrow Transplant I was pale and tired and almost on the brink of death (My Big Sister was my Bone Marrow donor) so I understand and sympathize with Dean's actions because how is what Dean did any different to what my big sister did for me
@heeerooo51244 жыл бұрын
It's really annoying how people see dean in a bad way , I'm not saying dean is always right but this situation ? sam said before doing the trials he expect a win win situation like ( both are alive! ) a light end of the tunnel type of a situation , but not dean ! ( He saw it as a dead end situation and wanted to do it by himself) sam asked dean to trust him this time (sam wanted to fix things as a payback due to the things he had done before , eg; the apocalypse ) so dean did support sam. That time before ending the ritual dean convinced sam that sam is not guilty so sam wanted to live and decided to stay , he agreed to stay with dean! but after he went to coma he decided by his own in his dream to choose death even though it's not his time , he said to dean that what dean has done was selfish by saving sam, he did that because he doesn't want to be alone ,okay let's say yes then and what about sam? his decision was selfish too , he gave false hopes about a win win situation even though dean never see it that way and sam failed , even in the second trial remember what happened? they have to save an innocent soul from hell and send to heaven that time sam was stuck in purgatory with bobby if dean couldn't save sam without benny's help how are they going to complete the trials and have a win win situation according to sam? He failed to do it alone somehow without help. he couldn't save himself if dean was not there for him. Sam's always willing to sacrifice himself without a proper plan because of the guilt he feel inside , even castiel realized it while sam wanted to torture himself by castiel. Sam has this feeling to sacrifice himself to make things right. and My point is most of the time when sam asked dean to trust him with his doings he couldn't succeed . He trusted ruby , killed Lilith & etc. Even he couldn't succeed in these trials and have a win win situation as he mentioned to dean. What happened to sam is not good but all that happened to him was because of his false hope of a win win situation to a lie that made by metatron, and it's not sam's or dean's fault, and then Sam failed and he chose death. Isn't that selfish ? After saying dean that he'll stay with dean? (Dean's happiness = sam being alive , Sam's happiness = rest in peace ) REST IN PEACE AFTER GIVING FALSE HOPES ABOUT A WIN WIN SITUATION TO DEAN AND FAILED ? If things are going to be like this why sam asked dean to trust him in the first place? he should have listened to dean and let him do the trials because dean knew one of them is going to die , and dean doesn't want sam to be dead because he knew sam's mind sam wanted to live a normal life (sam is not obsessive like dean if he can make a decision to move on with life he can do it) that's why he stopped searching for dean when he went to purgatory. In this situation Sam couldn't win as he expected then he failed then he broke the promise to stay with dean , dean was hopeless and emotional he doesn't have any choice and it's normal to act that way. Sam leave that choice to dean. In this situation they had no agreement ( when sam went to lucifer's cage dean kept his promise not to bring back sam from hell even though he wanted to because they had an agreement. ) , if sam doesn't break his promise to stay with dean then dean will not feel this much of guilt because of what he did to sam and all that happened. Even though sam doesn't want to be alive gadreel saved both castiel and sam even though he killed kevin :/ I love both sam and dean but this time sam was rudely hurt dean's feelings and I feel an ache in my heart for dean :/
@thruthemotions4 жыл бұрын
Sam and Dean were written so hyprocritical Dean also gets mad at Sam for saving him when he doesnt wanna be saved yet ignores when Sam tells him the same thing. I guess when it all comes down to it both of the brothers say what they dont mean when they're angry but at the end of the day they know damn well that they can't live without each other.
@boy_leaves_world4 жыл бұрын
The song?
@maryezell44744 жыл бұрын
Okay but Cas watching them from afar is the fandom in a nutshell.
@Maddie.d3264 жыл бұрын
But what was the problem. Sam said the problem wasn’t dean being poisoned sooo
@rahaa.sh_3073 жыл бұрын
I think he meant they're *both* poisoned or sth like that.
@Maddie.d3263 жыл бұрын
@@rahaa.sh_307 gotchu! Tyy!
@wakkywabbit54464 жыл бұрын
1.1 and 11 ⭐
@alleyfrog17294 жыл бұрын
A lot of people keep saying "look from Sam's POV" "Sam was willing to die.". Literally there's been so many times Dean was willing to die and save the world, but Sam didn't approve and always did something exactly like what Dean would do to save Sam. So, technically, they both could let the the world burn to save each other.
@deadrock16784 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why the writing sucks in this show they're both hypocrites and AGAIN they redid this in Season 15..
@Dazzlefae5 жыл бұрын
You know what pisses me off most? Even now, after everything in Season 14 with Alternate Michael, Dean hasn't apologised for this... Even now that he understands what possession feels like and how terrible it is, he hasn't apologised to Sam for taking that choice away from him, for taking away his free will...
@lammyjimmy78164 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more
@Dazzlefae4 жыл бұрын
shdhdnsna smsmdsnsn It’s just so sad. Dean has apologised for some things, but there are SO MANY things he’s not apologised for. Sam apologised for literally everything. Even things that aren’t his fault. But dean still hasn’t apologised for the thing that he did to hurt his brother the most... 😔
@athira29664 жыл бұрын
@@Dazzlefae Hmm like what? Dean apologizes if he has anything to truly apologize for. When Sam didn't look for Dean in S8, it took him 4 seasons to finally sincerely apologize. And as for this, Dean did apologise in the finale.
@rahaa.sh_3073 жыл бұрын
@@athira2966 You're right about Dean's apology but s 8 Sam literally cried for Dean's forgiveness & chose death over letting Dean down again, not every apology has to be *I'm sorry*, there are many ways to show that & Sam nailed it in the s 8 finale as well.
@Shiksha-e2w5 ай бұрын
@@athira2966 When did Dean apologise? Could you tell the episode
@kjellringstrom62175 жыл бұрын
Just a detail, I know, but when Dean is such a good mechanic, why can´t he give that pore bonedry doorhinge som grease?
@amberxv47775 жыл бұрын
I really disliked Dean here. Instead of apologizing he just wallows in self pity like a drama queen. Sam is the one who got possessed, Kevin dies but Dean just feels sorry for himself.
@LeafGreeen5 жыл бұрын
I normally like sam but in this sense I really hated him
@xxwhispersxx28565 жыл бұрын
Why? Dean was an ignorant selfish person here. Why does everyone hate Sam for wanting to make choices about HIS OWN LIFE?
@Dazzlefae5 жыл бұрын
Sam was completely right in this whole situation. He's had his free will taken from him so many times, and Dean knows it, and then Dean goes and takes it away from him *again* by tricking him into possession. He lied to him about it for so long, and it made Sam concerned through a lot of it when he did so, because Dean pretty much made him feel crazy for thinking he's missing time or whatever, when there's a real reason why and Dean is the cause of it. Then Dean goes on to have a pity party for himself, not even acknowledging the pain he caused Sam by doing this...
@annexsis51814 жыл бұрын
Why sam has the right to be mad at dean. Dean made a mistake that ended in Kevin dying and a rogue angel sam completely and dean took Sam's choice away I get why dean did it he loves sam too much to let him die but it was pretty selfish and I'm saying this as a dean girl who mostly takes Dean's side
@Anasyub5 жыл бұрын
FUCK I LOVE THIS SHOW TO DEATH MAN
@amberxv47775 жыл бұрын
I don't blame Dean for saving Sam against his will. Sam would have done the same despite his claim. But what I hate is that instead of feeling guilty or trying to apologize, he acted like the victim. It's always about his emotions and how he feels. The problem isn't that he's poison, it's how he's absorbed in his self-loathing to even notice how Sam feels.
@marymartindale8843 жыл бұрын
That is another example to me of the writers having them say things that don't make sense. It contradicts everything they have said and done in past situations and future ones too for that matter.
@redrose8656 жыл бұрын
Dean :I didn't have a choice !! I wasn't going to let you die !! And the only answer is I was willing to die .. like that makes it ok or acceptable !!?. how are we supposed to give up on our loved ones and just let them go?? I get why sam is angry I do understand how he feel specialy after the damage that he has done . . But why cant he understand where dean is coming from? And in later scenes accusing him of being too afraid to live alone ?? Wtf ?? Dean's love and sacrifice for sam is far more than anyone has ever did and after that some calls him selfish or he did not respect sam's wishes!!! That is the worse feeling in the world :( :( But on the other hand I do feel with sam and his pain is justified mabay its just one of those situations were u only need to say sorry and hope for forgiveness!! I hate it when they fight :( :(
@bigbywolf13306 жыл бұрын
The fact that Dean is never going to let Sam ever die in peace is so sad. Dean needs to get over the fact that he’s not failing his brother if Sam dies, he’s only bringing more pain to him and himself. He treats his brother as if he were a little kid and that was suppose to change since Season 5, but clearly that’s no longer the case.
@sklingen216 жыл бұрын
We forget the big picture here. Yes these scenes always suck and are sad but without them they will never be as strong as they are now. They will always find their way back
@Phoenix13Rose6 жыл бұрын
I would follow him wherever he went. I wouldn't stop. If being a part of their lives means I get killed then so be it. Safety is overrated and boring. At least I'd actually live with them and when I die, I know they'd remember me and my life would mean something. And I'd never allow them to beat themselves up about it.
@celinewinchester47636 жыл бұрын
😢
@chaisensei6 жыл бұрын
Sam has the right to be angry at Dean, and Dean shouldn't have done what he did. But I guess many people are forgetting that Dean is broken. His whole life revolves around Sam. His father made sure of that "...most importantly, watch out for Sammy" Without Sam, Dean wouldn't know what to do. It's like a huge chunk of himself has been taken out. We saw it when he was with Lisa and Ben. Dean isn't the same without Sam. He also said this to Sam "Watching out for you, it's kind of who I am. That's my job." (Paraphrasing) Sam is his anchor, his purpose. He'd literally throw everything away just to make sure Sam is okay, whether Sam approves or not. So should Dean apologize for keeping Sam alive by getting him possess? No, because in his POV that's what he should be doing. Is he wrong? Maybe, but if he didn't do it then we wouldn't be watching season 14 😋😆😉😊
@7SonsofFeanor5 жыл бұрын
I think you've summed it up perfectly - from Dean's point of view, there's nothing to apologize for and he'd do it again, because it was the right thing to do. He knows Sam's mad, but.... But from Sam's viewpoint... possession, loss of bodily autonomy, not knowing what's real or what isn't....Sam has a long history of that all being taken from him, and now his 'stone number one' who he was supposed to be able to rely on to keep that all at bay has tricked him into accepting possession. That's...that's a really heavy betrayal. Dean not telling Sam about Gadreel (until it was too late) is a betrayal on the same level as Sam not telling Dean about drinking demon blood. Sam had a lot of reasons why he was doing that, too....didn't make Sam right. Dean had his reasons for talking Sam out of shutting the gates of hell - but that doesn't make Dean right, either.
@nina-raedelong1585 жыл бұрын
When the writers brought up the fact that Sam and Dean's relationship is codependent, the show proved that to be accurate. I think Sam's codependency on Dean ended in season 4 when Sam chose Ruby. Season 9 has plenty of examples indicating that Dean is a codependent caretaker: being Sam's savior, being unable to have a happy life without Sam, making decisions for Sam without letting him have a say, treating Sam like a child instead of a grown adult, being unable to accept Sam even if that's his choice, and believing Sam is his responsibility when Sam is a grown man who is responsible for himself. I think when the Mark of Cain comes into play and Dean needs to be saved, I feel like Sam will learn to appreciate Dean more.
@songstress425 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with that. Dean is Sam’s brother but he’s also his parent. He’s been Sam’s parent since Mary died and it’s just instinct at this point. It was so ingrained in him by John to look after Sam that Dean doesn’t know any other way to be so he’ll do literally anything to keep Sam alive. Which we’ve seen play out more than once on this show. The problem is that Sam doesn’t see Dean as his parent, just his overprotective older brother and since Dean isn’t able to articulate the fact that he is acting as Sam’s parent at all times, they are constantly misunderstanding their own dynamic.
@thruthemotions5 жыл бұрын
True. Dean is like a mom to Sam. And father. He'd rather die for Sam than the other way around. Parents hate for their child to die before them and Dean is the same way. Sam is his world. With Sam dead he feels like he failed as an older brother cause its been his job (order, given by their dad) to keep Sam safe and he will do that until his very last breath. He literally feels as if he has no purpose without Sam like you sad whereas Sam would go live with a lovely lady and have a bunch of kids on a farm somewhere after Dean dies.
@nina-raedelong1585 жыл бұрын
@@thruthemotions Even if it wasn't an order, Dean would still protect Sam of his own free will. Season 8 showed that Sam would be okay if Dean died, but he wouldn't be the same. However, Sam was a mess in the season 9 finale and in the season 10 premiere when Dean died then he was gone. "Prophet and Loss" showed Sam's grief with the thought of losing his brother. He had to hit and yell at him and start crying to convince Dean not to go into the box. I think having Jack around helped Sam to understand Dean's perspective. Now that Sam understands what a home and family feels like.
@alcudiababe16 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's necessarily about lying, it's about getting the choice ripped out of his hands. I get it. Dean didn't want his brother to die, so to him there is no other choice. I feel more sorry for Dean here. Even though I get it, I get what it's like to make your own choices and someone else comes along and takes that choice out of your hands
@whereweare94944 жыл бұрын
That’s the equivalent of rape/regardless that’s from just the physical or mentally. I feel really sorry for Sam’s trauma
@joycebrown2864 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! The mistake Dean made was not stopping to think how Sam would feel.