I see two things I will correct before the width of the stand. First, he is inclined with little angulation partially due to the wider stand (but not entirely), so he is not transferring the weight to the outside ski. The stand can be wider at the apex of the turn to deal with pressure, but the leg should be semi-extended and CM further into the turn. This is not the case here. Being so wide on at the initiation or finishing of the turn is a problem for managing ski-to-ski pressure. Second, his upper body presses the front of the skis from initiation to the end of the turn. He never entirely transferred the pressure to the center of the ski or the tails at the end of the turn to create some rebound to help with the transition. The main issue is the upper-body management

I do not get the footbeds at all, as human uses heel, toes and ball of the foot whatever they do. If you fill that arch, the risk of pushing nerves and veins and even tendons rise. -and I do not get the ramp angle on boots and bindings either. Women using hig heels do not have any forward lean, they stand straight like any of us. Actully ramps are making you ski leaning back. And I do not get people saying you get tired standing on forward lean boot, as you can relax and leave the job to boot, just trust the tongue of your boot. If you get rid of lean, where is your power to carve coming from? If you have straight boots or just stand straight barefoot, try to put power down, try to jump? No can do. You have to have tilted knees to have any power downwards with your muscles.

So what would be the optimal stance alignment starting from the feet going up? Also do you want to be in your athletic position when checking the stance?

what happened to this channel? what a shame!

You need to fix the audio

Only one person talking?

@SIAAustria Are there any specific boots or brands that cater to those needing boots with lower ramp angle?

Guys YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT; you are comparing two guys going AT DIFFERENT SPEEDS. Gravity pulls from the sides at high speeds, and it pulls from the front at slower speeds, hence the different body positions. SPEED changes everything.

Gravity is your friend, technique is everything, the ski width is less important than ski flexibility (or alternatively, I guess one could always use a toboggan 😅)

"...was that radius that you always see written on your ski like R 17, obviously if you can bend it more you can take it down to maybe 13..." The radius printed on the ski is not a measure of the radius of the turns made and does not allow any statement to be made about its exact measure. At least on racing skis, the design-related bent edge when the ski is unloaded and resting with the running surface on the ground has different radii. The radius specified for the ski, usually printed on the cover sheet, refers to the radius of this edge curve, i.e. the sidecut radius. However, this measurement applies mainly to the middle part of the ski. There is a relationship between the factory-specified sidecut radius and the possible size of carved turns. A ski with a radius of 12.5 m allows much tighter turns than a ski with a radius of 25 m. With the same edge angle, the ski with the smaller sidecut radius will have more air under the middle of the ski when unloaded, with the tip and tail on the snow, compared to the ski with the larger sidecut radius. If you then load both skis perpendicular to the ski surface, the ski with the smaller sidecut can bend further because it takes longer for the middle section of the edge to touch the slope. Consequently, for both skis with the same edge angle and sufficiently loaded, the bending line of the ski with the smaller sidecut has a smaller radius than the ski with the larger sidecut. However, the actual turning radius of a ski depends on the amount of the edge angle. The higher the edge angle, the more space will be under the middle section of the edge and therefore the more the ski can bend, resulting in tighter turns. The maximum edge angle, and therefore the tightest carved turn, is achieved when any further increase would cause the boot to touch the snow, resulting in a boot-out. Each edge angle corresponds to a specific curve radius and the smaller the sidecut radius indicated on the ski, the tighter the smallest possible curve will be. However, the ski radius is a measure of the sidecut of the unloaded ski and not, as is often wrongly assumed, a measure of the radius of the bend line that the ski edge gets when it is bent in a specific edge angle with sufficient load until the edge touches the slope over its full length. It would of course be very interesting to create a series of measurements to find out what radii the bend lines of loaded skis with different sidecuts actually have depending on increasing edging angles up to the maximum possible angle. Then you would at least have a rough idea and also a comparison of which turn radius is actually possible for a ski with a sidecut of e.g. 30m, 25m, 19m, and 12.5 m at different given edge angles and you would also see whether there is perhaps a certain edge angle at which the radius of the sidecut and the actual turn radius more or less match. To find the radius of a uniformly curved line when there is only one segment, you can use the following method: Chordal Distance: Measure the straight line between the two endpoints of the segment. This line is called the chord, and we denote its length as 𝑐. Midpoint Perpendicular: Measure the distance from the midpoint of the chord to the closest point on the curve (the arc). This is called the midpoint perpendicular, and we denote it as ℎ. Radius Calculation: Use the following formula to calculate the radius 𝑅 of the bend: R equals C squared divided by eight h plus h divided by two R= c²/8h+h/2

At the 13:00 mark, you nailed what happened to me on my first time out skiing. The rental boot felt decent, and about 10-15 minutes out on the slopes, I had the worst pressure points and burning on the outsides of my feet. It was so bad I could only ski for about 90 minutes and then spent the rest of the day at the bar on the slope with the boots off. The following day my feet were in so much pain I could barely walk.

Typical euro anal obsessive teaching technique more obsessed with doing it a their way than making good skiers.

This Is the amazing video! Watch this if you want to improve your hockey stops!

I absolutely agree, outside ski dominance on ice is an overused and often misleading mantra.

I ski 3 x a week all summer at the Chill Factore in Manchester and will be spending 3 weeks in Sankt Johann in Tirol from 4th Jan 2025 and 3 weeks in Kaprun from 1st March 2025 I watch your videos over and over again and find them Wonderful, I look forward to hopefully spotting you or one of your groups in Kaprun next March. Keep up the great videos. William Garnett

brillant !

Hi guys. First of all, I’d like to say thank you for all of the content. I only started skiing in the last year. But I really enjoyed watching all of your videos and podcasts. I noticed there were none last year. Is there any chance that these videos will be returning for the new season? thanks very much. Enjoy the rest of your summer.

studying here at chile

I think he needs to focus more on the balance on his outside leg and work on a narrow stance by focusing on his inside leg so it's as light as possible and not rush to push it forward too early at the end of the turn.

I don’t think Steve understands the importance of his ankles and really how they will work for him. And all of the conversation won’t turn the lights on. A coach could demonstrate so that he can develop the proper feeling

goggles up, nice ski instructor, visual contact very important

greeting from Chile, the season starts recently

not a big fan of the double pole drag drill it promotes bending at the waist

I'm only 34 and i would say if you have injuries from early 20s or overly-tight muscles anywhere, don't sleep on stretching, foam-rolling and addressing those issues or, I imagine, it will be chronic and very hard to fix later on.

Love Geri’s skiing

Agree with both of you. Left foot is the stronger due to better separation. Left footer you could be better separated and you use your muscle 💪 to finish the turn causing moving to inside and and pinch of rotation. Ski more powerplow and snow plow on steeper terrain to maintain separation on weak side.

Don’t know why this popped up on my feed now but. This is the very best explanation of ski boot fit and anatomy I’ve seen on KZbin. The only other place I have read this stuff (other than when I’m boring a mate with it) is on David McPhail’s Skiers Manifesto blog which has sadly now gone, it was the richest resource of science based boot theory and the only other place you’d hear someone promoting pronation! The number one reason boot fitters will tell you you need a rigid supporting footbed is to prevent pronation. Couple that with the generally accepted theory that the foot should be constrained in a rigid box and the boot works a a lever operated by the lower leg and you have the misery snd limited chance for improvement for most recreational skiers who have gone into a shop and been fitted for a boot! I’d given up on anyone who understands that the foot has to function, that it needs to pronate, that the ankle must not be restrained and that the Natrual arches work like the blade on a prosthetic used by disabled to return energy. I haven’t been brave enough yet to go flat but the footbeds I use are minimal and flexible so the foot can work and isn’t locked.

fuckin Paul ruined that spoiler position eh? classic Paul

Only Paul is a serious person in this vlogcast. His intensity probably irks unserious people? either way, looks like he's handling it with finesse.

why are slopes so crowded 😂

sounds bleak :(

Two parts and over thirty minutes of discussion huh? Are you sure about that? Seems a lot like a "basketball player" jumping up and making "a dunk" or whatever it's called. I mean, maybe you should spend another thirty minutes offering a scientific analysis of those foreign concepts too. Jumping off a floor? That's very difficult for us non-kinesiologists to understand.

As a 53 year old decent intermediate skier but expert snowboarder I find that it is still possible to improve all aspects of your skiing/riding in your 50s. I know I wont be able to charge as hard on a board like I did when I was 25 (and nor do I want to take the big risks I took back then) so today I focus on my form - I use my Insta 360 camera to help analyse my technique and it has helped a lot. And of course KZbin is a wealth of knowledge that we didn't have back in the day. I find skiing development slightly trickier as I learned much later in life (really just so I'd enjoy spending time on the snow with my wife and kids as they learned) and it does shows me that the bits of the brain that are wired for learning get a little more rigid as you age. What I would say to any 50yrd old looking for a challenge is to try the "other" snow sport to the one you do today. There are a ton of transferrable skills and knowledge that make the transition a lot easier than you might imagine - and if you are feeling a little bit jaded with your sport it might fire things up again.

Worst is getting hurt. Last year in Tignes - first morning, 2nd run I had a minor fall and broke my hand and hand was in a plastic cast 2 hours later. Same day - out on the snowboard in the afternoon, binding failure resulted in massive stack and I tore my ankle to shreds. Spent the week in the pub. I think it' dangerous to generalise about entire nations when it comes to quality of your holiday. The 2 weeks I've spent in Austria over the years left a sour taste because I've never met such a bunch of miserable and rude ski instructors in my life - this was at Obertauern and St Anton and it really put a dampener on the experiences of the beginners in our group. But I can't paint the whole nation's resorts as bad as I've only been to those two. Over the last 35 years (across France, Italy, Austria, Switzerland, US & Canada) I'd say my best trips were to Chamonix, Val Thorens, Les Arcs, Jackson Hole, & Whistler.

apriril 1 to angulate you inclaine hips legs down--- uphill hip up upper body down hill insaide hip squere to down hill ski without any ankles knees forwart flex flat skis durning lateral movment edge set after complete hips inclainedl legs uphill flexing pelvis to angulate you finish on down hill ski you start new turn without up movment you are total opposite you start turn from uphill ski dumping legs hips upper body as one unit flexing insaide leg downto prevent falling uphill raight way is i swing may uphill hip up same taime upper body hip down hill insaide hip back reverse hip steering right turn rotate right hip back left turn rotete left hip back leading w.c.racers have hips range 45 degrees forwart 60 degrees backwart all of them rotate back durning lateral transition squre insaide hip to outsaide ski staple angulatet upper body begginink of the turn not end

may stance is cuff forwat lean 12 degrees foot boart ramp angle -0-invertet -1 -degree cuff -1-outwart reason to increase reverse hips rotateing square hips durning lateral inclainet legs to insaide of the turn insaide hip up outsaide hip upper body down hill separated waist to prevent flexing ankles durning lateral set edges to soon and dump upper body up hill hip down i set edges apex of the turn from flat skis after complate lateral not partial evry turn finish and start new turn from down hill ski not up hill i dont flex ankles i rotate from edget set skis to flat in lateral transition i flex hips and pelvis forwart down to set edges insaide hip back down to recenter to flat skis accelerate out the turn down hill not on edget skis on daiagnol

Love the comments about having some rocker in the front part of the ski. I'm a snowboarder who grew up on stiff full camber boards in the early 90s so for me it's full camber or nothing. But when friends ask me what kind of board to start on I invariably recommend something with some element of rocker at the front - "cam rock" it is sometimes referred to. Easier turn initiation and reduced chances of edge catching makes a big difference when you are trying to progress quickly.

I think some of us are just genetically predisposed to be good at some of these "balance" type sports - like some people just seem to be great at any sport involving a ball. I'm in the camp that finds surfing, snowboarding, skiing etc. easy but my wife's family are all in the ball sports group - and I suck at those despite playing football being my lifetime number 1 sporting love by absolutely miles. My kids take after me and are great skiers but suck at ball sports. Their nephews are all ball sports kids in contrast. Funny old world.

Self catering for me every time. Cheap breakie, cheap packed lunch, then a choice about whether to stay in or go out each evening. And if you are driving to resort you have the option to visit a supermarket before you get to the mountains. My family are all outdoors types - we camp and hike all year round in the UK. When on ski holidays we have no interest in significant luxury at all - it's just eat, ski, eat, drink, sleep, repeat. Clean and tidy accommodation with a good mattress and I'm happy. I've had multiple weeks in the past sleeping in my campervan and snowboarding every day.

I have all my own snowboarding equipment but myself and the family do rent all our ski equipment on our annual ski trip - I split my time 50/50 between boarding and skiing. We are all knowledgeable enough now to know what is and isn't a good ski boot fit (within rental limits) and even the kids are not shy to ask for something different/better. My wife has custom footbeds and brings those on holiday with her as well. My tip is just to ask for another boot - and keep asking. Be polite is all it takes.

The first skier was absolutely making carved turns. Not to be confused with a person making railroad tracks which is not only Not skiing, but also a great way to wear your knees out by forcing them farther into the turn that your upper body is leaning. Skiing is the tips of the skis bending and making a turn down the hill with the tails sliding around because your weight is leaning down the hill over the tips of the skis. What designates a carved turn is when you anticipate the new turn by aggressivity throwing your upper body down the hill and in the opposite direction the skis are presently going. "Your skis are making a right turn, and you throw your body back into the fall line to the left which creates a quick and drastic leg angle change which sets the ski on a hard edge. This will reduce the amount of tail sliding, but it will still be there because you are leaning over the tips of the skis and the tails are slightly lighter. The harder you lean into the turn, the less sliding there will be. But it is Never the ridiculous act of making Railroad Tracks and calling that carving. The second skier was doing the same thing. Watch the upper body make a quick move down the hill and how quick her legs change their lean and how steep it is. The quicker and harder the lean, the more the skis will be on edges but there will still be tail sliding, just not as much as you would have if the body change were less aggressive. In summation, if you eliminate Railroad Tracks from the description of carving, all turns are sliding turns, but to different degrees of the skis angle to the slope. Go here and watch Ligety make a hard carved turn here. "Ted Ligety - the limit of carving skiing." Even though his skis are almost perpendicular to the slope, his weight his much more forward over the tips and the tails will tend to break away whenever the snow gets harder.

Way over contrived skiing. Hip dumping. What's with the airplane arms?😂😂

I am going to address only one thing you said that created all the things wrong with this teaching. You said skiing is complicated. Skiing is not complicated at all. What you have to do to allow the skis to turn is incredibly easy to understand and do. What complicates skiing is the lack of understanding of what skiing is, With the INSTRUCTOR, not the student. Learning to ski is made complicated by the instructor's as they just describe what the byproducts of a correct turn instead of teaching what you have to do to create those turns. Here's the simple analogy that describes the problem. If you were teaching a person how to drive and steer a car, you Wouldn't tell them how the drivetrain, braking and steering system work, you Would show them how to use the accelerator and brake pedals and how to rotate the steering wheel. Think long and hard about that and then go back and listen to what instructors teach you. They teach you what parts of your body look and feel like during a turn, not how to make them look and feel like that. To explain the common cold to you, they tell you what the symptoms are instead of describing the virus. In even simpler words, the worlds instructors look at skiing in Two Dimensions and then teach their Reaction to what they see and feel. To actually create a real teaching method, you have to study what skiing really is in Three Dimensions or from an engineer's point of view, and then THINK of a way to teach a person how to do it so they clearly understand what is needed not just describe what it looks like. You can't mimic what skiing looks and feels like, you need to understand what is needed to create turs and stop and do that. Everything that is needed is the opposite of what comes naturally to ma student so understanding skiing is paramount in achieving the best results. You won't get that anywhere on this planet. Not from any teaching method, anywhere.

2:50 This was the best one. Notice the vertical upper body which helps to pull up and unload the inside leg so it can remain parallel to the turning ski which she can be completely balanced on. 3:19 All the rest made like an airplane, banking their shoulders into the turn which loaded the inside ski too much so the outside turning ski had no control of the turn. A vertical upper body that is facing and leaning down the hill while you quickly change your weight from your downhill to your uphill ski, will allow the skis to turn as designed. It also keeps skiing very simple, and the moves are easy to remember. "I want to go straight down the hill, get off my right foot. I want to go straight down the hill, get off my left foot." His explanation of the problem doesn't explain it at all. They aren't "Pushing" the turning ski away from them, they are leaning into the turn too much which loads the inside ski too much and the turning ski slides away and down the hill because there isn't enough weight on it. So, it Looks Like a push but isn't. You don't steer the ski with your foot to make it turn, you just balance on it and IT will make the turn which will turn your feet. All that up and down business explains and teaches nothing. Again, you have to fix the upper body positioning by keeping it simple. Imagine your hands are on the handlebars of a bicycle. When you want to make a turn, point the front tire down the hill and quickly change your weight and balance to the uphill foot. You don't think about turning, you just think about what the skis require from you to allow the skis to make the turns for you. 6:30 This is ridiculous. Skiing made hard. This doesn't teach any of the body movements in skiing. The weight change motion, that he isn't even teaching, is not an Up motion it is a down the hill motion. from a balanced position on the turning ski, you stop the direction across the slope with that turning ski and face and lean it down the hill. The skis keep going but the leg angle changes, and the skis roll over to make the new turn. I'm done. I don't have to see anymore. The world's ski instructors see skiing backwards, so their teaching methods are backwards. It's as simple as that.

I've always loved this discussion, but now with a bit more experience, I wonder: is it an unwillingness to incline more (as Tom hints at @ 3:45) or an inability to "hike the hip" that is blocking higher edge angles? For me, Tom's "Hand Drag Drill" was a way to safely achieve more inclination at the start of the turn: it turns out I had no trouble moving my hips to meet the angulation needs even at the new, much higher edge angles. My brain just reflexively balked at inclining more. Whereas when I tried to hike my hip my overall turn shape became rounder and the pressure against the outside edge stronger ... but if anything the stronger angulation, applied too soon, stopped me from inclining further.

8:06 Nice positions of the poles bro. Wannabe ski-instructor LOL. I didn't see anyone THAT bad at my first instructor course (Antwärter), and if I had I would have laughed my ass off. Seriously. Anyway, the level of the rest of the group was fairly low as well, so I don't know who he is talking about when saying "better skiers". Nobody has ever taught these kids to carve aka ski properly and they want to instruct? wow.

Excellent video! I was a bit surprised by one thing though, and it’s the one thing I was hoping you would spend more time on. Maybe you have another vid on the subject? It wasn’t until the very end you started addressing lateral canting under the foot. I was hoping to get more in depth on this. Specifically, I’m trying to firm up my knowledge about the jargon used by bootfitters: “over edged and underedged.” I think I understand the objective is to optimize weight distribution over the ski laterally so that you have equal access to both edges as needed? I know some bootfitters (hard to find) will plane the boot sole and use wedges below the sole, thick side in or thick side out, as needed. Or wedges under bindings for touring setup. What really confused me in your video, was that after your explanation about why footbeds can be a bad idea, (I agree), the only intervention you showed for lateral stance alignment correction was an inside the boot, under foot adjustment. Can you share any information in this seeming contradiction in your approach? Or direct me to other videos of yours I may have misssed. Love your content. You are great, thanks!!!

It is so misleading.

Over 50 years we where ahead of this.

Your transition is awful.Try to work with the forces rather than fighting them.