I was also a former Christian missionary and deconverted for similar reasons. I find it easier to stop thinking or talking about religion altogether. I live my life now as if I never was a Christian and as though Christianity and other religions don't exist. My family and relatives and former church friends know I'm an atheist. As soon as they start talking about religion, I change the subject to something else, usually music, which makes for better conversation. I also am not part of any in-person or online atheist or non-religious groups because that would still remind me that I used to be religious. Doing this gives me peace of mind. Once in a blue moon, I do listen to podcasts like this simply to hear of people that had similar experiences to me. But sometimes in order to move past an abusive relationship, it's better to forget you were in it.
@chrisr3592Ай бұрын
Great interview. I can relate viscerally with Mary's foray into philosophy. It's the next best thing to living a good life. Hey Mary I recommend the book The Dream of Reason by Anthony Gottlieb. Better if you can get the audiobook.
@pacificbob24Ай бұрын
Is the Graceful Atheist going to make a comeback? I used to enjoy it. Thank you, David and Arlene.
@BAsed_AFroАй бұрын
I’ve heard from countless individuals that regret getting the covid jabs, who stopped getting more. And I've talked to hundreds that have had zero, and not even one regrets their decision. In fact, the vast majority agree that not participating in this is one of the best decisions that we’ve ever made in our lives.
@BAsed_AFroАй бұрын
The fact that the covid drugs quite obviously failed to offer immunity to anything, renders the term "anti vaxxer” moot.
@juba95755 ай бұрын
Interesting story
@karencruz59886 ай бұрын
Love this !!
@markcyphus32928 ай бұрын
While I accept the reasons for Matthew’s de conversion, yet I don’t see why the basis of the issue hangs on Creation OR Evolution. It is quite possible to believe in a God of Creation and to believe that he chose to create by an evolutionary process. To read the Genesis story literally is to misunderstand it. The Bible as a whole is a mixture of allegory ,( Genesis eg) history, ( Acts eg) poetry ( Song of Songs eg) and more.
@yoso58511 ай бұрын
I can see how a non believer could desire to be with a believe, but the other way around doesn’t seem to jive with most doctrine.
@karlu8553 Жыл бұрын
Such a great conversation. I miss Jon's voice in the faith deconstruction and faith/nonfaith dialogue spaces. But am glad for him if he has found more peace immersing in other projects amd pulling back from these conversations
@silverlining7602 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I hope you are still interviewing people :)
@HidingFromFate Жыл бұрын
For the algorithm.
@melmay7874 Жыл бұрын
Great conversation❤❤ I can relate 100% to yo story. I grew up in South Africa
@patriklindholm7576 Жыл бұрын
Most likely due to coming to terms with actually being more interested in what is than what they're supposed to wish for it to be.
@RubyNeumann Жыл бұрын
This is my dream... to have conversations like this one day. I'm still rusty at what comes out of my mouth with my Christian friends and family. I loved this. It was beautiful. Thank you David and Thank you Sarah!!!!
@elainebraindrain3174 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, following his fb page.
@elainebraindrain3174 Жыл бұрын
So glad you were referred by tims channel. Im newly (5YRS) navigating from 45 yrs in jehovahs witness criminal cult. So much to learn. Thank you.😊
@26beegee Жыл бұрын
Sassy, I could be your grandmother. Wish I could give you a huge hug! Congratulations on finding the truth while you are young. I didn’t find that until I was about 60. So any things I would have done differently. Your quest for truth means you will be spared all the regrets. ❤️
@capitalisa Жыл бұрын
I agree with all you stated. I'm 61 and I'm finally seeing the whole picture. I never realized how much damage was done. It's really wonderful to see young people opening their eyes now.
@TrisjensChronicles1203 Жыл бұрын
Gawwwd dammmm, I love Dave. I could listen to him talk all day. This interview was really really good. Please keep doing what you’re doing Graceful Atheist. Carpe Diem!!
@hartholz7015 Жыл бұрын
Alice, this interview seemed somewhat interesting to me. I was educated, very strictly, as a catholic, but my preceptor turned everything in hate, shame and suffering. I don't speak English very fluent and I understand almost nothing in the main of your appearances on the Net. I cannot all explain there. I am not exactly an atheist but I left christianity. I am refering to another tradition, very much more ancient than christianism. The one is very simple and giving scientific explanations to everything. I never do proselytism, and feel peaceful with the tradition that I am speaking about.
@joshuamartinpryce1237 Жыл бұрын
I see a problem with Christian science. While both can complete each other in certain ways, in the beneficially spiritual ways they work against each other. Can one become a religious atheist. Of course not, not in practice and theology. Practice of a spiritual mindset is non scientific, science is not religion although it can affirm some religious truths, such as archaeological findings and historical findings. Israel exists and has sites of the bible but this is confirmed by science, but does nothing to add spiritual value. Spiritual value comes from fellowship with Christ something, science never offers. The Holy Spirit is a force of nature which Jesus said the gospel of John, is like the wind. Science cannot explain the wind and why it blows in origin, and the winds purpose, yet it provides, enjoyment, comfort, and assistance in some ways. The Holy Spirit moves and goes and comes and is around supporting people all over the world, yet no one understands the wind or the Holy Spirit. The attributes of the Holy Spirit come to those who desperately seek Him in Jesus Christ.
@paulburns61102 жыл бұрын
To faithfully believe that OBJECTIVE morality, meaning, purpose, justice, value and/or goodness can even remotely exist without God (the personification of value and goodness etc), is a fanciful superstition. It’s akin to thinking we can create a new primary colour or Re-write the laws of mathematics or logic. Hence any faithful atheist / gullible humanist who foolishly (e.g pridefully) thinks that he/she can create objectively true meaning is vainly deluding THEMSELVES. May God grant them the wisdom to submit to His ways.
@karlyost35722 жыл бұрын
Oh to Linda say good as evil and evil is good in the last days there should be markers and there should be a falling away first and then the Antichrist will ruin rain for 3 and 1/2 years then Jesus will return and destroy the wicked with the brightness of his coming hallelujah are you one of those markers I pray not I pray that you repent and receive Jesus while you can he does know your heart,
@RubyNeumann2 жыл бұрын
Great to have Bart on the podcast. Today was my first time listening to your podcast... and Bart's conversation with you was the second one I listened to after the introduction. Bart has been a huge influence in my journey and I am thankful for his work, podcast, book, conversations with Tony and attitude towards life. I will listen to it again!
@RubyNeumann2 жыл бұрын
This was a great listen. Thank you Michelle for coming on the podcast.. that is a huge support. I really treasured this conversation and maybe it will help me move forward to understand my family and who I left behind. Michelle... This podcast is very helpful, your hubby is doing a great thing by giving us a place and a voice and reminding us that we matter. Belief and unbelief is NOT a choice... We don't chose to do this to our family. With podcasts and conversations like this, there is a hope for finding common ground and peace in our relationships. Thank you so much!!!
@karinesterhammer7722 жыл бұрын
Such a great interview. Carly is so eloquent.
@richardwilliams4732 жыл бұрын
The very notion that you have to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour to go to heaven is ludicrous. Not everyone has access to this book called the Bible and thus have no knowledge whatsoever of this Jesus fellow. So according to Christian belief, these ignorant people are going to HELL?????
@mimafigueroa90223 жыл бұрын
With all respect. One day you will know how wrong you were about the knowledge of God.. But sadly it will be to late.
@Psalms-fr8yy3 жыл бұрын
Who is Jesus Christ to you?
@txawgmoth17963 жыл бұрын
A fiction character in a book, same as harry potter
@SCS-19643 жыл бұрын
Psalms 137:9 (AFV) Happy shall he be who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock. (ASV) Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones Against the rock. (BBE) Happy is the man who takes your little ones, crushing them against the rocks. (Bishops) Blessed shall he be: that taketh & throweth thy litle children against the stone. (Brenton) Blessed shall he be who shall seize and dash thine infants against the rock. (CEV) May the Lord bless everyone who beats your children against the rocks! (ERV) Bless the one who grabs your babies and smashes them against a rock. (ESV) Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock! (ESV+) Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and R1dashes them against the rock! (Geneva) Blessed shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy children against the stones. (Hebrew OT) אשׁרי שׁיאחז ונפץ את־עלליך אל־הסלע׃ (ISV) How blessed will be the one who seizes your young children and pulverizes them against the cliff! (JPS) Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the rock. (KJV) Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. (KJV+) HappyH835 shall he be, that takethH7945 H270 and dashethH5310 (H853) thy little onesH5768 againstH413 the stones.H5553 (LITV) Blessed is he who seizes your little ones and dashes them against the stone! (LSV) O the blessedness of him who seizes, and has dashed your sucklings on the rock! (Nepali) त्यस मानिसलाई धन्यवाद देऊ जसले तिमीहरूका शिशुहरू समाते तिनीहरूलाई ढुङ्गामा थेचारे। (Portuguese KJA) Feliz aquele que agarrar os teus descendentes e os despedaçar contra a rocha! (RV) Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the rock. (Spanish LBLA) Bienaventurado será el que tome y estrelle tus pequeños contra la peña. (TLV) Happy is the one who seizes your little ones and dashes them upon the rock. (TPT) Great honor will come to those who destroy you and your future, by smashing your infants against the rubble of your own destruction. (TS2009) Blessed is he who shall take And dash your little ones against the rock. (WEB) Happy shall he be, who takes and dashes your little ones against the rock. (WEBA) Happy shall he be, who takes and dashes your little ones against the rock. (Webster) Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. (YLT) O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock!
@SCS-19643 жыл бұрын
Disgusting middle east literature
@VaughanMcCue3 жыл бұрын
From Erin's comment, it confirms for me that humans create their gods in their own image. In the beginning, was the word and the word was, Scottish Terrier ( fill in your own definition here )
@ceb5913 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed her open and honest attitude for life. Her joy for life and relationships was uplifting.
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite deconversion stories. Ive never heard of an entire family deconverting by paying attention to the wisdom of a child. 💜 I remember at twelve the obviousness of something amiss with a lot of religious stuff. Saying anything about it didnt get the ear of as loving parent but instead the fundamentalist response. Which is entirely abuse. I wonder if Leahs son has any idea how lucky he is. Im sure his parents realise how lucky they are to have that child. Good job.
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
4640 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 "The abuse can be subtle. It almost always is."
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
Typing 4 the ATHEIST Algorithm ✔ 🔷️🔹️🔹️
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
Suandria Hall - another atheist angel
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
Pro-people. 😊😊😊😊💙😊😊💜😊😊😊😊💛😊💙
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
In the awe of the treehuggers !!! 😂🤣😃
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
I Love 💙💜💙💜💙 hearing people from all different walks of life talk about their religious experiences and how they escaped the damaging superstitions, beliefs, & ideologies they were indoctrinated/ brought up with. They are all so different and unique in their choices and decisions. Both in how they were believers and how they become nonbelievers.
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
41:00 "The biggest mindfuck of Christianity as a whole is these awful feelings are called LOVE. "
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
"WAYWARD" is such an appropriate title !!!!
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
So insightful and important. Christianity turns love into mental slavery and psychological sadism.
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
These are long, which is great, but still takes time. So I sped it up. I listened at 1.75 speed and still it sounded fine. 👍
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
"Paul is gay" - Karen 🤣😂😃😄😍 Hilarious and frighteningly sad if it was true. Are there any older texts that speak ill of homosexuality? Surely the bible couldnt be the only. But werent openly gay men somewhat common in rome and greece at that time???
@bellezavudd3 жыл бұрын
2 yrs later Her insights on cult trauma are still very useful and appreciated.
@janetohlsen67123 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subscribers. Well done!
@MilkyWayGalaxyy3 жыл бұрын
I am 2 years late but I love Dave and I loved this interview.
@ceb5913 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Rachel's telling of her experience - honest and comfortable. Thanks to you both.
@MrPoilleke3 жыл бұрын
Hearing this, evangelicals are not better than muslims, pushing faith upon their kids, since they grow up inside that bubble...l am from Europe and born and raised roman catholic, but in a complete free non-pratiquant family, but atheist sincs forever, l am 55 now. God alledgedly gave people free will, than why is that not applicable on the faith yoh have or not? This is so hypocritical for me...
@BLUELOVEFOREVER13 жыл бұрын
I became a Christian as an adult, and attend an orthodox reformed church, we don’t have special music, or a “light show”. Instead we consider worship to be very special, and enter into it respectfully. We have a single piano player, and sing psalms, like the early church. I believe you have been indoctrinated into another religion-atheism. So, you should consider your points for yourself!
@BLUELOVEFOREVER13 жыл бұрын
Mind control? No, amazingly the Holy Spirit is alive and well! You poor soul! I will pray for you!
@VeganismIsDeath-cz9mn6 ай бұрын
LOL, who are you trying to convince? Perhaps... yourself?