www.captainfin.com.au/products/alex-knost-classic-7-5?variant=42132838613185&currency=AUD&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw8fu1BhBsEiwAwDrsjDDdMs_J8MeQt-T5z7W1NKBFm6_OWq7f4oogg2ULwyWavyGLTeT3eRoCFvEQAvD_BwE This one, should have tried it with different fins to be honest

Awesome!

I swapped for a 5’8 with a friend haha

@@AddisonRowland was the 5'5 too small? I have a 5'5 too and it paddles horrific. But once on the wave its really fun. Do you find the 5'8 is still manoeuvrable?

Im 78kg, didn’t feel to small for good waves, just felt shit to paddle and yeah once ure up it was amazing, but I have a shortboard I really like for good waves and I wanted the seaside to work well in smaller waves so yeah was a bit small for small waves. The 5’8 still feels very manoeuvrable, bit harder to tip over on rail because of the width, I have a video up of me surfing it at urban you should check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpqtpmN8aKyogaMsi=YwY3ZUn8qFjeYr_e

Yes, still riding it, will post a video talking about it later this week, it works in small waves, better than any board ive ridden thats 7’0 long or shorter but its not a longboard alternative. Works in longboard waves but but it feels slow and can be difficult to make sections and get down the line compared to a log or something longer.

As far as I know PE is lighter and will have more flex, I had PU and I think PU is an easier repair and less likely to get waterlogged when dinged. Either construction will be epic it depends on what you want your glider to do, if u sizing up to make it a long big board in ure quiver the weight of the PU is kinda nice to have, more momentum down the line, if ure going for more performance style turns and sizing it in that mid length range maby go with PE?

@@AddisonRowland Thought as much. Good man. Thank you!

Two spots are in Victoria Australia, haha

Was surfing a couple times a year for a few years but got more into it last year and have been surfing every week for over a year now haha

Honestly should do an update on it, I bought it as a small wave board but it kinda seems more like an all rounder. Paddles and catches waves effortlessly but its not a longboard in small waves, takes some pumping and won’t go in gutless waves. It has some rocker and a pulled in tail so this means for me it seems to go really good in quality waves waist high and bigger, could probably ride it in double overhead. I think of it more now as a super easy to surf mid, easy to catch waves, intuitive easy to ride that goes in all conditions but not a longboard replacement. Hope that helps!

@@AddisonRowland damn... another "small waves mid" that ends up being for good waves 🫠🫠 That wave chart in Firewire is a complete lie then. Theyre always like that. i went through a few of these already... last ones were Ci Tri plane Hull and Seaside and Beyond... They always love a fatter good wave. Guess a nice travel friendly longboard replacement doesnt exist unfortunately Too late since i already bought it haha thanks for the update man

Let me knock what you think! I think it goes pretty good in smaller waves but my 7’0 Sunday doesn’t go as good as my 8’0 mid glider and i doubt any 7’ board would go in smaller waves better than a flat rockered 8’ board

@@AddisonRowland makes sense. but i wonder why they dont do a flat rockered 7'0... 8'0 is entering longboard territory and so annoying to travel with. Plus if its not a small wave catch any wave board, dont advertise as it

There were a couple head high 🤣

Loving PT atm such a fun wave!

@@AddisonRowland hey man i have a question for ya. im 5'10/5'11 , i weigh roughly 75/76kg and im a late beginner. if i took a 7'6 foamie out to urban surf, id catch 8/10 waves at PT, if i took out my 8 foot 60 litre torque board, id catch 6 or 7 out of 10. right now im struggling with paddle fitness but im working on it pretty hard so should be ok by spring/early summer. i wanna buy an album twinsman. im trying to learn bottom/top turns and cut backs, and i plan on spending most of my sessions on PT and Intermediate over the next few months. my question is, do you think a 6 foot twinsman is too long to perform snappy turns etc on those two waves? and that i should aim for a 5'10 or 5'11? also, would you recommend the pin tail or the original tail for a late beginner about to hit early intermediate at urbnsurf? for me its about confidence and steadyness when trying to turn. mate thanks so much any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

Woah, awesome dude, yeah paddling at urban is hectic haha I would suggest you buy something cheap in that size range before you commit to an expensive new or even used album shortboard, you could probably find a 6’0 or 6’2 shortboard for 200-300 and this would give you an idea for its going to be like to paddle and catch waves, ure dropping alot of litres going from 60L down to 38L in the 6’0 twinsman. Its hard to say without seeing you surf but I know on average everyone seems to go to small to quick, I did it, my friends have done it. Maby a mid length would be a better step down somthing like the firewire sunday, a 7’0 with 53L is gonna be manoeuvrable as heck with ure feet in the right spot. I have made this mistake before you definitely do not need a shortboard to learn turns. I really like my pintail but they are both epic shapes I guess its almost a feeling thing, witch tail shape u prefer.

@@AddisonRowland hey mate thanks so much for the reply i really appreciate it, i popped down to strapper over the weekend and had a chat with the guys down there. long story short i walked out with a dhd black diamond. tonnes of volume but a pulled in tail, ideal for learning turns. im gonna smash out as many PT/intermediate sessions as possible between now and end of October, so i'll probably update you in a few months. take it easy, and keep up the good content.

Ah nice! What are the dims?

My preferred shortboard the Album Twinsman came home!

Couldn’t get over how beautiful the water was, still can’t haha

Was so good

gopro.com/en/au/shop/mounts-accessories/bite-mount/ABITM-001.html I use a go pro and I mount it with a mouth mount. I carabiner it to my wetsuit to not loose it!

Yeah I put a leg rope string between the mouth mount and go pro and yeah exactly like you say. Sometimes Ill use the floaty and i wont attach it to me but most of the time thats how film.

At the moment I am running the Shapers Asher Pacey upright twins in medium, in the past I have run the Needs Essentials upright twins. They are a fair bit bigger and have more rake tho so they we’re definitely stiffer that the asher set

Awesome!👏 thanks for the feedback. Keep up with the great video content. 🙌

I know! I was just trimming forever like when will this end 🤣

I bought it for that exact reason, Id go the 7’3 if you are truly trying to replace a 9’ log, it definitely doesn’t have as much glide as a longboard but if you are used to a shortboard in medium sized waves it will definitely go in small gutless waves.

@@AddisonRowland Sweet, nothing can really replace a long board. They’re just a pain to lug around, want something around 7ft for smaller days

The ocean is a beautiful playground

These boards feel kinda heavy tbh, think they are glassed to last and they have a double stringer, but I really enjoyed the feeling of a heavier board going down the line. Hard to say what to go for the 7'7 might be easier to duck dive haha, both would be a ton of fun tho, great board!

Yeah it probably is, and its the best, personally I prefer it when its small haha kinda closes out most of the time when its big, should check it when its 1-3 or even 1-2+ Hawaiian on Surfline. Mby ill see ya out there haha

@@AddisonRowland last time I checked it out it was easy 6-8ft was rolling in nicely but was super crowded. Ended up at cat bay that day. Yeah definitely might, I’m out at the island most weekends. Great spot.

Don’t think the flat rocker was the issue, seen rob and many others surf the seaside in very hollow waves haha

Deal!

No I haven’t, I think I will soon tho!

Definitely worth a trip to Melbourne or Sydney, crazy experience the first time haha

Got the Hero 11 Black, before this one I had the 7, feel like anything after the 7 with the right settings goes pretty good

@@AddisonRowland ok thankyou 🤙🏽

The plasmic I used to have was a 5’8” x 20 3/4” x 2 5/8” 38.2L The Seaside I have now is 5'5" x 20' 15/16" x 2' 1/2" 31.5L So the plasmic definately would be better for small waves, however I have changed how I think about the Fish in my quiver, I used to want to ride the fish in my quiver in small waves as thats kind of how they are advertised, but I have found in small waves an oversized fish is still no where near as fun as a good small wave mid length. So for me now the fish in my quiver is for semi decent to decent waves and I choose to ride it instead of a shortboard because I want to feel somthing different. Does that make sense? If I were to buy a fish for small waves and I was choosing between the plasmic and the seaside it would really come down to feel, do you want the twinny looseness of the plasmic or the quad grip, projection and hold for the seaside? If you got a 5'8" seaside I think it would go just as good in small waves as the plasmic, they both have flat rockers, wide points forward ect. Its more a question of feel, the seaside will be lighter with helium construction and have more hold and projection, the Plasmic will be looser and have a bit more momentum because its heavier.

It’s completely shit to paddle compared to the Sunday 🤣 The Sunday has an extra 20L of volume almost double to amount of buoyancy and you can definitely feel it, however in decent waves if you know where to position yourself you don’t need a good paddler to catch waves. Definitely harder to paddle, catch waves and surf than the Sunday tho.

Sure is!

Yep I'm local too! See ya there once this swell Triples 👍

Was a few fun ones a couple weeks back. It'll happen again soon. I'm usually out on a timber board I shaped or an old 60s pyke log so if you see that then say hi 😅​@@hopefaithlove9646

Yeah mouth mount go pro, works pretty well, probably going to be out there tomorrow haha see you guys out there

Thank you! Cheers!

Happy to! 🫡

Thanks so much! Spreadsheets are the best haha. You definitely have a more practical quiver but yeah sometimes you feel like riding a short lil wide thing in mushy or small waves, could ride a mid-length but feels haha. Could do a whole video on fins, sounds like u got ure 2 board quiver acting like an 8 board quiver 😍

Had my first go on it today! Still popping up with one wrist and haven’t ridden a shortboard since January so found it difficult to catch waves but i got a couple and the board felt insane! So much hold and drive and so easy to throw around, might be my new favourite board haha, mines a 5’5

Big downsized ! How much do you weight ?

How much is your weight to be on a 5.5 ? Do you think you should have gone bigger ? Thanks !

I’m 75-80kg, and for decent waves and for an int-adv surfer Kale Brock’s guide says 0.37 x BW, so 28.5L. I have ridden a 28.9L performance short board and made it work. This seaside is 5’5 and has 31.5L and is helium construction so it probably floats like a 33L PU construction. Based off this maths it should go well for me (lets see lol I’ll be posting vids on it soon).

Thank you very much ! :) Can’t wait to see the seaside video then 👍

Nup

Amazing! I’m a beginner trying to find small unbroken waves

l was out that day but right on the Penins point on a left but short board making it really hard for myself

Sure is mby keep it to P***s so we don’t piss off any locals 🤣 this videos gettin quite a few views

Let's just call it Penins😂😂

What were u comparing it to? Was it a new one?

⁠@@AddisonRowland Both were brand new. I’ve had numerous mids…The Crowd Killer, Pick Up Stick, FireWire Vacay (7’4 and 7’10), Harley Ingleby MOE, CI Mid, Seaside and Beyond (7’0 and 7,4) and some others. I have a Roger Hinds Tamago on the way at the moment I was actually one of the first people to see and buy the Sunday. I saw it at the FireWire shop before it was revealed. I was going to replace my Seaside and Beyond, but ended up getting a Sunday instead. It’s an okay board, just didn’t see it as a good paddler.

I guess it depends on what you consider small waves, and it depends on how you have sized it, personally Ive had two sessions on the 6’8 SnB now and it seemed to go pretty good in small waves. I.e Thigh-stomach high waves They feel pretty similar to me in terms of the small wave glide, they aren’t longboards but they go pretty good I think. What size have you got?

@@AddisonRowland oh you think the 6'8 was better than the 7 in small waves ? For me its like anything under my daily driver, also spots like longboard fat mellow waves. Ive been struggling finding a midlength that goes well in those, they always want some size to be able to move and do anything. My SnB is a 7'0. I surf mainly Indo, amd tbh it mainly works in average waves with a minimum of push, but then start being clunky in good waves so it doesnt make it that versatile. So i wanted to build a two board quiver of mids with a more hollow / bigger wave board (mid strength or mid 6) and then a small wave board

Yeah fair enough, I reckon the SnB is more of a medium wave board not really and longboard alternative. Maby you could look at something a bit longer to be ure small wave board, I had a Hayden Shapes ML glider that worked well is tiny waves, it was an 8’0 56L I have a review on it. In terms of mid-lengths designed for small waves I feel like the big names design for people who will only own one board. So they usually aren’t just for small waves. Maby the ryan lovlace FM would be interesting to check out or the V-bowls?

@@AddisonRowland yeah, I saw your hayden shape vid, was cool ! thing is i travel a lot, and after getting stuck at an airport for hours due to my boards not fitting i made a rule to myself to never carry more than 7'0 boards ever again haha and yeah you're right, most boards of big brands are defo "one board quiver " even though i tnd to find they are for the spots where the shaper lives haha. Not a huge fan of the one board quiver thing anyways, 2 board quiver just expands so much the number of spots i can surf comfortably. unless its a a shortboard, as weirdly enough, i find some shortboards way more versatile than midlengths or even longboards (loved my Pyzalien 2). but my style sucks and riding bigger boards (riding a lot of longboards too lately) really improved my flow and style, while also making me more confident in bigger waves. Trying to be proactive to not get stuck in intermediate hell haha cool footage btw, some of the spots you surf look like a lot of fun ! Also glad you're making your way back to surf after injury

Yeah, I haven't travelled on lights with bords yet but I am not keen to haha seems like a tricky scenario. I definitely found riding longer boards helped my surfing as well, still trying to find that perfect small wave mid, the Sunday might be it, haven't ridden it enough yet to say I don't think. I feel lucky to live where I do with so many different surf spots an hr or two away! Thanks so much man! Yeah the injury has sucked but through the worst of it now, so happy days

I should make a video on my current quiver haha, definitely the Sunday, tbh I had the wrong board for this session the forecast had me thinking it was gonna be way bigger. The Sunday is much wider 7’0 x 21 1/2” x 3 1/8” compared to the Townsend 6’8 x 19 3/4” x 2 5/8” and the outline for the Townsend is wide point forward with a very pulled in foiled out tail so the Sunday for sure! Was still fun tho I ran my larger fins and it was definitely less forgiving but a good first session back on the Townsend since my injury

@@AddisonRowland thanks for the response! Yeah you should just do a quiver video, I like seeing what other people’s approach is. I’m interested in the Sunday as a low effort, waist high surf kinda board because that’s what my quiver is currently lacking.

Yeah thats what I got mine for, works great, the super light construction really makes sense for that application I think. The only problem is the sizing is a bit limiting tbh I could have gone for the 7’3 and if they made a 7’6 I could have gone for that haha

Sshhhh, yeah lovly sesh at P***s 🤣

No, that gym is in Melbs sorry dude

There is a gym in Tassie that did open sessions tho I think it was called PCYC?

Bummer looked sick cheers for the help

Not wrong haha, got a 6’8 now as my shortboard, goes great 🤣

Just flowing, nice.

@@michaelreddington2127I think from memory I started riding shortboards in January, had been riding a minimal for several years previously, so this was my short-boarding 3 months in ish haha