Interesting, but one thing needs to be said: there is a widely spread misunderstanding of the term ‘observation’ in quantum mechanics. The observation that makes a wave function collapse has nothing to do with (human) consciousness. In fact any physical interaction, e.g of a sensor in a measurement apparatus, or even an interaction between two particles can cause a wave function collapse.

Kathleen nolan

Kathleen nolan

Leviticus 19:33-34

There is no Ethical AI. Only the road to the Image of The Beast.

Judith Butler's Whose Afraid of Gender? (2024) makes the case that "gender" has become a 'psychosocial phantasm' upon which various actors project their anxieties, fears, and desires; Bob's observation that pitches to accelerate AI often come bundled with scaremongering about other nations (28:30) suggests that "AI," too, now functions as a phantasm.

Moral clarity from a Christian? That’s a good one.

They call Trump the prince of lies. Play has been in politics for 50 years and is on the record lying more.

What kind of noise is this?

Thank you! Fascinating. I think this is very healthy. The idea of a God “becoming” is compelling. I feel it is still referring to God with form- which is always evolving, changing, and discovering. This fits with the name of god -Exodus 3:14 - which really translates to something like “I will be what I will be” These changes - at least in our understanding, always appear in awareness, and that awareness never changes. Behind all this evolution is pure awareness, behind which we cannot get - at least in this life. Awareness is pure existence. Of all these changes in God, we can still say that they exist. You can’t get behind that.

Excellent . Thankyou for uploading . Keith is inspirational , he is at once undogmatic yet elucidates the transformative ethos of Christian theism on many expriential levels .

Being so conformed unto Christ that we begin to share in his own divinity. Thomas Aquinas called “Deification” in his works, becoming conformed unto God, it’s meant to be done though the Eucharist sacrament, if we don’t understand this, we don’t understand who He really is….Lord, to whom shall we go?

Pardon my putting my thoughts down as I listened. Thanx for the opportunity.

I am deeply skeptical regarding human moral progress. How do we master evil which lies so close at hand within us? I can will what is good and work toward it, but if I think I am thereby free of evil, I believe I am deluding myself.

I'm stealing "cognitive empathy". BTW, "openness" has its limitations when it comes to usefulness (I think :-). I'll stick with humility and work out its implications toward God and others.

Uh oh. Maybe I should have prefaced my declarative sentences with, "I think that . . . ."

"The act of telling the story", like observation in physics, alters (distorts?) the object. If there is a God (with a capitol 'G'), what God knows is beyond our knowing, except insofar as God makes that possible. That is a communion which transcends our individuality. Mystics think they've experienced it. But who knows, other than God? Bottomline: All our ideas about "God" are distorted at best and and dangerous at their worst.

Strict Darwinian evolution does not guarantee what we would regard as progress. The cockroach may still come out on top.

Selfish self-interest and mutual self-interest are not compatible. As selfish self-interest reaches a critical mass globally, mutual destruction is more likely than mutual preservation.

When AI taps into the internet, there will be the beginning of "noesphere". Then "Skynet" will be one step away.

Fantastic. Thank you. Able to put into words what I cannot.

Any time I see Gary Dorrien, I can't hit play fast enough

what an inspiring conversation! thank you for that. i will be looking for the movie. BTW Tripp, i have watched a few of your videos lately and i seems like the lens on your camera is cloudy. just sayin'. thanks again

how do you talk to a prophet? Oh, this is how😊

"Imagine you're at your high school dance" wait a second! I thought Wesleyans eschewed dancing! 😂

1. Excellent editing! Thank you!! 2. I wonder what Dr. Caputo thinks now -- 3 weeks later -- about democracy -- No longer "circling the drain"? I myself am much encouraged today!!! 3. Thank you for horizon-expanding conversation!!

Ryan, you need to know that the decline of religion in not you at all. I know of a book you need to read written by a social anthropologist in 1934. Dr. J. D. Unwin was a tenured professor at Oxford and Cambridge. His ground breaking study has never been equaled. Not only does it show why religion is shrinking, but it will also out line the collapse of our economy and the government which are all being affected by the same cause. The name of the book is quit a misnomer, but it is an unprecedented study on society trends. The book is called Sex and Culture.

Legacy Media. The lack of Intelligence personified.

Very thoughtful and thought provoking. Thanks.

Great episode, especially nice to hear someone from BC! I found the concept of "technique" to be really interesting and have mentally tried to pigtail in Jame Gee's concept of semiotic domains (modalities and design grammar) to further contextualize Ellul's what drives technique. I think there's something to be said about the shifting of a design grammar's methods and how it would effect the technique of a larger system.

Teilhard was known for having a great devotion to the Eucharistic sacrament. I would be very cautious about anyone saying they know better than Thomas Aquinas, just saying.

About 27:00 : Why is being trained to be able to more efficiently get good information out of an AI depressing?

I've been wondering recently that perhaps the Earth is God Herself.

So, I keep telling people algorithms are like puppies and babies, you need to train them well

No. A whole new liturgy won’t do. The very idea and practices of liturgy itself is so much a part of the problematic civilisation. Sunday morning is a very intrinsic part of that same civilisation. Many of us who have detoxified our relationship with the transcendent by dropping all dogma and theology have long ceased to practice religion in any formal way. We pray and meditate. We fellowship, often in the wild, sometimes in ancient places, thin places, sacralised or sanctified by prayers. But to formally codify a faith, however new and emerging, would merely be to fall back into the trap of creating yet another damn religion.

Which of Matt's books do you keep referencing? Nothing in description & the one/two times you mentioned it I cannot find in 100mins of interview. Thanks.

"Why don't you decide for yourself what is right?" - JC The biblical prophet Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies:. "Homebrewed Christianity." I like that title. But at first listen, I fear you've had too much "schooling," which can be difficult to overcome. Because, Christian schooling is largely based on the false BAD NEWS Pauline "gospel" of JUDGMENT and SACRIFICE. Nonetheless, even a PhD can be overcome by a wise man who simply reads "the words in red" and thinks for himself. Intelligence without wisdom is a boat without water. But wisdom - a gift from GOD - cannot be learned, except over the course of many many lifetimes. In any case, all mysteries have been unveiled and published in these "end times": the end of the old Cycle of Time so that the New Cycle may be born. But only wise seekers will find.

I just watched Bonhoeffer on Prime

You rock!

Ok, I'm sold, just bought a year. Looking forward to binging!

I am very excited for the Bonhoeffer projects coming this fall! Thanks for all your hard work!

I think we as Christians do injuries to the faith when we hook our wagon to any political party or person

Subbed!

THANK YOU. It's great to see Ilia with Tripp Fuller.

Realized a long time ago....just because we can, doesn't mean we should

Food for thought: At the ~15 minute mark, Marvin Minsky unwittingly begins a discussion that's essentially isomorphic to the Hebrews 12 passage on Communion of Saints: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3qTf4uKp7hohtksi=3jAPZ21I4uh_d04O Make of it what you will, but I think Minsky's idea of "algorithmizing people" could form a solid concrete model for understanding Fr Teilhard de Chardin's abstract/mystical Cosmic Christ

Can't wait for the book, just ordered on Verso. As an atheist, I truly appreciate hearing this argument from the standpoint of theological scholarship. Are Marxist radical Christian evangelicals as rare as I think or am I ignorant. Here's hoping the comments don't get locked lol.

Fascinating topic. Philosopher, ethicist and AI expert Steven Umbrello just chatted about AI versus human consciousness from a Catholic perspective on the Coffee, Commerce & Catechesis podcast if anyone is interested in checking it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioGZm4xme95_bqs Steven is Managing Director at the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies, Editor-In-Chief at the International Journal of Technoethics, Managing Editor at the Journal of Responsible Technology, a research fellow at the University of Turin, and a contributing writer at Word on Fire Catholic Ministries.