Will do!

Welcome 👍

That sounds like a great idea :P

So you know, This is a modern version of a series I did in Tekken 7 called "Stringing Them Along" which you can find here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmjXYZKQe6mhgtksi=i-KPKr48TGxfb9Lq I'm aiming to release a block punishment and a string defence video for a different character each week. I currently have a buffer of a few of them ready to go to help me keep to the schedule, but if I find myself getting far enough ahead, I might speed up the release.

Hey, thank you heaps! It all definitely takes a lot of practice to get comfortable with doing, but give it time. How are you finding playing Nina so far?

You're so welcome!

Yes, it's still possible in Tekken 8 :) However, instead of Jack being -19 if you block it, he's only -2

@@AFriendlyTree gotcha

You're welcome. That's very kind of you. :)

Well that depends very much on your region (apologies if we've talked about this before). Feel free to add me on steam and I can try and arrange a time, but if you're not from Australia or New Zealand, it'll very likely be at least 200ms

@@AFriendlyTree 😅🫡💯

You better not! :P

Hey, thanks for watching! That's a great suggestion and something I can implement into my future videos in this series. In an attempt to have some consistency and being able to release these videos on a weekly basis, I do have a large buffer of completed videos which I can't add this to. However, for the ones that I have yet to record, I'll put the hit level detection on. :)

You're welcome. It's not much beyond a visual reference, but hopefully it makes it easier for learning and remembering what's punishable :)

Are you meaning specifically to do with juggles/aerial combos? I think the answer is going to be repetition. Just running through things daily, even if only for a couple of minutes, will help it all make sense faster :)

@@AFriendlyTree one of those combos I am close to getting it but my brain shuts off halfway through, repetition will help eventually but its just difficult for so many inputs to not mess up once and also thank you for the guide its helping me learn allot

@@Groudon_Jz You're welcome :) What you want to do here is block training. Practice segments of the combo repetitively until it becomes familiar to you, then gradually join the blocks together until you're performing the full combo. Thankfully you can now save states in practice mode to make this easier to do. Side note: This is a strategy used to help people with conditions such as dyspraxia to help them better order and perform tasks.

Awesome, I hope this guide helps :) How are you finding Nina so far?

That's a great idea. I have another timely project I'm working on right now, but I could do a similar "in-depth" collection where I focus on individual moves after that :)

You're welcome :)

I have a few different ones over the years, but all but this one is from Tekken 7! It's a popular topic lol. Within this video itself: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqXKe5WDqL-bqrs Tekken 7 character guide segment: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4WnXmWMo7Z7mKs First standalone video I made on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYm5lXuamJajZqM Second standalone video I made on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3e6kGikdsiefdE

@@AFriendlyTree applicable to Tekken 8? also is it worth learning? 😬

@@daeron_spes the principles for performing them are the same, so these videos should all still help. They are worth learning in Tekken 8 for max damage and improved wall carry. Most BnBs I currently recommend have X2-3 butterflies in them

@@AFriendlyTree Thank you master

I'm glad you think so! :)

A lot of it will come down to practice and getting a feel for the timing yourself. I think a key thing I was trying to show in the timestamped section was that I was generally doing SS+1~B~B+u, as in, I was holding the b from the backsway then pressing the up. The hard part for me is releasing the b and the u at the same time, otherwise you get the backflip. If you're getting the sidestep chop, that's ub+1 and suggests to me that you're pressing the attack button too early, or without first letting go of the directional buttons. Does this help at all?

@@AFriendlyTree Thank you so much I think what you just wrote in tandem with rewatching the videos are starting to click. Things I did after reading: I slowed it way way down, I should have listened to you when I believe in another video you mentioned that starting off slow is best while then building speed. I think I was gun-ho from the onset and the speed wasn't making me understand the inputs I was doing. So, 1) I slowed down the inputs 2) I applied what you said, about the up when in backsway and releasing on time. I started getting the backflips, I did backflips a few more times to understand why they were coming out as backflips, and then I started releasing them on the same time. The SS1 cancels are starting to come out with the exact inputs you used in the video. It still feels uncomfortable and I'm still going very slowly, hoping to check back either in here or discord once I can do it in full speed. I suspect it will take me much longer than 45 min of practice though lol Thanks again for the time you take in teaching all who are willing to learn. It's incredibly appreciated!

:( I hope everything is alright

Thanks, will do!

I hope this has helped you with the Asuka match-up :) Some things will have changed from Tekken 7 to Tekken 8, especially with the attack reversal window changing.

Excellent! How are you finding it?

Loving it. Feels like a brand new game. Getting used to the jump button positions and not sure which one I'll use as the T16 has jump in WASD and hitbox style. So far I find Nina's sidestep 1 or jump 3 or 4 easier with WASD . Thanks for all your videos and advice, haven't played Tekken since Tekken 4 and now that I'm in my 40s I appreciate all the help I can get to have an edge 😂

I feel like I'm in a similar situation really. There are aspects of using a hitbox which I find a lot easier, but I'm still much more comfortable with the Nina-specific execution when I play on stick. The exception being Hayashida step because that's much easier to do on hitbox. For now, this is going to be my main video guide for displaying my inputs. I could look into releasing some shorts demonstrating some specifics over the, but that'll come after my current project.

Thanks Chai! I hope you've been well since BAM. When you are trying Nina, feel free to message me if I can help at all.

It's never too late, and as long as you're enjoying it :). How are you finding SF6 on leverless? I've been playing pretty much every fighting game exclusively on leverless, but SF6 would be the one I've played the most...next to Tekken at least.

Oh hey, there was a pattern. Oops, my bad!

Great timing! The Haute products seem awesome. If I didn't already have my snackbox, I'd probably get one too.

As someone who’s played a lot of pad and some stick (back in the end of arcade days mainly) I say if you want to get a stick and or leverless just do it. They are fun to play with at the least. My favorite part about leverless is that it’s just less strain and mental work to use. Once you get used to it of course. Also, I don’t even really use shortcuts and I still do well enough.

@TwoyBwoy yeah the movement is more relaxed especially wave dash and qcf .on pad only thumb you use .

I don't think there are any limitations to becoming a good player with pad. Many top players in the world play pad and you'll generally find that there's a mix for any character as well. People play what they feel most comfortable, or what will help them enjoy the game the most generally. If you want to buy a new device because you think you'll enjoy it, go for it! If you're doing it because you think it'll make you a better player, I think you have the same potential if you stick to pad :)

Sorry about the audio. I have the music set to duck when I'm talking and the keyframes are auto-generated. There may have been an issue with those keyframes. The db+2 into qcf+4,3,1+2 is still very tricky, but what I'm doing is using the directional input buffer to input f,qcf while Nina is in hitstun from the db+2. This is an input buffer change they made in Tekken 8 where you can perform a dash immediately out of recovery, and in this situation you're "storing" the f and qcf but only the x2 f motions register as something that can be performed instantly. The game performs what it understands, but stores the rest for when it can perform it once out of recovery. I hope my explanation isn't too confusing, but that's my understanding of it.

@@AFriendlyTree oooooh so that's a new thing, cause I was familiar with the input and motion buffering concept but couldn't grasp how you did it in this case, thank you for the clear explanation

Why would I do that? I don't see any patterns in my videos that would suggest me doing a hitbox video? 😵

Hey mate, didn't I link you videos on this very thing quite recently? Df+3,2~db+2 is the notation people have given for doing a df+3,2 into a db+2 for combos. The more accurate notation would be df+3,2~b~db+2 and what you're doing is cancelling Nina's df+3,2 into a backsway with a back input (this is new to Tekken 8), then once you're performing the backsway, instantly inputting db+2. As the cancel is a back input, the game will also perform the backsway if you press down+back. So most people input it as df+3,2~db+2

Good tip! As long as she's in the beginning of her backsway, it will work. That combo formula is what I'd generally recommend right now. x2 power hits, x2 bufferflies, df+3,2~db+2, dash db+3+4

I think she has a lot of hard to use tools and executionally demanding combos, but she's strong and can function well with a pretty simple gameplan as well. She isn't a simple character, but I think her entry level is lower than many other characters

@@AFriendlyTree agree

LMAO same

I'll be releasing it tonight (about 7h from this post) 😀

The way I hold the pad is definitely not the only way and I'm sure the way you hold it is fine. Any controller you use will involve a lot of time investment to improve and they each have their own advantages, so I really need to suggest that you invest that time into whichever one you enjoy using the most! I hear people say that it takes a few months to get proficient on a new controller, but I feel like a year is a more realistic timeframe, at least to reach a level where you're comfortable enough to not be putting additional thought into eqch action

Are you sure? I might release a video showcasing how to play Tekken on a Guitar Hero controller soon! 🤣

@@AFriendlyTree do it with a DDR pad, I have

Oh? What's happening when you try? evil mist is easier in Tekken 8 and the input is qcf+2+3. So if you can do any qcf move, it should be the same. My first suggestion is that perhaps using a button mapped to 2+3 might make it a little easier to do.

Thank you :)

Much appreciated!