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@PreppyNavy23
@PreppyNavy23 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the clip! Shooting around in the night with primitive tech was never gonna lead to anything decisive, Brits tried it in WWII too and it didn't do much, there was a torpedo shootout with the IJN in the Pacific and it became a clownshow on both sides, minimal damage, just spaghetti works on the maps. Wonder for Jutland, if the Germans had deployed a subscreen ahead of their fleet, would it have led to a bloodbath for British dreadnoughts? Tactically it was a German victory, more Brit sailors died, more tonnage lost. Strategically it bottled the Germans up leading to severe shortages which cost them the war later, so as usual, they lost the war. Usual geopolitical hindrance, Europe can be blockaded to death and they can NEVER break outta it (Napoleon, Kaiser, Hitler etc.), the strategic advantage lies with the Anglo powers of Britain, US, Canada etc., same with all major developments now, AI race is between the US and China (with the blocs they lead), but EU? They bottled up and living in the middle ages, and with their quarrel with Russia, they're in a straitjacket now. Super navies are a province of the Anglos (and increasingly Chinese/Russian too), Euros might as well save the funding and pump it into their soccer teams instead
@George_M_
@George_M_ 11 күн бұрын
Beatty is the equivalent of Almond in the Korean war ... god save the troops from "valorous" generals
@kylegates6043
@kylegates6043 22 күн бұрын
I’m shocked at the amount of stokers who were survivors from the two British ships
@MichaelThomas-i1v
@MichaelThomas-i1v 26 күн бұрын
My uncle Tom David was a stocker on HMS Tiger. He only joined the ship one month before the battle. He was a miner, so was a natural for the job. My father was shown over the ship (Tom was his brother-in-law) when she paid off under the terms of the Washington agreement.
@martinlintzgy1361
@martinlintzgy1361 Ай бұрын
Good simplified documentary of what was a very complex battle. Drachinifel's is thorough more detailed, so of necessity much longer.
@markmogk4814
@markmogk4814 Ай бұрын
Less armor and higher speed in the UK design was SOUND. Beatty failed to use it to his advantage.
@michaelkovacic2608
@michaelkovacic2608 Ай бұрын
The 1st generation of British battlecruisers (Invincible-class and Indefatigable-class) were poor ships compared to their German counterparts (Von der Tann and Moltke-class). Their 6inch armor couldn't withstand German 11inch shells. The British did seriously step up their game with their 2nd generation, the Lion-class and Tiger. I'd say those were outstanding ships and very competitive to the Derfflinger-class. But I'm still of the opinion that they were somewhat deficient in protection, as their 9inch belt covered only the amidships area and left the fore and aft magazines protected with only 5inch plating. Maybe deleting one turret in exchange for a full 9inch belt would have been a better option.
@bhaskarjha9500
@bhaskarjha9500 2 ай бұрын
what happened to steamer NJ Fjord?
@Sean-p3o
@Sean-p3o 2 ай бұрын
No mention of why Beatty didn’t open fire earlier ? This video appears to have a tiny bit of propaganda in it
@08jag81
@08jag81 Ай бұрын
Poor visibility whereas Hipper's scouting group had a better a view.
@martinlintzgy1361
@martinlintzgy1361 Ай бұрын
Beatty's promotion to Admiral was as a of pals in high places, rather than his tactical skills. Jellicoe was more intellectual in his decision making, making no significant tactical errors that got men killed.
@gfdx3214
@gfdx3214 2 ай бұрын
Hey, 2-3 months ago there was some talk between us to possibly get a signed book (somewhere further down in the comments). You asked me to contact via Facebook, though I assume that afterwards something got lost in communication. Is the offer still available, and if so how should I contact you (and to what account, which I assume might've been a communication issue). Sorry to bother you if it is not!
@jebbroham1776
@jebbroham1776 2 ай бұрын
Why didn't the Germans send their fleet to Swedish ports if a "neutral port" was all that was required for the Treaty to be negotiated?
@karlsilcock8727
@karlsilcock8727 2 ай бұрын
The problem wasn't with the ships it was with the battlecruier commander, it's quite strange looking back from so far that Beatty came away smelling of roses and Jellicoe didn't.
@08jag81
@08jag81 2 ай бұрын
Beatty won the battle of dogger bank before this and appeared to be facing about the same odds here, so he quickly had to intercept Hipper's battlecruisers before they escaped, he ordered 5th battle squadron to be signaled.
@thesupremepizza6893
@thesupremepizza6893 Ай бұрын
@@08jag81 Beatty fumbled Dogger Bank. Poor communication and his own ship being disabled with him refusing to pass on command of the battle led the British to make a fair few mistakes. Rather than pursuing the battlecruisers, the British stopped to focus entirely on the armoured cruiser Blucher, sinking it but letting the rest of the German force get away. The British had the speed advantage and the Germans did not have any forces in the area to fall back onto, so it should have been a win.
@danielgdrever
@danielgdrever 3 ай бұрын
Just popped up in my suggested. My great gran along with her sisters were on the Flying Kestrel. She did a few interviews about it throughout her life and the story has passed down to us so this is a very interesting visual to go along with it.
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 3 ай бұрын
Would love to see any copy you have of her interviews. I could only find three or four in the library in Kirkwall.
@danielgdrever
@danielgdrever 3 ай бұрын
@@Dreyer1916 You'll likely have come across her then. She was Margaret although only known as Peggie or Peggy (different publications have different spellings) Gibson. There are a few pieces that were in the Orcadian and there are tapes of her telling the story that were recorded by family members which they keep meaning to dig out to be converted and I also believe there was at least one documentary she was interviewed in but I've never seen it. There are quite a few things that pop up online about her if you google her name and the scuttling of the German Fleet.
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 3 ай бұрын
@@danielgdrever In fact I quoted at length from her interviews. In my book I actually say they got the name wrong by calling her Margaret (my mistake!). I'll see if I can find the documentary. It might have been the one with Ludo Kennedy.
@largestudent198
@largestudent198 4 ай бұрын
I remember this battle being so split. The side with least deaths, the side with least total casualties, the side with least lost irreplaceable crews, the side with most total immediate war power lost, the side with most morale lost, etc. were a mixture of Germany and Britain. I think the seagulls won the real ancient battle.
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 4 ай бұрын
A lovely sentiment. Thank you
@DerWonMusics
@DerWonMusics 5 күн бұрын
@@Dreyer1916 thank you for very well done video! I really enjoy history of events that are not famous with most people. I'm very interested in how this video was made. Can i get in contact with the people who made the video animated maps? I'm looking to create videos like this myself. Thank you for your time.
@largestudent198
@largestudent198 4 ай бұрын
The Brits tricked its fool of a captain to do a Leroy Jenkins. While the fool is under fire, the enemy ship types and mentality could be guessed. Of course, the experienced captains on the other "side" also knows about this "survival of the fittest" naval tactic. Welcome to naval warfare.
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 3 ай бұрын
beatty was a fool, if only he died in this battle.
@trashlag
@trashlag 4 ай бұрын
One of those ships that escorted the High Seas Fleet into the Firth of Forth is the U.S.S. Texas, which is berthed just down the road from where I am now in Texas. Magnificent ship.
@jamesallen1563
@jamesallen1563 4 ай бұрын
What music is this? 0:05
@nilshoefnagel5857
@nilshoefnagel5857 4 ай бұрын
Wonderfully made account of the Battle of Jutland! For future reference the 12 inch equivalent in mm is incorrectly listed at 3:55.
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 4 ай бұрын
No problem. It's noted in the description but was simply too expensive to correct and would lose all analytics
@N8570E
@N8570E 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. I was hoping someone would notice that besides me. Stay well and prosper.
@tlmoscow
@tlmoscow 4 ай бұрын
The top of Q turret of HMS Lion was not blown off - rather, one corner was bent back by the shell impact. In the photo shown the damaged plate has been removed as part of repair work. This mistake is an old one.
@vaahtobileet
@vaahtobileet 2 ай бұрын
haha, I love the internet.
@LucioFercho
@LucioFercho Ай бұрын
But it did allow some pressure to escape, in any case, the pressure was enough to: "In the Lion's 'Q turret the ignition of 8-13.5in charges between magazines and guns, all of which were in hoist cages or authorised waiting positions, would have blown up the ship if `Q' magazines had not been closed, and very probably would have done so anyway if they had not been flooded, though the total weight of propellant that ignited was only about a sixth of that in the Seydlitz's fire."
@LucioFercho
@LucioFercho Ай бұрын
You sure? Campbell gives detail of where the plates ended up: "A piece of 9in armour was driven into the gun-house and the shell also entered and burst about 3ft from impact over the centre-line of the left gun, after being deflected slightly on the gun collars. Everyone in the gun-house was killed or wounded. The front roof plate was blown off, and lay upside down on the port side of the deck about 12 ft from the turret, while the centre face plate was also dislodged and came to rest about 15ft abaft the turret and close to the ship's side."
@vaahtobileet
@vaahtobileet Ай бұрын
@@LucioFercho cool name bro
@haouribi
@haouribi 4 ай бұрын
Personally I do think the Germans won, no bias. Britan lost 3 battlecruisers and objective was not fully completed
@thesupremepizza6893
@thesupremepizza6893 4 ай бұрын
The British objective was met, but the German objective wasn't so i myself would call it a British victory. It's sort of like the battle of the Coral Sea. The Japanese failed there objective to cut Australia off from the United States, but inflicted heavier losses on the US than what the US inflicted on them. Or like Stalingrad, in which the Germans inflicted heavier casualties on the Soviets but failed to achieve there objectives, where as the soviets achieved there's. Inflicting heavier losses on your opponents doesn't always mean victory.
@haouribi
@haouribi 4 ай бұрын
@@thesupremepizza6893 I guess it’s a phyrric victory then
@OceanHedgehog
@OceanHedgehog 4 ай бұрын
@@haouribi That's not a Pyrrhic Victory. It's just a flat out loss for the Germans. The British achieved their goals of keeping the Germans bottled up, and bruised their capital ships so badly that the Germans never challenged them again - the British fleet was sailing again in a few weeks at full strength, while the Germans would take far longer to repair their vessels. The Germans failed to break the blockade. The British lost more ships because of Beatty's idiocy, but Germany lost.
@LucioFercho
@LucioFercho Ай бұрын
@@thesupremepizza6893 Then all you have to demonstrate is what the German objective was, just go and quote a German source indicating the HSF failed to achieve it that day. Go ahead... but you wont find any since it was all made up by brit propaganda.
@MarcusAgrippa390
@MarcusAgrippa390 4 ай бұрын
Truly an excellent documentary and an instant favorite. The amount of research and editing must have been huge. My only problem is that there are only this and the video about the German navy scuttling their remaining ships in Scappa Flow at the end of WW1, and I wish there were more. Ridiculously good videos! Cheers!
@SenorTucano
@SenorTucano 4 ай бұрын
The German fleet ran for their lives into port at Horn’s Reef. Jutland hands down was a British victory
@haouribi
@haouribi 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t britan lose 3 battlecruisers?
@OceanHedgehog
@OceanHedgehog 4 ай бұрын
They also never tried to challenge the British again, while the British were rearing for a fight. That alone tells you who won.
@LucioFercho
@LucioFercho Ай бұрын
Wrong, the HSF did sortie again, they remaining in port is old propaganda. Btw, the Germans got home b smashing through the RN DDs at night...
@yadevolkram
@yadevolkram Ай бұрын
Which fleet was stronger the following day? Not the High Seas Fleet.
@LucioFercho
@LucioFercho Ай бұрын
@@yadevolkram Which fleet had lost more? Not the High Seas Fleet.
@albertliu1068
@albertliu1068 4 ай бұрын
Churchill as the 'First Lord of Admiralty' famously said that 'Jellicoe is the man who could lose the war for Britain in one day' ! Strategically as long as Britain could continue to enforce the sea blockade on Germany, Britain would win the war and she did !
@antonysteel8061
@antonysteel8061 4 ай бұрын
The issues with the British battlecruisers was not primarily a design issue. It was primarily down to poor ammunition handling practices instigated by Admiral Beatty and the decision to use the ships in a role they were not designed for. The first 2 classes (which included Invincible and Indefatigable) were not designed to fight capital ships, they were intended as cruiser killers. They were originally termed Dreadnought Armoured Cruisers. In this role they performed admirably - the Battle of the Falklands for example. The loss of the Queen Mary was almost certainly caused by the poor ammunition handling practices instigated by Beatty. By contrast, the captain of HMS Tiger largely ignored Beatty and as a result Tiger survived Jutland in good fighting order despite taking multiple hits.
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 3 ай бұрын
and lets not forget the sheer numbers of destroyers lost directly due to beatty
@LucioFercho
@LucioFercho Ай бұрын
Those ships were badly designed and WERE intended to fight capital ships at range, the RN just believed 15cm armor was enough at range based on the performace of their own shells.
@matthewnewton8812
@matthewnewton8812 4 ай бұрын
I’m stunned that the German navy lowered the flag in honor of Jellicoe when he died- 1935 is right in the middle of the nazi era. Perhaps hitler was in one of those moods when he was convinced the British would “come to their senses” and recognize their German-ness and fight along side them once he started the war…
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 3 ай бұрын
the german and british navy even during the second world war didnt really hate eachover, theyve saved many many sailors from both sides
@LucioFercho
@LucioFercho Ай бұрын
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 The RN left the Bismarck survivors to drown, on purpose, same for Scharnhorst.
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 Ай бұрын
@@LucioFercho the RN did save the survivors of Scarnhorst and bismarck with one famous case of a British sailor jumping in the water to help a German They only abandoned the rescue after they thought they saw a periscope (so a uboat alarm was sounded) in the case of the bismarck, the scarnhorst just didn't have that many survivors to save
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 Ай бұрын
@@LucioFercho hell one of the men who died from his injuries was buried at sea with full military honours by British sailors despite being german
@LucioFercho
@LucioFercho Ай бұрын
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 Yeah, Beatty also saw a periscope when was convenient to him...
@scottygdaman
@scottygdaman 4 ай бұрын
beatty was a serious egotist using lives to feed his moronic hunger
@Strelnikov403
@Strelnikov403 5 ай бұрын
There WAS something wrong with their bloody ships that day - the preening, incompetent boob standing on the compass platform of the Lion, and the even more incompetent boob he put on her flag deck.
@harrylor66
@harrylor66 5 ай бұрын
Scapa Flow! Die Rohre leer, die Kammern leer, so zogen wir hin, ein entwaffnetes Heer, und brachten unsere Schiffe mit eigener Hand, nach Scapa Flow! Dort liegen wir so manchen Tag, doch komme, was kommen mag! Zerbrochen die Macht, doch nicht unser Stolz, wir sind geschnitzt aus zähem Holz, wir Deutschen! Autor: Karl Heidebrunn, Torpedoboot (Zerstörer) B 110, Kaiserliche Deutsche Hochseeflotte, Internierungsverband Scapa Flow, 1919 Scapa Flow! The tubes empty, the chambers empty, so we went, a disarmed Army, and brought our ships with our own hands, to Scapa Flow! There we lie many a day, but come what may! Broken is our power, but not our pride, we are carved from tough wood, we Germans! Author: Karl Heidebrunn, Torpedo boat (destroyer) B 110, Imperial German High Seas Fleet, Scapa Flow internment unit, 1919 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHXHlq1unLpmhrc
@wavecannon3688
@wavecannon3688 5 ай бұрын
Blaming Evan-Thomas for bad signalling from the Flagship (Lion) seems to be poorly placed.
@dmbeaster
@dmbeaster 5 ай бұрын
Beatty was a jerk both during and after this battle. Jellicoe was brilliant. Scheer avoided destruction because of a skillful and difficult u-turn, and also use of the battlecruisers and torpedo attacks to enable the escape. Also, the battle started late in the day, thereby limiting the time available. WWI navies did not have night fighting capabilities to continue the fight.
@acerrspage4205
@acerrspage4205 5 ай бұрын
Insanity in Action.
@raywest3834
@raywest3834 Ай бұрын
@acerrspage4205 The Pacifist Debate settled with a single poetic line: "Pale Ebenezer thought it wrong to fight, but Roaring Bill, who killed him, thought it right." --- Hilaire Belloc
@chris5634C3PO
@chris5634C3PO 5 ай бұрын
A well thought out presentation with a good amount of detail. Thanks.
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Much appreciated.
@Carlschwamberger1
@Carlschwamberger1 5 ай бұрын
Background music is beyond annoying. Cant watch this
@greenflagracing7067
@greenflagracing7067 5 ай бұрын
blame Beatty for not making better use of Evan-Thomas' BBs.
@hoodoo2001
@hoodoo2001 5 ай бұрын
I tire of hyperbole in these type of videos.
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
The hyperbole is what we tried to avoid. For my education, which parts did you consider hyperbole?
@fuelaholic
@fuelaholic 5 ай бұрын
@@Dreyer1916I too am at a loss at to what hyperbole hoodoo is referring too.? This the most detailed, and fact based videos I have seen on Jutland , thank you.
@krismurphy7711
@krismurphy7711 5 ай бұрын
Extremely well done!!
@mikhailiagacesa3406
@mikhailiagacesa3406 5 ай бұрын
Good synopsis.
@keithrees4755
@keithrees4755 5 ай бұрын
may god bless the British people for sacrificing to much in both world wars they were at the start and the middle my country the good old us of a was the finisher
@memadmax69
@memadmax69 5 ай бұрын
Umm... The british started both world wars... "History is written by the victors"...
@keithrees4755
@keithrees4755 5 ай бұрын
@@memadmax69 country's are puppets now and days when the day we took the power away from kings and queens today's kings and queens are puppets authoritarianism is the new king and queens of today
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 3 ай бұрын
@@memadmax69 WW1 was caused by the assassination of ferdinand, and the domino affect of military alliances WW2 was caused by hiltars invasion of poland. the germans were the aggressor in world war 2.
@memadmax69
@memadmax69 3 ай бұрын
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 Why did hitler attack poland in the first place, kicking off WW2? Cause a certain polish general was running around killing ethnic germans living in former german territory. That polish general was given the go ahead to kill germans by a certain british government... I'll let you figure it out the details with your own research... "History is written by the victors"... The bad guys won WW2....
@dan0alda568
@dan0alda568 5 ай бұрын
This is one of the finest documentaries I have ever seen. Will there ever be more?
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for such a nice comment. I hope there will be more but - as always - these aren^'t cheap to produce. My new book on the Submarine War 1914-1918 is coming out in October. I'd love to see that subject as the third animation (the second was made for the centenary of the scuttling of the High Seas Fleet in Scapa Flow)
@hazchemel
@hazchemel 5 ай бұрын
Wonderful thank you. It ignites my amazement at Beattie's stunning silence as Hipper manoeuvres calmly into firing position.
@chrislong3938
@chrislong3938 5 ай бұрын
Truly Excellent!
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@maximkretsch7134
@maximkretsch7134 5 ай бұрын
"There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today!" --- "Today"?!
@robertsolomielke5134
@robertsolomielke5134 5 ай бұрын
TY for a great account of a historic battle.
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 5 ай бұрын
What of The RN and the famous Signals Intelligence ?
@apfelsnutz
@apfelsnutz 5 ай бұрын
This is a most excellent film... Thank You.
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
Very much appreciate your comment. Alwas good to hear when someone has enjoyed it.
@jeffblacky
@jeffblacky 5 ай бұрын
Wow admit that the US helped a little
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
@@jeffblacky at Jutland? Or thereafter? My next book is about the submarine war where William Sims USN played a decisive role
@jeffblacky
@jeffblacky 5 ай бұрын
@@Dreyer1916 no Americans at Jutland , not even observers , now that would been intresting. But England admitting that the US helped in anything is like pulling teeth with a pair of cup holders . I been hearing that " US never really helped in both World Wars , i heard the same crap when i got to Baghdad and ran into a group of Royal Marines that was leaving country. I said " What you fellows doing here ?" .. the officer said " Teaching the Yanks how to Fight " ... i said " Like Dunkirk ? , you did a great job there" So i been hearing it since the 1980's , UK as a whole hates the US , I been to UK and treated with a bit of arrogance in their manners. Quickly they forget that we took the blunt of all combat actions from late 1942 onward
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
@@jeffblacky Admiral Jellicoe's words when DD-8 arrived in Queenstown as the first American USN units to enter the war in 1917: "My dear Taussig, I retain very pleasant and vivid recollections of our association in China, and I am indeed delighted that you have been selected for the command of the first force which is coming to fight for freedom, humanity and civilization. We shall have our work cut out to subdue piracy. My experience in China makes me perfectly convinced that the two nations will work in the closest co-operation, and I won’t flatter you by saying too much about the value of your help. I must say this, however. There is no navy in the world that can possibly give us more valuable assistance, and there is no personnel in any navy that will fight better than yours." The submarine war could not have been won without American help. The British simply did not have enough destroyers to implement Convoy.
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 3 ай бұрын
@@jeffblacky by 1917 the royal navy has already defeated the germans, by the time the americans came in ww2 the luftwaffe was basically already defeated, and so too was there navy and tanks, sure they still has soldiers.. but thats all americans faced american soldiers were basically of no help in both world wars, both wars were already decided by that point.
@jeffblacky
@jeffblacky 3 ай бұрын
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 laugh , lend lease , american merchant shipping in 1940 , yeah right dude , please keep drinking your tea and read some church hill
@wiretamer5710
@wiretamer5710 5 ай бұрын
The British capacity for passive aggressive vindictive sadism is unequaled in the annals of human conflict.
@AGallion
@AGallion 5 ай бұрын
"Lass die alten in frieden ruhen, unter den wellen von Scapa." High Seas Fleet 1907 - 1919
@Dreyer1916
@Dreyer1916 5 ай бұрын
nicely said
@AGallion
@AGallion 5 ай бұрын
Danke, das Kaiser's Flotte wird nie vergessen werden.
@AGallion
@AGallion 5 ай бұрын
It would have been an interesting sight to see Derfflinger on the bottom of Scapa, along with the battleships Markgraf, Konig, and Kronprinz Wilhelm. If she had not have been raised before the outbreak of WWII, she would have been one of the last German battlecruisers on the sea floor today, alongside her sistership, Lutzow.
@cklljlncof6184
@cklljlncof6184 5 ай бұрын
History The narrow sand tombolo of Agger Tange connected North Jutland Island to the Jutland Peninsula between c. 1200 and 1825. The area became an island again due to a storm on 3 February 1825, when the North Sea broke through the Agger Tange in its far southwest, separating the area from mainland Jutland and creating the Agger Channel.[3] The current separator is the Thyborøn Channel, created slightly further south by a flood in 1862. The original Agger Channel filled up with sand in 1877. The system was a medieval sub-division regarded as the oldest type of administrative unit in Denmark, having existed since before the Middle Ages. The land of the North Jutlandic Island was divided into two of these: Thysyssel (including Hanherred) and Vendsyssel vide more www.wikipedia.org
@michaelpielorz9283
@michaelpielorz9283 5 ай бұрын
Again that stupid Myth of stock piling charges outside the magazin.first the speed of firing is determined by theSHELL hoists! thats a insult to all brave sailors who died calling them suicidal idiots! the myth was created to save Churchill . after the Doggerbank battle it was evident british and german flashproof doors were faulty designs.the germans made investigations and no cordite explosion happend on german shipsagain Mr Churchill forbade any investigation, he wante a unquestioned victory. than happened Jutland. something had to be done to save his career.the new myth had two benefits. no no no not the germans could not sink our flawless ships our turret crews did it while trying to perform best! the british sources can be found anywhere outside the Imperial War Museum(Ihad often visited) bot must of you will prefere to ignore them. at last did HOOD SUNK again by leaving doors open??
@thesupremepizza6893
@thesupremepizza6893 5 ай бұрын
Could you tell me what the sources, I'm actually quite interested to learn more about this.
@andrewholdaway813
@andrewholdaway813 5 ай бұрын
Well there did seem to be an obsession with RoF since Nelsons day, so who can say at this distance in time. PS Churchill did leave a trail of disaster and death in his wake.
@charlesharper2357
@charlesharper2357 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't a myth. Several historical sources report that it was standard practice...including actual service members.
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 3 ай бұрын
@@charlesharper2357 it wasnt techinally standard, not all ships did it.
@charlesharper2357
@charlesharper2357 3 ай бұрын
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 You're being pedantic. It was a commonly known fact that it was common practice on large gun ships.