I see he added this info

If you think driving is a relaxing thing, then you are not paying enough attention when you are driving. Driving is a constant process of both operating a vehicle in a manera that obeys the law and, at the same time, having a constant awareness of all the surroundings, traffic behavior, pedestrian behavior, weather behavior, road conditions, etc... When you add all the variables, FSD or not, it is never a "relaxing" scenario. The difference between the two constant stress inducing scenarios, is that FSD removes a little of the vehicle operation factor, adds surroundings awareness with its 7-8 cameras, but adds a variable of uncertainty as to not knowing 100% what will FSD do in certain niche scenarios. In my opinion, the pros outweigh the cons when using FSD.

@@joseangelhr I imagine the tension of "relaxing"while ready to grab the wheel is a lot more taxing than just driving, and harder to maintain alertness need.

@@tomgilfoyle6849 At no moment, I said that FSD is "relaxing." If you're not going to read the responses, then you shouldn't be asking questions. You just want to argue.

@@joseangelhrppl that allow trash “autopilot” knowing there are ppl on motorcycles that could be smashed by their thousand pound vehicle shouldn’t be driving either.

FSD makes mistakes every day. A human can drive for years without an accident.

I’m currently 1200 miles from home and I drove here with the previous FSD version. I’ll see what it’s about when I leave, but it’s gonna take a lot. There are some really good things but it’s mostly like baby sitting a brand new driver.

I have 2nd half of 2019 hardware - never needed to get an upgrade for FSD.

_in a few more iterations of hardware and software it will be safe to put the seat back and have a snooze_ Ha! That is *years* *away* . Right now, FSD is a simple Level 2 assistant, nothing more.

Indeed. One or two in 40 mins is not impressive. Version 12.4 is supposed to be much better, but we'll see - I've heard that too many times when it wasn't true to believe it by default.

@@ZacharyShahan You are right. Hype from Elon or the fanboys rarely holds up in real life.

So, just use the "interesting" spots? I always feel like I'd rather show it all unedited for authenticity, but I get the point, and think maybe that is the better way to go. Appreciate your feedback and always value your opinion!

Hoping to get it this weekend and try it out ...

Thanks. The mic has a noise reduction cover, but I'm going to try switching to a lapel mic, think it will be better.

Over the last 2 months, the progress has been "Baby Steps" as another KZbin creator has said. The latest 12.3.6 still makes mistakes every day, on any challenging drive.

@@DerekDavis213 You’re a bot that’s on every fsd channel . Cmon gtfo

@@DerekDavis213 aren’t you the bot on every fsd video saying it’s going to fail?

@@ryansmithc There behaviour surely is bot-like ...

:D

Watch FSD videos in New York, Toronto, Los Angeles. You won't be bored. Lots of *interventions* needed in the big city. FSD is a simple Level 2 assistant. Nothing more.

@@DerekDavis213 I'm too lazy to search one. Can you please post a video?

Thanks. Eager to hear about any specific cases to see if they fit what we've seen or add onto those cases.

@@ZacharyShahan Actual interventions where I seized control, in about two hours of driving: FSD got the speed limit wrong, and started to accelerate above a 60 km/h limit (37.5 mph). I braked. FSD started to overtake a slow truck while in a controlled intersection. I steered to prevent it. FSD did not take a highway exit contrary to the indicated navigation route. I steered to take the exit.

@@arbitrary76 Not sure if 3 interventions in 2 hours could be called "quite frequently", but ok.

Thanks!

I agree on some of the issues I brought up, but not all of them.

Zach said this in his video.

Did you watch the video? I specifically mentioned this and referenced NASA research.

@@ZacharyShahan yes I watched the video. You rambled and equivocated and said you think it will work, but maybe you doubt it will work and you mentioned inattentive driving, but completely leave it up to chance and yhe viewer's own bias if they want to still belive in the myth of self driving as you still find impossible to shake. Don't get offended if someone reinforced a point you barely made. If you truly understand this premise, you'll realize that supervised FSD is a super dangerous product to operate. You'll commit to not continue to experiment with crapoy unnecessary tech in traffic with other people who never agreed to be part of Tesla's beta test. If you kill me with your Tesla, Elon will tell you it was your fault. So why is it taking until now for you to listen to the NASA study you reference?

You don't seem to realize how good Waymo is in their ODDs. They are driverless only in difficult city centers: in the entire San Fran, in downtown L.A., in 1/3 of Phoenix including downtown and the airport, and in Austin. They are also now driverless on freeways in Phoenix with a small initial test fleet. They have eleven million miles of continuous driverless robotaxi operation in these difficult areas with no big crash. FSD won't come close to matching that in any big city within two years. I doubt they will even be good enough to pull the driver and let one car drive around in a real city within two years. Tesla FSD avoids crashing now because a human is always driving.