When i listened to all this, i ask myself in which Germany you guys live in. And then i think about the Indian folklore about the 6 blind men and the elephant. Black pple have the tendency to generalise. Like most social experiences, there are a lot of nuances which can be raised. Your experience is your experience. I cannot take that awsy from you, but to try to portray your experience as the "way Germans are" is at least disturbing and worst, dishonest. The only thing black pple master today is to complain. We complain about everything. We even complain about aid given to us. We have become too cynical. And it is turning a lot of good non-african pple away from our sincere struggles. I have lived 25 years in Germany as a migrant and i have been with black women and white women . And my advice to my black sisters is " put your acts together" instead of just complaining.

She really spoke like a real woman nevertheless I think we as black people don’t talk about this enough what am I talking about,she said something about how blackman treat white woman and blackwoman. That’s a very good point but most black woman luck respect especially when the find them selfs in Europe am a victim of this kind of behaviour.she treatd me like a dog even though I did anything for her without her asking because I believe we are a team but that wasn’t the case My point here is we should really check ourself before we try to confront some issues regarding interracial relationships and racial relationships I’m engaged to a white woman now she treats me like gold so I treat her like diamond As blacks we are our own problems my brothers and sisters

Very interesting perspective. At least parents now have the choice and options.

The recommendation is optional in northern germany, but in bavaria, for example, it is mandatory. So, the further you go south the more likely you may encounter conservative ideas. And adhering to orders is conservative. Another thing is, the different schools used to be strictly divers in target job groups: Gymnasium prepared for studies, Realschule prepared office workers, and Hauptschule prepared Handwerker. But things are gradually changing. On one side, more and more parents sent their kids to Gymnasium, just to preserve their chances. On the other side, office and constructive workers are seen better and have higher level today. So its not that easy. What should be remembered as well: the vocational training of technical workers in germany is often as highly qualified as a university degree. Workers in germany are seldomly uneducated. And the former strictly seperate working classes now merge together: in the 80s and 90s the Blue Collar and White Collar workers came closer and closer, and today even academics come into the game. In my company for example, there are a lot of "dual students" doing a vocational IT qualification and then on top a university BA (or skip that, if they dont like so much theoretical stuff).

Good for her. I can't imagine living in a place like Germany. I am even afraid to visit. I feel like they haven't changed much.

When will intelligent black people build their own nations? There are 54 African countries and a host of Caribbean islands dominated by people of African descent. Why continue to build Europe? They have had centuries of our free labor. When will it end? How many ways do they have to tell us that they don't want us?

1:40 I often hear claims of lack of money as a reason for racism, but I think that't just an excuse. I think racists just need to feel superior to others, and look for targets to beat up. Sure, when people don't have enough money in their pockets their resentment of others often increases - but there is no shortage of rich racists as well. 5:39 The "I don't see color" approach comes with a lot of privilege - as in, "I can ignore your entire life experiences as irrelevant."

She is sooooo beautiful! This was a great conversation.

This woman is really dedicated to our people. She has a vision and is hard working yet the road is very, very difficult.

There is not black germans, they are just blacks

You will never be German

After a hundred Years in Black America this is still very much a fierce debate. TO achieve power first through Economics and Then Politics Or to Organize People into Coalitions to vote for Political Influence ?.. America Elected 1 Black president and soon Maybe another. Many are still conflicted over whether Power and Equity was Achieved through these apparent victories in Politics. Certainly Higher accumulation of Wealth delivers higher chances in the Courts..(Though may not work for Diddy) Considering these groups that have carved out a Measureable amount in the Economy Of Germany -Turkey - Poland - Russia - Italy - Syria - Lebanon - Various African countries - Vietnam - China - Various Balkan countries - Caribbean countries - Latin American countries Which of these groups have Political or Social Power(Respect) in Germany and in what ways is it demonstrated? Certainly Africans (and Black Americans for that matter) could create more businesses.... in Germany that would deliver income particularly in an uncertain labor market. ...but bigger Innovating enterprises that could employ larger numbers of people in so called Mittelstand Companies that engage in manufacturing for the Export sector might have more Impact. Entering those sectors may require greater organized and cohesive efforts across National Boundaries.....This is where so called PanAfricanism really matters ....linking African Expats in Europe and Asia with our Bretheren in Africa. It could be the case that our People who got degrees especially in the West got absorbed by Corporations and thus never eventually leverage insider knowledge to build these Mittlestand companies that we would own. the shifting BRICS landscape should create a large number of new opportunities and no doubt challenges to go with it. There was a magazine in America for Black Business and Corporations called Black Enterprise it was started 50 years ago it was like a Black Version of Forbes. Is there anything like that magazine, in the UK, Germany, Netherlands etc?

Rly nonwhite creatures as germans...

You know these Europeans wanted to control the world, so they are all over the world. They just couldn't stay in Europe. Now they are paying the price. They are in Africa, the Americas, Australia and New Zealand. If they weren't so greedy. They would have a lot less problems.

It’s become a problem all over Europe.

Race is a construct made up of White men. We are a human race. We have African nations and aborginal people worldwide, but there is no "Black" race. "Black" people in modern times are the lineage of people enslaved in the United States of American Black Americans. White people reclassified the aboriginal people of the land to "Black, Negro, Mulatto" after the civil war. Those people fought for African people to come to America; some second-generation people no longer identify with the continent. The same thing happens to Africans born abroad, especially if they have mixed lineage. Being "Black" for most Africans only happens after they leave their homelands. They misnamed the so called American "Negro" as a African American today.

Great conversation! Subscribed.

I don't think there is such a "Black German Community". Majority of black people in Germany, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Portugal, France etc. still are heavily connected to their africa heritages and are more attached to their African countries instead of a monolith black community like in USA. Europe is not like USA. I am Angolan living in Germany and first thing that comes into my mind when i see a fellow guy with my skin color is, "Wich country is he from?" "Does he speak my countrys language?"

Hi there! I listened to the podcast with great interest. It is, now, minute 28, that I would disagree with what was said. So from the historical perspective, this might be true. But today, it realy isnt. And even when I was at that point in school, which happens to be quite some years ago, it wasnt like that. Nowadays, it is a lot about inclusion. And for a child, that had the potential to visit a gymnasium e.g. but like myself had some trouble with being not very good at structure (keeping ur homework straight, having everything tidy up) the recomondation was to visit "Realschule" (The more or less "middle" part of the three educations). Not judged by the potential, but judgde by "this could be to overwhelming". However, when I was in the 6 grade, two years into Realschule, a lot of teachers said to my parents, that they would recommend changing school to "Gymnasium". Just because I good more mature, and had a better behaving and now could better live up to my potential. So my point is, that its not nessesarily smth about "filtering", but more about keeping an eye on the whole child, not just grades, but also potential, and social skills. I hope, it was clear enough. Sorry for the bad spelling. And of course, this is my opinion. To be clear and truthfull, I am born here, and I am white. Therefore, I realy cant compare, nor is it my wish to say that what was said here, in the podcast, is neither true nor false. Its just my POV. Cheers mate. Keep up the good work Best regards from Lübeck //edit// I should have listened a bit longer. It seems like Mrs. Appiah had some simialar experience. And more or less made the same point I was trying to make.

As a Black American I can relate to almost every aspect of the Hon Irene Appiah's story. As I reflect on my Southern Born Parents who moved from an All Black Town to an Integrated Town 12 hours North in the USA. They wanted us to study Law, Medicine, Engineering. They always had Black History and culture books and magazines On the Shelf in the Home. I never had a clear enough perspective to want to take on American Institutions as a Lawyer , Doctor or Engineer where I had a vague sense that in entering those professions I would have to fight what I knew was Unethical or adverse to my developing principles.....despite as I learned later we already had Lawyers, Doctors and Engineers amongst our relatives. Instead I got a degree in Economics and entered the Corporate world where it was a constant battle to retain myself and to try to focus on starting my own Thing. Only now am I independent with my own Project Management Firm. I wonder if Our Diasporan Family in the UK, France, Germany, Netherlands etc also have Black history books in their home, that tell the story of our fight for self determination in the countries our parents and grandparents migrated to. I remember ordering a book from the UK more that 10 years ago called The Oxford Companion to Black British History by David Dabydeen .. and from that it ocurred to me that Black Americans and Black British have many connecting experiences. I also realize that Black People have been in Europe for Hundreds of Years and can rightfully lay claim to Unique Identities there VS always feeling Outcast as the "Other " I admire Your work Salut

Glad to see a new video. I've been looking forward to one so I'll get back with you once I've watched the video. Ok, this comment is for the discussion up what to call one selves.As a black American I can easily relate, We've been called coloreds.negroes, black Americans, and Afro Americans by whites and ourselves. Nowadays I 'think' black or Afro Americans, short for African Americans are the most common. That said, one will not get a consensus on this from Blacks. Some do not want the word African in there as they say they are not African, but American. Others feel the opposite about it. Just 2 news videos I saw recently on KZbin. A white South African woman went to Guyana in South America and started making Tik Tok videos about how she was the most attractive woman in the country and referencing the James Town massacre. The Guyanese kicked her out of the country with comments like the following. "Who does she think she is to come to a country of brown and black people with our own standards of beauty, but she thinks cause she's white she's the most beautiful. By the way, they made her apologize before kicking her out. Another video I saw just yesterday was of an African woman from Somalia I believe having a shouting match with black Americans. She was calling us slaves, the N word, no good for nothings, lazy, uneducated, etc And the Americans were shouting right back at here. Broke my heart. Ok, I'll watch more of the video later. Life. There is always the question here in the US as to if Africans and African Americans like each other. Personally here in the US I've had very good friendships with a man from Cameroon and a woman and her daughter from Eritrea. One of my best friends in France was from the Congo. I recently met a shop owner from Egypt with whom I discuss a lot of topics.

That's really a great conversation....

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Tyler Perry is against We BW the reason I do not watch his movies, Ss for me it was always the oyinbo guys that has followed and stalked me in Germany 23 years living in Germany the brothers has never harassed me .

Would love to hear the different culture dynamics between Zimbabwe and Germany from Rufaro since she's Zimbabwean herself🇿🇼

Would love to hear the different culture dynamics between Zimbabwe and Germany from Rufaro since she's Zimbabwean herself🇿🇼

If they are in love why do they keep asking if bw care, it shouldnt matter. Its giving attention seeking.

Black Germany has picked up habits of Germany? It’s Germany after all.

One of my favorite things about Germany is that so many different cultural identities can come together under the German umbrella. I’m happy to live in a country that tries hard to move forward on human rights. And something that good should be shared :)

Great topic! The only thing that was missing was having a guest around who was born and bread in Germany and did not came as a migrant. That perspective would have brought a complete different depth into the conversation.

02:15 it's not true for all parts of Germany. Because every state has its own rules. For example in Niedersachsen it's not free at all.

It is only getting worse. Like we see in England nowadays. And its Not the fault of the hosts.

Your comment on possibly people using English more than German to promote their businesses, etc perked up my ears. It made me think of another entrepenure I've been following recently. He's a black American married with a woman from Venezuela and they have 2 children. This man buys, sells and owns properties in the US, Italy, Brazil, Columbia and I think Spain. When I started watching his videos he was doing a lot on owning property in Italy, and taking advantage of houses being sold in Sicily for $1 as advertised on CNN some time back. He loves Italy, but decided that he did not want to live permanently there because he wants his 2 young daughters to grow up speaking a more international language than Italian for which he just doesn't see it as having much cachet. Similarly, I never forget an article I read several years ago titled: Let's stop pretending that French is an Important Language written by linguist John McWhorter. He believes that French has lost a lot of its cachet and that fewer and fewer people are studying it in the US compared to Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, etc. Take away the number of French speakers from Africa, the Caribbean, etc and one has a lot fewer French speakers in the world. Personally, speaking French has been very good for me and one of the reasons I wanted to learn it is because of African Francophone diaspora around the world. I have absolutely no regrets that I learned French. I'm trying to learn German for personal interests not for its global reach. Thanks for the topic which I find very interesting. Oh, I almost forgot, anyone interested in the brother buying and selling properties outside the US, check out his website: / KZbin blog; Karl Pierre.

Das mit der Sprache verstehe nicht. Ich war früher zwar öfter in England hab nie da gewohnt, kann mich aber ganz gut auf Englisch verständigen und verstehe es auch ganz gut, ich hab Bekannte aus England und USA die perfekt Deutsch reden der Akzent ist egal und teilweise bloß erst 2 3 Jahre hier leben. Sprachkurse sind gut und schön aber richtig lernt man durch die Medien Zeitung lesen, Bücher, mit Kindern sprechen, Kindersendungen, Kino. Und nicht dauernd denken, das ist so schwer, die ganzen Idioten uber die du dich zu recht beschwerst haben es ja auch gelernt . Bargeld ist mir wichtig, obwohl ich höchstens 10 %bar zahle. Ich traue weder Banken noch den Konzern, im Zweifel sollen die nicht wissen was ich wie wo kaufe bzw bezahle. Wenn jmd kein Bargeld annimmt, dann bekommt er meine kohlr halt nicht. Und wenn er keine Karte annimmt, wenn ich mit Karte zahlen will auch nicht, Pech gehabt. Sich im Straßenverker zu ärgern lohnt sich nicht, ich nehme Rücksicht, bin naturlich die beste Autofahrerin der Welt und sonne mich in meiner Arroganz. ,,,,,,,,,,,,, hier die nicht gesetzten Kommata zur freien Verfügung.

I m from Hamburg and live here. Been to London a lot and have lots of friends there… - nightlife … compared to London ? Yes, you right. Other than that it depends on what you are looking for. I can‘t say that Berlin doesn‘t offer a lot etc. , but i ve never really enjoyed the party scene. If i was into electronic dance music, that would be totally different - language … maybe try to watch movies etc. in German with subtitles. I m a huge believer that diving into another language even if it seems as if you don‘t understand anything, you actually do and learn without noticing - cash … without cash the government has total control over you. That last little resort of freedom matters imo - traffic … imo the driving in Germany gets worse and worse. A lot of people just don‘t think, not to mention thinking about others. Driving for an hour through Hamburg gets me stressed out and angry. I noticed the difference after using the subway again. It wasn‘t like that 10 or 20 yrs ago. I have no idea why this has changed ?! Smartphonesand SUV‘s maybe idk

All I see is a couple.

i wonder what rent is like in hamburg and dating as a black brit i wana research more!!

Welcome in germany

I want ppl to be happy. I could literally care less who anyone dates. Frankly, it's weird that anyone would care.

No, we're happy for them. If theyre happy, we're happy. It has absolutely nothing to do with color, only character.

had a coworker who moved from state new york to germany and he couldnt get over the fact that I wouldnt be more scared over 2 black guys crossing my path at night than over 2 white guys....like if I'm in a shitty neighborhood (why would I ever if its THIS bad but anyway) everyone is an enemy. there is no black or white. its more about where I am and what body language the people speak. he told me I'm lying when i say it doesnt make a diff to me....like wtf...how fucked up can you be in your head T.T

We just say, aren't they happy together, hat a nice couple.

go live a while in Saxony, Thüringen, rural Bavaria or Brandenburg before talking race relations ... the handful of large multicultural cities in Germany which actually developed tolerance dont really represent Germany very well. Not saying its particular horrible anywhere, just that the differences how a person of color is treated across Germany are huge. Especially in the far right regions you wont have the feeling of acceptance, inclusion and safety, especially when you are also from a non-western culture.

Hey as an white german this has happend to me at least a half a dozen times, especially from older people. Its such a german specific thing that most kids make fun of it nowadays. It could be that you get more of it but its not uncommon and more of an unpleasent quirk of german people.

i am turkish born in germany. the most racisism is against black ppl and muslims. i really feel with you guys. racists arent developped although they think they are more civilized. what an irony!

Agree to fullest. I think it comes with wealth. The impuls to protect your stuff instead of develope and risk it.

Hey guys very interesting, but shouldnt we stop talking about "black" and "white"..m 43 year old and have never seen a person in that color,,,only people of different shades of brown

As a South African living in Germany I can totally relate to the driving etiquette problem. I felt right at home driving in the UK. Still getting used to German drivers after 7 years.

Oh, you hit the cash and ATM problem on the head and in the face!

You like Hamburg? Well then you’ll enjoy the Sharia and Muslim mob rule 🤦‍♂️ This video and comment section are total leftist bs.