RGB Video Quality Comparison on SNES
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@ionluv
@ionluv Ай бұрын
fantastic video.
@koopaklaw4605
@koopaklaw4605 5 ай бұрын
I have no clue why this showed up on my feed now but it's a good video
@XperimentorEES
@XperimentorEES 8 ай бұрын
It is disappointing most speedrunners do the snes version because it's lacking in comparison to the genesis one. Though regarding the 1-hit final kill, I think it's a bug triggered by whipping at the same time you collide with her, but I'm not entirely sure. Thanks for sharing the bonus screen though!
@loronwatson8294
@loronwatson8294 9 ай бұрын
Those aren't spiders those are alien face huggers.
@meep2059
@meep2059 10 ай бұрын
Very good video.
@MultiDudeman
@MultiDudeman Жыл бұрын
Good playthrough, you should do a video for a run of the second game too, earthworm jim 2
@shadymaint1
@shadymaint1 Жыл бұрын
The NES was only designed to be viewed on a CRT TV. The resolution is only so good. The NES put out video that looked right at home on a CRT. It's only when you use a HD TV that the image quality of the NES becomes an issue. The zapper gun only works with a CRT as well. I keep a old CRT around for playing my NES.
@TrekDelta
@TrekDelta Жыл бұрын
You forgot about component cables.
@connorflippen2162
@connorflippen2162 2 жыл бұрын
SNES Version
@MrCashoos
@MrCashoos 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not against modding consoles to output a sharper video signal BUT you have to remember that those games were designed with all the RF and Composite artifacts and limitations in mind. Things like giving the ilusion of a larger color palette and fake transparency effects by using color bleeding in their favor and mitigating the blocky nature of pixels with the blurriness of those signals were part of the developer's intentions when developing for this old consoles and CRT sets.
@snesinfoguy
@snesinfoguy 2 жыл бұрын
For most games, I'd say things just look sharper/better, but one good example that outlines what you're talking about would be the waterfalls in Sonic the Hedgehog on the Sega Genesis. When they're dead sharp via an RGB connection they just don't look quite right.
@Anonymous-db2de
@Anonymous-db2de 2 жыл бұрын
I never realized how nice these are until your comparison. It literally makes it 16 bit clear like you said!
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays people are into the NTSC and other artifacts because game artists used them to create graphics that looked better than the system could produce
@Aod-kp2oz
@Aod-kp2oz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care if you can mod it to output HDMI. I have played the OG and HDMI and there is no noticeable difference. The system and games where designed for a/v and not HDMI. It's not worth hacking up a nostalgic system for a better picture when you can buy a retron for less than 100 dollars.
@lincruste
@lincruste 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for a perfect video. No shaky cam, no improvisation, no stupid music, just clear and informative content. I wouldn't do that mod because to me shitty image is part of my NES nostalgia, but I do appreciate your work.
@randolphcarr4316
@randolphcarr4316 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I purchase the multi port connector?
@CLTurtle
@CLTurtle 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, you made me chuckle
@thegamemodder2000
@thegamemodder2000 3 жыл бұрын
Does giving rgb to any game console always require the graphics ic? What if I instead used something like microcontrollers or plug n plays that feature games it in?
@4eberhardetc983
@4eberhardetc983 3 жыл бұрын
What a clear way to explain!! Thanks for this great exposition.
@javiles2331
@javiles2331 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video would this work on a regular crt?
@EchonYT
@EchonYT 3 жыл бұрын
is this kosmic
@SonofTheMorningStar666
@SonofTheMorningStar666 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there algorithm. Here's a great video for you to promote.
@djmikewise
@djmikewise 3 жыл бұрын
That's some really nice work! I love the clean flush look.
@toiletbowl04
@toiletbowl04 3 жыл бұрын
Mike tysons punchout it my favorite game of all time
@mirabilis
@mirabilis 3 жыл бұрын
Young adults? We're almost 40 ffs.
@MaximRecoil
@MaximRecoil 3 жыл бұрын
The 72-pin connector doesn't get "loose". The original ones were "loose" when brand new. They get dirty/oxidized. Any original connector will work perfectly when it's clean (the game cartridge pins have to be clean too, of course). I've cleaned ones that were so well-used that some of the plastic ribs between the pins had long since broken off, and they worked perfectly when clean too. My NES with its original "loose" connector boots the first time, every time, and I've yet to see a "death grip" aftermarket connector do that. A lot of people might be thinking, "I've already tried cleaning the connector and it didn't work." If it didn't work that means that whatever method you used to clean the pins, didn't actually clean them. For example, people commonly try to clean the pins with isopropyl alcohol, which isn't very effective. Alcohol is a solvent, which means it will remove oils (and the dirt that the oils have trapped), but it does little to nothing against oxidation, and oxidation is usually the problem. You need something like a good contact cleaner, or vinegar (acetic acid), or what I use, Bar Keepers Friend powder mixed with water and a toothbrush (oxalic acid is the active ingredient). Of course, you need to take the NES apart and remove the 72-pin connector so that you can give it a good scrubbing.
@MaximRecoil
@MaximRecoil 3 жыл бұрын
The NES generates an excellent composite video signal; the best I've ever seen from any video device. Output it to a real TV (15 kHz CRT) like it was designed for, preferably a newer one (they pretty much stopped making CRTs in general by 2008) or a high-end one of any vintage, with a good comb filter, and the picture is beautiful. For example, this is a picture of my NES displaying on my TV: i.imgur.com/8GKRdWi.jpg The NES's composite video only looks bad if you try to display it on something it was never designed for, like one of those glorified calculator screens that passes for a "TV" these days.
@RoomerJ
@RoomerJ 3 жыл бұрын
This is still the best but composite isn't that bad, he must have been using bad cables. Crt with composite (maybe with a filter mod), S-video or rgb are the absolute indisputable best option period. Hdmi mod has lag, not much but it's there, not to mention the litney of other issues that comes with playing a system and it's games that were made/developed exclusively for use on crt monitors.
@TechHowden
@TechHowden 3 жыл бұрын
Will the original Composite and RF connections still work?
@TheMikeyb86
@TheMikeyb86 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but they do need proper wiring.
@collj86
@collj86 3 жыл бұрын
Hello I have a modded nes i bought off ebay it has rgb The carts are hard to physically push in But my bigger problem is my nes. I have two one stock one rgb. But my monitor which is an rgb ikegami isnt displaying the video correctly Anyway i love the monitor. I had it working with a sega genesis. But wondered if you had any thoughts on what could be wrong? When i first plugged it in it worked but i think the colors were off? But it gave me a taste of rgb and id love to play nintendo on it
@adimifus
@adimifus 3 жыл бұрын
Does it have a blinking light win installed? The initial version had a very tight connector that made it hard to insert and remove games, but it was tweaked shortly after launch to fix that problem. What do the colors look like? Are they completely wrong, like maybe the color signal wires got installed wrong? Or are the colors brighter than what you expected? It could be a simple as the wrong palette was wired as default.
@glr
@glr 3 жыл бұрын
You're looking at this all wrong. The artifacts from signal degradation are part of the anticipated experience when the games were released. "Cleaning them up" is taking you away from the experience. I also take my movies unaltered, black & white, with film grain in tact where possible for the same reason.
@RDMANGLEYT
@RDMANGLEYT 3 жыл бұрын
back in the day, going single wire was not optimal, through those times we kept saying, MORE WIRES MORE WIRES!!! MORE WIRES TO BREAK UP THE SIGNALS FOR BETTER QUALITY!!!! then in 2002 after HDMI comes out
@oldmanmillennial1980
@oldmanmillennial1980 4 жыл бұрын
Why won't a composite video to s video adapter work for the og nes?
@mrhobs
@mrhobs 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure but guessing if you’re feeding a bad signal into an adapter, there’s not much it can do to make the signal any cleaner. This mod goes right to the source of the signal... (Garbage in, garbage out, etc.)
@Weneedaplague
@Weneedaplague 4 жыл бұрын
-Calls mini-din 9 a proprietary- Wha-
@saysbadman
@saysbadman 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the journey. Thanks for the video! I have a hi def nes kit install on my top loader, but after get hd retrovision cable for my n64 and snes jr I am thinking of this mod for my front loader nes. Do the original nes ports (composite/RF) still work after the mod? Can you get composite or svideo from the new multiport or just rgb?
@snesinfoguy
@snesinfoguy 4 жыл бұрын
The multi-out on mine carries rgb, s-video, and composite video generated from the nesrgb board which is apparently better than native composite. Additionally, I wired up the three-position switch so that two positions use two different color profiles via the nesrgb, while the third position bypasses the nesrgb so that native composite and rf can be used. I wanted to only add rather than sacrifice one for another. So yes, it is possible to have it all!
@saysbadman
@saysbadman 4 жыл бұрын
Informationator thanks, looks like I have work to do.
@TheMikeyb86
@TheMikeyb86 4 жыл бұрын
@@snesinfoguy I want to do exactly this: "Additionally, I wired up the three-position switch so that two positions use two different color profiles via the nesrgb, while the third position bypasses the nesrgb so that native composite and rf can be used." Mind telling/showing me how you wired that? Thanks a ton!
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 4 жыл бұрын
FYI if you can find the audio processor in NES most games were created in stereo. Then modify the output.
@adimifus
@adimifus 3 жыл бұрын
You can create "pseudo-stereo" by connecting each of the two CPU pins to left and right outputs, but it was never intended to be heard that way. It can sound more interesting, but no game was designed to be played in "steteo". Maybe some homebrew *might* have been designed to take advantage of that, but certainly no commercial software.
@philiplara3798
@philiplara3798 4 жыл бұрын
All we need now are stickers to hide the ugly parts XD and thank you for this content
@tokugawa7
@tokugawa7 4 жыл бұрын
any way to purchase an nes already mod defined this fashion?
@Heppsxd
@Heppsxd 4 жыл бұрын
Is the composite out still active when using rgb out? So can i use the composite out to a capture card and the scart to a tv simultaneously?
@pungisotu
@pungisotu 4 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure the RGB board from Tim Worthington disables the composite out. I know it did on mine. I have an RGB NES and the AV outs give me a white screen. However, if your mod included a multi out for the RGB you can use SNES AV multiout and it will be better anyway being transcoded from the RGB.
@informationator1045
@informationator1045 4 жыл бұрын
​@@pungisotu It all depends on how you wire up the three-position switch on the bottom of the console. There is an option to have three color palettes, but you can also have only two color palettes and have one position of the switch bypass the NESRGB board and use the original outputs. Since I only wanted two color palettes and like the idea of original functionality, I went with the second option. To answer HePPS's question, it IS possible to use the original composite output, but it is NOT possible to use the original composite output and RGB output simultaneously.
@darklordyianni4463
@darklordyianni4463 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@saurabhupadhyay977
@saurabhupadhyay977 4 жыл бұрын
Replacement wire available on AliExpress
@elmascholo13
@elmascholo13 5 жыл бұрын
cool video man, except for those struts you made out of wood lol......should have used some good looking plastic or something other than wood.......
@DunkeysLongLostSon
@DunkeysLongLostSon 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the ice puns. This is an amazing video! It's a shame that all that hard work on making this video look pristine and just simply amazing didn't get even close to the level of recognition it should have had. Love this video, it's a masterpiece. Gonna subscribe and hope that one day you upload another. I know that it's unlikely and I completely understand, but I feel like you deserve to have at least someone give you the kudos for making this brilliant video. Cheers and hope all's well :)
@because-strudels
@because-strudels 5 жыл бұрын
That texture across the screen looks soft, I keep wanting to touch it
@fossil-bit8439
@fossil-bit8439 5 жыл бұрын
Great clean professional work!!! I would’ve thought this was a video from Voltar or Gametech-US. I can’t stand hot glue guys and their hack jobs.
@snesinfoguy
@snesinfoguy 5 жыл бұрын
Anything worth doing is worth doing well. My projects take waaay longer than they could, but I try to end up with something to be proud of. Thanks for the high praise!
@Vermilicious
@Vermilicious 5 жыл бұрын
I'm leaning towards the better-to-leave-it-original side, but you did a good job by the looks of it.
@bunkernuts6293
@bunkernuts6293 5 жыл бұрын
I'm doing that myself because I would SEVERELY fuck up my NES trying to do something as complex as this since my soldering skills aren't exactly the best. Games are still fun though so to me that makes up for the rather lacking video quality.
@rrrailroad6888
@rrrailroad6888 5 жыл бұрын
This video was made in 2014 and it has 419. What even
@vizuren
@vizuren 3 жыл бұрын
440 now
@darklordyianni4463
@darklordyianni4463 5 жыл бұрын
J,,,
@Tiger74147
@Tiger74147 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this was amazingly concise and educational, thank you SO MUCH! Even if you're only just looking for comprehensive info about cable types, the first 6 minutes are brilliant.
@snesinfoguy
@snesinfoguy 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kinds words! Made my day :)
@MarcAntoine01
@MarcAntoine01 5 жыл бұрын
Lol the braid is ugly af, you should try T7000 glue, it's like a mastic, usually used for phones and would've worked great!
@JFTL81
@JFTL81 5 жыл бұрын
Which sync did you use on the AV Multi out? CS# or V?
@snesinfoguy
@snesinfoguy 5 жыл бұрын
I used CSYNC off of pin 3 of the multiout connector. I've added an imgur link to the pinout diagram in the video description, and details on how to purchase the custom SCART cable I use are also in there.