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@Froggalishus
@Froggalishus 21 күн бұрын
amazing explanation video, how many springs are there in the ignition housing ?
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 21 күн бұрын
Glad it helped you. There is just one spring thats located at the bottom.
@Froggalishus
@Froggalishus 17 күн бұрын
@ i appreciate it very much! i know theres some type of grease thats supposed to help the friction by any chance you have any idea what type of grease would be okay to apply ?
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 17 күн бұрын
@@Froggalishus I would recommend white lithium grease as all the mechanism components are metal. If there were plastic components, then I would say silicone instead. Just double check the operating temp for the lubricant you chose, it should be rated to about -20 degrees fahrenheit
@psomlo
@psomlo 2 ай бұрын
What causes the diecast shaft between the lock cylinder and the ignition switch to advance as it rotates? Also, is the "spinning key" issue related to the "won't turn off" issue?
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 2 ай бұрын
The way the shaft and lock housing castings interface is similar to the way a cap „screws on” to a water bottle. This makes the shaft twist and insert into the ignition switch as you rotate your car key The problem described here causes the steering wheel lock to fail, it prevents from rotating the wheel. I would say it would be uncommon for a broken shaft to prevent the vehicle from being turned on/off. However a broken tumbler will cause issues turning the vehicle on/off and its primary failure symptom is a spinning key without engaging the rest of the lock housing mechanism Let us know what you find so it helps others out there! Best of luck
@jush471
@jush471 2 ай бұрын
i think the shaft in my lock housing is faulty, i am able to start my e36 when i have the key in, and turn the ignition switch with a screw driver(albeit the steering wheel is locked) but when i do turn the key, i noticed that the shaft will push outwards, but not turn, any advices would be greatly greatly appreciated.
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 2 ай бұрын
@@jush471 yes, sounds like your shaft broke in two pieces, the part on the key side (right) still rotates which make the left side get pushed out, but it will no longer turn as it’s broken in two pieces. You can drill out the spring from the bottom which will unlock the jaws and lock mechanism to rotate the steering wheel again, but you will have to continue to use a screw driver for the ignition switch. If this is your daily vehicle, I recommend replacing entire lock housing, or at least the shaft to keep all functionality in place
@jush471
@jush471 2 ай бұрын
@@Ciubaka thank you very very much for the quick reply, and yeah it was my daily until i went for college, in abt 4ish months of not being used the amount of things that started to deteriorate was insane(200k miles)
@jush471
@jush471 2 ай бұрын
@@Ciubaka will be drilling the spring out tomorrow, any recommendation of where i should drill before i do it, dont want to put a bunch of holes under the thing, but i guess i will replace the entire housing in the future
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 2 ай бұрын
@@jush471 its pretty difficult to describe, but its the flat, bottom portion of the lock housing, just about in the middle of it, the good thing is the spring is very thin and malleable, so as long as you drill big enough of a hole, you should have enough access to get a pick in there and fish it out. Check out a couple other "e36 drilling steering lock" videos to get a better idea and let us know how it went. Good luck!
@jush471
@jush471 2 ай бұрын
@@Ciubaka thank you, i got it done wasnt hard, only issue is car wont change out of park unless i lift the cover and manually take it out of park, brake lights work fine so i guess the car just doesnt know its on, oh well
@JittyMR2
@JittyMR2 4 ай бұрын
My steering wheel is locked and I can’t turn the key past the “off” position. I’m hoping it’s not the lock cylinder since BMW discontinued it. Im guessing it’s the shaft, gonna open it up today and see what’s wrong
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 4 ай бұрын
@@JittyMR2 could just be the tumbler but at least you’re now armed with the info. Do let us know what you find and best of luck
@JittyMR2
@JittyMR2 4 ай бұрын
For me, drilling out the bottom of the housing and removing the spring that locks the steering wheel in place fixed my issue. I can now move my steering wheel and turn my key to start the car. It’s a temporary fix for now, but I will replace my ignition lock housing in the future.
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 4 ай бұрын
@@JittyMR2 excellent, I’d recommend replacement as the locking mechanism “jaws” might still find a way to act up. Glad you’re back on the road
@Realstevejobs39
@Realstevejobs39 5 ай бұрын
Hi, i am looking to remove my steering lock to save any headache down the road, i have removed the assembly from the car, am i okay with just removing the top piece of the locking assembly?, i don't want to disassemble the whole part if i don't need to
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 5 ай бұрын
@@Realstevejobs39 I don’t like altering the existing design as it can introduce problems, in this case they can be fatal. But at your own risk, if you have already removed the top piece, you could additionally drill a hole at the bottom of the lock housing to remove the spring, this will drop the bottom locking piece. This way both top and bottom pieces are no longer functional, removing the steering lock entirely
@Z3ROpercentau
@Z3ROpercentau 3 ай бұрын
You could simply remove both the jaws mentioned and the shaft will rotate freeley. I would also take out the bottom springed piece to avoid it catching the steering shaft (although it would be unlikeley, anything is possible). This would be the lowest risk of steering locking up while driving imo.
@8290Wgu
@8290Wgu 7 ай бұрын
yes this scanner make a money, busted brand
@martinbishop5228
@martinbishop5228 7 ай бұрын
I have the 848 2014 and I think a stone damaged my lower radiator so eventually the water escaped and the bike overheated which caused it to shut down. Does this mean there is an electrical failsafe built in to the system
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I’m not aware of any electronic components able to shut down the engine, due to an overheating condition. Does the starter turn over the engine, or does the engine not spin? If that’s the case I would check fuses. If it spins but will not fire up, you might need to check the cylinder compression. Overheating can burn out the valves
@martinbishop5228
@martinbishop5228 7 ай бұрын
@@Ciubaka turns over OK I left it overnight to cool down. Just not firing up. Petrol pump is kicking in when I turn it over. I think it's a job for ducati garage to get the right diagnosis.
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 7 ай бұрын
@@martinbishop5228 Got it, hopefully it did not overheat too bad, my guess is it might be a valve sealing issue. Let us know what you find, let’s cross fingers it’s something silly
@martinbishop5228
@martinbishop5228 6 ай бұрын
@@Ciubaka you were spot on it was an easy fix. The radiator filler cap is under the key ignition plate. 4 small screws and there it is, how does that not come up on any forum or you tube video 🤔 omg I am so relieved I cannot even tell you in words 🥳🥳
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 6 ай бұрын
@@martinbishop5228 that’s excellent news! Glad it turned out to be a simple fix. I’m going to have to get a lower radiator protection guard too, to avoid future problems like this. Ride safe
@tomrielly8808
@tomrielly8808 9 ай бұрын
Did you replace it or is there a way you can leave this peice out? Did you buy a new complete unit from bmw?
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 9 ай бұрын
You can replace it, however I bought the entire assembly from BMW for mine, don’t forget the tamper proof boots, if that’s the route you go. Good luck
@swoggles100
@swoggles100 10 ай бұрын
What about when your steering lock doesn't engage?
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 10 ай бұрын
As in the steering wheel does not lock when the key is removed from the ignition? In this case, the cause will likely be the jaws being jammed into the open position, likely due to being broken as you see in the video. There will be no other way around it but to remove the ignition lock housing and replace it.
@swoggles100
@swoggles100 10 ай бұрын
@Ciubaka yes that's the problem. I am investigating and I don't have the anti theft bolts so someone has been here before. I can't get the antenna ring off currently so I'm stuck for now. Thanks for the information 👍
@ChrisGeary-r2b
@ChrisGeary-r2b Жыл бұрын
What if the lock doesn't turn at all? What would that be on an E39?
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka Жыл бұрын
If you have the correct key, try rotating the steering wheel a bit while turning the key. It’s possible the steering column is just locked and binding a bit. Otherwise, it would have to be something related to the tumbler or ignition lock housing internals, it sounds like you have the correct key, as I believe an incorrect key just keeps the tumbler spinning, I’d only try a spare key if you run out of options, good luck and keep us in the loop
@TheKevWig
@TheKevWig Жыл бұрын
Hi. Do you know yo get the shaft out? thanks
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka Жыл бұрын
I believe you have to remove the c-clip retaining ring shown a 1:02 in the video, it is located on the tumbler side. Good luck let us know how it went
@TheKevWig
@TheKevWig Жыл бұрын
@Ciubaka hiya. Yeah I managed to see that in the end. Got it out and the shaft is fine. The only conclusion I can make is that the key and or cylinder is the problem and I cant find one anywhere so I'm going to put a push button start in and that should fix it. thanks.
@brotmann6259
@brotmann6259 Жыл бұрын
Did you manage to set up inpa on a windows xp laptop? I tried it on win10 and with a serial to usb cable but was not successful :(
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka Жыл бұрын
I have yet to have time to set it up, the usb to serial adapter do not work, INPA with ADS requires a true serial port on the computer for communication to work
@brotmann6259
@brotmann6259 Жыл бұрын
I bought a winxp laptop in the meantime and that works fine now @@Ciubaka
@user-tx6ur8vp5x
@user-tx6ur8vp5x Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information 👍
@maesitos
@maesitos Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video it saved me XD In my particular case the key was stuck but before removing all the housing I started to hit it several times at the same time I giggled the key and I could finally turn the key to the 0 position and remove it. Apparently the jaws, as you call them, of my housing where just stuck and not broken.
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka Жыл бұрын
Excellent, glad it helped, thanks for sharing your experience for others
@hytecmediajay
@hytecmediajay 2 жыл бұрын
What if your steering wheel is locked but your ignition has no power doesn’t ding or anything when you put the key in but will spin but your whole car has power😭
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 5 ай бұрын
Not sure I understand your problem. If the tumbler spins, you either have the wrong key or a broken tumbler. Let us know what you find out
@dylankrahl941
@dylankrahl941 2 жыл бұрын
6:50 what you believe is a vacuum line. Do you know where the other end of the line goes??
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dylan, that particular line runs from the airbox, snakes around and runs over and beneath the oil cooler where it’s held by a metal clip. The funny thing is it’s capped at the end so it performs no function at all. My bike is a 2015 and my suspicion is that it’s meant to run to the charcoal canister, but since my bike doesn’t have it , it’s just capped off. Hope that helps
@dylankrahl941
@dylankrahl941 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ciubaka thank you. I was having trouble finding a couple places for vacuum lines. Turns out they all go to evap. Which i don't have so it was very confusing at first. Thanks again!!
@topperharlee718
@topperharlee718 2 жыл бұрын
This is very useful, thank you!
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad to hear you find it useful
@bobbymathiwathanan1832
@bobbymathiwathanan1832 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, did you use the same bolts to put the housing back or replaced them?
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 2 жыл бұрын
the bolts have to be replaced, you have to use new ones every time
@TMgarage540
@TMgarage540 3 жыл бұрын
9 years ago man! Sweet ride
@krzysb86
@krzysb86 3 жыл бұрын
Where can buy this broken pice? I have the same in my car. '97 e36 compact
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 3 жыл бұрын
The jaws from inside the lock housing are not sold separately, you will have to purchase the entire lock housing.
@toniobicicleta
@toniobicicleta 2 жыл бұрын
found it on ebay
@justacomment3305
@justacomment3305 3 жыл бұрын
Would the ignition rod be able to be slightly pushed in or pulled. I noticed when I try the Bobby pin it does rotate the rod but I can’t manage to get the tumbler out. I did disconnect the battery and tried putting the key in but as I rotate clockwise it only rotates as far as the on position. But counter clockwise it rotates all 360. Any tips? Thanks
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 3 жыл бұрын
The rod will not be able to be pulled or pushed from the ignition switch side as it requires rotating to move back and fourth, that’s what the tumbler does as you rotate the key. You will have to work patiently from the tumbler side. As long as you are able to get to roughly the accessory 2 on position with the key, that’s all that’s required. The rest is all done by feel using the bobby pin, 1 try and a couple different angles at the end of the bobby pins. 2. Ensure you are about 1 inch deep with the bobby pin inside the tumbler. 3 once you have the bobby pin in the correct place, rotating it clockwise should require to overcome slight tension. If the bobby pin rotates back and fourth, you are there, rotate bobby pin clockwise and pull at the key, tumbler will pop out, it is very unlikely the rod is preventing the tumbler from coming out.
@bigswerves
@bigswerves 3 жыл бұрын
Yes good explanation and this video has helped me, I would have enjoyed it more without hearing you say "Um" 753 times :)
@sdchaps
@sdchaps 4 жыл бұрын
I undid the shear bolts with a screw driver held by vice grips. Not easy. Lots of torque on them.
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 3 жыл бұрын
Nice going, it’s a tough area to work in as the shear bolts are located right under the dash in a tight spot!
@sdchaps
@sdchaps 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ciubaka Had my entire dash out which made access a little easier.
@sergiosalazar6806
@sergiosalazar6806 4 жыл бұрын
No se entiende donde se coloca la llave para que gire suba o baje el botón mal explicado profesor
@blanvillaingwenael7509
@blanvillaingwenael7509 4 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot
@Ciubaka
@Ciubaka 3 жыл бұрын
Glad this helped
@Gunham20
@Gunham20 8 жыл бұрын
W00t
@bman737
@bman737 12 жыл бұрын
MAH BABY, the car that is.