Why I Hate AI Art
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Why I Hate Modern Art
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@mandelbrotwurst
@mandelbrotwurst 3 сағат бұрын
*cough* kandinsky *cough*
@lirich0
@lirich0 20 сағат бұрын
Digital artists complaining about ai art is like insurance companies complaining about thieves. You stole our jobs first - a physical artist 😂😂😂
@MindsOfMany
@MindsOfMany 2 күн бұрын
You can poke a hole in a paint can and swing it around to get millions of dollars
@VladimirChibuckov
@VladimirChibuckov 2 күн бұрын
I dont care about artist. I just need good pictures, and Im not paying an artist if it can be done for free.
@user-ti3wk6zs1r
@user-ti3wk6zs1r 3 күн бұрын
It's done deliberately to promote degeneration.
@wha182
@wha182 2 күн бұрын
???????????
@loveblowsbad
@loveblowsbad 4 күн бұрын
You can't identify AI art. 😮 I'm sorry but when you find yourself saying "I really like this but it could be artificially generated." you've lost the ability to say you don't like it...
@Paul-nn9oj
@Paul-nn9oj 5 күн бұрын
Boomer & Gen X: Yeah, and because you should be outside, be home by nightfall 👴
@jppaul1261
@jppaul1261 6 күн бұрын
This is an extraordinarily naive screed. Where did you get the idea that art must rely on a set of rules? Or that art was “better” when it was under the purview of academies or institutions? Or that modern art is only enjoyed by the rich? Why do you feel modern art is hateable just because you think rich people spend too much money on it? All of your arguments are patently false. I fully understand why modern art styles may not be your preference. That's not uncommon. Many people dislike contemporary art, but your reasoning for hating it is uninformed and childish. For example, the very essence of human creativity has NEVER been tied to rules of any type in any endeavor, let alone art. The academies and institutions you feel gave traditional art relevance, importance and structure actually worked to muzzle artists and restrict them to elitist vanity as well as religious and political indoctrination. Art only became a creative cerebral act when artists were freed from those incumbrances. Before modernism, painting was largely just finely honed craftwork and copy art, kind of like paint-by-number in many cases. I.E., "Here’s the four or five types of content you can paint. Here’s the pre-approved palette. Here’s the short list of a few tried & true techniques you can employ. And don’t forget to cross the cupids’ legs." You call that cookie-cutter approach better art? As for value, to say that art is only enjoyed by the rich is silly. Nobody needs to “buy” art to admire it. And just because people spend far too much money on trophy pieces rather than spreading it around to more artists (the one point I agree with) doesn’t mean all modern art is bad. I see and often purchase excellent works of art for less than a thousand dollars a piece on a regular basis. It’s out there, and there’s tons of it. You did get one other thing right. It was a crappy video essay. Even a personal opinion needs to be supported to a reasonable and somewhat logical level while also be based on fact. I trust your art history teacher failed you miserably? But hey, I get it. You were forced to take one obligatory art credit to fulfill your high school diploma requirements. Rather than approach the course as a learning opportunity you chose to approach it with tired, cynical snark.
@devinegamingtv3427
@devinegamingtv3427 6 күн бұрын
I'm still sure white washing has a lot to do with "modern art" being so fucking expensive. None that I know enjoy looking at it, and I certainly don't either. I love looking at what I consider real art with details and meaning, even old sculptures from Roman times. Wtf are we making in modern time hahaha
@brandenmanuel2037
@brandenmanuel2037 9 күн бұрын
Art then- 🖼🎨🗿 Art now-🍌💩
@Beth4ny
@Beth4ny 10 күн бұрын
One thing ive seen is people claiming disabled people need ai for creative expression. I think thats absolutely ridiculous. I am not physically disabled, but i can see how this argument may be abelist. due to the assumption a disabled person would view ai art as their own because of their disability and not because of their actual feelings on the issue. they usualy say its an issue of motor skills, but that ignores how accesible art can be, collage, abstract, and i think a cool idea is that eye trackers could be used to allow some people the ability to create digital works. I hope ive expressed my thoughts clearly.
@Beth4ny
@Beth4ny 10 күн бұрын
Here are some disabled artists who made some great works. Yinka shonibare collaborates with an assistant to create. I'm going to do a bit more research on him. Judith Scott Paul Darke Chuck Close John Callahan.
@Beth4ny
@Beth4ny 10 күн бұрын
It seems like he directs teams of artists in the creative process, I haven't found his thoughts on ai but I think it's pretty clear how different asking a machine to make something and directing a group are
@Beth4ny
@Beth4ny 10 күн бұрын
To conclude. People who are disabled have been making art, they don't need a machine to imagine for them. Using the community to justify the use of an unethical product is not cool. Accessibility does not mean diminishing the accomplishments of others.
@Autisynth
@Autisynth 12 күн бұрын
man when will these guys realize that if they succeed, they will get an oversaturated, lower income version of the already famously underpaid artist’s market
@EletricistaEmBrasilia
@EletricistaEmBrasilia 12 күн бұрын
Money laundry.
@beatricezanoni5582
@beatricezanoni5582 13 күн бұрын
Ok so i was thinking of opening an insta account, but i guess im not doing that anymore lmao
@keiryeleison2933
@keiryeleison2933 13 күн бұрын
Modern artists are just another terminology for talentless people.
@normal_alien_gentleman
@normal_alien_gentleman 14 күн бұрын
I used to make some images using ai art like my pfp, and now I just make some weird shit in gmod and i call it art and it’s pretty good, the only thing I have to do in gmod is just find the perfect ragdoll, map, props and then turn it into art
@gideonocholi130
@gideonocholi130 15 күн бұрын
We hate modern art because it is pure Trash 🚮
@username.exenotfound2943
@username.exenotfound2943 15 күн бұрын
i think another problem is that we are calling it an AI when its far from a real ai its justa program doing a set task and thats it, an ai is far beyond that
@loshisad3889
@loshisad3889 18 күн бұрын
I agree with you on the prices, too high for the material used in it. However there's something I didn't like when you talked about the history of art: Abstract expressionism is a result of a change started with post - impressionist painters such as Cézanne, Van Gogh and Munch, who wanted to go beyond rules due to the fact that, firstly, camera already "took away" their job in representing and, secondly, because of the slow but rather big conclusion that the artist is the one who decides what is considered art. This led to development of the avant-garde movements, which resembled the overall different opinions and styles. Those pretty much influenced America, where artist managed to send their paintings, influencing the young continent (at that time). And I do say that it's the same for contemporary classical music, which started to develop in Paris, then arising in all of Europe in the same way (I'm a musician, I'd love to go further with thai topic, but it's not the time). Also, I don't get why this art gets called "meaningless", especially Rothko's, who wanted to use his paintings to express certain contrasted feelings by using different and contrasting colours put on the canvas using a similar technique to watercolour, mixing paint with lots of water, to create a sort of floating feeling to the colours in it. So, what Rothko did is creating its works by squeezing his brain really hard to put on the canvas what he wanted to achieve. This logic can be applied to other artists of this kind like Pollock, Fontana and Manzoni. Their art is dense of dense mental structure that can be loved essentially if you're really fond of that kind of art. So, as I said, I see your point about the prices, but not about the meaninglessness that it's getting labeled.
@MODDEDbyBACTERlA
@MODDEDbyBACTERlA 18 күн бұрын
This modern art is just patterns. Patterns are neat, but NOT impressive. They can be used as textures to make real art, but they should bot be celebrated on their own.
@Spectorobo27
@Spectorobo27 20 күн бұрын
“The legacy of modern art is tarnished.” My dumb self: roll roll roll roll roll roll
@idrinkmilk282
@idrinkmilk282 21 күн бұрын
"I don't like modern art, i don't like abstract art" okay, wonderful. Good job art is quite literally the perfect example of subjectivity.
@IzmGunner01
@IzmGunner01 21 күн бұрын
Compelling story with a fun narrative turned into dark and suspenseful terror. 10/10
@josesoldevilla3092
@josesoldevilla3092 22 күн бұрын
if Random or chaotic painting that didnt even try is art then they have bad taste what art is
@Ketchup-iu2dr
@Ketchup-iu2dr 22 күн бұрын
3:44 *angry monke noises*
@ErrorNotFound-tt2yx
@ErrorNotFound-tt2yx 23 күн бұрын
I have billions of slangs stacked upon my cavas of my renaissance heart. It has been decades since I've always been a classical art practitioner (Can't call myself an artist because, artists are Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Cavaggio.. you know what I mean), and I always find Big Zero- Lifeless- Abysmal soul into the whole f* "Morden Art" universe which ironically is considerably the meme content even to our ancestoral cave people in the name of art. These are F@rts! Not Arts! I give a big middle f!nger to the psychopaths who find the meaning of life, the metaphysics & so on diving into the acid vat of Morden Art! I don't care Man! Rather I die before looking at those shi*holes!!!
@iwonder7517
@iwonder7517 29 күн бұрын
Let's face it. Modern art is just money laundering
@KobesPilot
@KobesPilot Ай бұрын
modern laundering
@joseescobedo7899
@joseescobedo7899 Ай бұрын
That genre of art is why i hate art then the art snob have the audacity to talk shit of smaller online artists like cartoon art style or anime becuase it to same-y but then go crazy with shit like this?
@charodey266
@charodey266 Ай бұрын
I like Kandinsky. His paintings make me happy and satisfied. There is many bad paintings in the 20th century, but definetly not all of them.
@heavensadistancenotaplace
@heavensadistancenotaplace Ай бұрын
...you dont like modern art because people hijacked it for money laundering? hahahahaha... o-okay...?
@SylwiaGulik
@SylwiaGulik Ай бұрын
Modern art is terrible in my opinion because it has no effort the only thing i like is picasso because he put effort into his paintings
@Remake5182
@Remake5182 Ай бұрын
conrolversal opinion
@fungalbob
@fungalbob Ай бұрын
Not controversial at all. You can like pictures of dolphins jumping through sunset seas. It's all the same to me
@incognito3620
@incognito3620 Ай бұрын
Modern art is only for the rich because they need a way to hide their money. The only taste they have is in their mouth. It is elitist and they don’t even understand it. Probably convinced themselves the work is beautiful by their broker. They are told it is expensive and they purchase it. Unfortunately, there are artists willing to accommodate their illiteracy of real art and make it for them. It proliferates because art history is not taught in schools or lauded by the masses. Tech is the new darling. We are enthralled by AI art. Whatever is meaningless, devoid of emotional content or relatable content is worth billions to keep us numb to reality.
@33Donner77
@33Donner77 Ай бұрын
Modern and abstract art is about ideas rather than craft or skiill. But everyone has their own ideas, while few of us have the craft or skill.
@imnugget8085
@imnugget8085 Ай бұрын
Everything we use is stolen labor what you think your fans or ac at home was made and design by the comapny you bought it even the furst smartphone wasnt tentically the iphone it just made it more useful and cheap enough at the time to be available
@guillaumesandmayer7053
@guillaumesandmayer7053 Ай бұрын
Fun fact but perhaps not so funny - What did Jackson Pollock and Mark Rothko have in common? Chronic alcoholism and it killed them both. One in a car crash and the other that being Rothko was completely pickled in the end. Yeah nice..
@mastershan87
@mastershan87 Ай бұрын
Lol it's only artists that hate AI art.
@HERTZZBR
@HERTZZBR 15 күн бұрын
yeah when the group of people that now the most about art hate your ai "art" you should know that youre doing something wrong
@ideanada
@ideanada Ай бұрын
Yea, i paint so many abstracts i get cheap acrylic burns on me fingers. Its all about aesthetics. Form, proportions, light, etc., are not relevant for aesthetic appreciation to take place. That's the point of it.
@JacksonJDoyel
@JacksonJDoyel Ай бұрын
This is true but only for the famous-famous artists. Now days there are hundreds of thousands of modern artists doing that same style, some even better than Pollock! And selling them - though success of art sales is a whole other beast. These days anyone can be a great artist if they work towards it, walmart has all the materials you need to make these pieces for only a couple hundred bucks. It is accessible - but as always with any art form or human effort there will be the lucky people that get wealthy off of it.
@allorfh2495
@allorfh2495 Ай бұрын
Money laundering thats what this is. Or tax fraud, or both or something even more illegal
@dadatheartist-pt4th
@dadatheartist-pt4th Ай бұрын
I have a fun idea literally presenting a stick figure in an art presentation It would be a funny idea
@godlypumpkin8745
@godlypumpkin8745 Ай бұрын
Art is representation of feelings. Ai does not have feelings. Therefore there is not such thing as AI art.
@XtrminatR7
@XtrminatR7 Ай бұрын
Its not controversial btw
@royalsteven
@royalsteven Ай бұрын
Yes, the art coinnaseur world is ridiculous, people who are not artists buying overpriced paintings they can easily buy a poster or print cheaper. But modern art is original depending on the genre and artist. It depends on what artist you are into. I think you mostly have a problem with CONCEPTUAL and PERFORMANCE art. I agree, those genres are mostly pointless the Duchamps, Abramovic kind. But painters like André Masson, Picasso, Dali, Escher, Léger, Kandinsky are amazing and ground breaking.
@horroranddigtalfxs6985
@horroranddigtalfxs6985 Ай бұрын
really its taking from real artist many dont know this , hold on it sas you cant upload art you dont own but its taking like ness of real human fakes online of real people LOL its breaking the law again LOL , get this some time ago someone asked ai for a key for microsoft and ai came back with 50 new keys for them to use .........and get this ai had no idea it broke the law LOL , again type what you want thats not making artwork , we are talking years being drawing and 3d modeling and doing 3d artwork with your own hands being from your idea on paper to 3d modeling , ai is for the lazy
@xenochrist15
@xenochrist15 Ай бұрын
Look up the names mentioned in the article and check the early life sections. Modern art is cashing in on a certain tribe based money laundering scheme.
@twistedxenos9029
@twistedxenos9029 Ай бұрын
Get over it people, technology has taken jobs from humans since dawn of time and will continue to do so, we will not stop progress just because of that.
@stupid67
@stupid67 Ай бұрын
Modern Art is an much discussed topic since lots of people don‘t seem to like it, which I absolutely understand. The problem with modern Art nowadays is that those old paintings, which are being sold for atrocious prices, didn‘t have the chance to sell in the time they were painted. Modern Art did alot for the Art community, since people finally stopped to just draw realism or important people. Impressionism, Expressionism or Dadaism, all these art movements and those artist didn‘t really want to sell their paintings. It was just an art movement, against acadamism or the art rules that were normal back then. Abstract Art usually doesn‘t have meaning because those Artist drew what they felt, and it was different, something completely new, which can‘t be replicated. Thats why it‘s sold with such high prices. I understand if just an black canvas is sold for 100 mio dollars, but it was revolutionary back then and it can‘t be replicated. If someone did that nowadays no one would bat an eye, but considering that abstract art was so outrageous. I kinda get it. It‘s not most peoples cup of tea but if you know the history, it‘s kinda understandable.