Both capitalis and democracy are unsymaphetc and need to be address to something more of equlity 😢😢
@scwiggie16 күн бұрын
The alliance of socialists with liberal democrat party to this day and this argument is ironic. Had to leave the socialist movement due to this
@QuinnKramer-sh1gpАй бұрын
The only way I could do that was if you wanted me too I could come and pick it out and then I can go pick up it from your place or you could just pick me out of there or you could pick me out and I could just go pick up my truck or you can just come pick me out of my truck or you could come pick it out of the garage or you could come pick me out from work or you can pick me out and I’ll pick you out from work if that’s what you’re comfortable and you could come over to your place or you could pick me out of there or you can just pick me out and pick me out there if that is what works best I can do whatever is best to do it and I’ll pick me back out front. Ƒ¨Çk ¥ø¨
@QuinnKramer-sh1gpАй бұрын
∫ˆ†çH
@QuinnKramer-sh1gpАй бұрын
😮
@QuinnKramer-sh1gpАй бұрын
Wow
@erwinalvario8173 ай бұрын
Tanonh
@Read-Quran-2-learn5 ай бұрын
Free Palestine
@Read-Quran-2-learn5 ай бұрын
Still relevant today, now we got independent journalism on tiktok and youtube bearing the flag of journalism better than thr mass west media today
@melbanunez27335 ай бұрын
WTF Tony Blair? Lord Jesus! Bush and Blair and the Federalist Society and Netanyahu and Modi! And Maga! Lord!!!!
@hasaneurope46035 ай бұрын
💙💙🖤🖤💙💙🖤🖤
@splodgen9 ай бұрын
Miss you, mate. Rest in Power
@russellmiller44679 ай бұрын
Trump is a revoulutionist president of chice
@portvcale11 ай бұрын
Ok let me explain why eco socialism will never work 1. Socialism results in high taxes that are terrible for new business. So less opurtunities 2. Socialism always fails long-term. And that's a fact you can see it throughout history 3. It holds a complete lack of understanding about human utility. 4. Taxes render individual earning potential useless. 5. Socialists are largely in favor of international trade (globalization) which is terrible for the environment. 6. It can result in successful established businesses being nationalized and losing their immense power for technological and human development.
@cdub507211 ай бұрын
Idiots
@mazumdar2379 Жыл бұрын
ওকে
@space-time-somdeep Жыл бұрын
Only leftists do this kind of discussion.. nobody understands except who already studied something.. 🤣 I'm recently read Ranajit Guha, so nuance.. but simple language.. i think today's thinkers need to have better examples and simple language.. ❤
@sperrotta91 Жыл бұрын
8:30 Boots is just being adversarial for the sake of it here... spoken word and beat poetry to funk music obviously existed before the '80s (in general and the Bay Area) but as a self-aware movement/genre, hip-hop probably DID only reach the Bay Area around the early '80s...
@davidoran123 Жыл бұрын
if we only knew ten years ago what we know now. how much worse things could get and how many people would be taken in by the right wing fake news machine. and how much danger journalism is really in now.
@Blt-rr2lm Жыл бұрын
So every employee gets a vote on all important decisions. I would agree if everyone throws in the same amount of capital to start the business, works exactly as hard and intelligently as everyone else. Never going to happen. If you make decisions en masse you will get hamstrung in arguments, disagreements, personal agendas, and everything else that creates glacial movement. Even in small business this would be catastrophic. The moron keeps the intelligent people busy trying to explain why the moron is wrong. Tension occurs, tempers flair, and the business disintegrates. Could you please come up with a solution that isn’t so obviously flawed?
@plandemic8167 Жыл бұрын
Palestine. Isreal is not a real country. Look how beautiful Tel Aviv is and how charged and poor Palestine is. The IDF is murdering Palestinians (July 2023). Isreal took all the good land. Isreal is A WEF puppet state. Free Palestine and all the brave journalists there.
@ianweniger6620 Жыл бұрын
Whale, whale, whale... OK, comrade, when are you gonna start the Haymarket Stand-up night?
@claystanley2584 Жыл бұрын
There is no hope for the students being educated by these people
@tucsonairbrush3233 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@andofeverything Жыл бұрын
If you love your neighbor as yourself you would not be deliberately destabilizing Chicago with your destructive and ineffective socialist ideals that have been shown again and again to lead to misery. Fomenting class divisiveness and identity politcs(when class division doesn’t work) is endangering particularly the black brothers and sisters whom you are indoctrinating in these stupid and divisive ideas. Looting and pillaging and fomenting racism is no way to heal your community. Stop perpetuating the false narrative of racism. Black on black crime is the biggest injustice happening right in front of your eyes, and yet you continue to posit blame elsewhere. The fact that you pepper your speech with the teachings of Jesus shows how bankrupt and totally empty your socialism is. If you disagree with anything I am suggesting here, just look at Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and Los Angeles. All of these urban centers are being destroyed precisely because of the democrats on the board of supervisors who implement these far-left policies. Little did Allen Ginsberg see that the very communism that he loved would be the Fall of America that he prophesized.
@dapv144 Жыл бұрын
24:30 the mayor lays his socialists foundation. Socialism leads to communism leads to death en masse. Take from everyone and give to some. Redistribution of your stuff to others who don't understand its value. Not for me.
@anamikamishra610 Жыл бұрын
Excellent speech :)
@jackleipnitz427 Жыл бұрын
Dude New York is demo run on the the edge of socialism and your explaining how it’s failing…
@kpopgrrl Жыл бұрын
That's our mayor ❤
@nicholasduron9827 Жыл бұрын
This “debate” made Chibber look really bad imo
@plannetgr Жыл бұрын
1:19 wrong socialism is not only planning socialing ..... thats because there are many opinions about what is socialism .... even on marxism socialism is the first step for communist system but even on the first steps the power of decisions are on the social(Society) part of the system....
@player627 Жыл бұрын
FDR's 94% tax rate applied to income over $200,000 not $25,000. In implementing his plan, has Wolff ever explained how the employees would acquire the interests of the shareholders? What about the pensions of government employees' and teachers' unions?
@salmirza Жыл бұрын
Rest in power brother
@LeslieStrahan Жыл бұрын
Marxism has always proven itself to be tyrannical dogs**t.
@edsknife Жыл бұрын
Is the problem that the surveillance is unwarranted?
@daffyduck46742 жыл бұрын
The person I already agreed with won this debate. There I saved people the effort of commenting. I would say though that anyone coming to this with little knowledge of either argument would at least leave thinking they had a clue as to what Chibber was arguing.
@thomasbarker28885 ай бұрын
Good comment.
@sallythomas44032 жыл бұрын
How her mother given a birth to such a poisonous woman
@sallythomas44032 жыл бұрын
Such a lier, if she is in Muslim country they would have killed her straight away,how this lady can lie blindly
@SmelOdies2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of weird things about this video, but the laughing during Glenn’s speech has to be the weirdest. It sounds like a parody of a laugh track, a la Monty Python.
@scenFor1092 жыл бұрын
End Global Apartheid Close concentration camps End the global cult of sovereign bankers End militarily enforced Exclusive Economic Zones PRINT m o n o p o l y ON SOVEREIGN MONEY
@Tuatara19892 жыл бұрын
1. He says that downturns are not correlated to nature so they must be inherent in 'the system' (= capitalism). This just does not follow. It could be due to other factors, and it could very well be that downturns would happen under *any* economic system. 2. He says that someone who fires you, or a bank that forecloses on you, has 'screwed you'. Have they really? It's this absurd one-sided view, as if there aren't humans with real problems and responsibilities on the other side. - There's numerous valid reasons for an employer to fire an employee. Just one example, what if business if down, and there isn't enough work for all employees? If he keeps all of them, he incurs needlessly high costs, increasing the risk of bankruptcy and thereby risking all the other jobs, and risking it's entire function in society (i.e. when a local restaurant closes, people living there have less options, they lose too). - If a bank never forecloses, why would people pay their mortgages? Out of the kindness of their hearts? Their love for bankers? Yet if people don't pay, how does the bank raise funds to pay its own employees, and pay people back when they want to withdraw their savings? Those savings have effectively been stolen by the people taking a mortgage and not paying up. 3. He claims that all kinds of bad things are caused by capitalism. Low birth rates, mental illness, alcoholism, divorces, low marriage rates. But he presents no evidence. He doesn't even present any logical explanation as to how capitalism (and not other systems) would cause these. And that which can be asserted without evidence, I happily reject without evidence. 4. He doesn't like companies moving plants overseas. In that he is joined by Donald Trump, another buffoon who claims to understand economics but doesn't. Plants moving isn't good per se, but production should take place where it is most efficient, so the freedom to move is important. Why isn't production efficiency the same everywhere? Because it depends on local climate, local resources, the distance required to transport inputs, the distance required to transport outputs, factors of the local labor market, etc. If production is allowed to move to where it is most efficient, that benefits everyone. Why? Because it will cost less to produce the same amount of goods and services, i.e., goods and services will be cheaper for everyone. Now, understanding why protectionism is wrong-headed is a little more difficult, and requires an understanding of floating exchange rates. If you want to learn about that, I'd advise this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXXLkpqBrtt3mc0 This guy is just nuts. He praises a 100% tax rate at some point. He even laments the move away from public ownership and central planning, towards private ownership and free markets in China, while China has lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty doing exactly that. How you can call yourself an economist but take such profoundly dumb stances is baffling.
@3SIDEGOOF2 жыл бұрын
Unrelated but she is so fucking beautiful
@charleswofford62962 жыл бұрын
Chatterjee’s response to Chibber is so detailed, thorough, and rigorous that it did to Chibber what Chibber was hoping to do to Subaltern Studies. Chatterjee sounds scholarly even when he goes for the jugular (as in his remarks @58:25 about Chibber’s conception of capitalism being “so capacious as to bring a blush even to the pale cheeks of Adam Smith”). I was particularly impressed by a few of Chatterjee’s points. He says out that Chibber must assume that 20th century India shared the same time-space as 17th century England and 18th century France, otherwise he couldn’t engage in the kind of comparison he does. But that is an extremely reductive historiography. Chatterjee also challenges Chibber’s implicit claim to represent “the” Marxist position. Chatterjee references Marx himself against Chibber’s conception of capital. He also notes how Chibber fails to notice references made by Subaltern Studies scholars to Marx’s own works (for example, “On the Jewish Question.” @44:40). Rather than claim to be a Marxist for political clout, Chatterjee uses Marx’s own analysis to *show* why Chibber has not accomplished his goal. @54:52 Chatterjee nails Chibber on his “biopolitical” approach (“or is it zoo-politics since animals are also known to pursue and defend their need for physical well-being?”). Chatterjee notes that this conception of needs is independent of even mode of production, and leads to certain liberal doctrines, such as social contract theory. In her commentary, Barbara Weinstein says that she finds Vivek’s critiques largely “persuasive,” but then also notes that the orientalism charge Chibber makes is probably overwrought. Subaltern Studies is not part of the “discourse of colonial domination” that Said was talking about re: Orientalism. Chatterjee buries the charge in his final commentary, noting that it is not about people “without” history, but about people with “different histories.” Weinstein also points out how Chibber’s approach might have benefitted from more attention to gender and gender relations “as not irrelevant to discussions of class.” I do not think Weinstein meant it this way, but Chibber would probably find such a suggestion bordering on offensive. His ideology holds class as a fundamentally different kind of relation from gender, race, and other “identity” categories. Chibber sounds a bit arrogant in his opening statement, and then a bit resentful in his response to Chatterjee. He does not really have a response to much of what Chatterjee says, simply repeating, “you’ll have to read the book yourself and decide.” That’s basically throwing in the flag. It culminates in his endorsement of the biopolitical/zoological accusation that Chatterjee makes, as well as an endorsement of the social contract theory. But how does that square with drawing on the Marxist tradition? Social contract theory says society is best conceived as a kind of implicit contract among the individuals who constitute it. Marxism says that society is best conceived as a conflict among the classes who constitute it. Those are not the same theory. So Chibber begins by positioning himself as representing the Marxist position and ends with him proudly endorsing non-Marxist doctrines.
@tusharsingh45432 жыл бұрын
Great rhetorical replies, but none of them actually address Vivek's criticisms.
@charleswofford62962 жыл бұрын
@@tusharsingh4543 But Vivek's criticisms are hollow. Take, for instance, he charge of orientalism Vivek offers against Chatterjee. As Chatterjee points out, Orientalism is not merely an emphasis on difference. Orientalism denies the historical character of non-Western cultures by claiming they are static, mystical, and do not progress. They therefore are not "historical." If subaltern studies emphasizes *different* historical conditions than the one's Vivek uses Marxism to project onto all of humanity, that is not Orientalism. Subaltern studies does not deny the historical character of non-Western cultures. It just says they have a different character from those of the West. So Vivek's charge of Orientalism is off the mark. Chatterjee is right when he accuses Vivek of "materialist universalism run amok."
@daffyduck46742 жыл бұрын
Detailed and rigorous is certainly one way to describe it…
@daffyduck46742 жыл бұрын
@@tusharsingh4543 It’s the same game that’s alway played. ‘You didn’t understand us’ presented in the most obscurant way possible.
@tusharsingh45432 жыл бұрын
@@daffyduck4674 Chatterjee is talking about what Marx said as to why Vivek is wrong which is so far from the actual point of his critique. Debating for debate's sake isn't the point. He should address the clearly shaky foundations of postcolonial theory but refuses to do so.
@rachaelwubben-moy26082 жыл бұрын
You’re a legend sir. Posterity will crown you .
@sennecawise78992 жыл бұрын
Chibber is like the players at the end of mortal combat- "finish him"
@sukumardutta92602 жыл бұрын
Arundhuti Roy is renowned author and her profile output of writting on various topics ranging from climate change to war the perils of free market progress and defence of the poor it is great service for human welfare it is lovely for ever
@1tonystrada2 жыл бұрын
Am 56 year old work for more than 30 years in the elevator industry and i have so much trouble reading because of my dyslexia,never read anything,but whent i watch a video of eduardo galeano i purchase 2 books of him MIRRORS and LAS VENAS HABIERTAS.i read very slowly and enjoy every word in my first book,he motivated me to read for the firts time,i cry in private for what i been missing all my life.is never too late ,thank you senor eduardo galeano.
@007Spadge2 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of Dante, and how the Italians re-read and re-interpreted his works based on what was relevant at each time. Same is true for Marx. He is re-read often, and the interpretation is dependent on the political views of the one doing the interpreting. It's certainly an interesting seminar, and these ideas are worth exploring, what I really enjoyed are the historical sources and anecdotes. Nice crossovers between the two here. It's weird to think that Marxists and Republicans used to be on the same side. I'm currently working on Karl Marx and his view on the American Revolution, I'm tempted to work on the secession too however, because it's also a very interesting subject. I'll dive into historic material a little further on occasion and look for corroborations of this man's thesis. It's certainly an interesting one.
@kobo1322 жыл бұрын
Apartheid?! I live in a mixed street which is in a mixed neighborhood in the mixed city of Lod, where arab israelis live with jewish israelis. There are more mixed cities, like Ramla, Akko and Haifa. The arabs have the same rights as the jews, and there are no laws that harm their civil rights. In Israel we have arab judges, there is a CEO of a hospital who is an arab named Masad Barhom, there are arab doctors in Israel who treat my mother, there are arab orderlies in hospitals, athletes, and even an arab political party got in the government in the last elections, and there are even arabs who serve as soldiers in the IDF. And also, these arab israelis will disagree with you: 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3One5aplKueh68 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/raK5qXuprbSWoNk 3. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2OZqIp-h6qlb6M This arab woman named Lucy A'Harish even accepted the greatest honor in Israel and lit one of the torches in the ceremony of the 67th independence day. 4. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZymd4WCpctgq80
@timothyvilgiate81642 жыл бұрын
Re: Something said early on. Fragments, I think, can be more illuminating than manuscripts sometimes in trying to understand someone’s thinking. Glad to have found this presentation though
@sanjaiyadav20802 жыл бұрын
When I have seen the kashmir files movie. Now I really get to know about the agendas of this women Arundhati Roy that so called speakers of free speech and democratic India she is by far most hypocritical women of India who indulges and takes smiling photos with terrorist like Yasin Malik on the name of human rights. She is also funded by George Soros to convert people of India in christianity through the help of missionaries and various institutions. She is a kind of women which sells anti India agenda to the people living outside India to depict India as the most brutal human rights abuser in the world but in reality these are the people who take advantages on behalf of democracy and free speech to sell their agendas for money.....