The armour counters with the picture of the tank are on the reverse side of the armoured units.
@przemekbozek2 күн бұрын
Glad you're having fun, looks like you're getting a good emerging narrative out of your playthrough 😀
@przemekbozek2 күн бұрын
That's a lot of highlights 😁
@Jezza_One2 күн бұрын
@@przemekbozek indeed.
@przemekbozek2 күн бұрын
It does sound like the designer really threw in everything and a kitchen sink into this one.
@Jezza_One2 күн бұрын
@@przemekbozek We havent covered everything yet. The following are still to come. - Unit Breakdown/Reassembly - Guerilla War - Special Units - Political Negotiations - Alternate Histories - Variant Rules.
@przemekbozek2 күн бұрын
@Jezza_One Will be interesting to see if it's actually playable solo
@przemekbozek2 күн бұрын
Does sound like you have a massive undertaking on your hand with this one - you have regular+irregular warfare, air and naval component, economy, politics of civil war and all. Pity there are very few other titles on the subject that are not very light - I wish there was something in between this one and the light treatments available.
@kenx81764 күн бұрын
This is an incredibly interesting topic, with regular armies on both sides, a massive guerrilla movement going on at the same time, and all kinds of political differences handicapping the resistance, plus supply lines for vital foreign aid and who knows what else. A detailed treatment that really works would be amazing. From what I could find out about it though it sounded like it still needed another round or two of development. It’ll be interesting to get your thoughts (eventually) on whether it works with the rules as written.
@przemekbozek5 күн бұрын
Congrats on pushing through the rules 😁 Regarding factions, think this is similar to Invasions from Wisdom Owl - you'll have a large advantage if you organically understand relationships between the different actors in the game...
@bluekingzog15 күн бұрын
I've got this but it hasn't hit the table yet so really enjoying this series thank you .One minor comment you do know it's "factions" not "fRactions" ?
@Jezza_One5 күн бұрын
@@bluekingzog1 Oops I always thought it was fractions. 🤪
@przemekbozek6 күн бұрын
Must admit I normally like the approach of replaced counters with better units (when they have new designations - like in most East Front games), or, at higher level, when their DRM changes, like in Unconditional Surrender. But, considering how many different types / factions you have here, it would make sense to add extra counters to mark upgrades.
@przemekbozek6 күн бұрын
All within expected parameters 😀
@przemekbozek6 күн бұрын
How many air units are there compared to the rest of them? And naval units, for that matter?
@Jezza_One6 күн бұрын
Hardly any tbh for example there are 4 Japanese fleets.
@przemekbozek6 күн бұрын
@@Jezza_One Might be nice from completeness perspective, but adds to complexity unfortunately...
@przemekbozek7 күн бұрын
From a "completeness" point of view Naval Rules are always nice, especially if you like all things Naval (like I do). But I'm not convinced game on China 37-45 really needs dedicated naval rules to be added to an already large rulebook...
@Jezza_One7 күн бұрын
@@przemekbozek The rule book is 36 pages but its very small type. I would say it would be more like 50 pages if it was the usual font.
@brendanmarsh45237 күн бұрын
These videos are appreciated! I think I may get this game out of the box. I had it on ebay and I've now taken it down.
@Jezza_One7 күн бұрын
@@brendanmarsh4523 Might be worth waiting a few days to see how I get on actually playing the game. I have only done the movement for the first activation of the first turn atm.
@przemekbozek8 күн бұрын
Sounds like the main complexity in the game is really to manage different factions, learning HQs limitations / move types. In comparison, Combat sounds relatively straightforward.
@przemekbozek8 күн бұрын
That map is really pretty...
@przemekbozek8 күн бұрын
Agreed regarding no vids on this one, it's a problem with many "older" games that most of the latest titles don't have. Compass/Moe are putting a lot of efforts jnti their "how to plays", making games that much more accessible...
@przemekbozek8 күн бұрын
Quite a few special move types. How manageable it all is?
@Jezza_One8 күн бұрын
@@przemekbozek Dont know yet. I still havent done more than the movement for the first activation of the first turn.
@przemekbozek8 күн бұрын
@Jezza_One no worries, I'll watch along, just curious on how it all shapes together in your head, as it looks quite complex overall
@Jezza_One8 күн бұрын
@@przemekbozek If you think this is complicated try 'War of Resistance' part of the Europa series. That game was totally overwhelming.
@przemekbozek8 күн бұрын
@@Jezza_One I've seen Europa and gave it a wide pass😁 Think I can handle anything up to WiF level, but that one was entirely different matter...
@RoughSwordsmanWargamer8 күн бұрын
Just got my copy! 👍
@przemekbozek8 күн бұрын
Thanks, really enjoy those rules intro videos, especially on the games that don't get much internet coverage - gives me a good idea on how the games work and if it's something for me...
@Jezza_One8 күн бұрын
@@przemekbozek Glad you like them. They are really meant as a training exercise for me. Be warned I dont guarentee they are 100% accruate some people have complained about errors before.
@przemekbozek8 күн бұрын
@@Jezza_One Find a wargamer and you'll hear a complaint😆 It's fine, I'm really listening to them to get a better idea on what's in the game.
@WARdROBEPlaysWWII8 күн бұрын
Yes, these series of vids are super helpful.
@przemekbozek9 күн бұрын
Higher MP costs for overstack remind me of MMP's GCACW's rules...
@przemekbozek9 күн бұрын
Regarding political system I quite like the designer gives you the "historic" option, but ultimately for a game like this I'm not sure how likely I'd be to play the game again soon enough after playing first time to re-play it with full political swing...
@kenx81769 күн бұрын
I thought about buying this two or three times, but each time managed to talk myself out of it, despite all the promise it has.
@przemekbozek9 күн бұрын
Nice, another huge project as well 😁
@WARdROBEPlaysWWII9 күн бұрын
Don’t hear much about this one
@brendanmarsh452310 күн бұрын
Oh wow, I have that game on my shelf, forgot about that one. I will definitely be watching!
@przemekbozek14 күн бұрын
Thanks for an update, glad you're still having fun with the games 😀 I've heard the name before but gave it a pass - recently moving towards opposed games (even when playing solo), really can't be bothered learning separate rules for me and AI...
@rogue774415 күн бұрын
These videos have been super helpful. There’s not much out there on this game. I really appreciate your time and efforts in making these, thank you!
@Jezza_One15 күн бұрын
Glad you like them.
@jeffschulte221218 күн бұрын
In Germany, the Warsaw Pact forces must concentrate on a few high odds attacks each impulse. On turn one it is crucial to eliminate 3 or so NATO divisions and keep driving west in order to disrupt NATO’s ability to form a solid front. The Pact must also make effective use of the SOP, avoiding ZOCs in the first impulse unless attacking, and locking in as many NATO units to prevent their reserve movement.
@Irena_Posner24 күн бұрын
As the USSR, attacking Finland makes sense once the lower quality reinforcements arrive from Leningrad. But attacking Sweden makes no sense and is best avoided - Sweden's army is actually quite capable in this game and it will cause far more problems than the few extra hexes of frontline are worth, Wow, it is interesting that the Soviets overran Denmark so quickly. I do not think this happened in any one of my games. Certainly the attack with communist forces from Denmark into the Oslo fjord looks promising! The situation in the Balkans with Greece staying neutral certainly heped the Soviets. Still, even with that and with you sending IIRC all of the big strategic soviet reinforcements into Germany - does not seem like any soviet units will make it to the Rhein river. The Austrains will be taken out, especially since your soviets pushed decently far west of Munich. NATO will need to send the italians into the alpine passes, but these are very easy to block for either side. But I do wonder - if the Italians will end up being overextended once the Warsaw pact takes out both Austria and Yugoslavia? That could get dicey. Alternatively, you could send some soviet lower quality reinforcements at Yugoslavia, once that is gone you can turn them against Greece if the frotn around Constantinople becomes a total quagmire. The campaign 4 map game does indeed seem more fun! Just that I never had the table space for all of it. -------------------------------------------- Cute to see you mention Advanced Third Reich. Yeah, played that one some time ago too! We had an old boxed version from the early 90s.
@Jezza_One24 күн бұрын
@@Irena_Posner Unfortunately NATO contol of the North Sea makes a southern intervention from Denmark impossible except by airmobile units. Also the deadlock in the Balkans cant be broken by an invasion of Turkey via eastern Anatolia because WP units cant use the Turksh off board movement track. TBH I am probably going to put the game to one side and play something else.
@Irena_Posner23 күн бұрын
@@Jezza_One Thank you for your reply. So it seems that my "stalemate deadlock everywhere" experience proved to ring true even in the combined 4 map campaign? Sad. I can only suggest that if you liked the air war mechanic and would want to play something similar, but with a much more interestic strategic situation, then I would suggest the "Next war" series of games. Espcially "Next war: Poland" and "Next war: Vietnam".
@Jezza_One23 күн бұрын
@Irena_Posner They are on my list of games to play.
@przemekbozek27 күн бұрын
With WW3 being (fortunately) hypothetical it's really hard to know which way the battle would go - especially with so many fronts involved. Interesting how differently different games portray the conflict. Must admit I'm much more interested in way more unrealistic scenario of WW2 axis victory and assumed invasion of the American mainland... Saying that, recently my collection of WW3 wargames grew a bit, so I'm confident I'll give it a whirl in a near future.
@Nangwaya27 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@Jezza_One27 күн бұрын
@@Nangwaya I am glad you managed to get through this huge info dump. 😀
@Christopher-hl3cm28 күн бұрын
Your videos are good, but your playlists look like they are sorted by date (newest first). So if one plays an entire playlist, the videos are played in reverse order.
@Jezza_One28 күн бұрын
@@Christopher-hl3cm I have changed the sort and added the missing videos from this playlist. Hopefully I have fixed the other playlists as well.
@Christopher-hl3cm28 күн бұрын
@ It looks like they are sorted now. I checked several of them. You have good taste in games.
@Jezza_One28 күн бұрын
@@Christopher-hl3cm Thanks.
@Irena_Posner29 күн бұрын
I played this with my ex something like 2 years ago. The game looks interesting at first glance, but both the Balkan and German fronts quickly degenerated into a ww1 static stalemate in all of our playthroughs. The Artic front situation is really resolved in the first 4 turns, because NATO can block all the mountain passess and take out the Soviet airforce unless the soviets gain ground decisively early on. And if Sweden enters the war, then the most the USSR can win is a draw. All in all the middle east was the only front that we found to be interesting as a game, chiefly due to the political cards. Very well designed game mechanically (especially the air war), but unfortunately the strategic situation is just not one that we found interesting. Not enough meaningful decisions to be made and most fronts end up in a stalemate very quickly. Disclaimer: We had never played a "combined all fronts campaign" because of a lack of table space. We played each front as a separate game. So perhaps the game does become much more interesting if played on all maps at once with the USSR getting big choces as far as where to use their reinforcements..
@Jezza_One29 күн бұрын
@@Irena_Posner Actually its working out exactly as you are describing.
@Irena_Posner29 күн бұрын
@@Jezza_One That is a bit of a shame isn't it? The game mechanics are pretty good and the compass games really had very high production values. But the order of battle and the map just seem to insidiously conspire to turn it into a stalemate. Oh, if you are playing all fronts at the same time - where did the soviets decide to send their "strategic variable front reinforcements"? Especially their high quality air? Logiclaly, it would seem Germany should get all the extra reinforcements, but we found out that the Arctic is where the paratroopers and extra airforce can make the largest impact.
@Jezza_One29 күн бұрын
@@Irena_Posner I sent the reserve to Germany.
@Irena_Posner29 күн бұрын
@@Jezza_One Aww, unfortunately that is probably where it is the least helpful. At least the land units. The good quality fighter is useful anywhere of course.
@Jezza_One29 күн бұрын
@@Irena_Posner Denmark has collapsed so an invasion of Norway from the south is on the cards. Also the Turks have been driven out of eastern Anatolia so the Balkans could be unlocked from the east. Add to this Austria and Yugoslavia are going to enter the fray in the next two turns.
@mercurial71Ай бұрын
Wish I^d bought this instead of Red Strike. I just can't get a reply from Vuca Sims about my order. Really annoying.
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
I found Red Strike to be unplayable due to the ridiculously fiddly and complicated way they implemented the air war. It looks nice though.
@j.schauer3174Ай бұрын
I start learning the game and I hope you can help me. I am a little bit confused about Light Cavalary. LC can not make an Cavalry Charge (14.1). But can a LC make a normal attack, or attack an enemy LC? Does LC in a stack with other units count for odds? Thank you
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@@j.schauer3174 LC cant charge, they can make a normal attack and attack enemy LC, they also can stack with other units and count for odds. They can also break down into Vedettes (which is a distinct unit type) which have lots of restrictions such as max stacking three per hex, no attack or defence, cant charge, cant repulse, never count for odds, have zocs but dont effect enemy retreat and must retreat in cavalry retreat step (see rules section 16).
@j.schauer3174Ай бұрын
@@Jezza_One Thank you very much
@przemekbozekАй бұрын
Thanks for an update. I was looking at Flashpoint Golan recently but it feels too complicated, now you got me curious in maybe I can pick up a "WW3 in the Middle East" instead...
@ShaunerooАй бұрын
I've just finished playing the Persian Gulf scenario. Pact substantial victory was the result. Iran and most of the factions of the Iranian Army went to the Pact, along with Syria. Jordan stayed neutral and everything else went NATO. Pact used battlefield nukes towards the end.
@NangwayaАй бұрын
Thanks again for keep posting this! You mention that you are role playing a bit, and it makes me wonder how much sandbox opportunities are available for players? Can you go a bit of the rails, if you wanted to?
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@@Nangwaya I am roll playing the hidden knowledge elements. This is due to the fact the neurtral/political reaction chits are hidden from your opponent(which is me). The diplomacy cards in the pre-war game also required an element of role playing. You can escalate very quickly if you want. I was playing out a gradual escalation in the middle east. The only other thing I wiill role play is nukes because I belueve their use would be fatal to both sides.
@j.schauer3174Ай бұрын
Thank you for helping me to understand the rules better
@NangwayaАй бұрын
How does this game compare in complexity to the non-Grand Campaign Der Weltkrieg rules? I use blue tack for counters, but the originals - I can the original counter sheet, then make my own counters, which I blue tack. However, the blue tack and mounting maps on my walls, is entirely due to you 🙂
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@@Nangwaya Its about the same as non campaign Der Welkrieg rules and the standard rules in this game cover every thing in the campaign game. If you were just playing a scenario it would be easier the DW.
@NangwayaАй бұрын
@@Jezza_One Thanks, and I still have not forgotten to send you some more Der Weltkrieg counter sheets - I am just pokey,
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@Nangwaya I still have my Eastern Front game set up in the spare room.
@NangwayaАй бұрын
@@Jezza_One I will try to post them, this week, then.
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@Nangwaya Cant say when it will get back to the top table though. So many games to play. 🤔
@przemekbozekАй бұрын
Semi-ginger is really trying to setup a blocking position - despite the colours like like he's trying to support the NATO's defense... Hopefully all the tanks survived this time around?
@przemekbozekАй бұрын
I'd need to empty the living room to setup this one 🤣
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@@przemekbozek Go for it.
@NangwayaАй бұрын
Good timing for me that you are posting on this game, as I was considering purchasing it. Watching your videos, will help me decide. Thank you!
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@@Nangwaya I hope its a buy 😀
@rhysjohnson1224Ай бұрын
This is a game i really need to get on the table. Been on my shelf of shame for too long.
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@@rhysjohnson1224 Its also an easy set of rules to learn as monster games go that is.
@christopherfriend7402Ай бұрын
I don't have a cat so could never see me using blu-tac on the tabletop. But using it with wall-mounted charts is a dandy idea!
@KWHgamesАй бұрын
That wall mounting is amazing
@KWHgamesАй бұрын
Now, THAT is a War Room
@jimastro67Ай бұрын
It is apocalyptic. Iranian factions launching attacks. Eastern and Western powers clashing. And giant cats stomping over large territories of the Earth.
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@@jimastro67 Indeed. May be its prophetic as well.
@ezzlerАй бұрын
I have this edition too. But have never even opened it. The university kids returning have occupied every inch of table space and the entire summer house space, with student things.
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
Normandy has the problem of the invasion this is almost a seperate mini game. You will never get it right first time and its a large rules overhead. If I was recommending a GTS start it would be the 'No chance of surrender' or even 'The Devils Cauldron' or even 'Race For Bastogne'. For a CSS start I would recommend Montelimar because Guam also has an invasion system to master. I wouldnt recommend Fulda as a CSS start because it is a heavily modified system which evolves even further from its GTS roots.
@przemekbozekАй бұрын
Is it any easier for other CSS games? I have both Fulda and Guam for CSS and Normandy GTS game but yet to get around to either system in anger. Tempted to start with CSS Guam then jump onto Normandy, what do you think?
@przemekbozekАй бұрын
A cat can storm through the gap as well😁
@Jezza_OneАй бұрын
@@przemekbozek Invincible. She rolled over all those M1 A1 tanks as if they were made of cardboard.
@przemekbozekАй бұрын
@@Jezza_One 😆I know where the name "Doomsday" (of a game on a same subject) comes from. I'm assuming it features Catzilla as well...