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@pquirk99
@pquirk99 Ай бұрын
I wish I knew about this before I visited Bletchley Park last week! I'll have to pay another visit when next visiting England.
@sol3cito33
@sol3cito33 Ай бұрын
Excited about this one! But you really outdid yourself with the M-209, what a fantastic simulation! The only thing I'd love to see developed for the Hagelin is a random key generator to replace the static one that awaits the user when entering "Setup Modr". I am thinking of a "Generate Key" button that produces a different key sheet (also with the appropriate letter test at the bottom), with the option to save the generated sheet as a text file (for sharing or future use). I hope it's something achievable. 🙂
@sol3cito33
@sol3cito33 Ай бұрын
Awesome simulation! Would it be possible to add the option NOT to display the plaintext on the bottom of the screen, only the ciphertext, when typing?
@virtualcolossus
@virtualcolossus Ай бұрын
@@sol3cito33 yes, I'll see if I can sort out some options for this at the weekend. May I ask why you want this option?
@sol3cito33
@sol3cito33 Ай бұрын
@@virtualcolossus Thank you kindly! Making the plaintext visble ruins the purpose - the person standing behind my desk can see what I am typing. By making it possible to only display the ciphertext eliminates this weakness - and while it will be slightly more difficult to type (because of not having a visual reference), it is actually more realistic that way, and allows for greater security.
@virtualcolossus
@virtualcolossus Ай бұрын
@@sol3cito33 That's the hide plaintext option added for you (refresh your cache if you can't see it). You realise though that if you've got someone standing behind your desk who is watching you encipher, your security is already completely compromised (plain text visible or not!) as they can see what keys you're pressing! 😉
@sol3cito33
@sol3cito33 Ай бұрын
May I suggest something else. It may only be me not doing it the right way, but I am unable to return to a non-tutorial scenario once I launch the "Basic Tutorial" by clicking on its icon in the top left corner. The tutorial starts as normal but if I wish to exit the tutorial, I can only do so by reloading the entire page. Would it be possible to add an "EXIT" option that takes back to the non-tutorial environment where one can normally encrypt/decrypt? Again, it may already be an option, only me not finding it, in which case I apologise.
@sol3cito33
@sol3cito33 Ай бұрын
Also, I just noticed that it looks like the machine does not "forget" how many letters were typed/printed before a reset/zeroing, anf as a result, unless the last session ended with a full 5-letter group, the next time you type, the first group will consist of that many letters that are needed to "complete" the previous (incomplete) 5-letter group, rather than starting fresh, producing 5-letter groups. I hope this makes sense, I am sure you get what I mean.
@markdatko4832
@markdatko4832 2 ай бұрын
I knew Tony Sale (too long a tale for here) but didn't realise his videocasts were here. A big thank you for uploading.
@AlanCanon2222
@AlanCanon2222 4 ай бұрын
Epic. Saw it in March 2003 when it still needed wiring. I'm trying to thoroughly understand how Colossus works, so I'm deep into reading about thyratron rings and Siemens Type 2 Uniselectors. In particular on the Uniselector, I was wondering how they reset themselves, but they don't have too: they can revolve continuously, always in the same direction. There are have two sets of wipers 180 degrees apart, so when one leaves the half-ring of contacts on the high side, the other set of wipers is entering the half ring on the low side. You still have to arrange to detect what you consider the home setting, and stop there, but that's easily done. There were 51 available contacts (52 positions with one unused). How did they encode the starting positions of Psi 4 and Psi 5, with 53 and 59 positions respectively? Did they gang two Uniselectors in pairs, or use more contacts? Looking at the video, it took me a while to realize that the wheel start position indicators are in decimal (with a tens place) to accommodate the large position counts on the Lorenz wheels. The uniselectors only store the current starting wheel settings, right? They don't advance for every character read off the tape, or they'd be torn apart (they were rated for a maximum of 240 operations per second, nowhere near 5,000 characters per second)? So the actual key sequence is generated entirely electronically, just using the uniselectors for marching orders (start point)? I love how the whole thing syncs to the input tape speed, too, that was the "right way round" to do it after the disaster of the Heath Robinsons.
@marcelovictor3031
@marcelovictor3031 6 ай бұрын
Would you have any idea of ​​the price of a device like this?
@virtualcolossus
@virtualcolossus 6 ай бұрын
As an example, a good condition one including carrying case & instructions sold in auction Sept 2023 for £1,920 (www.bonhams.com/auction/28656/lot/180/a-hagelin-m-209-cipher-machine-american-1950s/). Not within my budget so a good reason as any to build a virtual one!
@marcelovictor3031
@marcelovictor3031 6 ай бұрын
@@virtualcolossus thanks bro!
@steamrangercomputing
@steamrangercomputing 7 ай бұрын
Cool
@Novice-bz3ri
@Novice-bz3ri 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting. You can see the wheel stuttering and the different rate at which the different wheels rotate, depending on how many connections each wheel has. All the explanations are suddenly visible in real time.
@Jean-PierreVincent-g7p
@Jean-PierreVincent-g7p 7 ай бұрын
Hi, very interresting video. I am chasing such kind of m-209 description since long time.
@НиколайГорохов-у6г
@НиколайГорохов-у6г 7 ай бұрын
Более подробно бы , я до сих пор не понимаю как она работает , но крайне интересно
@virtualcolossus
@virtualcolossus 7 ай бұрын
Take a look at this video by Dr James Grime which does a good job of explaining the basics of how it works: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXPWl4qJhrunj6M . Then, see it working and try it out for yourself with my virtual simulation of the Lorenz SZ42 at lorenz.virtualcolossus.co.uk/
@christopherlawley1842
@christopherlawley1842 Жыл бұрын
That Tommy Flowers, he was a clever cove!
@ХуанМатус-х8ю
@ХуанМатус-х8ю Жыл бұрын
why no likes and comments
@virtualcolossus
@virtualcolossus Жыл бұрын
Thank you for yours!
@robinbaker9708
@robinbaker9708 Жыл бұрын
Can I be a pedant and say Eliot 803 ALGOL differed from 'real ' ALGOL 60 in some ways, the illustration shows the use of ' as the end of line delimiter rather then ; just one thing I remember from working on an 803 in Bletchley Park 'D' block back in the 1970's. I wonder what happened to that one ?
@PeterOGB
@PeterOGB Жыл бұрын
From "Report on the Algorithmic Language ALGOL 60" : "As with the preliminary ALGOL report, three different levels of language are recognized, namely a Reference Language, a Publication Language and several Hardware Representation." So 803 ALGOL **IS** real ALGOL 60 as it is one of the "several Hardware Representations". As to there being an 803 in BP D block, do you have any more details because that is the first time I've heard of there being one installed there. And if you are going to be a pedant, you really ought to check that you've spelt Elliott correctly !
@mierzhen
@mierzhen 2 жыл бұрын
Do the automated transmissions still work? Radio hasn't received anything even when waiting at the times, or is there a cutoff period?
@virtualcolossus
@virtualcolossus 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Knossos - you're absolutely right, the Enigma automated transmission server was temporarily offline. It's been resolved and should now be sending again. If you try again, it should be all working as documented - apologies if you sat waiting for a while for a message!
@mierzhen
@mierzhen 2 жыл бұрын
​@@virtualcolossus And there may be an issue with how the M4 messages are encoded? Tried decrypting but each time the deciphered message is incorrect. Double checked the kenngruppen, plugboard settings, double checked inner ring settings, used the correct grundstelung to find the encrypted key, but no luck. M3 messages (random) are working at least
@Huntmare
@Huntmare 3 жыл бұрын
really cool !! and so interesting ! love it !
@user-pi7gj5vp3b
@user-pi7gj5vp3b 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJS6oIx-mbOqeLM
@user-pi7gj5vp3b
@user-pi7gj5vp3b 3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to create a more accurate cipher machine , do you have any scamatics or photos I can see ?
@ericlees7518
@ericlees7518 3 жыл бұрын
so it was all digitlal zeros and ones eh! mmmmmmmmmmm 00111 01110 11000 10100 mmmmmmm
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
This machine is based on the Vernam Cipher machine patented in the USA in 1919. But whereas that apparatus used relay logic to accomplish it XOR logic based encryption, this Lorenz machine used all mechanical logic based on rotating disks
@paulhaworth5178
@paulhaworth5178 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work!
@virtualcolossus
@virtualcolossus 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it!
@veehope2702
@veehope2702 3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting, can't wait to try it out.
@gongfei
@gongfei 3 жыл бұрын
amazing!
@carbo73
@carbo73 3 жыл бұрын
a marvel. I saw this machine in Bletchley back in 2014. Not working, of course.
@2adamast
@2adamast 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@paulklee5790
@paulklee5790 3 жыл бұрын
Quite astonishing...
@mark7denzer
@mark7denzer 4 жыл бұрын
I am John Tiltman's grandchild (one of five), living in Hawaii. Thanks for the video.
@virtualcolossus
@virtualcolossus 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark! Thanks for commenting - I'm so pleased to hear from you. What a fantastic legacy - you must be very very proud of your Grandfather. What an amazing chap - I've read his name so many times especially regarding his initial break into the Lorenz ZMUG messages, but also with so many other areas of code breaking at Bletchley Park. Someone who I really take inspiration from. Have you seen my new Virtual Colossus 3D which I just released today? (virtualcolossus.co.uk) - it allows you to learn to break a Tunny cipher just like they did at Bletchley with the first electronic digital computer - a result of your Grandfather's amazing work!
@mark7denzer
@mark7denzer 4 жыл бұрын
@@virtualcolossus I will take a look. But I might have missed that particular mathematical gene which only some of us have. But I guarantee I surf and sail better than those guys. But oddly, when Granddaddy passed through Hawaii in the 20's, he apparently got a surfing lesson from Duke Kahanamoku, so who knows......
@luisluiscunha
@luisluiscunha 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the demonstration. This is of great historical and technical value.
@harryrees32
@harryrees32 4 жыл бұрын
Totally useless video without a description !
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 3 жыл бұрын
It is machine artistry without any messages! You know how propagandistic the Brits are.
@leonardopoli7714
@leonardopoli7714 2 жыл бұрын
lorenz is love, lorenz is life
@acgiantdad6474
@acgiantdad6474 4 жыл бұрын
Oh you mad bastards, I love it, if y'all are still working what comes next, are you going to try and tackle something like Purple or SIGABA?
@andrebrs1381
@andrebrs1381 5 жыл бұрын
Precision German engineering! <3
@CaptainCalculus
@CaptainCalculus 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for uploading, my great uncle was one of the people who built Colossus
@MartinGillow
@MartinGillow 6 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome, I was so excited to find this rare footage of the Lorenz actually running I had to share. I hope you have tried my Colossus and Lorenz simulators on my website too. Do you mind me asking the name of your great uncle?
@surplus2720
@surplus2720 5 жыл бұрын
Coool
@Chris47368
@Chris47368 4 жыл бұрын
You must have a really cool uncle then 😀