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@thekrustykrabrestaurant
@thekrustykrabrestaurant 4 ай бұрын
It's safe! Nice!
@technomad9071
@technomad9071 6 ай бұрын
"just be a minute" yeah let me do that in the car lane see how it goes
@technomad9071
@technomad9071 6 ай бұрын
cars will never share the road
@adinrichter6034
@adinrichter6034 6 ай бұрын
I wish that Portland would implement more protected bike lanes. For a city known for its biking we are horribly behind. Our "neighborhood greenway" system, which just puts sharrows on residential streets is insulting.
@technomad9071
@technomad9071 6 ай бұрын
great video! roads are for everyone!
@bewatch2575
@bewatch2575 6 ай бұрын
This is the real video all about cycle lane and for cycle lovers 🥹🚲😎
@jusjetz
@jusjetz 6 ай бұрын
What about the emergency vehicles such as fire trucks and ambulance accessing hydrants across the barrier?
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 6 ай бұрын
Hydrant access is rarely affected any more than it is with parallel parking. If anything, access is greatly improved: A protected bike lane improves visibility of the hydrant for first responders versus a line of parked automobiles (with the inevitable one car illegally parked in front of the hydrant, no less). This benefit also extends to EMS operations, as an extra curb and a clear lane are much easier to navigate a gurney over than through a line of bumper-to-bumper parking. Solid Jersey barriers are the only implementation where the configuration requires particular consideration of hydrant access given their height and lack of access. They usually don't pose EMS access issues as Jersey barriers aren't usually used where street-side business or residential access is also required (if anything, they'll reduce the need for EMS over the same area with an unprotected bike lane, where a preventable bike-vs-car crash will inevitably happen) Otherwise, the majority of protected lane dividers maintain clear human mobility across their curbs, flexposts, or planters - including the necessary room to run fire hoses unobstructed or rush EMS across. Additionally, designs with lower barriers are often designed to allow emergency vehicles to drive over for access _if_ needed, though this is not always ideal if the average SUV or delivery driver can follow suit. For the most part, if it has been considered not an obstruction to have a line of parallel parked vehicles in a given location, the access will only be improved if that same area is repurposed as a protected bike lane (usually as a bi-directional lane to maintain parking access on the opposite side of the street, if parking access remains a necessity for the area in question).
@user-kk2xv4dt6h
@user-kk2xv4dt6h 8 ай бұрын
Excellent
@HigherQualityUploads
@HigherQualityUploads 8 ай бұрын
My city just randomly implements bike infrastructure anywhere. There are no connections, no cohesion. There is a bike turn box in the intersection of two 8 lane roads that have no bike lanes. I presume they do it for tax incentives and to say "we have bike infrastructure but nobody uses it." 😞
@kookamunga2458
@kookamunga2458 7 ай бұрын
My city does the same thing . They do a half-assed job because some city officials want the bike lanes to fail. If they were connected then more cyclists would use them .
@Bosun25
@Bosun25 8 ай бұрын
Protected wide cycle lanes infrastructure with M-way style crash barriers to stop motorists from killing vulnerable road users are urgently required worldwide
@sagarkhushalraozade
@sagarkhushalraozade 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the very useful video :)
@daviddavidson6278
@daviddavidson6278 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@neptunes_oeuvre
@neptunes_oeuvre 11 ай бұрын
This channel is an amazing resource !! thank you for these very informative videos.
@Nate-ho9tg
@Nate-ho9tg Жыл бұрын
Sure wish we had protected lanes in Columbus Ohio
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter Жыл бұрын
Reach out to the Safe Routes to School folks in Columbus. That might be a good way to start a discussion about protected bike lanes.
@Nate-ho9tg
@Nate-ho9tg Жыл бұрын
@@Kidzneurosciencecenter Thanks so much I'll do that.
@trinidadinternational
@trinidadinternational Жыл бұрын
I don't want to ever depend on a car. Living by a Metrorail Station/the Underline bike path makes it easier to get to where I need to go by bike or the train. Great video!
@alainterieur4837
@alainterieur4837 Жыл бұрын
5:20 Some places in Switzerland have found a workaround to reduce the space this configuration takes. They simply painted a turn box directly on the sidewalk next to the crosswalk and lowered the curb to allow cyclists to get there. It works pretty well for minor intersections where there are not that many cyclists. Though sadly my country still hasn't figured out how to make proper protected intersections. What they do instead is sandwich a bike lane between the forward and right turn lanes. With bike boxes and turn boxes for the most forward-thinking cities. In some other places, they put cyclists on the sidewalk and treat them as pedestrians, though it causes conflict with pedestrians (and for some weird reason cyclists still have to yield to cars while pedestrians do not, go figure). Every time cycling advocates ask for protected intersections, the authorities argue that "there's not enough space and it's too expensive", but then they end up building 5-lanes wide roads that definitely do not need to be that wide and somehow there's enough space and money for that
@dickiewongtk
@dickiewongtk Жыл бұрын
Because car drivers pay additional taxes through their gas, registration, toll fees etc.
@DominiqueB
@DominiqueB Жыл бұрын
@@dickiewongtk False argument -- a) the huge majority of bike riders in so-called developed countries also own some form of motorized vehicle and do pay those fees anyhow, and b) in most such countries i've heard of, there is no such thing as a "road tax" paid solely by car etc. owners, but infrastructure is funded for through general city or state taxes, paid by everyone, regardless of their preferred mode of transportation.
@Hensepens64
@Hensepens64 Жыл бұрын
If this called the "Dutch Disease" I would be proud. A lot of examples already exist or are common practice the Netherlands. It's wonderful to see other countries using it on their own way to increase safety for bicycles and pedestrians. 👍
@cherriberri8373
@cherriberri8373 Жыл бұрын
Cant believe you called two lanes for bikes in between car traffic without any protection or meaningful buffering "forward thinking". Absolute bullshit, that would be barely a step up from just having a normal road but even putting a crossing instead would be more safe and comfortable.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter Жыл бұрын
The Portland example at Stark Street is one of the earliest examples of a center-running left turn lane, and it exists in a neighborhood with pre-existing traffic calming. The lack of protection on that design is the reason that we immediately followed it with the _protected_ example from Santa Monica. Keep in mind that the video also established that we're discussing both the "pluses and minuses" of all designs. Since we already established that a lack of protection isn't safe (e.g., sharrows, unprotected green bike lanes, advisory lanes), we expect the contrast between the Portland center-running lane and the much safer Santa Monica lane to be clear for those who have remained this far throughout the video. If someone has a visceral reaction to the lack of protection, all the better - it drives home why protection is an irrevocable requirement for safe, inclusive bike networks.
@wturner777
@wturner777 Жыл бұрын
Every city and town in North America needs to take some lessons from The Netherlands. I've heard they've been doing this for years, and better.
@cordingdesert9566
@cordingdesert9566 Жыл бұрын
This should be mandatory to learn when getting your driver's license. Very helpful
@cxvelasco1
@cxvelasco1 Жыл бұрын
OMG this video is amazing! Best bike lane explanation I've seen.
@JAKempelly
@JAKempelly Жыл бұрын
This was so well done
@InternetKilledTV21
@InternetKilledTV21 Жыл бұрын
I think one major point about the color of European bike lanes is that there are quite a few that aren't painted, but have dye mixed into the asphalt. This way it's not a slippery mess even with the rain, and the color lasts way longer! Also lol re: space considerations.
@emiel1976ep
@emiel1976ep Жыл бұрын
Wow, it is if I am back in the 70's. Those tips are so outdated and dangerous. Also the lack of knowledge is incredible. Cyclists will almost never go in a nice straight line. This can be, because of speed or obstacles like holes in the road, that are for cars no problem. Claiming the lane is dangerous, especially in a country where people with a driving license, aren't learned how to behave as they see a cyclist.
@emiel1976ep
@emiel1976ep Жыл бұрын
@@MatthewStinar these tips where proven to be wrong. That is why the Netherlands changed everything and added a good infrastructure.
@applewater5436
@applewater5436 Жыл бұрын
@@emiel1976ep yeah... Let's get on that infrastructure stuff. Until it's in place though these are the best tips for safe cycling on the road
@emiel1976ep
@emiel1976ep Жыл бұрын
@@applewater5436 no they aren't. These tips increase accidents. These bad tips that where made up many years ago and tested. They failed and therefor abandoned even before there was a cycling infrastructure in the Netherlands! Now the USA thinks that that tgey are great and uses them. Not because they looked ad it, but because they never check if something works. As there is a traffic jam, they just ad an other car lane. That doesn't solve the problem and in most cases makes it worse, but that is how they think it works. This is mainly thanks to how the USA and works. Say to the people that there comes an extra lane and the people are happy. Say that they loose a lane and they cry that they can't get anywhere with their car. Hive them failed tips and they are believing it and happy! There is a reason why officially, the USA is on a list of countries where the driving license isn't approved to ride in most European countries. The only reason that they are allowed, is for economic reasons and noting else. From infrastructure till driving education, it is one of the worst in the world. The country is made for cars and even that isn't done right. Now they come with old failed bicycle tips that are proven to be wrong.
@applewater5436
@applewater5436 Жыл бұрын
@@emiel1976ep I mean I don't disagree with you on the infrastructure point. That being said as somebody who cycles in the US with very little bike infrastructure I know taking the lane has definitely improved my safety in a hostile environment. Until America pulls its collective head out of its butt, and implements some practical bike infrastructure. these are the best practices to stay safe where there is not bike infrastructure
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 10 ай бұрын
@@applewater5436 If we keep accepting best practices for inherently dangerous streets, we'll never get safe infrastructure in the first place. Case in point: This video needs an updated version to emphasize the inherent risks and inequities of vehicular cycling, but support for redoing this existing video has been limited. As with real infrastructure, rather than making an effort to fix the current issues (*cough* building protected bike lanes *cough*), leaving the status quo in place becomes "good enough" and languishes for many more years than it should. Thankfully, the following sequel was green-lit not long ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHTIhJiLd9KLrac -KK
@telocity
@telocity Жыл бұрын
I love how every location on earth has to do a study and come up with their own "New Designs!' When countries like Holland have already done all the leg work, why re-discover the wheel? Because that's how government rolls.
@telocity
@telocity Жыл бұрын
@@Allan_son True, I was thinking more of the light systems they use in Holland that help keep things moving and safe. Here is a good vid about snow cycling. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5nbXmVsfMt2eLc
@Murillos1
@Murillos1 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Illustrations on this channel really helps to pave our way forward towards micromobility🙌
@johnvanderschee6345
@johnvanderschee6345 Жыл бұрын
I think the largest problem in countries that don't have a bicycle culture like where I live (The Netherlands|) is that bicyclists are a minority. In the Netherlands almost everyone uses a bike frequently and there are millions of bicyclists on the road every day. So almost everyone on the road are used to look out for them when turning or opening their doors when leaving their cars. They also know by experience how fragile they are by riding bikes themselves which gets you in a certain mindset in a car which leads to safer roads.
@PeterSdrolias
@PeterSdrolias Жыл бұрын
Just use your country's designs and all of our issues would be solved!
@kentreed2011
@kentreed2011 Жыл бұрын
Even in a city with little to no bicyclists you still have to watch out for motorcyclists when opening the car's doors, it's common sense, people don't learn until someone crashes on their door.
@bui3415
@bui3415 Жыл бұрын
Of course, density, general walkability, alternative infrastructure and transportation development would encourage growth for biking. Painting lanes or installing bike roads alone definitely won't fix the issue over night, other city planning and housing design and layouts should also be considered and made. Assuming the people in those places want that.
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 Жыл бұрын
They want people to ditch their cars for bikes, especially now that e bikes are so prevalent, yet little is done to make it safer or more convenient for cyclists.
@telocity
@telocity Жыл бұрын
Did you miss the end of the video? He said USA was catching up! So if your patient, in 50-100yrs we will have some safe riding zones.
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 Жыл бұрын
@@telocity Great, something to look forward to when I reach 120.
@bui3415
@bui3415 Жыл бұрын
Technically took those European countries like 20-30 years to change from car oriented to the current state. Some began redevelopment recent as the 90s and mid-2000's and already gained a positive reputation after a decade or two of development. But yeah it's time consuming. Until then, it's something you want to continue to push for them to change, move else where, or stick with what it is if that's what you want.
@emiel1976ep
@emiel1976ep Жыл бұрын
This shows that they still don't understand it. Those turn boxes are a joke. Same with turn bays. Puting the bike lanes in the middle makes it not better. All look good, but have a lot of flaws. They also forget, that as it gets better, more people will ride a bike and that those solutions will not work. They don't know when and how to implement the right solution. The biggest mistake they make, is focusing only on infrastructure. They forget education and changing traffic rules. Also relocating traffic lights is a big thing.
@_kikyu
@_kikyu Жыл бұрын
while your arguements have merit, and are accurate, the reason why this video here exists is to inform people about the purpose of the bike infrastructure designs in terms of cycling, infrastructure is the most important part, not people trying to ram into cyclists also, this video is very transparent of the flaws in these designs those turn bays, while you may call stupid, but the netherlands with the best bike infrastructure in the world uses designs similar to it in bicycle crossing. may i ask why you think these designs are stupid? becuase if a stupid design to you is safe, protected, high visibility, and wide bike lanes accesible for children and the elderly, i would like you present your design for what you call the best bike infrastructure
@makelgrax
@makelgrax Жыл бұрын
Your main issues seem to stem from a worry regarding the future-proofing of these types of transportation insfraestructure upon their growth, coupled with how recent these changes are, and their (relative) understudying in the US, which causes wrong-in-hindsight decisions like the lanes in the middle of streets, roads, and stroads. These are extremely valid concerns, that "luckily" are actively being worked on: Your fear of induced demand is more prevalent with cars as they have the lowest throughput capacity (at best having a quarter of equivalent-sized bike/bus paths), so "Road Diets", partially done via putting bike paths, are one of the best current solutions and enablers for increasing and sustaining population density with low noise and air pollutions. Meanwhile, as more modern projects are completed, data is collected on which tipe of transportation suits each case best, hopefully reducing blunders like the one you mentioned. Your other issues are regarding education and traffic rules which... I don't really get what you mean by _forgetting_ them? Schools _should_ teach the bare basics of transportation instead of leaving that duty to parents, but that's a whole 'nother bucket of problems, and this very video is an amazing example of educative media so it's weird to complain about it here. And on the point about lawmaking, many political groups are actively trying to change the laws there are on transportation and city developing that force car ridership and caused many of the sprawling and transportation issues in the first place.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter Жыл бұрын
That's exactly the point: All the overcomplicated turn box designs are clearly flawed, while the protected intersection and Dutch Roundabout that follow are such obviously safe - and elegantly simple - solutions that it seems ridiculous not to use them instead.
@RealConstructor
@RealConstructor Жыл бұрын
@@Kidzneurosciencecenter Good to see a positive change in America for bike infrastructure. Such a difference since I’ve been over there. Only one remark, the singular bike box at 4:43 gives me a very unheimisch feeling, not safe at all. I wouldn’t use that one, too dangerous, even in Dutch traffic, let alone US traffic with much bigger cars and trucks. No one will see you waiting in that box, you’re a sitting duck in there.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter Ай бұрын
@@RealConstructor Agreed. Most bike box locations could just as well be served by a proper protected intersection (or even protection on a single corner to save space).
@kookamunga2458
@kookamunga2458 Жыл бұрын
The separate protected bike lanes are also good for car drivers . More people cycling equals less people driving therefore more room for cars . The other is drivers won't have to worry as much about running cyclists over now that each has a lane plus bicycles do not do any damage to the asphalt or concrete ever and never ever will .
@Soprie
@Soprie 2 жыл бұрын
And not a single victim blaming line about helmets or hi-vis!!
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
Perish the thought.
@goldeagle1824
@goldeagle1824 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video, loved the inclusion of the cities where the given examples are implemented!
@shakethatemulsifier8914
@shakethatemulsifier8914 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent video
@andreasbartel3449
@andreasbartel3449 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, next video: How to protect pedestrians against cyclists
@Maylolkoi
@Maylolkoi 2 жыл бұрын
by having bike lanes ?
@woutervanr
@woutervanr 2 жыл бұрын
Lets first protect them from drivers, those are the ones killing thousands of them a year. Cyclists...not so much killing weirdly.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
Explained at 2:18. Build protected bike lanes, and riders looking for a place away from drivers will no longer be on the sidewalk. _It's that simple._ If you have three modes of transportation that have distinctly different speeds, you need three distinct spaces for everyone to move at their given speeds.
@rock2946
@rock2946 Жыл бұрын
Create proper bike lanes = less cyclists feeling the need to ride on the sidewalk
@patriot9487
@patriot9487 Жыл бұрын
Low IQ comment
@georgeemil3618
@georgeemil3618 2 жыл бұрын
Drivers need to be reminded of this everytime they renew their licence plates, drivers licence or auto insurance.
@georgeemil3618
@georgeemil3618 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen some of these bike lanes in my own city (Toronto) including the bad driver examples. Yes, I've seen drivers performing right-hooks even though they know there is a bike lane with cyclists riding through. I've also seen planters and flexible bollards knocked over. I'm think the only safe sure-fire way to separate cars from bike lanes are jersey barriers or solid concrete bollards.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
Right turns on red must go, and intersections need proper setbacks and tight corners - not the 60 degree behemoths literally designed to allow tractor trailers into city centers.
@Victor-tl4dk
@Victor-tl4dk 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the United States needs to see this video! Good work! Protected bike lanes are the only way to go.
@hendman4083
@hendman4083 2 жыл бұрын
There no advisory on street cycle lanes in The Netherlands. This video explains what types we do have: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bl7LaIKaoducgdE
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
Practically speaking, the dashed, on-street bicycle lanes in The Netherlands and the US advisory lanes function in the same exact manner, even though the painted versions may not be specifically referred to as an "advisory lane" in the NL. However, in that video, Mark does point out (at 2:25) that an unmarked dashed lane, or "suggestion lane," may be translated as "advisory lane" - even though they technically are traffic calming devices and not actual bicycle lanes. So, in a matter of speaking, there _are_ Dutch on-street advisory "lanes," but they're considered traffic calming devices rather than bicycle facilities. We'll keep in mind that the painted version should not be referred to as an advisory lane as they are here in the US for all future communications.
@pindermf
@pindermf 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to let you know this video has been seen by 500+ street design professionals in Ontario, Canada. We play it as part of a cycling infrastructure design training course. It's been well received!
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
That's wonderful news! Can we mention this in an upcoming article? We've heard Washington State DOT uses it as well, and would like to share this in that article.
@hendman4083
@hendman4083 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god, you are actually promoting those turn boxes? What a horrible design that is.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
@@hendman4083 We're not promoting them, but we're acknowledging their existence (the feeling is mutual though). Note that the video lists all the potential conflicts of the turn box designs, and makes it clear that the protected intersection is a far simpler and safer design - and is still eclipsed by the superb Dutch protected intersection.
@SIDERER
@SIDERER 2 жыл бұрын
🙂
@jenniechamberlain6398
@jenniechamberlain6398 2 жыл бұрын
there is plenty of research now that suggests riding at least an arms distance from the curb or right line is much safer than shoulder riding. this should be made more clear. it's nice the way the hazards of shoulder riding are called out, but they could be stressed more... shoulders tend to periodically disappear, and they tend to not be maintained.
@TheMarkvanes
@TheMarkvanes 2 жыл бұрын
"new"
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
So very true. The US has had 30+ years to implement this. The "new" is all relative!
@scully0105
@scully0105 2 жыл бұрын
it is too bad you measure the buffers in inches and not in cm. Otherwise I like the video, it is very informative!
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
The metric conversion is now present in the closed captioning. Thank you so much for the recommendation!
@fedordegroot2599
@fedordegroot2599 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video about how we get our bicycle lanes in The Netherlands: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYqrq2xpfb19fLM There is hope for the US. But it will take time.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone can learn from Mark Wagenbuur's fantastic videos. Historical, current, future - it's all there. We also love @NotJustBikes, who helps break down the cultural divide that has been preventing this infrastructure in North American engineering and planning.
@peter1062
@peter1062 2 жыл бұрын
From the same channel (bicycledutch) 11 years ago on how protected intersections work: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ2koZWugd9ppqM
@PTR2409
@PTR2409 2 жыл бұрын
U should ride an Omafiets, and throw the helmet away.
@annekekramer3835
@annekekramer3835 2 жыл бұрын
How about using a separate traffic light for bicycles for those INSANE intersections that the USA has? You give some many HORRIBLE options for intersections and none are safe. All four sides green for all bicycles while all cars are stopped. Problems solved.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed; the FHWA needs to codify proper signaling for micromobility and ensure this also benefits pedestrians as well. Unfortunately, the US does a pretty poor job of traffic timing in the first place for everyone - drivers included - even with sensors. Not Just Bikes' video about the fantastic Dutch sensor system is a perfect example of what we're missing out on: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ_Fh4qOr7FnY5Y. All things considered though, the US can make VERY quick improvements from a safety standpoint - for both bicycle riders and pedestrians - by eradicating right turns on red, and timing parallel traffic with each other at all times - auto/bike/ped. It doesn't solve the convenience issues of such designs, but for that, we need Dutch-style roundabouts (preferably minus the multi-lane monsters too). While protected intersections are our pick of the lot as far as _current_ US implementations go (preferences may differ depending on the evolution of US design in 20 years time), we agree that none of the North American models have quite nailed the perfection of the Dutch Roundabout, nor the width necessary to ensure comfortable navigation, especially with cargo bikes. -KK
@bertkassing8541
@bertkassing8541 2 жыл бұрын
You have studied the Dutch infrastructure well :-)
@alfredogarbanzo2276
@alfredogarbanzo2276 2 жыл бұрын
We need safer pedestrian infrastructure in the us
@safetdudic
@safetdudic 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo 👏
@daverobertson4561
@daverobertson4561 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully produced video covering so many different designs! One aspect of protected bike lane design that was only mentioned quickly in this video I think would be very important to discuss in the future - bike lane width. If we ever want to build modal share in our cities, WIDE comfortable bike lanes so cargo bikes, friends and family can ride side-by-side is going to be critical.
@Kidzneurosciencecenter
@Kidzneurosciencecenter 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Wider protected bike lanes and smooth approaches for protected intersections are absolutely necessary (and potential topics for a sequel to this video).
@knosis
@knosis 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! We need a minimum width in cities. Some of those bike lanes are so thin that it doesn't make much sense to use them