The rope slips 1.5m because the rope is thinner.This device is great because you can "adjust" the slippage according to the rope used.If you are close to the ground you can use 11mm rope to have minimum slippage.But if you are hanging like 10 meters from the ground then the 10mm is a good choice because of the lower shock experienced by your body (anchors etc.) (less is better of course) in case of a fall.Be aware that this device works excellent with oval carabiners.D shaped carabiners are not recommended because they can easily jammed inside the hole of the camp thus more prone to be cross loaded.Took me almost a day to select the proper carabiner for this device.

@@tubosolinas Thank you for your insight. That is a good point. I like your machining videos :)

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Brian warshow ehhh not all PETZL equipment is bad. As an instructor it is easier to teach new level 1s with the newer PETZL designs of descenders for the simple reason of not having to remove the device off a harness to put the rope in properly. This is a good positioning device for aid climbing applications. I love CAMP devices as an experienced climber but not for a novice. Just my opinion not pooping on CAMP at all I love their harnesses instead of the new PETZL Astro 🤢🤮

@@Jay_gonzalez which Petzl device do you like for beginners? The Gri Gri plus?

@@vladimirlopez7840 The GriGri is no descender although Petzl says it could be used to descend when using a prusik-knot as a break. It's a really decent safety tool for Rock Climbing but nothing more. Using it as a descender is not recommended for untrained people. If you're starting i would get a Petzl ID with Panic safety. Trust me, when i started i often pulled the lever back and i was happy that i got the panic safety. I would never trust a GriGri fully without a second safety break and thats not what i want from a descender.

Hey Brian, are you still satisfied with your Druid? I need a new descender and i'm not sure if i should take the well known rig or the Druid. The Druid seems to be smaller and lighter while the rig has a "working" position which brakes it and you dont have to tie it off like the druid when staying in a working position. I'm no professional user but a geocacher and climber with the need for a light but safe descender which can climb in combination with an ascender. I use 11mm ropes and i don't wan't to activate the panic brake everytime while descending. I'm still mit sure if i should try the Druid, but also wondering if i just tend to use petzl since it's industry standart and also wondering if i need the "Stop"-Position at all while not staying in one position for hours. But i tend to build in my Rope protectors while Standing at the Edge, using both hands and therefore not using my right hand for braking. I also wonder if the lever ist too small, but i only use two fingers on the Petzl's levers.

@@SGWChaosteam Hello Seb. In answer to your question, there are two models of the Druid. The "Pro" version does not have a "panic" feature on the handle and does not require tying off the control rope for work positioning. It does take a moment to change the muscle memory loading the rope as it is different from the open face design of the ID or RIG. As for limited ascending with a handle ascender it does have more friction than the rig and can be a bit fussier at first. In terms of the handle activation is concerned the handle is a bit shorter and requires a tad bit more pull to open the cam. I normally use my palm (face down) to pressure the handle. It seems to work nicely, and never panics out repeatedly. The Druid has not shown any wear after many long descents as opposed to the fast wearing and expensive to replace Petzl offerings. It will outlast several ID's or RIgs. As a climber you may like the compact design and I can say that CAMP is a fantastic company to deal with should you need, with Peztl not so much. By the way, the only people who consider Petzl the "industry standard" is the Petzl marketing department. MacDonald's is surely the industry standard for hamburgers but they are still shit. Good luck hunting for your preferred descender. ISC offers up a good descender (D4) as well but I find it very heavy and a bit "panicky", some really like the Sparrow as well. Good stuff out there, but so far the Druid has treated me well. Cheers!

After a few change overs it becomes quite easy, just a new muscle memory to learn from the Preztl way is all. It's easy and fine.

@@StaggerLee68 yes i agree as we have been doing it for years but its an exciting change using the akimbo in twin rope it totally takes the chest ascender out of the equation, it doesn't mean you cant keep it on your harness as an extra

@@claudeanthony468 Rock makes beautiful stuff. I wonder how it would be for longer descents though. As well, I prefer working in ascent and a changeover takes only a few seconds. Nice piece of gear for only $350 though, haha.

Better descender than any Petzl offering. As a descender or "grillion replacement. Actually The Beal Birdy is smaller and even better as a replacement grillion. Good stuff out there, Petzl's days are over.

Welcome to 1990 & the Petzl stop

I was thinking it might be a little awkward but got one anyway to see. No worries, it's the best descender I've used and am super happy with it. The keeper chord I thought was kinda goofy too but If you get the right system and placement dialed... easy peasy. It'd kind of nice to get a device free and away from your central D as well, particularly with a Tyvek suit, a respirator and goggles on. Works just fine, smooth operation. It's badass and i dig it. You never know till you try. And no crossloanding if you do your changeovers correctly and watch it get weighted. During a change over one hand is free and you can just put your thumb on the line for a little tension to straighten it out as you sit into the device, but I haven't had to. All descenders can cross load in a changeover, it's no different and I actually find it crossloads a lot less. weird. Excellent piece of kit.

@@gregm5694 This is not Petzl crap. ha ha. worked on a stop for many years and never had an issue but this is WAY better. I'm happily surprised how much I like it. Nuke proof and feels good.

Karya emergency situations can be done without back up line.

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