Right now, I believe the order of graves in HW2. Afterall, Susie did say she was the first. As for motivation, it’s possible William was aiming to frame Henry, though I fully admit how much of a stretch that is. I personally think we’ll get our answer from Secret of the Mimic. That or a Fall Fest game. Fall Fest pre dates it all. What better place for William to find his drive then the very beginning. Also, if literally SIX KIDS have died or gone missing at the restaurant chain, I think it makes sense there would be an upgrade in security. ALSO. I think the MCI happening first makes sense for more reasons, I will happily elaborate if asked(pls ask I want to rant👉👈)
@Ms_Pinball3 күн бұрын
I want you to think about this "This was a wound first inflicted on me, and one that I let bleed out to start all of this." - Henry Emily (FFPS) in reference to William's actions. William killed henry's daughter. how can give gifts, give life happen if charlie hasn't died yet? also if you're looking for motives read the trilogy lol
@amethystxd32942 күн бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball I take the trilogy with minor grains of salt. And who's to say for certain he'd referring to Charlie. Again bringing up Fallfest, it's been more than subtly hinted that it burned down. I think that that first wound, was from fallfest. Also, we don't know when the animatronics got possessed. The MC's corpses could have been hidden in the suits prior to Charlie's death. Then, when she did possess the puppet, she could have gave them life afterwards. And if Henry's line is fact, than so is Susie's, "I WAS THE FIRST". My girl literally has been saying it ever since she could speak😭. So if Charlie was the first killed, that would imply the order of deaths to be opposite from the grave order in HW2. Which would then contradict Susie's statement of being the first, as even if she was referring ONLY to the MCI, if the grave order was backwards, that would make her the last victim.
@Ms_Pinball2 күн бұрын
@@amethystxd3294 who is henry referring to? What was a wound first inflicted on him, and one that he let bleed out to start everything?
@amethystxd32942 күн бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball I guess we just wait for a Fallfest game to find out.
@Ms_Pinball2 күн бұрын
@@amethystxd3294 we did store.steampowered.com/app/1126200/Five_Nights_at_Freddys_Help_Wanted__Curse_of_Dreadbear/
@helpy.mp6Ай бұрын
SO THE LOST VIDEO WAS FNAF 1 TRAILER ON BETTER QUALITY???'''???'''''?
@calinmik4292 ай бұрын
Tales is literally confirmed to be canon and even the games continuity via Scholastic's description
@Ms_Pinball2 ай бұрын
@@calinmik429 that’s what I’m saying!!! (Should be stated I made this video before ruin lol)
@Baconguyidk2 ай бұрын
Hi
@KuzeKere2 ай бұрын
Even the TV show in Sister Location points to the fact that William hates his children or children in general. He is simply a selfish psychopath. And I think Midnight Motorist clearly shows us that the Bite Victim was still alive after Charlie's murder. Sure, there's different interpretations, but this makes most sense to me.
@UnKiKuma2 ай бұрын
So. If we go on the pieces putting back together. It's not his body. It's his brain. Cause Fnaf World map Is the crying child's brain.
@FJNBKPMMPS3 ай бұрын
I think Libra presents some certainly valid evidence for MCI83, but the one piece that I feel needs to be answered is, "William's motivation tho?"
@Ms_Pinball3 ай бұрын
he was just on a streak yk?
@haidynsworld38203 ай бұрын
I have a theory that Charlie's death took place at the original fredbear's Family Diner shortly after Elizabeth's death at Circus baby's Pizza world it's possible that after Elizabeth's death William Afton became mad and he decided to kill Charlie out of either Rage or jealousy because Henry still had a daughter and William had lost his granted it was primarily Elizabeth's fault for getting near circus baby in the first place but William should have been keeping a closer eye on her but because he wasn't watching her this allowed Elizabeth to sneak off and get close to Circus baby which ultimately led to her death because of this William blamed himself for the incident and had to close circus baby's Pizza World under pretense that there was a gas leak happening and while he was driving home he noticed Charlie standing outside of the restaurant in the rain he then pulled up in front of Charlie install the approached her he killed her by violently strangling her to death and leaving her body behind the diner and the mini game in FNAF 6 shows this murderer happen in full although it does not show how William killed Charlie specifically it's heavily implied that he either strangle her to death or stabbed her with a knife but I think it's likely that he strangled her so if you think about it Charlie was technically William's first victim before the five missing children but the order of the first death was Elizabeth at Circus baby's Pizza world and Charlie and the crying child at fredbears Family Diner
@Ms_Pinball3 ай бұрын
1) theories have evidence. you provided no evidence. that’s a headcannon at best. 2) William doesn’t open circus baby’s till after Fredbears 3) it’s been well proven that William does not care about his children. He literally beat Elizabeth in the novels.
@haidynsworld38203 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball but I watched a William afton's Memoir video and in that video it explains that Elizabeth was the first of the Afton children to die and then Evan died shortly after but then again the lore of these games is extremely complicated so anyone can make up their own story we don't really know when circus baby's Pizza World open it was never established in the games some people say it opened in 1982 and that's why Elizabeth's death took place before Evans because Evan's death took place in 1983 but I also like to thank Charlie and Evan both died at fredbear's Family Diner Charlie being locked outside of the building and strangled to death by William and Evan being killed by fredbear's Jaws clamping down on his head and personally I do believe that Charlie was William's first victim before he killed the five children at the original Freddy Fazbear's Pizza with the unwithered animatronics back in 1985 but since the lore of these games is extremely convoluted weekend basically come up with whatever story we want and I decided to go with the story that I heard in the Memoir video if you check out that video you'll understand a little more but I personally like to believe that Elizabeth's death came first then Charlie was killed and the finally Evan's death came afterwards
@Ms_Pinball3 ай бұрын
@@haidynsworld3820don’t call it a theory if there’s no evidence. Why would William open circus baby’s before anyone in the series died.. and before he learned about possession and remnant and all that? Also his name isn’t Evan that solution sucks ass
@TrippyGOAT33 ай бұрын
yeah 85 but its so unrealistic and weird how there are reports talking about it in the fnaf 1 location on those papers even though the incident happened literally 8 years prior..
@Ms_Pinball3 ай бұрын
@@TrippyGOAT3 those newspapers aren’t actually there. They’re hallucinations of newspapers from years ago.
@Ms_Pinball3 ай бұрын
This got on Dawko’s podcast :3 (kzbin.infoUgkxlymU8cngGTaz71X1WoAn4FkcxSMt6JQ0?si=8Qtbu46nw3EhHGXf)
@chopstick35553 ай бұрын
Cool!
@tehcooler3 ай бұрын
Where was this trailer even found?
@Ms_Pinball3 ай бұрын
Desura
@creativekplus4 ай бұрын
Susie. She claims to be the first in literally the next game after Henry said that. There's also the PQ4 gravestone order. All more recent compared to Henry's line, that is conveniently non-specific enough where you could say.... assign it to him being framed for the MCI, thus causing his daughter to be alone on that night, who would subsequently give animatronics life. A far cleaner cause-effect for a "wound growing" than simply "one kill and then another unrelated kill".
@rbmn425trainzandroid.34 ай бұрын
This not is the fnaf trailer Lost media. This is the original trailer
@Ms_Pinball4 ай бұрын
This is the 720p version of the trailer. The one Scott uploaded is 480p.
@Neptune5111Animate4 ай бұрын
I think 1984 after Elizabeth and Evan's death which i think was in August and October 1983.
@Neptune5111Animate4 ай бұрын
i actually have exact dates for Elizabeth and Evan's death August 24th, 1983 and October 19th, 1983 (it's based on major hurricane landfalls which might link to Hurricane Utah)
@Ms_Pinball4 ай бұрын
what but 1984 has never been mentioned anywhere are you gonna back this up with a source???
@Neptune5111Animate4 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball it would probably be 1985 if only one of this children was dead
@Neptune5111Animate4 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball how would he keep his sanity for 2 god damn years after the loss of 2 out 3 of his children
@Ms_Pinball4 ай бұрын
@@Neptune5111Animate 1985 was mentioned as the mci year multiple times in different continuities, as well as the same continuity (via into the pit game) William Afton didn't care about his children. He didn't kill out of grief. He killed out of a specific motive.
@kalebkite30044 ай бұрын
I think the fights universe from the games is truly canon
@flamegamer34054 ай бұрын
I disagree with your theory Nightmare, Freddy literally just said I was remade, but not, bay you I was remade by the one that you should not have killed in I believe that to be the victim
@zeldristhecactus13045 ай бұрын
So, you say that Andrew is the one inside Golden Freddy?
@Ms_Pinball5 ай бұрын
This video of mine suggests that Cassidy and Andrew possess golden freddy. I don’t think that still holds up. I believe they’re both involved in ucn though. Cassidy possesses GF, Andrew is the one William shouldn’t have killed. Cassidy is a girl, the spirit is male.
@Shadowmouse127719 күн бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball Andrew is not in golden freddy
@Ms_Pinball18 күн бұрын
@@Shadowmouse1277 brother READ my comment, I said he isn't
@The_T-Boy15_shorts5 ай бұрын
Foxy.exe remind me of Sonic.EXE because they're both fast animals
@Shadowmouse12775 ай бұрын
The foxy arm in the bag could represent someone william hasn't murdered but is related to aka BV, which also solves the 6th victim it is charlie. And now it makes even more sense to theorize that Cassidy is toysnhk because of the number of graves in princess quest 4.
@Ms_Pinball5 ай бұрын
the entire mystery is about the fact that there are SEVEN VICTIMS in those cutscenes
@Shadowmouse12775 ай бұрын
There are three spirits in golden freddy i refuse to let BV die on this god awful hill
@Ms_Pinball5 ай бұрын
play the beginning of fnaf world
@Shadowmouse127719 күн бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball he is in golden freddy
@Ms_Pinball18 күн бұрын
@@Shadowmouse1277 look up shattervictim
@daycircle83395 ай бұрын
So this is a sign that bb is secretly the most important character
@Raviolling5 ай бұрын
Dude I swear I saw foxy pop his head out in pirate's cove
@Ms_Pinball5 ай бұрын
Foxy isn’t in the trailer
@Raviolling5 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball then where did the render for him in custom night come from?? I swear I remember seeing somewhere him doing his jumps are pose and his eye patch flipping up, and pirate cove's curtains opening up! I saw it! I did!! I really did!
@Ms_Pinball5 ай бұрын
@@RaviollingFoxy can open his curtain in the game. There’s just no animation of him doing it in the game/trailer.
@Raviolling5 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball It's probably just a Mandela effect
@Ghrrx3 ай бұрын
You probably mean the clip at 0:04 in this vid : kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2rQmaWkg8h5f68si=LEBSJN_tbVuSCbFl It says where the foxy clip is from in the comments
@Fredboyos5 ай бұрын
Glad that I'm not the only one to call out the BB World Adventure minigame inside of the trailer
@nahsaimondude5 ай бұрын
This is fake
@Ms_Pinball5 ай бұрын
Nope! Look at the attached video!
@alphawolf85035 ай бұрын
To those who believe Mci takes place in 1983, explain this to me 1. Why is it that in the fnaf 3 tapes state "that the springbonnie animatronic has been noticeable moved" after the bite of 83 2. Why does phone guy say fredbears family dinner like its an alien concept to him there is no way that the concept of fredbears family dinner would be erased from the minds of even the upper management this early after fredbears shut down MCI takes place in 1985 fight me on it
@TrippyGOAT33 ай бұрын
i dont think anybody believes that. That's so much of a stretch especially since there are missing reports in the fnaf 1 location, creating a wide year gap
@chilliplayz13065 ай бұрын
You just screen recorded it and uploaded it for views it’s still in 480p
@Ms_Pinball5 ай бұрын
That is not true. This is a much higher quality version than the one on Scott’s channel.
@chilliplayz13065 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball they’re both in 480p, you’re literally lying
@chilliplayz13065 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball you claimed it was 720p
@Ms_Pinball5 ай бұрын
@@chilliplayz1306 it’s some KZbin issue. Watch them both side by side.
@chilliplayz13065 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball I took screenshots of both, they’re the exact same
@roxentrail53885 ай бұрын
"The shadow fears me" - Am I joke to you? (Just kidding, lol)
@oguzok87786 ай бұрын
По-моему Кэссиди больше подходит на роль плюшфредбира
@Ms_Pinball6 ай бұрын
Maybe, but it’s extremely likely that she just wasn’t dead until 1985
@oguzok87786 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball Просто... телепортация, сама игрушка больше похожая на Золотого Фредди, а так же то что Кессиди также является одним из убитых детей в 83, а значит является другом плачущего мальчика заставляет меня думать что это она находится в плюшфредбире... По крайней мере телепортация больше напоминает фишку Золотого Фредди чем марионетки. Да и отделение головы от тела тоже фишка Золотого, стоит только вспомнить голову плюшфредбера на цветке
@oguzok87786 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball А так же логбук, именно Кессиди ведёт с нами диалог, думаю ты сам помнишь
@Ms_Pinball6 ай бұрын
@@oguzok8778 Cassidy died in 1985. That doesn’t mean she didn’t know the bite victim before 1983 though.
@oguzok87786 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball Маловероятно.... Скотт говорил что романы нельзя использовать для решения истории, а в Ужасах Фазбера: into the pit инцидент происходит в другое время года, не с пятью, а с шестью детьми... Так что могу предположить что инцидент сильно отличается. А вот насчёт MCI83... Плюшфредбир, когда в мини-игре встречаем человека в костюме Фредбира говорит: НЕТ! Разве ты не помнишь, что видел? Выход в другой стороне! Поторопись и уходи. Это определённо даёт понять что плачущий мальчик что-то видел, а учитывая что в этой же мини-игре рыжая девочка с зелёными глазами говорит про одержимость аниматроников и исчезновение ночных охранников то MCI на момент fnaf 4 уже произошёл, а сам плачущий мальчик был свидетелем, поэтому он так боится Фредбира...
@ariellasandberg20016 ай бұрын
Withered Foxy's voice is really cool! I think Mark did an awesome job! 🦊
@SOULular6 ай бұрын
I got recommended this a year later xD
@jayechen15626 ай бұрын
He is so amazing guy and I love alligator and they are so cool and perfect together woke on the game 😊😮
@foxybro79976 ай бұрын
What's in the box is bv memories and the Happiest day is self
@AllForKnight6 ай бұрын
Glad to see people are finally realizing Nightmare and Shadow Freddy are the same being. The illusion disc theory makes 0 sense with Nightmares assertions and nature especially in UCN and being tied with Shadow Freddy
@LexMaxonJonesShortFilms6 ай бұрын
“I’m here to claim, what’s left of you”.
@Ms_Pinball6 ай бұрын
so true
@AllForKnight6 ай бұрын
Likely in reference to claiming the last of Williams Remnant and Agony
@LexMaxonJonesShortFilms6 ай бұрын
You are the only himothy
@LucasTF6 ай бұрын
I disagree. Also, WIlliam wants to put Bite Victim back together, so he seemingly cared about his death. Also x2, in different continuities William can have different turning points, game William lives in different home lives than Movie and Books WIlliam. Also x3, the Puppet is never associated with Fredbear. I don't feel like arguing much, so I made this short.
@martell54376 ай бұрын
its crazy remembering that his last name is my first
@JWProductions20237 ай бұрын
No Funaff made the timeline make more sense
@Ms_Pinball7 ай бұрын
No he didn’t lol. He makes controversial (and shitty) theories for the sake of getting people to talk about him.
@JWProductions20237 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball really his security breach theories really make sense with the evidence he provided and also he in my opinion has had theories as good as MatPat
@Ms_Pinball6 ай бұрын
@@JWProductions2023 that's not a high bar to meet lol
@JWProductions20236 ай бұрын
@@Ms_Pinball idk MatPat agreed with a bunch of his theories other wise answer me this, if he didn't approve of it why have him featured on his channel. And also there are thousands of others who have theories that are like funaffs theories, but MatPat recognized funaffs over others that a clear sign
@Ms_Pinball6 ай бұрын
@@JWProductions2023because John is popular. Matpats theories are bad too.
@Nandor_Editz877 ай бұрын
Wow,I didn't know this,thank you!❤
@ghrayebhedi66207 ай бұрын
Do you know why the screen is black in a game?
@Ms_Pinball7 ай бұрын
You gotta be more specific
@Bisctard6 ай бұрын
Sorry, but if your screen is black your phone doesn't have AR compatibility and can't play FNaF AR/Forsaken AR
@carmenlynn54417 ай бұрын
I think cassidy was killed by william with fredbear, removed and buried, and the agony of his death made him a spirit who was also the fredbear plushie in 4, so after CCs bite he was put back together as golden freddy. I also think the retcon between 4 and SL scott mentioned was the fredbear plush being made real and it being afton all along
@darktrapv.13847 ай бұрын
Fazbear frights canon Cassidy she never toysnhk/vengeful spirit/one you shouldn't have killed
@carmenlynn54417 ай бұрын
@@darktrapv.1384 wat
@Shadowmouse12774 ай бұрын
@@darktrapv.1384 it is not cannon
@darktrapv.13844 ай бұрын
@Shadowmouse1234 if not canon then why there fetch Easter eggs in fnaf security breach and into the pit get game and new book?
@Shadowmouse12774 ай бұрын
@@darktrapv.1384 to reference it not to say it was cannon
@aidanscouter70698 ай бұрын
I think fnaf 1-5 is canon
@Ms_Pinball8 ай бұрын
they're all canon lol
@Cassiepult8 ай бұрын
foreskin ar
@The-one-and-only-moai8 ай бұрын
Does the game has a virus?
@Ms_Pinball8 ай бұрын
No.
@alexq.55279 ай бұрын
The DCA pretty much contradicts the entirety of at least one book being canon, if not more, but they certainly could be a separate universe with certain parallels.
@Ms_Pinball9 ай бұрын
no one calls the daycare attendant the DCA, please do not shorten him to that for other people's sake how does the daycare attendant contradict things?
@Jackass569 ай бұрын
Thanks bro the thought of phone dude from fnaf 3 not being cannon genuinely scared me
@aftoncultistandsimp9 ай бұрын
BV is Golden Freddy I have my evidence.
@Ms_Pinball9 ай бұрын
Go on
@Shadowmouse127719 күн бұрын
Yes
@delapazmata33129 ай бұрын
Facts inside on the FNAF 4 box that is a dead boddy of Evan curps
@Ms_Pinball9 ай бұрын
1) his name literally isn’t Evan, it’s as likely as Chris or Norman or whatever lol 2) the box cannot contain the bite victims body. It just can’t. What it is said to contain is “the pieces put together.” The bite victims entire body is intact when he dies. It was never broken into multiple pieces. It’s clearly something much more.
@historyhub53899 ай бұрын
What if the 1985 date given in the books was actually supposed to give us the dates for BOTH the MCI and DCI? 85 is exactly between 83 and 87 and we know that the DCI takes place during FNAF2, in 1987.