Thank you so much, I dig your recent video on FM vs PM also, although it makes me wish I had taken my maths further than I did so I could underestand a bit more of it!

@@jbowmanmusic I feel the same way about having taken math more seriously, I feel like i'm just now catching up to it because I find it interesting, but couldn't be bothered while in school lol.

@@cooksoni.a Any resources which have been useful for you in catching up? I wouldn't even know where to start, even much of the terminology and basic concepts which I learnt in school have eroded away over the years...

@@jbowmanmusic you probably didnt get my reply, did you lol? youtube is so fucking annoying about comments with links

@cooksoni.a no I didn't, and yes it is... 🤨

@thesnipecatcher116 Thanks! hopefully there's something useful in there.

Thanks for the kind words. In truth, I came up with these patches and this video just to answer a question on Gearspace about how the user oscillator sounded. I enjoyed putting the patches together though, so I'll see what else I can come up with...

Thanks for listening and for the encouraging words!

Thank you so much!

Since you ask so nicely, I will see what I can do...!

Thank you so much for listening!

@@Bostich247 Thanks for listening!

@@thesnipecatcher116 Thank you so much!

Thanks for listening!

@@sK3LeTvM1 What do you think about the envelopes re-triggering on the Kyra? De degustibus non est disputandum.

@@jbowmanmusic Taste is not the matter here. It never is when it comes to synths. Listen, judge, check the specs...here we go: The Kyra is a full DAC, 2xIN 8xOUT Stereo over USB soundcard, a synths with128 true(!) voices ( so no voice stealing) 4096 Waveforms..., 10(!!!) Oscillators per patch. 18 slot Matrix. And much much more to name. I think you should not compare these 2 synths... It's like comparing a Ferrari with a BMW

@sK3LeTvM1 Yes the Kyra's specs are certainly impressive! What do you think about the envelopes re-triggering on the Kyra? Some would call that voice stealing.

Thanks, it's been fun to put these together!

Thanks for listening. I liked the way OPS7 sounded on the sweep, I think all the Plogue synths sound great. I bought the PortaFM and ChipsynthMD but haven't delved to deeply into them yet. I figure I have 6-op covered with the EssenceFM, although I appreciate it's a different kettle of fish from a DX7. Maybe I'll get my hands on some of those old Yamahas someday and I can cover them also.

Thanks so much for the support!

@@jbowmanmusic Pleasure!!!

@@marcus268 Two operators have feedback per voice

Thank you so much.

Thanks for listening!

@@Handheldsounds Thanks!

Thanks - so I hear. Another curious design decision with this synth...

No way it's you! I loved your video on 2 op synthesis btw, watched it a load of times!

@ haha thanks dude, thats super cool!

Thanks a lot!

Thanks a lot!

Thank you!

Thanks - these sounds are all pitched down three octaves in my MPC

Thanks, I would be interested to learn if the R3 sounds anything like the Prologue. The manual for the Prologue says the VPM engine was newly developed for the Prologue, so I would be surprised if there is anything quite like it in their prior synths. The Kronos has a VPM engine, for example, and from the demos I have listened to it sounds nothing like the Prologue. I know what you mean about the beating, but haven't actually thought of using that musically - that's a great idea. Yeah the 4- and 6-op synths can add extra operators to the stack to increase the modulation. In my experience feedback doesn't quite get the same effect as high modulation in a 2-op set-up. Incidentally feedback on the Prologue is interesting, because it does not turn into noise at high settings. The VPM engine has a separate noise parameter, presumably for that reason. I have never quite got to grips with setting up complex use algorithms on the EssenceFM - simple linear stacks are easy to achieve with the touchscreen (e.g. operator 3 into operator 2 into operator 1) and 90% of the time that is enough for me. When trying to feed two modulators into a single carrier (e.g. operator 3 and operator 2 into operator 1) I find that a bit more fiddly to set up, and it takes a few goes to achieve, although it's not a big problem.

you have to buy both?. Which one do you prefer?

@pedrogomis hi, I had started to prepare a detailed comparison between them when I ran into a significant issue with the envelopes in one of them, which is shown in this patch. I wonder if it is obvious, or whether it is not something a listener can detect - please let me know if you can hear what the issue is.

@@jbowmanmusic kyra not so smooth, i listen a little jump in the sound in second 40 and 55

Yes you got it. The problem is that if the release portion of a note is still ringing out, and you repeat the note, rather than starting from 0, the attack portion of the envelope of the repeated note restarts at the level of the previous note. This makes it difficult to use for pads as you can hear at second 40 and 55. I also agree with you that the Mask1 resonant filter sounds nicer. The Kyra has some plus points, and a lot of potential in theory, but overall I keep running into problems with it that make me prefer the Mask1.

@jbowmanmusic ​@jbowmanmusic we all know Kyra is an unfinished product without support. I don't care. You would be surprised synths tested by recognized youtubers and has errors in the design nobody noticed them ;)

My pleasure! Was it what you were expecting?

@@jbowmanmusic Well, I learned that Kodamo delivers richer spectrum than DX7. Good for Kodamo! Can your analyser be used to show harmonic pairs represented in Kodamo sweep? Like the analyzer from the link I sent you yesterday? Thank you for your time.

@markom1976 Not sure it can - it's the little Korg nts2 so the little FFT in the video is about as much information as you'll get from it

@@IntraMoeniaArt Thanks for watching!

Thank you for the link - that's interesting, and impressive that they wrote their own FFT software.

@@jbowmanmusic Could you demonstrate a 2-op FM sweep of Dexed?

Yes, stay tuned

Thanks!

Thanks, would love to try some older Yamaha hardware! I fear the EssenceFM UI has spoiled me somewhat. Good point on the disparity between C and M frequencies, maybe I will do a part 2 (although doing the test and editing for this one was slightly overwhelming). I looked but couldn't see the YT series you mentioned on your page?

@@jbowmanmusic kzbin.info/www/bejne/lamvZKSoYp5gkKc

@indiemoon thanks for the link - wow, fascinating stuff, FM synthesis really is a bottomless well. I will try some of these sounds on my EFM.

@@onosendai4056 Thanks, and yes!

Thanks!

@frankjuno8808 cheers, enjoy - it's one of the best user oscillators IMO not only because of the sound but also the simplicity of use - you don't need a cheatsheet to understand the parameters and can get a lot out of just using the LFO and filter EG.

Cheers for the info - good point about the expression pedal input. I actually used a pedal for the last sound here, to control cutoff level.

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They're both being sequenced by the MPC, a single low c. The Argon8's (limited) FM engine is one of the few I've found that can come close to the EFM for bite.

Digging into the FM on the Kyra for the first time here. It's a little less intuitive and powerful than the essencefm, but there is some good stuff in there for sure. I made a long post on GS 😅

Glad you liked it!

Thanks a lot!

@cvio_ cheers! I love FM, would like to try the opsix and digitone sometime. It's hard to beat the multitimbral power of the EssenceFM though!

I have the three of them plus the king of fm yamaha montage m8x

@pedrogomis sounds like you think the montage is the best then?

@@jbowmanmusic 8 operators m8x, 6 operators kodamo, 5 operators opsix